John Dolva Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Can a backtrack from "B.S." to Sorrels be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Yes. It appeared to be shot from a very similar position to that seen in the Zapruder film. I tend to believe that it was NOT the "unaltered" Zapruder film because of certain differences. However, that possibility has not been ruled out. The very high quality of the film is also less than consistent with what we see in the extant Zapruder film, among other things. Can you provide the details of when you saw this mysterious other film? Still waiting for an answer Greg You can wait until hell freezes over...and them some more. I am not required to answer your pathetic, ill advised, distracting, no-count, out of context, ruminating, blovatious (ask Tink what that one means), meandering, mindless inquiry...or I'd have to "make a report" to YOUR superiors--and then you'd be sorry! I've been in Hawaii with my bride for our anniversary for the past 10 days and will be here for several more. When I get back...perhaps hell will have frozen over. If not? Go piss up a rope. My, my Greg, why so much hostility over a simple relevant question? And just how prey tell is asking the circumstances in which you saw the “other film” on a thread about the film in response to a post in which you claim to have seen it “ill advised, distracting, no-count, out of context, ruminating, blovatious (ask Tink what that one means), meandering [and] mindless? IF you have nothing to hide why must you be so evasive? This reminds me of when you refused to be upfront about your obvious error regarding Zapruder. PS – “ruminating” and “blovatious” made no sense in context in which you used them, before using ‘big words’ you should verify what they mean. Sill waiting for a straight answer Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 ... Sill waiting for a straight answer Greg. only Dr. Thompson can use blovating in the proper context eh, Len? Where is Miller when I need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 ... Sill waiting for a straight answer Greg. only Dr. Thompson can use blovating in the proper context eh, Len? Where is Miller when I need him? David, Since you obviously don't know what the word means look it up, then get back and tell us if you think Greg used it correctly. http://www.onelook.com/?w=bloviate&ls=b&sourceid=Mozilla-search Gerg, Still waiting for an answer. IF you really saw the film why not tell us about the circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 ... Sill waiting for a straight answer Greg. only Dr. Thompson can use blovating in the proper context eh, Len? Where is Miller when I need him? David, Since you obviously don't know what the word means look it up, then get back and tell us if you think Greg used it correctly. http://www.onelook.com/?w=bloviate&ls=b&sourceid=Mozilla-search Gerg, Still waiting for an answer. IF you really saw the film why not tell us about the circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Still waitin' Greg. IF you really saw it why not tell us the circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Still waitin' Greg. IF you really saw it why not tell us the circumstances? Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it. An 8 mm film of the assassination, according to the document cited surfaced circa August 1971 as described below. Perhaps someone with a premium subscription [downloading privileges with same] can download the actual document. ADMIN FOLDER-O6: HSCA ADMINISTRATIVE FOLDER, ASSASSINATION MATTERS VOLUME II Found in: FBI - HSCA Administrative Folders (Date 5/10/71) 8/4/71 AIRTEL TO: DIRECTOR, FBI (62-109060) FROM: SAC, HOUSTON, (62-2115) (RUC) SUBJECT: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY Enclosed for the Bureau is one 8mm movie color movie film reflecting captioned assassination. HO-1677-PCI made available enclosed film on evening of 7/30/71. Film viewed at Houston on 8/2/71 for verifi- cation. Source advised that he bought same for $25.00 from one KIRK MILLER, an anesthesiologist, who works at the Brown- Fondren Building of the Methodist Hospital, 6516 Bertner, Houston, Texas. Source states that MILLER wants to prove to the American people that President KENNEDY was also shot from the front and MILLER is using film to prove this point as President KENNEDY’s head appears to move back sharply after being shot in one scene of the film. Source states that MILLER alleges to have other copies of this film which he is going to sell at $25.00 each. Houston indices negative re Miller who is described as follows. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10044&relPageId=157 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Still waitin' Greg. IF you really saw it why not tell us the circumstances? Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it. An 8 mm film of the assassination, according to the document cited surfaced circa August 1971 as described below. Perhaps someone with a premium subscription [downloading privileges with same] can download the actual document. ADMIN FOLDER-O6: HSCA ADMINISTRATIVE FOLDER, ASSASSINATION MATTERS VOLUME II Found in: FBI - HSCA Administrative Folders (Date 5/10/71) 8/4/71 AIRTEL TO: DIRECTOR, FBI (62-109060) FROM: SAC, HOUSTON, (62-2115) (RUC) SUBJECT: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY Enclosed for the Bureau is one 8mm movie color movie film reflecting captioned assassination. HO-1677-PCI made available enclosed film on evening of 7/30/71. Film viewed at Houston on 8/2/71 for verifi- cation. Source advised that he bought same for $25.00 from one KIRK MILLER, an anesthesiologist, who works at the Brown- Fondren Building of the Methodist Hospital, 6516 Bertner, Houston, Texas. Source states that MILLER wants to prove to the American people that President KENNEDY was also shot from the front and MILLER is using film to prove this point as President KENNEDY's head appears to move back sharply after being shot in one scene of the film. Source states that MILLER alleges to have other copies of this film which he is going to sell at $25.00 each. Houston indices negative re Miller who is described as follows. http://www.maryferre...4&relPageId=157 Well, looks like this was not what I thought it was, I started reading the file this morning and did not see the previous page, which states "according to the FBI laboratory" that the film is a very poor copy of the Zapruder film.....Sorry folks http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10044&relPageId=156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Still waitin' Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony DeFiore Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 After reading this tremendous thread on the "other film", it is very apparent to me that if JFK researchers are 1) being setup with "hoax" films, 2) being disrupted during their research on websites and 3) can not have macadams, posner, bugliosi or mack make a mockery of jfk assassination research, THEN there must be elements of the truth in the research and a conspiracy must have occurred. When JFK Jr. died, there were attempts to prove a conspiracy, but it never took wings because the fact was ~ there wasn't much to go on to prove a conspiracy. With his father, the onion keeps unravelling, and government involvement, ballistic and autopsy fraud and a cast of related characters involved in the conspircay makes it all seem so true. The single bullet theory in and of itself illustrates conspiracy. IMHO, Landslide is the fulcrum that everything revloves around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Antony, pardon my english (second langage, aussie slang mix queens english)? Could you rephrase #3 please? It reads like a concise, and to me, agreeable statement but the 'glitch' throws me away from full comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Robbins Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I may be wrong, but, I read a book by Wm. Manchester about 30 years ago and in it I remember Manchester describing, moment by moment, the details of how Greer nearly came to a stop turning onto Elm from Houston, and how he nearly had to back the car up in order to negotiate the turn. Where did he get his information from? Witnesses or a film? If it was from film, he might have seen the "other film". I am currently unable to obtain the book to find the answer. No, I am not too lazy to find out for myself, I have been without work for some time now and I am fortunate to get infrequent access to the net. However, life is good and I expect to see better days again so I will not complain. Keep up the good work gang! Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I may be wrong, but, I read a book by Wm. Manchester about 30 years ago and in it I remember Manchester describing, moment by moment, the details of how Greer nearly came to a stop turning onto Elm from Houston, and how he nearly had to back the car up in order to negotiate the turn. Where did he get his information from? Witnesses or a film? If it was from film, he might have seen the "other film". I am currently unable to obtain the book to find the answer. When the Towner and Doorman films show the motorcade in continuous motion and alteration has not been shown to a possible factor, then another film that no one can cite, let alone confirm ... the Greer stopping during the turn onto Elm Street can only be seen in error. The same can be said about what one person may have said Vs the hundreds of witnesses who didn't say any such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I wonder if that wide turn onto Elm has something to do with the splice in the Towner film? Just because JFK is aligned with the corner of the TSBD after the splice, probably has nothing to do with film syncing. chris http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r25/123steamn/TOWNERLARGEFRAMES.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I wonder if that wide turn onto Elm has something to do with the splice in the Towner film? Just because JFK is aligned with the corner of the TSBD after the splice, probably has nothing to do with film syncing. chris http://i140.photobuc...LARGEFRAMES.gif The Reuters Film: Possible New Photographic Evidence URL/page 1 of article is 7th from the bottom The Continuing Inquiry Volume 8 Issue 4 http://www.baylor.edu/lib/poage/jones/index.php?id=57485 Filmed Accidentally “The correspondent said the FBI examined a color film taken by a young Naval rating. At the very moment of the killing, the young sailor was filming the motorcyclists escorting the presidential car. But in rewinding the camera, without meaning to, he photographed part of the facade of the building where Oswald was hidden....” I don’t claim to be an expert, but if the young Naval rating isn’t Leonard Pullin the Civilian Navy employee who helped film "Last Two Days" I would be very surprised. Maybe his “mysterious death” really was mysterious. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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