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On 6/24/2020 at 12:30 AM, Cliff Varnell said:

 She was supposed to have custody of the extant photos for the purpose of developing them — which she denies, this breaking the chain of custody.

If Saundra Kay Spencer didn’t develop the extant autopsy photos — who did?

What’s your proof that’s JFK in those photos?

Who developed them?

So the AARB got it wrong?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=797#relPageId=12

Well dude, right now I'm trying to make a couple of essays on the medical evidence with as many sources as possible. I don't see any contemporaneous documents suggesting the photos' chain of custody was broken before 1965. Yes, Saundra Spencer claimed to remember a different set of photos, but that was over 30 years later. Compared to all of the other pieces of evidence, the autopsy photos have a surprisingly decent chain of custody (although that's not saying much with the JFK case).

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1 hour ago, Micah Mileto said:

Well dude, right now I'm trying to make a couple of essays on the medical evidence with as many sources as possible. I don't see any contemporaneous documents suggesting the photos' chain of custody was broken before 1965. Yes, Saundra Spencer claimed to remember a different set of photos, but that was over 30 years later. Compared to all of the other pieces of evidence, the autopsy photos have a surprisingly decent chain of custody (although that's not saying much with the JFK case).

So who developed them?  Why weren't they produced according to proper autopsy protocol?

Spencer forgot what she saw, or was she lying?

There is no chain of custody if you can’t identify who developed them.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

So who developed them?  Why weren't they produced according to proper autopsy protocol?

Spencer forgot what she saw, or was she lying?

There is no chain of custody if you can’t identify who developed them.

 

 

I understand now. The person(s) who processed the film would be considered a part of the chain of custody.

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On 6/18/2020 at 11:44 AM, Micah Mileto said:

From the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, 11/27/1963, Movies Reconstruct Tragedy by Arthur J. Snider, Chicago Daily News Service:

 

The 6.5 mm bullet-about .25 caliber - pierced the President's neck just below the Adam's apple. It took a downward course.

 

"If you're wearing a bow tie, the position is just about where the knot is," said a Dallas neurosurgeon who saw the wound.

 

[...]

 

Identification of two points of entry, the throat and the skull, was made by Dr. Kemp Clark, neurosurgeon, and Dr. Tom Shires, chief of surgery at Parkland Hospital.

 

They said neither bullet was recovered in the hospital emergency room. One bullet was said to have emerged from the left temple.

 

([link 2, The Akron Beacon Journal, 11/28/1963, What Was Correct Bullet Sequence? First 2 hit JFK, Film Indicates by Arthur J. Snider, Beacon Journal, Chicago Daily News Wire])

 

From the Boston Globe, 11/27/1963, President's Neck, Head Hit by Bullets by Herbert Black:

 

The Globe has got from an unofficial but authoritative source here what is believed to be an accurate description of the course of events.

 

[…]

 

When he was struck, he apparently turned his head toward Mrs. Kennedy (to the left) and began to slump. A second bullet then tore into his left temple and emerged from the right top of his head, the mortal wound.

 

This information did not come from doctors at the hospital here, who have said they were too busy trying to save the President to study the trajectory of the bullets.

 

It is, however, from a source in position to know the facts, which were ascertained at the Naval Hopital in Bethesda, where Mr. Kennedy was taken.

 

This information was doubted at first because it reported that the President was hit on the left temple. It did not seem reasonable that a sniper above and to the right behind the car could hit him on the left side, but information from a film taken of the events tends to corroborate this.

 

The FBI is investigating all aspects of the shooting and that is believed to be the reason why the official medical reports from the naval hospital have not been released.

 

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 11/30/1963, UNCERTAINTIES REMAIN DESPITE POLICE VIEW OF KENNEDY DEATH – Did Assailant Have an Accomplice? by Richard Dudman:

 

There have been two other reports of injury to the President’s head. One of the physicians who attended him in Dallas said afterward that he had noticed a small entry wound in the left temple.

 

Another person, who saw the President’s body a ‘few minutes after he died,’ told the Post-Dispatch he thought he had observed a wound in the President’s forehead. He asked that his name not be used. Reports of the temple and forehead wounds could have referred to the same injury.

Do you have an update Micah?

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Google Bard, when asked "what ever happened to dr. gene akin, formerly employed at Parkland hospital in 1963 during the JFK assassination, and who later changed his name to solomon ben-israel?", gave this response:

 

Dr. Gene Akin, who later changed his name to Solomon Ben-Israel, died in 2017 at the age of 85. He was a general surgeon who was on duty at Parkland Hospital in Dallas on November 22, 1963, when President John F. Kennedy was brought in after being shot. Dr. Akin assisted in the treatment of President Kennedy, but he was unable to save his life.

After the assassination, Dr. Akin became a vocal critic of the Warren Commission's investigation, which he believed had not properly investigated the possibility of a conspiracy. He also changed his name to Solomon Ben-Israel and became a rabbi.

Dr. Akin continued to speak out about the assassination until his death. He believed that the truth about what happened to President Kennedy was still out there, and he hoped that one day it would be revealed.

In 2013, Dr. Akin published a book about his experiences, titled "The JFK Assassination: My Unfinished Business." In the book, he recounted his memories of the day of the assassination and his subsequent work to uncover the truth.

Dr. Akin's death was a loss to the community of JFK assassination researchers. He was a dedicated investigator who never gave up on his quest for the truth. His work will continue to be an inspiration to those who are still seeking answers about the events of that fateful day in Dallas.

 

Is any of this true? I can't find any book called "The JFK Assassination: My Unfinished Business."

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Just now, Micah Mileto said:

 

Google Bard makes up the funniest stuff. Lifton never had a wife named Betty.

 

"is there a copy of an unfinished manuscript of david lifton's book final charade?"

Yes, there is a copy of an unfinished manuscript of David Lifton's book Final Charade. The manuscript was donated to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum in 2004 by Lifton's widow, Betty Lifton.

The manuscript is incomplete, and it is not clear if Lifton ever intended to finish it. However, it is a valuable resource for JFK assassination researchers, as it contains Lifton's thoughts on the assassination and his investigation into it.

The manuscript is divided into two parts. The first part is a chronological account of the assassination, from the day of the shooting to the Warren Commission's investigation. The second part is a more analytical discussion of the assassination, in which Lifton explores the possibility of a conspiracy.

The manuscript is not without its flaws. Lifton's writing can be dense and difficult to follow, and he sometimes makes factual errors. However, the manuscript is still an important document, and it provides valuable insights into Lifton's thinking on the JFK assassination.

The manuscript is currently being digitized by the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum. It is expected to be available online in the near future.

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On 6/18/2020 at 3:41 PM, Rick McTague said:

Equally fascinating to this frontal head shot evidence and observations is the total lack of anyone at Parkland describing anything close to the huge orange blob/flap shown in the extant Zapruder film.  So this is doubly convicting - JFK was shot twice from the front and the orange blob/flap was manufactured in the film.

Thanks

We also have the black blobs in both Zapruder and Muchmore films which obscure the blowout in the back of the head.

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