Thomas Graves Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ray Mitcham said: Put the cane away, Thomas. In your correction of the note why did you bracket the "k" in the word "took" in the second sentence? Well, I suppose to suggest that HARVEY intended to write the word "took" there, but since he was smoking some really heavy xxxx that day, that old Hungarian word for "l mean" kinda crept into his subconscious, and he wrote it down, instead! What do you make of it, Master Mitcham? I mean, I mean, I mean, ..... given the fact that Oswald wasn't dyslexic or anything? -- Tommy Edited April 30, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said: Well, I suppose to suggest that HARVEY intended to write the word "took" there, but since he was smoking some really heavy xxxx that day, that old Hungarian word for "l mean" kinda crept into his subconscious, and he wrote it down, instead! What do you make of it, Master Mitcham? I mean, I mean, I mean, ..... given the fact that Oswald wasn't dyslexic or anything? -- Tommy Looks like "took" to me in his hand written note. Which word foyou think he wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ray Mitcham said: Looks like "took" to me in his hand written note. Which word foyou think he wrote? Huh? "Foyou"?! I'm afraid I'm gonna have to contact a moderator now. Using profane language on this here Forum is strictly prohibited. Edited April 30, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Thomas Graves said: Huh? "Foyou"?! I'm afraid I'm gonna have to a moderator now. Using profane language on this here Forum is strictly prohibited. Mistype "do you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Thomas Graves said: Huh? "Foyou"?! I'm afraid I'm gonna have to contact a moderator now. Using profane language on this here Forum is strictly prohibited. Edited and bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Edited April 30, 2017 by Ray Mitcham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Ray Mitcham said: Mistype "do you." Me? All the time. -- Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Thomas Graves said: Me? All the time. -- Tommy Now answer the question, Thomas. Which word do you think he wrote instead of "took"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ray Mitcham said: Hmm. So, that sneaky little Hungarian devil, HARVEY, did write "took," after all. (Thanks for pointing that out, Young Master Mitcham.) -- Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Thomas Graves said: Hmm. So, that sneaky little Hungarian devil, HARVEY, did write "took," after all. (Thanks for pointing that out, Young Master Mitcham.) -- Tommy Your welcome, Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Ray Mitcham said: Your welcome, Thomas. Excellent research, btw. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said: Excellent research, btw. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hargrove Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) On 4/29/2017 at 9:12 AM, Jim Hargrove said: According to H&L critics, we're supposed to believe their opinions over the opinion of Yale University Slavic Language Department head Vladimir Petrov, who wrote that a letter supposedly written by Harvey Oswald was actually "written by a Russian with an imperfect knowledge of English." And, of course, we're supposed to believe that, while reading Russian magazines with a Russian-English dictionary in his spare time in the Marine Corps, and while working full time in a factory in Minsk and taking no known language courses, Harvey Oswald learned to write Russian like this: And, of course, we're supposed to assume that the H&L critics know more about Harvey Oswald's Russian abilities than his friend George De Mohrenschildt, a Russian immigrant who wrote the following in his manuscript entitled "I AM A PATSY! I AM A PATSY": Incidentally I never saw him interested in anything else except Russian books and magazines . He said he didn't want to forget the language - but it amazed me that he read such difficult writers like Gorki, Dostoevski, Gogol, Tolstoi and Turgenieff - in Russian. As everyone knows Russian is a complex language and he was supposed to have stayed in the Soviet Union only a little over two years. He must have had some previous training and that point had never been brought up by the Warren Committee - and it is still puzzling to me. In my opinion Lee was a very bright person but not a genius. He never mastered the English language yet he learned such a dif- icult language! I taught Russian at all level in a large University, and I never saw such a profficiency in the best senior students who constantly listened to Russian tapes and spoke to Russian friends . As a matter of fact American-born instructors never mastered Russian spoken language as well as Lee did. No doubt we're also supposed to believe the opinions of H&L critics over the opinions of other Russian immigrants around Dallas who met Harvey Oswald and shared their thoughts: Natalie Ray was asked by Commission attorney Wesley Liebeler, "Did he (Oswald) speak to you in Russian?" Mrs. Ray replied, "Yes; just perfect; really surprised me ... it's just too good speaking Russian for be such a short time, you know.... I said, 'How come you speak so good Russian? I been here so long and still don't speak very well English." Mrs. Teofil (Anna) Meller was asked by Liebeler, "Do you think that his command of the Russian language was better than you would expect for the period of time that he had spent in Russia?" Mrs. Meller replied, "Yes; absolutely better than I would expect." Peter Gregory told Warren Commission Representative Gerald Ford, "I thought that Lee Oswald spoke (Russian) with a Polish accent, that is why I asked him if he was of Polish decent." And on and on. No doubt H&L critics want us to believe that Harvey Oswald's Russian fluency was a natural result of his self-study in the Marines and his two and a half years in the USSR, but I don't believe it, and I think a whole lot of people without an axe to grind in this debate won't believe it either. And I haven't even mentioned above Harvey Oswald's obvious familiarity with the Russian language before he even "defected" to the Soviet Union. Could we get back to the questions at hand? Edited May 1, 2017 by Jim Hargrove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jim Hargrove said: Could we get back to the questions at hand? Jim, Okay. My conclusion: Regarding just the syntax, grammar, and vocabulary that he used (i.e., excluding his spelling and punctuation shortcomings), your "Harvey" spoke and wrote better English than most college graduates. How do you like *them* apples? -- Tommy Edited May 1, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 5:51 PM, Sandy Larsen said: Has this been published on your website yet, Jim? Jim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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