Where are the "research communities" of other historical conspiracy theories, e.g. WTC93, OKC, 9/11, 7/7, etc.

[David Andrews]

1 hour ago, Richard Booth said:

Came across that about a week ago. Very well done piece. I remember seeing some of the stories it cites--the two guys pulled off the train for example. Shocking how much of that went down the memory hole. 

Another piece I came across last week:

http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2011/04/many-false-hijackings-of-911.html

This one is briefly mentioned in Bojinka Maximum, worth a read.

You mention Israeli espionage in that art students story. If you're interested in Israeli espionage and history I recommend reading "The Killing of Karen Silkwood" by Richard Rashke. Bottom line is that the companies NUMEC and Kerr-McGee were diverting fissile nuclear material to Israel for use in their nuclear program. Enough material was diverted from Kerr-McGee to make several nuclear weapons, and at the time whistleblower Karen Silkwood's work was putting her on a path to discovering, and publicizing that missing nuclear material.

Consequently, it's no surprise that she was murdered. The NUMEC/Kerr-McGee nuclear material diversion was tied to James Angleton (see 'The Ghost' for additional details on Angleton and NUMEC) and the Mossad, and I think that Karen Silkwood's murder was a direct result of James Angleton protecting his operation. 

I've heard that angle to the Silkwood case.  I'll check out the Rashke book for more.

[W. Niederhut]

8 hours ago, Richard Booth said:

I think one of the biggest problems facing research for other events is that it seems today people just do not read. They don't read, write, or analyze or dig into things. They just make videos. 

Look to 9/11 and some of the best research I've seen there comes from "DJ Thermal Detonator" (see video "BOJINKA MAXIMUM") which is a video containing many, many primary source citations of things that aired in the newsmedia that just went down the memory hole. However, there is no existing written record that is comparable to that. Maybe Paul Thompson's "The Terror Timeline" but that's almost 20 years old now.

When I do see people talking about, say, the Oklahoma City bombing, I find that overwhelmingly people are low-information on that. Just yesterday I saw someone write "OKC was a random nut" -- and nothing can be further from the truth as the record of that case proves, McVeigh was part of a network of white supremacists which even today still threaten us, as evidenced by Atomwaffen Division, the Proud Boys, the January 6th insurrection.  So if people continue in their low-information ways, just refusing to read or examine readily available records, they cannot complain when later down the line we see another horrific attack by a white supremacist, at least they can't say "why didn't we see this coming?" -- if people were paying attention to the record they would realize that this is a very real threat and that Oklahoma City was anything but a "random nut" but rather it is a chilling example of what these people can do, and to a larger extent, how they got away with it. You won't find McVeigh's accomplices in prison today and his chief co-conspirator was never captured. Just a few years before the bombing, you'll find the 1988 Sedition Trial where the defendants also got away with it: found NOT GUILTY. Acquitted of all charges. Which emboldened them. 

For some reason people just don't research other events with the same level of scholarship and seriousness you see with JFK. At least, if they do, there does not exist an online community where the scholars interact. Instead you just find people online arguing about whether or not the 9/11 planes were holograms and other nonsense. That community has been entirely compromised but that is another story.

 

Richard,

This is simply not accurate.

The real question is why people in the U.S. are still so astonishingly unaware of the high quality 9/11 research and analysis out there-- including people in the JFK assassination research community who know how effectively the U.S. government and mainstream media have covered up the truth about 11/22/63 for the past 58 years.

Unfortunately, the quality 9/11 research and analysis has been both misrepresented and blacked out of the U.S. mainstream media-- as we have seen in the case of Spike Lee's new HBO documentary.

I.  The most scholarly scientific research has been done by the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth-- an organization comprised of more than a thousand accredited, professional architects and engineers, including academicians.  These people are not uneducated kooks and conspiracy theorists.

Is there anything comparable to the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth in the JFKA research community?

https://www.ae911truth.org/

 

II. The 9/11 Best Evidence Consensus Panel is also an excellent scholarly site.

https://www.consensus911.org/

 

III. Another accurate 9/11 website is 911research.wtc7.net.

https://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

 

IV. Professor David Ray Griffin of Claremont College has published a number of accurate, scholarly books and essays about 9/11.

https://www.amazon.com/David-Ray-Griffin/e/B000APTCK4/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1

 

V.  The free lance journalist and author Christoper Bollyn has been studying and publishing well-researched books and articles about 9/11 for the past 20 years.

https://bollynbooks.com/

 

VI.  The Sorbonne-educated French engineer and historian Laurent Guyenot has been a member of this Education Forum in the past.

Guyenot has written some interesting books on the subject of 9/11, including From JFK to 9/11-- 50 Years of Deep State.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20624256-jfk-9-11

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by W. Niederhut

[George Govus]

I had forgotten that Mr. Caddy once posted on the Forum a link to the fascinating UNZ Review. Laurent Guyenot last posted there towards the end of August. (Article title: "9/11 Was a Straussian Coup.")

[David Andrews]

To associate foreign states with 9/11 terror is to come to terms with this formula, expressed, in not as few words, by Webster Tarpley (9/11: Synthetic Terror Made in USA) and Richard Labeviere (Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam), and perhaps by others:

The US is the Israelis

The US is the Saudis

The US is the Pakistanis

Meaning that our economic and political ties with these countries precluded their involvement in 9/11 without the knowledge and direction of elements in the US.

Obviously, in our relations with these states, there will be constant pushback in the name of their interests and identity politics, spanning decades and changing with emergent circumstances.  But for the logistical run-up to 9/11, for the event itself, and for the coverup and misdirection after, they acted on our behalf and at our behest. 

Edited September 13, 2021 by David Andrews