Vince Palamara Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Secret Service (INCLUDING JOHN JOE HOWLETT!) surround the car including military and police. In a still photo, DALLAS POLICE CHIEF JESSE CURRY shakes JFK's hand! 2 press photographers flatbed trucks in front of limo. The Secret Service did NOT protect CANDIDATES until after Bobby was killed, so why they are protecting the candidates is unusual. RARE film of the only other JFK/LBJ motorcade: 9/11/60 DALLAS/FORT WORTH! Good security and press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Never seen this specific footage before, wow. Is that Main Street they’re traveling, with all the ticker tape flying in the air? Would make sense they’d go right through the heart of downtown. Love the footage of Kennedy holding a ten gallon hat in his hand (never putting it on, of course!). If I remember correctly the hat was a gift from Lyndon, who thought Jack should wear it to impress the Texans on this campaign trip through the state. 🤠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 10 hours ago, Lori Spencer said: Never seen this specific footage before, wow. Is that Main Street they’re traveling, with all the ticker tape flying in the air? Would make sense they’d go right through the heart of downtown. Love the footage of Kennedy holding a ten gallon hat in his hand (never putting it on, of course!). If I remember correctly the hat was a gift from Lyndon, who thought Jack should wear it to impress the Texans on this campaign trip through the state. 🤠 A couple people stated that that is Main Street (there are still photos of them travelling down Main Street but, like FDR in 1936, in the opposite direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 13 hours ago, Vince Palamara said: A couple people stated that that is Main Street (there are still photos of them travelling down Main Street but, like FDR in 1936, in the opposite direction. Thanks! It sure looks like Main Street to me. Makes me wonder if they went through Dealey Plaza on that 1960 motorcade route? Never seen a map of their 1960 Dallas motorcade route, but it would make logical routing sense. FDR’s motorcade went through Dealey Plaza in ‘36, to the newly-constructed underpass (which I think was a WPA project, if memory serves correct.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 16 hours ago, Lori Spencer said: Thanks! It sure looks like Main Street to me. Makes me wonder if they went through Dealey Plaza on that 1960 motorcade route? Never seen a map of their 1960 Dallas motorcade route, but it would make logical routing sense. FDR’s motorcade went through Dealey Plaza in ‘36, to the newly-constructed underpass (which I think was a WPA project, if memory serves correct.) Thanks! Oh, they 100 percent definitely went thru Dealey Plaza (see still photo from the video thumbnail). While I cannot swear the actual film excerpt is from Dealey Plaza itself, they definitely went that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 hours ago, Lori Spencer said: Thanks! It sure looks like Main Street to me. Makes me wonder if they went through Dealey Plaza on that 1960 motorcade route? Never seen a map of their 1960 Dallas motorcade route, but it would make logical routing sense. FDR’s motorcade went through Dealey Plaza in ‘36, to the newly-constructed underpass (which I think was a WPA project, if memory serves correct.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Thanks for those great pics, Vince. Astonishing to look at those pics of JFK and LBJ cruising through downtown in an open car together, swarmed by people, with no secret service and only local police protection. A sniper’s dream if someone had the inclination to do such a crazy thing… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Zartman Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Look at all those protesters with all those open umbrellas! Gosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Lori Spencer said: Thanks for those great pics, Vince. Astonishing to look at those pics of JFK and LBJ cruising through downtown in an open car together, swarmed by people, with no secret service and only local police protection. A sniper’s dream if someone had the inclination to do such a crazy thing… There were at least two Secret Service agents- John Joe Howlett and one other. They appear in the film/video at one point and can be seen clearly in the photo with Cheif Curry extending his hand to JFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Vince Palamara said: There were at least two Secret Service agents- John Joe Howlett and one other. They appear in the film/video at one point and can be seen clearly in the photo with Cheif Curry extending his hand to JFK. I thought presidential candidates didn’t get SS protection until 1968, after RFK’s murder? Can you explain this to me like I’m 5 years old.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lori Spencer said: I thought presidential candidates didn’t get SS protection until 1968, after RFK’s murder? Can you explain this to me like I’m 5 years old.. You are correct. Why agents are protecting them here is baffling. Then again, there are famous newsreels of JFK and Jackie during the campaign in 1960 in an open motorcade in NY and there are several agents protecting them, as well, so perhaps they did it as an unofficial courtesy before it became law. Edited November 26, 2022 by Vince Palamara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Vince Palamara said: You are correct. Why agents are protecting them here is baffling. Then again, there are famous newsreels of JFK and Jackie during the campaign in 1960 in an open motorcade in NY and there are several agents protecting them, as well, so perhaps they did it as an unofficial courtesy before it became law. As it's a fact it happened in Dallas and NY that would make sense. Maybe not all candidates for the whole campaign. But once one was nominated by his party and thus considered a legitimate possible future president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 8:28 PM, Vince Palamara said: Secret Service (INCLUDING JOHN JOE HOWLETT!) surround the car including military and police. In a still photo, DALLAS POLICE CHIEF JESSE CURRY shakes JFK's hand! 2 press photographers flatbed trucks in front of limo. The Secret Service did NOT protect CANDIDATES until after Bobby was killed, so why they are protecting the candidates is unusual. RARE film of the only other JFK/LBJ motorcade: 9/11/60 DALLAS/FORT WORTH! Good security and press They could only move as fast as the flag bearers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) More info on JFK's 1960 Dallas visit: http://dallasnews.com/interactives/2013-October/JFK1960 My own photo page: http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/10/JFK In Dallas In 1960 Click to enlarge: Edited November 26, 2022 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Vince, your 1960 parade pictures take me back in another respect. JFK also gave a speech at the old, newish then Dallas Memorial Auditorium. The pictures along the parade route show a remarkable crowd. Which took me to a picture of JFK I remember from that speech. At a place I later saw Jethro Tull with the Eagles opening for them, Led Zepplin, Humble Pie, Bad Company, Lynrd Skynrd and Black Sabbath. It held 11,500. Looks pretty full. For JFK in the south in 1960. As well as the parade route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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