Steve Thomas Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 An "incentive to curry favor..." Looks like Donald Trump is trying again to get Mike Pence killed. Trump lawyers suggest Mike Pence is colluding with Biden to bring down their client by Brad Reed November 28, 2023 https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2666375046/ “In a filing flagged by Politico's Kyle Cheney, Trump attorneys suggested that Pence may have felt incentivized to turn on Trump because of leverage held over him by government prosecutors investigating his handling of classified documents. "In January 2023, Vice President Mike Pence reportedly turned over at least a "dozen" documents bearing classification markings," the attorneys argue. "In February 2023, the FBI found at least one additional classified document at Vice President Pence's home... The potential charges faced by Vice President Pence gave him an incentive to curry favor with authorities by providing information that is consistent with the Biden Administration's preferred, and false, narrative regarding this case." In fact, most legal experts predicted that Pence would face no charges at all for his retention of classified documents because, unlike Trump, he cooperated with investigators and did not try to obstruct law enforcement officials who were attempting to retrieve any documents.” Can you spell bullseye on his back? Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Donald Trump has given the religious right multiple orgasms by promising to "cast out" Communists, Fascists, hippie commie pinko freaks, women, dogs, cats, pigeons, horses and all manner of evil. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: Donald Trump has given the religious right multiple orgasms by promising to "cast out" Communists, Fascists, hippie commie pinko freaks, women, dogs, cats, pigeons, horses and all manner of evil. Steve Thomas Yes, and Trump is suddenly denouncing "communists," while also bragging about his bromance with communist dictator, Kim Jong Un. Talk about your MAGA reductio ad absurdum. Meanwhile, Bibi Netanyahu is saying the quiet part out loud... Netanyahu Says He Is 'Only One Who Will Prevent a Palestinian State' (commondreams.org) Edited November 28, 2023 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Matt Allison said: Least shocking thing ever. I wonder when the American people will be told the truth and learn that the 2nd Cold War has been an ongoing conflict for a solid 15 years now. https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-vladimir-putin-hijacks-israel-gaza-war-to-fuel-tension-in-the-west/ The Israeli-Hamas war has given Russia a golden opportunity to sow division among its Western enemies. It's a chance Vladimir Putin's disinformation machine was never going to miss. Since the outbreak of hostilities on October 7, Kremlin-linked Facebook accounts have ramped up their output by almost 400 percent, with the Middle East crisis now dominating posts from Russian diplomats, state-backed outlets and Putin supporters in the West. The lies spread by Moscow's digital propagandists now include claims that Hamas terrorists are using NATO weapons to attack Israel and that British instructors trained Hamas attackers. The entrenched — and bloody — conflict represents a double opportunity for Putin. It allows Russia to foment division in the West via targeted social media activity aimed at splitting those in support of Israel from those who back Palestine. Real-world violence, particularly against Jews, has spiked over the last seven weeks and anti-war protests by hundreds of thousands of people have sprouted up from London to Washington. Russia's Middle East social media onslaught also pulls public attention away from its war in Ukraine, which has become bogged down after a succession of military missteps, a mutiny by Wagner mercenaries, and a long-running counteroffensive from Kyiv. "Taking attention off Ukraine is only a good thing for Russia," said Bret Schafer, head of the information manipulation team and the German Marshall Fund of the United States' Alliance for Securing Democracy, a Washington-based think tank. "The more the Western public is focused on Israel and Hamas, the less they're paying attention to the fact that Congress is about to not fund Ukraine's war effort," he added. "Shining a light on other places pulls attention away from Ukraine." The Kremlin's online assault mirrors Putin's geopolitical game-playing since the Hamas attacks of October 7. His government hosted Hamas leaders in Moscow at the end of October — apparently as he sought to play a mediation role on the release of Israeli hostages. Russia and Hamas have a common ally in Iran and Putin himself has warned that Israeli military action in Gaza could escalate beyond the region. The Kremlin was quick to weaponize the Israel-Hamas war for its own propaganda purposes. In the seven weeks since Hamas fighters attacked Israel, Russian Facebook accounts have posted 44,000 times compared to a mere 14,000 posts in the seven weeks before the conflict began, according to data compiled by the Alliance for Securing Democracy. In total, Russian-backed social media activity on Facebook was shared almost 400,000 times collectively, a four-fold increase compared to posts published before the conflict. The most-shared keywords now include many phrases associated with the conflict like "Hamas" and the "Middle East," while before the war, Russia's state media and diplomatic accounts had focused almost exclusively on either Ukraine or Putin's role in the world. The near-400 percent increase in posts from Russian government-linked accounts represents a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of Facebook posts about the Middle East conflict from regular social media users over the same time period. But many of the Kremlin-backed accounts — especially those from sanctioned media outlets like RT and Sputnik — have an oversized digital reach. Collectively, these companies boast millions of followers in Europe, Latin America and Africa, even though the EU has imposed sanctions on their broadcast and social media operations. "They use whatever they can to spread anti-West messaging," said Jakub Kalenský, a deputy director at the European Center of Excellence for Countering Hybrid Threats, a joint NATO-EU organization tracking state-backed influence campaigns. "They surf on the wave of the news cycle because they are competing for the same audience that is consuming solid media sources." Such digital propaganda can have real-world effects. Some in the West now openly question how long governments can support Ukraine in its costly war against Russia in a time of economic uncertainty. In France, for instance, the foreign affairs ministry accused a Russian-affiliated network of social media bots of amplifying anti-semitic images of Stars of David graffiti on buildings across Paris. French officials blamed Russia for "creating tensions" between supporters of Israel and those who favored Palestine. President Biden never once considered the geopolitical threats to America and the free world posed by the war initiated by Hamas against Israel on October 7th after Gazans had suffered 75 years of living in an open-air prison. Recklessly soon thereafter, he flew to Israel and attended its war council meeting at which the plan to destroy Gaza through genocide was agreed upon. U.S. made 2000-pound bombs subsequently have been used by Israel on Gaza and along with vast quantities of other U.S. armaments. Much of Gaza has now been reduced to rubble. Untold thousands of Gazan civilians have been slaughtered in an Israeli war campaign that included dropping bombs on hospitals, schools and refugee camps. People around the globe have daily watched on TV this planned genocide take place and are horrified. They blame Israel and America. Not deterred by the humanitarian disaster in which he has participated, Biden how wants to give $14 billion of U.S. taxpayer money to Israel. Of course, Russia, China, North Korea and Iran are gleefully taking advantage of what Biden has wrought by his openly siding with Israel without his consideration of the consequences. We are seeing the early stages of the Forever War that may well end in the destruction of both the United States and Israel. Six million Jews were innocent victims of a mass genocide carried out by Hitler in World War II. Why are the Israels themselves today engaging in the mass genocide of innocent civilians in Gaza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: Six million Jews were innocent victims of a mass genocide carried out by Hitler in World War II. Why are the Israels themselves today engaging in the mass genocide of innocent civilians in Gaza? Thank god President Biden has Netanyahu's ear and has been able to temper his actions. Because of Biden's efforts, there is now a ceasefire in effect, Israeli and American hostages are being released, and humanitarian aid is rolling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: President Biden never once considered the geopolitical threats to America and the free world posed by the war initiated by Hamas against Israel on October 7th after Gazans had suffered 75 years of living in an open-air prison. Perhaps Biden should have taken up the reading of tea leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: President Biden never once considered the geopolitical threats to America and the free world posed by the war initiated by Hamas against Israel on October 7th after Gazans had suffered 75 years of living in an open-air prison. Yeah. I mean, why did Biden waste all his political capital on things like preventing another Great Recession due to Covid shutting down businesses (remember all those stimulus checks?), and stopping Putin in his quest to revive the old Soviet Union, when instead he could have been solving all the world's other conflicts and potential conflicts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I just listened on MSNBC to the Executive Director of Doctors Without Borders that has medical personnel in Gaza. She explained how the aid being delivered in Gaza during the war pause is essentially a drop in the bucket. Soon there will be mass deaths of Gazans from lack of food, water and medical care. Cholera is raising its head. It is planned genocide. Biden at one time even questioned the number of people dying Gaza. Just like his disastrous withdraw in Afghanistan caused misery and death on an epic scale there, so has his policy in Gaza resulted in the same. I have always praised Biden for his domestic policies and administration within the United States. However, his foreign policies have been disastrous. A ballistic missile was fired at one of our ships yesterday. I predicted here in the past that this would happen. Fasten your seat belts, fellow Americans, for we face treacherous ride into a very dark future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 As an aside, other things to worry about. If a big enough gamma ray hits us CNN won't have time to play their doomsday video. Not intended to trivialize Hammas-Gaza-Israel or Ukraine. But with all that we need a little levity now and then. 13 Eerie Facts That Keep Me Up At Night (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: As an aside, other things to worry about. If a big enough gamma ray hits us CNN won't have time to play their doomsday video. Not intended to trivialize Hammas-Gaza-Israel or Ukraine. But with all that we need a little levity now and then. 13 Eerie Facts That Keep Me Up At Night (msn.com) Ron, This reminds me of the apocalyptic U2 song from the Achtung, Baby album-- Until the End of the World -- which I have probably listened to a thousand times over the years while roller blading my 5 miles per day in our local park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 16 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: An "incentive to curry favor..." Looks like Donald Trump is trying again to get Mike Pence killed. Trump lawyers suggest Mike Pence is colluding with Biden to bring down their client by Brad Reed November 28, 2023 https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2666375046/ “In a filing flagged by Politico's Kyle Cheney, Trump attorneys suggested that Pence may have felt incentivized to turn on Trump because of leverage held over him by government prosecutors investigating his handling of classified documents. "In January 2023, Vice President Mike Pence reportedly turned over at least a "dozen" documents bearing classification markings," the attorneys argue. "In February 2023, the FBI found at least one additional classified document at Vice President Pence's home... The potential charges faced by Vice President Pence gave him an incentive to curry favor with authorities by providing information that is consistent with the Biden Administration's preferred, and false, narrative regarding this case." In fact, most legal experts predicted that Pence would face no charges at all for his retention of classified documents because, unlike Trump, he cooperated with investigators and did not try to obstruct law enforcement officials who were attempting to retrieve any documents.” Can you spell bullseye on his back? Steve Thomas Interesting Steve, This is from Jonathan Karl about Pence ABC News Exclusive: Pence notes reveal he had initially decided not to preside over electoral count on January 6: “Not feeling like I should attend electoral count. Too many questions, too many doubts, too hurtful to my friend. Therefore I’m not going to participate in certification of election.” You remember at first, Pence was going to coward out and leave the responsibility to Charles Grassley! So it was his phone call to fellow Hoosier VP, Dan Quayle that told him to be there and fulfill his constitutional duty. Good grief! ***** George Conway accounting Liz Cheney's story about Kevin Mc Carthy from her upcoming book. “Cheney also accuses McCarthy of repeatedly lying and choosing the ‘craven’ path of embracing Trump. She recounts the moment she first found out that McCarthy … secretly went to visit Trump at Mar-a-Lago just three weeks after the Jan. 6 attack.  “At first, Cheney thought the photo of the two men smiling and shaking hands was fake. But she was incredulous at McCarthy’s defense of his visit. He claimed Trump’s staff summoned him. “‘Mar-a-Lago? What the hell, Kevin?’ Cheney asked. “‘They’re really worried,’ McCarthy said. ‘Trump’s not eating, so they asked me to come see him.’ “‘What? You went to Mar-a-Lago because Trump’s not eating?’ Cheney responded. “‘Yeah, he’s really depressed,’ McCarthy said.” Yeah, Trump was eating as evidenced by his having McCarthy for dessert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Joe Biden blasted for weak response to attacks on US bases: 'Americans will die' - World News - News - Daily Express US (the-express.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: Joe Biden blasted for weak response to attacks on US bases: 'Americans will die' - World News - News - Daily Express US (the-express.com) Biden and the U.S. are in a real pickle now, as a result of Netanyahu's bombing of Gaza. Should Biden resume a U.S. war against the (Iranian-backed) governments in Baghdad and Damascus-- and the Houthis in Yemen, or should we get our unwelcome, post-war troops and bases out of Iraq and Syria? As I understand the situation, the Bush-Cheney-Neocon war to depose Saddam Hussein has, basically, resulted in the establishment of a Shiite Tehran-Baghdad-Damascus military axis in the Middle East. Saddam Hussein's Sunni Baathist government had served as a counter-balance to Tehran's potential hegemony in Iraq and Syria. Gary Hart was ridiculed by Bill O'Reilly on Fox News in March of 2003 for arguing that invading Iraq and deposing Saddam Hussein could destabilize the balance of power in the Persian Gulf. So, here we are. Edited November 29, 2023 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Should Biden resume a U.S. war against the (Iranian-backed) governments in Baghdad and Damascus-- and the Houthis in Yemen, or should we get our unwelcome, post-war troops and bases out of Iraq and Syria? I don't know what the answer to that is. What I do know is that Biden will be damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Thomas Friedman says there is a way out of all of this. In my opinion, it is a long shot to succeed because Israel is intent on going into South Gaza, where it has sent all the Gazans. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/28/opinion/israel-palestinians-war-iran.html?unlocked_article_code=1.CE0.0DEi.nJzUoA3eZLMZ&smid=url-share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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