Relevance of John Lennon's assassination -and RFK/MLK -to JFKA

[Michael Griffith]

Yes, please move this nuttiness out of the JFKA forum. It's embarrassing. It's bad enough that we have some people peddling 9/11 Truther craziness in this forum. 

[W. Niederhut]

30 minutes ago, Michael Griffith said:

Yes, please move this nuttiness out of the JFKA forum. It's embarrassing. It's bad enough that we have some people peddling 9/11 Truther craziness in this forum. 

Meanwhile, we're still waiting for Michael Griffith to tell us the "nutty" melting point of steel, and to explain why the Maryland bank of the CIA's Chief Operating Officer, Alvin "Buzz" Krongard, was identified as the major short-seller of United Airlines stock just prior to 9/11.

Not to mention those visible serial explosions during the free fall collapses of the WTC Twin Towers. 🙄

Edited April 25, 2023 by W. Niederhut

[David Whelan]

Your rudeness is tiresome and telling Michael.

If you believe Lennon's assassination could not have any relevance to the JFK and RFK assassinations, why engage in a thread that has the subject implied in the title?

This JFK forum is a wide church with a myriad of subjects. if the subject is not to your liking - why join the thread? 

Please do not mistake my desire for a separate Lennon murder thread, as an implied admission that the subject has no relevance to other famous assassinations of the 1960's. As RFK Jr has often stated, a brain-washed patsy and a second shooter set-up, was a very real possibility in his father's assassination. It also is a very real possibility in John Lennon's murder.

Edited April 25, 2023 by David Whelan

[Guest]

20 hours ago, John Cotter said:

Given the CIA’s penchant for engineering assassinations of political “undesirables” and setting up patsies to take the blame, it’s not all far-fetched to wonder if John Lennon was a victim of this murderous modus operandi.

Here’s an article about John Lennon’s political radicalism, “Gimme Some Truth: John Lennon’s Political Rebirth”, subtitled “Penning songs such as ‘Gimme Some Truth,’ John Lennon radicalized his music and became one of the most politically engaged musicians in history.”:

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/gimme-some-truth-john-lennon-politics/

The lyrics of Lennon’s song “Working Class Hero” are a scathing critique of the American Dream:

As soon as you're born they make you feel small

By giving you no time instead of it all

Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all

A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school

They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool

Till you're so xxxxing crazy you can't follow their rules

A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty-odd years

Then they expect you to pick a career

When you can't really function you're so full of fear

A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV

And you think you're so clever and classless and free

But you're still xxxxing peasants as far as I can see

A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill

If you want to be like the folks on the hill

A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be

If you want to be a hero well just follow me

If you want to be a hero well just follow me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMewtlmkV6c

Yep 

Given the pattern, track record of govt agencies, it should be seriously considered. 

[Pete Mellor]

It wasn’t until 1983, when journalist Jim Gaines got to interview Mark Chapman in prison and conducted lengthy audio interviews with him, that Perdomo’s name surfaced to the world. In a subsequent 1987 People magazine article, Gaines wrote:

At the Dakota, Chapman had only the Dakota’s night doorman, José Perdomo, to keep him company. José was an anti-Castro Cuban, and they talked that night of the Bay of Pigs and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Directly after the shooting, as public & press began gathering outside on the street, Perdomo stated he did not want to be outside as doorman, and got one of the other Dakota staff to work as doorman.  So Perdomo was never seen or interviewed or photographed by press.

Also, Perdomo was supposed to have given a statement to police and D.A. in N.Y. but this has never seen the light of day.

[Pamela Brown]

On 4/25/2023 at 2:04 PM, David Whelan said:

Your rudeness is tiresome and telling Michael.

If you believe Lennon's assassination could not have any relevance to the JFK and RFK assassinations, why engage in a thread that has the subject implied in the title?

This JFK forum is a wide church with a myriad of subjects. if the subject is not to your liking - why join the thread? 

Please do not mistake my desire for a separate Lennon murder thread, as an implied admission that the subject has no relevance to other famous assassinations of the 1960's. As RFK Jr has often stated, a brain-washed patsy and a second shooter set-up, was a very real possibility in his father's assassination. It also is a very real possibility in John Lennon's murder.

We may come to see that we can't fully comprehend the forces that eliminated JFK until we understand what really happened to John Lennon. However, the connection is deep, so keeping an open mind is essential...

[Pamela Brown]

3 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

It wasn’t until 1983, when journalist Jim Gaines got to interview Mark Chapman in prison and conducted lengthy audio interviews with him, that Perdomo’s name surfaced to the world. In a subsequent 1987 People magazine article, Gaines wrote:

At the Dakota, Chapman had only the Dakota’s night doorman, José Perdomo, to keep him company. José was an anti-Castro Cuban, and they talked that night of the Bay of Pigs and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Directly after the shooting, as public & press began gathering outside on the street, Perdomo stated he did not want to be outside as doorman, and got one of the other Dakota staff to work as doorman.  So Perdomo was never seen or interviewed or photographed by press.

Also, Perdomo was supposed to have given a statement to police and D.A. in N.Y. but this has never seen the light of day.

There are links on the google group rmb about this:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.beatles/c/j2c_RQuTpec/m/eumiKfXKNg0J

[David Whelan]

12 hours ago, Pamela Brown said:

There are links on the google group rmb about this:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.beatles/c/j2c_RQuTpec/m/eumiKfXKNg0J

I go into who Jose Perdomo may have been on my substack.

https://davidwhelan.substack.com/p/jose-perdomo-the-mysterious-dakota

[David Whelan]

14 hours ago, Pamela Brown said:

We may come to see that we can't fully comprehend the forces that eliminated JFK until we understand what really happened to John Lennon. However, the connection is deep, so keeping an open mind is essential...

The truth is finally coming out.

https://davidwhelan.substack.com/

[Pamela Brown]

2 hours ago, David Whelan said:

The truth is finally coming out.

https://davidwhelan.substack.com/

Including what was happening prior to the assassination...

[Michael Griffith]

On 4/25/2023 at 3:04 PM, David Whelan said:

Your rudeness is tiresome and telling Michael.

 

It's not rudeness. If something is nutty, it is not rude to call it nutty. The idea that the Secret Team/High Cabal killed Lennon is nutty. The idea that 9/11 was an inside job is nutty, just plain nutty. 

This forum has degenerated into a home for every nutty, crackpot theory ever to occur to the minds of some men. 

[David Whelan]

28 minutes ago, Michael Griffith said:

It's not rudeness. If something is nutty, it is not rude to call it nutty. The idea that the Secret Team/High Cabal killed Lennon is nutty. The idea that 9/11 was an inside job is nutty, just plain nutty. 

This forum has degenerated into a home for every nutty, crackpot theory ever to occur to the minds of some men. 

 

28 minutes ago, Michael Griffith said:

It's not rudeness. If something is nutty, it is not rude to call it nutty. The idea that the Secret Team/High Cabal killed Lennon is nutty. The idea that 9/11 was an inside job is nutty, just plain nutty. 

This forum has degenerated into a home for every nutty, crackpot theory ever to occur to the minds of some men. 

 

 Stop wasting our time. I have reported you.

[Pamela Brown]

On 4/28/2023 at 1:29 PM, David Whelan said:

 

 

 Stop wasting our time. I have reported you.

Why not simply put him on ignore and move on?

[Jonathan Cohen]

This is one of the more embarrassing threads on this forum in recent memory, and that's really saying something ...

[John Cotter]

5 hours ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

This is one of the more embarrassing threads on this forum in recent memory, and that's really saying something ...

The long-suffering masochist who can resist anything but temptation.