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Just now, Paul Brancato said:

Joseph and Robert - no need at all for tension. The way I see it Robert is complaining that all the info on N…s etc just sits without analysis. So he deserves credit for pulling it out and posting it. And I have to agree with one basic thing, and that is that the CIA/Gehlen org links, the cover names for former N…s, etc is rarely talked about by any of the major authors here. I don’t presume to know why that is. When Robert digs it up and posts it it sure seems like a discovery to me, even if it technically may not be. I’d rather discuss how much of a revelation docs like the WIROGUE ones might be, or what the significance or relation to other ops or operatives, than whether Robert deserves more or less credit for posting it. And since you Joseph are clearly a document hunter and well versed, what do you make of these documents? 

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

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11 minutes ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

 

Do you have anything to say about the material content of the damn document?

 

If not, shove off.

 

Once again, I don't need affirmation or a pair lips pressed against my ass.

 

Now please, move on.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

 

For Pete's sake, Mr. Knight, you literally gave me advisement that I could rejoin this forum as long as I recognized the rules and remained civil.

How can I do that, when I have someone like Joe Backes jumping down my throat.

If the factual information I am posting is inconvenient to a certain narrative, please, just be straight with me. 

If not, then please, get the guy off my back.

This is really embarrassing.

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2 hours ago, Robert Montenegro said:

Mr. Cole, I would stress that David “El Indio” Sánchez Morales AKA Stanley R. Zamka had the following responsibilities at JMWAVE in 1963:

  • Chief of Foreign Intelligence, CIA Counterintelligence Staff, Western Hemisphere Division
  • Cuban Operations/ CIA liaison, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station
  • Commander, JMDUSK (security branch, JMWAVE)
  • Commander AMOT (anti-Castro Cuban intelligence branch)
  • Commander Operation 40 (anti-Castro Cuban intelligence branch)
  • JMWAVE Chief of Covert Action
  • JMWAVE Chief of Counterintelligence
  • Commander AMFAST (anti-Castro Cuban counterintelligence branch)

But David Sánchez Morales was also a Gehlen Organization operative when he was sheep-dipped from US Army Counterintelligence Corps to CIA in 1949.

David Sánchez Morales was also in-charge of anti-Castro Cuban operatives that were fighting in the Congo against Comandante Ernesto "Che " Guevara.

David Sánchez Morales would later hunt, capture, torture and murder "Che" Guevara in Bolivia—where Morales, and one of his AMFAST officers, Félix Ismael “El Gato” Rodríguez Mendigutia (cryptonym "AMJOKE-1"), activated one of his old buddies from his US Army Counterintelligence Corps/Gehlen Org days:

SS-Hauptsturmführer Nikolaus "Klaus" Barbie (Gehlen Org cryptonym "ADLER"), the mass-murdering commander of the Gestapo in Lyon, France.

Before Barbie was CIA, he was US Army Counterintelligence Corps, just like Morales.

 

You see, I find it hard to separate the phenomenon of image.jpeg intelligence in CIA and anti-Castro Cubans at JMWAVE from the murder of JFK, when the overlap so seamlessly with someone like David Sánchez Morales.   

I happily stand advised and enlightened by your posts RM, all of which continue to impress---no, amaze---me. 

I am standing here, hats off. 

I certainly do not rule out a Teutonic connection to the JFKA. 

Your report on Klaus Barbie to too depressing to even contemplate. I never knew that The Butcher of Lyon was on US payrolls. 

I will admit to a pet theory, and please treat me gently on this:

Eladio Del Valle and Hermininio Diaz traveled to Dallas, and were introduced to LHO, likely by a higher-up (or given a code word or half of dollar bill). The pair piggy-backed on an existing false flag op, planned as a missed assassination attempt on JFK, but to be blamed on Castro. They shot for real. 

Thus, the Walker shooting was prequel planned miss, to test LHO's resolve in shooting at but missing a well-known public figure. LHO passed the test. 

I tend to favor JFKA conspiracies with very few witting participants, as in three or less. Complicity was rife afterwards. 

My pet theory does not rule out that the higher-up, who linked LHO to the pair of Cubans, was someone with Teutonic connections inside the CIA or other intel agency. 

Well, that is my pet theory.

You can (put on your kid gloves and) reply. :)

 

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3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

I happily stand advised and enlightened by your posts RM, all of which continue to impress---no, amaze---me. 

I am standing here, hats off. 

I certainly do not rule out a Teutonic connection to the JFKA. 

Your report on Klaus Barbie to too depressing to even contemplate. I never knew that The Butcher of Lyon was on US payrolls. 

I will admit to a pet theory, and please treat me gently on this:

Eladio Del Valle and Hermininio Diaz traveled to Dallas, and were introduced to LHO, likely by a higher-up (or given a code word or half of dollar bill). The pair piggy-backed on an existing false flag op, planned as a missed assassination attempt on JFK, but to be blamed on Castro. They shot for real. 

Thus, the Walker shooting was prequel planned miss, to test LHO's resolve in shooting at but missing a well-known public figure. LHO passed the test. 

I tend to favor JFKA conspiracies with very few witting participants, as in three or less. Complicity was rife afterwards. 

My pet theory does not rule out that the higher-up, who linked LHO to the pair of Cubans, was someone with Teutonic connections inside the CIA or other intel agency. 

Well, that is my pet theory.

You can (put on your kid gloves and) reply. :)

 

 

Once again, I would stress, this is post about a WIROGUE-1 bio, that has been sidelined by the titans of the research community.

But since you asked, a few personal, highly-simplified thoughts:

Mr. Oswald was acting in the capacity of a COINTELPRO informant, infiltrating both left and right-wing organizations that were considered counter to the United States government.

The right-wing organizations were involved in violations of the Neutrality Acts of the 1930s (primarily right-wing organizations that were involved in gunrunning, narcoterrorism, and illegal hit-and-run raids against Cuba), which explains Mr. Oswald's reporting to James Patrick Hosty Jr., who was literally tasked by FBI HQ to run long-range, studies and observations against right-wing organizations.

Some of these right-wing organizations that Mr. Oswald infiltrated and reported on were being sponsored by Mafia and CIA elements at JMWAVE (like Legión Extranjera Anticomunista del Caribe, Cuban Revolutionary CouncilCuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, Friends of Democratic Cuba, Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, etc.).  

Somewhere along the line, in his capacity infiltrating leftist organizations (like Congress of Racial Equality, Fair Play for Cuba Committee, New Orleans Committee for Peaceful Alternative, Dallas G.I. Forum, etc.), fascist paramilitary types (my money goes with a clique that included Sergio Arcacha-Smith, John Wilson-Hudson, COL. Samuel Goodhue Kail, LCDR Harold 'Hal' FeeneyCOL. Orlando Eleno Piedra Negueruela, David “El Indio” Sánchez MoralesCOL. Charles A. Waters Jr., William Wayne Dalzell, & William Guy Banister), piggy-backed Mr. Oswald's legitimate function as an informant to an element the intelligence community—to being a patsy for the shooter teams in Dallas—by utilizing Mr. Oswald's infiltration of left-wing organizations for a completely different, uninitiated element of the intelligence community, as a counter-narrative stratagem (in all likelihood, that element of the intelligence community that was receiving Mr. Oswald's agent provocateur reports, was a domestic military intelligence command structure called "4th US Army Operations Group, Region II Command," and the unit that housed those documents was the "112th Military Intelligence Group").

In that shanghaiing of a real Cold War domestic provocateur, which is what Mr. Oswald was from his days in the United States Marine Corps, I have to stress that I believe the Maj. Gen. Edwin Anderson Walker shooting physically had nothing to do with Mr. Oswald.   

Remember, the story that Mr. Oswald fired upon Gen. Walker, was fed to him from feelers working for a neo-fascist newspaper called "Deutsche National-Zeitung und Soldaten-Zeitung."

In short, the shooting of Maj. Gen. Walker—never actually happened.

It was a false-flag narrative.

And you gotta love that narrative, Mr. Oswald misses a stationary Maj. Gen. Walker from less than thirty feet, but scores fatal wounds on President Kennedy (from the high-rear, low-front, and parallel-oblique, no less), who was moving upwards of five to ten miles an hour, from two-hundred fifty feet away?!

Pure phantasy. 

As for Eladio Ceferino del Valle Gutierrez “Yito” and Sandalio Herminio Díaz García, well, in the spirit of all of this speculation on my part, I think they were members of a fireteam that was acting in support of four other two man shooter teams—that is to say, five, two man shooter teams, one primary shooter and a back-up, firing from overlapping fields of fire. 

My own personal, unverified theory goes something like this:

 

  • Robert Emmett Johnson (security advisor, Servicio de Inteligencia Militar, Dominican Republic/ special agent, International Services of Information Foundation, Inc./ Intercontinental Penetration Force) --- Hollowed-out trunk of station wagon (across the street from the grassy knoll; parked backwards on the left side of road) --- (“Remington XP-100” rifle w/ “.221 Remington Fireball” ammo).

 

  • COL. Charles “Boots” Askins Jr. [US Military Attaché, Madrid, Spain/ Special Agent, US Border Patrol/ CIA Counter Intelligence Staff, Police Group (CI/PG)—International Cooperation Administration—Office of Public Safety, Saigon] --- Manhole/ Grassy Knoll Shooter --- (modified “ArmaLite AR-10 Project SALVO Special Purpose Individual Weapon” carbine-electromagnetic dart launcher w/ “poison-filled epoxy-tipped ice flechette” ammo).

 

  • Frank Angelo Fiorini AKA Frank Anthony Sturgis (Operación 40 assassin/ Chicago Junta) --- School Book Depository Shooter --- (modified “Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 Type G” automatic rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

 

  • Capt. Jean-René Marie Souètre (Organisation de l'Armée Secrète commander) --- Grassy Knoll Shooter --- (“De Lisle Commando” carbine paratrooper stock w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

 

  • Sandalio Herminio Díaz García (Operación 40 assassin/ bodyguard for Santo Trafficante Jr.) --- School Book Depository Shooter --- (modified “M1” carbine rechambered to “9mm” ammo).

 

  • COL. Joseph Young "Cactus Jack" Canon (Katō Kikan commander/ Canon Kikan AKA "Z-Unit"/ commander, Field Operations Intelligence/ commander, "Kontrgerilla" Turkish stay-behind units) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“FAL 50.63 PARA 2” battle rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

 

  • Loran Eugene Hall Sr. (International Anti-Communist Brigade/ American Committee To Free Cuba/ Minutemen) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“ArmaLite AR-15 Model 01” assault rifle w/ .223 ammo).

 

  • Nestor Antonio “Tony” Izquierdo (Office of Naval Intelligence asset/ Operation PATTY commando) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“HK G3A3” 1963 bipod version battle rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

 

  • Maj. Lauri Allan Törni (Finnisches Freiwilligen-Bataillon der Waffen-SS/ commander, Detachment Törni/ Military Assistance Advisory Group, Iran/ US Army, 6th Special Forces Group, CONUS) --- Storm Drain Shooter --- (suppressed, OSS-model “M3 Greaser” submachine gun w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

 

  • Maj. Gen. Mitchell Livingston WerBell III “AMBOAR” (Office of Strategic Services, Detachment 101/ founder, Studies In the Operational Negation of Insurgents and Counter-Subversion/ contractor, CIA Technical Services Division) --- Grassy Knoll Shooter (adjacent & above storm drain) --- (suppressed, first-generation experimental “Military Armament Corporation Model 10” machine pistol w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

 

I will stress once again, the above information is a personal musing, and has nothing to do with the purpose of this post, which was examining the CIA biography of WIROGUE-1. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

JB-

Your commentary towards another EF-JFKA participant is hardly collegial. Can you adjust your tone and language? 

Perhaps if you have something you take issue in RM's work, then, in the most friendly way possible, can you send a DM to Robert without accusatory overtones?  

Someone doing primary docs research should be appreciated. 

I sure am learning a lot from RM. 

It would be my loss if RM should decide there is just too much pettiness in the EF-JFKA, and he moves on. 

Please treat RM, and all other EF-JFKA participants, with respect.

It won't hurt you, and will help others. 

It never hurts to put on the most civil and friendly posture possible, in the EF-JFKA. 

Try it for a few weeks. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

 

Joe,

Please lay off of Robert.

It's not a big deal if some other researcher first discovered what Robert did. What's important is that we have people like him looking. And it's important the we have a messenger for things that are found. My hats off to him as it is to every serious researcher.

Robert, keep up the good work. My congratulations on another good find!

 

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5 hours ago, Robert Montenegro said:

 

Once again, I would stress, this is post about a WIROGUE-1 bio, that has been sidelined by the titans of the research community.

But since you asked, a few personal, highly-simplified thoughts:

Mr. Oswald was acting in the capacity of a COINTELPRO informant, infiltrating both left and right-wing organizations that were considered counter to the United States government.

The right-wing organizations were involved in violations of the Neutrality Acts of the 1930s (primarily right-wing organizations that were involved in gunrunning, narcoterrorism, and illegal hit-and-run raids against Cuba), which explains Mr. Oswald's reporting to James Patrick Hosty Jr., who was literally tasked by FBI HQ to run long-range, studies and observations against right-wing organizations.

Some of these right-wing organizations that Mr. Oswald infiltrated and reported on were being sponsored by Mafia and CIA elements at JMWAVE (like Legión Extranjera Anticomunista del Caribe, Cuban Revolutionary CouncilCuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, Friends of Democratic Cuba, Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, etc.).  

Somewhere along the line, in his capacity infiltrating leftist organizations (like Congress of Racial Equality, Fair Play for Cuba Committee, New Orleans Committee for Peaceful Alternative, Dallas G.I. Forum, etc.), fascist paramilitary types (my money goes with a clique that included Sergio Arcacha-Smith, John Wilson-Hudson, COL. Samuel Goodhue Kail, LCDR Harold 'Hal' FeeneyCOL. Orlando Eleno Piedra Negueruela, David “El Indio” Sánchez MoralesCOL. Charles A. Waters Jr., William Wayne Dalzell, & William Guy Banister), piggy-backed Mr. Oswald's legitimate function as an informant to an element the intelligence community—to being a patsy for the shooter teams in Dallas—by utilizing Mr. Oswald's infiltration of left-wing organizations for a completely different, uninitiated element of the intelligence community, as a counter-narrative stratagem (in all likelihood, that element of the intelligence community that was receiving Mr. Oswald's agent provocateur reports, was a domestic military intelligence command structure called "4th US Army Operations Group, Region II Command," and the unit that housed those documents was the "112th Military Intelligence Group").

In that shanghaiing of a real Cold War domestic provocateur, which is what Mr. Oswald was from his days in the United States Marine Corps, I have to stress that I believe the Maj. Gen. Edwin Anderson Walker shooting physically had nothing to do with Mr. Oswald.   

Remember, the story that Mr. Oswald fired upon Gen. Walker, was fed to him from feelers working for a neo-fascist newspaper called "Deutsche National-Zeitung und Soldaten-Zeitung."

In short, the shooting of Maj. Gen. Walker—never actually happened.

It was a false-flag narrative.

And you gotta love that narrative, Mr. Oswald misses a stationary Maj. Gen. Walker from less than thirty feet, but scores fatal wounds on President Kennedy (from the high-rear, low-front, and parallel-oblique, no less), who was moving upwards of five to ten miles an hour, from two-hundred fifty feet away?!

Pure phantasy. 

As for Eladio Ceferino del Valle Gutierrez “Yito” and Sandalio Herminio Díaz García, well, in the spirit of all of this speculation on my part, I think they were members of a fireteam that was acting in support of four other two man shooter teams—that is to say, five, two man shooter teams, one primary shooter and a back-up, firing from overlapping fields of fire. 

My own personal, unverified theory goes something like this:

 

  • Robert Emmett Johnson (security advisor, Servicio de Inteligencia Militar, Dominican Republic/ special agent, International Services of Information Foundation, Inc./ Intercontinental Penetration Force) --- Hollowed-out trunk of station wagon (across the street from the grassy knoll; parked backwards on the left side of road) --- (“Remington XP-100” rifle w/ “.221 Remington Fireball” ammo).

 

  • COL. Charles “Boots” Askins Jr. [US Military Attaché, Madrid, Spain/ Special Agent, US Border Patrol/ CIA Counter Intelligence Staff, Police Group (CI/PG)—International Cooperation Administration—Office of Public Safety, Saigon] --- Manhole/ Grassy Knoll Shooter --- (modified “ArmaLite AR-10 Project SALVO Special Purpose Individual Weapon” carbine-electromagnetic dart launcher w/ “poison-filled epoxy-tipped ice flechette” ammo).

 

  • Frank Angelo Fiorini AKA Frank Anthony Sturgis (Operación 40 assassin/ Chicago Junta) --- School Book Depository Shooter --- (modified “Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 Type G” automatic rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

 

  • Capt. Jean-René Marie Souètre (Organisation de l'Armée Secrète commander) --- Grassy Knoll Shooter --- (“De Lisle Commando” carbine paratrooper stock w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

 

  • Sandalio Herminio Díaz García (Operación 40 assassin/ bodyguard for Santo Trafficante Jr.) --- School Book Depository Shooter --- (modified “M1” carbine rechambered to “9mm” ammo).

 

  • COL. Joseph Young "Cactus Jack" Canon (Katō Kikan commander/ Canon Kikan AKA "Z-Unit"/ commander, Field Operations Intelligence/ commander, "Kontrgerilla" Turkish stay-behind units) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“FAL 50.63 PARA 2” battle rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

 

  • Loran Eugene Hall Sr. (International Anti-Communist Brigade/ American Committee To Free Cuba/ Minutemen) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“ArmaLite AR-15 Model 01” assault rifle w/ .223 ammo).

 

  • Nestor Antonio “Tony” Izquierdo (Office of Naval Intelligence asset/ Operation PATTY commando) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“HK G3A3” 1963 bipod version battle rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

 

  • Maj. Lauri Allan Törni (Finnisches Freiwilligen-Bataillon der Waffen-SS/ commander, Detachment Törni/ Military Assistance Advisory Group, Iran/ US Army, 6th Special Forces Group, CONUS) --- Storm Drain Shooter --- (suppressed, OSS-model “M3 Greaser” submachine gun w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

 

  • Maj. Gen. Mitchell Livingston WerBell III “AMBOAR” (Office of Strategic Services, Detachment 101/ founder, Studies In the Operational Negation of Insurgents and Counter-Subversion/ contractor, CIA Technical Services Division) --- Grassy Knoll Shooter (adjacent & above storm drain) --- (suppressed, first-generation experimental “Military Armament Corporation Model 10” machine pistol w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

 

I will stress once again, the above information is a personal musing, and has nothing to do with the purpose of this post, which was examining the CIA biography of WIROGUE-1. 

 

 

Thanks for the biography on WIROGUE-1. 

And for your fascinating version of the JFKA. 

I look forward to further posts from you. 

Stay cool. I think the kinks are being worked out of the EF-JFKA. 

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11 hours ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

On a personal note I want to say that I appreciate your own document contributions to the Forum. There are many others too who contribute in that way, and I admit I am not among that august group of intrepid document researchers. It’s difficult time consuming work. The best possible outcome is for researchers to seek to complement the work of others, to refine the careful reading of documents, no easy task. 

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In support of RM’s revelatory research, and his rage at the implications,we as a community are entering into the grief process again and it hurts. JFK is dead we know that, but how, why and by whom? If Albarelli and Co are on the right track, many myself included are in a state almost of denial, RM is justifiably enraged, as was John Loftus, Peter Levenda, before him and Mae Brussell early on. And Phillip K Dick too.
But Kennedy? 
What sort of world do we live in, have we been dreaming, that the good guys won way back then?

 

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1 hour ago, David McLean said:

In support of RM’s revelatory research, and his rage at the implications,we as a community are entering into the grief process again and it hurts. JFK is dead we know that, but how, why and by whom? If Albarelli and Co are on the right track, many myself included are in a state almost of denial, RM is justifiably enraged, as was John Loftus, Peter Levenda, before him and Mae Brussell early on. And Phillip K Dick too.
But Kennedy? 
What sort of world do we live in, have we been dreaming, that the good guys won way back then?

 

Philip K Dick - love his books, but remind me - are you referring to The Man in the High Castle? Levenda’s books are unique contributions - I’ve read several, and wonder where he’s hiding out these days? Wish he would rejoin. I’m reading Loftus now - The Secret War against the Jews. The info in it about Kim Philby’s father, about Dulles and the US corporations he and his brother represented and their connections - really fascinating. And I have to wonder like you whether we are all sleepwalking through history. 

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@Paul Brancato Peter L. is alive and well; he follows my Facebook posts related to Coup in Dallas, having written the Introduction to A Terrible Mistake, Hank Albarelli's exposé on the murder of CIA scientist Frank Olson, an investigation that led him to Pierre Lafitte and his 1963 datebook among other records.  

Hank was a long time fan of Levenda who eventually spent time with him in Florida where they developed a mutual admiration society.  Peter has been very supportive of Coup, recognizing the overarching themes. 

@David McLean @Paul Brancato I recommend Yeadon and Hawkins' Nazi Hydra in America. The book deserves a revival of interest in these times.

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