The Mystery of Kennedy's Brain Deepens

[Mervyn Hagger]

12 hours ago, Michael Crane said:

Just curious Mervyn,

Do you believe that any of the wounds were enlarged or bullets taken out of JFK before the official autopsy?

A single bullet to the back of the head caused this much damage?

That dog won't hunt.

Why are you asking me this question? This is not my area of speciality. Is it your own?

[Michael Crane]

9 hours ago, Mervyn Hagger said:

Why are you asking me this question? This is not my area of speciality. Is it your own?

I actually don't have a specialty area.

You said that we were way off.So,I wanted your opinion on something.

Over & over,I have asked for opinions on here & all I get is a tumble weed. 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2023 by Michael Crane

[Mervyn Hagger]

33 minutes ago, Michael Crane said:

I actually don't have a specialty area.

You said that we were way off.So,I wanted your opinion on something.

Over & over,I have asked for opinions on here & all I get is a tumble weed. 

 

 

If your response is that you have no specialised knowledge about the specialised topic you are commenting upon, and since all you can post is a gif, I need to place you on my ignore list.

[Michael Crane]

You're killing me Smalls.

 

[Michael Crane]

On 8/29/2023 at 4:23 PM, Joe Bauer said:

18:35 pm is military time, which is 6:35 PM standard time...correct?

 

James Jenkins stated in the first interview video with David Mantik that he never witnessed a saw being used on JFK and he was with the body the entire time.

But that he did see a saw mark running longitudinal along the back top of the skull.

Perhaps indicating that someone else made that saw cut before Humes work?

 

I really want to believe Jenkins.Hopefully the man has not passed away.He could answer some awful important questions & at this point,he would be willing to do so.

I sincerely hope that he was using the restroom or possibly on a lunch break away from the autopsy table when the saw came out.

Humes did say that very little saw cutting was needed.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Michael Crane

[Joe Bauer]

2 hours ago, Michael Crane said:

I really want to believe Jenkins.Hopefully the man has not passed away.He could answer some awful important questions & at this point,he would be willing to do so.

I sincerely hope that he was using the restroom or possibly on a lunch break away from the autopsy table when the saw came out.

Humes did say that very little saw cutting was needed.

I really could not see Humes doing whatever saw work he needed to do on JFK's skull and finishing it in just the time it took Jenkins to take a pee.

And Jenkins mentioned only one food break. He was given a sandwich that contained a meat that Jenkins didn't like. So, he threw it in the trash and simply came back into the autopsy room.

Even as old as Jenkins was in these later life interviews, I would think he would remember see Humes doing any saw work on JFK.

[Pat Speer]

1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said:

I really could not see Humes doing whatever saw work he needed to do on JFK's skull and finishing it in just the time it took Jenkins to take a pee.

And Jenkins mentioned only one food break. He was given a sandwich that contained a meat that Jenkins didn't like. So, he threw it in the trash and simply came back into the autopsy room.

Even as old as Jenkins was in these later life interviews, I would think he would remember see Humes doing any saw work on JFK.

FWIW, I saw Jenkins speak at a couple of conferences, and spoke to him in person on two occasions. He was consistent from day one that NO body alteration occurred prior to the start of the autopsy. He was clear that this did not happen, and when I offered that maybe it had been done in another room he corrected me and pointed out that there was no other room in which it could have occurred. He said the ONLY way it could have occurred was if it occurred prior to the body's arrival at Bethesda, and by someone other than Humes. Well, this sinks Horne's boat. 

I was surprised for that matter when Horne wrote an article making out that Jenkins' statements supported that the back of the head was blown out and that Humes performed surgery to the head before the beginning of the autopsy. This was bizarre. Jenkins had told myself and others, including the source for Horne's article, the exact opposite of what Horne claimed he'd said. .  

[Michael Crane]

Damn Pat,

You had an opportunity to speak with Jim.I would have been like a kid in a candy store.I would get that same feeling with other autopsy attendees & researchers such as yourself.

I really want to know because,I don't keep anything saved about JFK.I just go back and find old threads on forums that I have posted on or seen.

The casket entries...

6:35  Dennis David's men/Men in suits

7:17    Sibert & O'Neil

8:00    The Honor Guard

No way does JFK's body come out and placed on the table at those 3 times?

I think I have the answer,but JFK's bronze casket getting back into the gray ambulance for the Honor Guard escapes me.Must of been during the ambulance chase that Hubie Clark talks about?

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

Edited September 2, 2023 by Michael Crane

[Micah Mileto]

1 hour ago, Michael Crane said:

 

https://archive.org/details/best-evidence-disguise-and-deception-in-the-assassination-of-john-f.-kennedy-by-

 

Lifton also since changed his opinion on how the exchange went at Bethesda.

 

In 1988 he was also on A Current Affair giving a different opinion about the exchange https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnB6wbe55k

 

And in 1990 there was the Best Evidence research video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAWFvcrp-ao

 

And of course there are those 2012 interviews where were posted. Maybe he even changed his opinion since 2012.

[Sandy Larsen]

3 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

I was surprised for that matter when Horne wrote an article making out that Jenkins' statements supported that the back of the head was blown out and that Humes performed surgery to the head before the beginning of the autopsy. This was bizarre. Jenkins had told myself and others, including the source for Horne's article, the exact opposite of what Horne claimed he'd said.

 

Again, I'd like to hear Horne's side.

 

[Michael Crane]

Thanks Micah,I will take a look.I myself have changed my opinion on the assassination more than a few times.The biggest was who the killers were.At first,I thought it was the mafia and the mafia's Carlos Marcello after reading Mafia Kingfish.

Edited September 2, 2023 by Michael Crane

[Pat Speer]

2 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Again, I'd like to hear Horne's side.

 

To be clear, I don't think Horne was pulling a con. Just desperately flailing. He was not in attendance at the conference, nor at the break-away session with 20 or so of us in a room. His source was Mantik. As I recall, Jenkins said he wasn't sure the photos were legit, and Mantik told this to Horne, who turned around and rushed out an article/blog post claiming Jenkins's statements supported his own theories. 

Well, this was nonsense seeing as Jenkins had specified that the back of the head was not blown out and that the body was not altered at Bethesda. 

[Joe Bauer]

On 8/23/2023 at 6:01 PM, Vince Palamara said:

My chapter on James Mastrovito from my third book THE NOT-SO-SECRET SERVICE:

 

 

Lazily, I skipped reading the pages you listed above from your book Vince.

Just read them now.

MIND BLOWING!

Mastrovito stated with great indignation how "shameful" it was for fellow SS men to profit from publicly sharing SS inside information ( books and personal appearances ) regards the JFKA and their personal involvement and or opinions regards any of their official SS duties related to it.

Yet Clint Hill and Gerald Blaine hypocritically get a pass from these shameful actions charges?

Mastrovito possessed a "prescription medicine" sized bottle containing a part of JFK's brain? He held onto it for years? And Mastrovito just decides to destroy the bottle and brain matter of and by his very own volition? No running this incredibly important historical item destruction action by anyone above him?

Reminds one of FBI SA James Hosty destroying his office's Lee Harvey Oswald file upon orders from his boss Gordon Shanklin the day Oswald was whacked by Jack Ruby...and keeping this massively important, investigation shaking evidence destruction action from the Warren Commission with the chuckling explanation that he did so because..."they didn't ask." !!!

Laughingly admitting he knowingly violated his sworn oath to the WC to tell them ...'The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth...so help me God."

Choosing instead to place and protect his own agency, his own position and his own retirement pension above any higher cause JFKA truth investigation mission obligation to the American people.

One thing seems clear after decades of revelatory JFKA related research finding discoveries.

That JFK and RFK really did not know the true extent of power, control and influence our non-elected government agencies had acquired by 11,22,1963.

Obviously, beyond anything they thought they knew.

Oh, and Vince...it seems probable that your personal phone lines were tapped and for years.

Seems the most logical explanation as to why several witnesses you uncovered in your research who at first told you they would provide you with much more information regards any number of mind blowing personal evidence info ... and then completely and immediately cutting you off.

My guess anyways.

 

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by Joe Bauer

[Joe Bauer]

21 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

I really could not see Humes doing whatever saw work he needed to do on JFK's skull and finishing it in just the time it took Jenkins to take a pee.

And Jenkins mentioned only one food break. He was given a sandwich that contained a meat that Jenkins didn't like. So, he threw it in the trash and simply came back into the autopsy room.

Even as old as Jenkins was in these later life interviews, I would think he would remember seeing Humes doing any saw work on JFK.

In the first linked group interview video with David Mantik Jenkins quotes Humes as saying "the damn thing just fell into my hands" upon Humes holding the supposed brain of JFK in front of Jenkins.

Edited September 2, 2023 by Joe Bauer

[Joe Bauer]

On 8/30/2023 at 1:25 PM, Michael Crane said:

 

 

How could Humes do "any" saw work on that mess?

Edited September 2, 2023 by Joe Bauer