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This photograph of Lansdale walking among the hit team says one thousand words.

1. The Tramps - Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams, and John Gedney know Lansdale.  How did Lansdale recruit them? Where they Mercenaries?

2. Lansdale knows the Tramps.

3. Lansdale gets alerted by monitoring the DPD radio that the tramps were arrested after the Rail Yard intendant notified the police he saw three people running and entering a train car.

4. There must have been a command center where Lansdale was monitoring the assassination.  Where?  What building?  From a car?

When somebody decides to investigate the Tramps in-depth, we will know this aspect of the assassination.

What else does the picture of the Tramps with Lansdale say?

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16 hours ago, Keyvan Shahrdar said:

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This photograph of Lansdale walking among the hit team says one thousand words.

1. The Tramps - Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams, and John Gedney know Lansdale.  How did Lansdale recruit them? Where they Mercenaries?

2. Lansdale knows the Tramps.

3. Lansdale gets alerted by monitoring the DPD radio that the tramps were arrested after the Rail Yard intendant notified the police he saw three people running and entering a train car.

4. There must have been a command center where Lansdale was monitoring the assassination.  Where?  What building?  From a car?

When somebody decides to investigate the Tramps in-depth, we will know this aspect of the assassination.

What else does the picture of the Tramps with Lansdale say?

Marvin L. Wise, born July 20th 1934, deceased November 4th 2018.

He joined the United States Army in 1956 at the age of 22 and was active duty until 1958. Wise stayed in the Army Reserves for three years. He joined the Dallas Police Department in 1959. from https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/dallas-tx/marvin-wise-8044569

Marvin Wise's interview with the HSCA in 1977.

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1. Wise stated he knew Jack Ruby, Wise and his wife attended Ruby's Vegas club. Wise knew Jack Ruby before he was a DPD officer. (so at least more than 4 years, Wise joined DPD in 59)
2. Wise is assigned to #71 district for that day. His regular partner, AR Brock, was assigned to #69 district (would be interesting to know AR Brocks views of the day)
3. Wise heard over radio there'd been a shooting involving ''The Man'' (presumably POTUS at around 12:30)
4. Wise gets call to attend TSBD for emergency and report to supervisor
5. Wise parks his patrol car near the railroad tracks at the side of the TSBD
6  Wise heard about the Tippit shooting over the radio (1:15pm)
7  Wise saw an employee in the railroad building (presumably Lee Bowers) waving at him to come over
8  Wise is told by Bowers that three men got into a boxcar four to five hundred yards down the track
9  Wise says: Bill Bass, Roy E Vaughn, and officer Middleton went to the boxcars and removed the tramps
10 Wise is photographed with Bill Bass escorting the 'three tramps' through dealey plaza
11 Wise was assigned to the Dallas police basement on the 24th where Jack Ruby shoots Oswald
12 Wise 'sent' to Parkland hospital to 'guard' the operating room containing a dying Oswald
13 Wise states that in the photograph showing him leading the three tramps he had a bad ear infection and had cotton wool in it. That it may have come loose
14 Wise gives the name/address of his doctor at the time who is also currently his doctor (presumably claiming the Dr can vouch for the ear infection)
15 Wise gives an explanation as to why he isn't wearing DPD issued shoes

Wise & Roy Vaughn (later Sherrif Vaughn) also a confessed to being a 'friend' of Jack Ruby. Both DPD officers are

1, involved in the arrest of the three tramps, Wise escorts them through dealey plaza.

2, both are suspected of enabling Ruby shooting of Oswald in the basement.

3, Wise is given the job of 'guarding' the operating room at Parkland that Oswald dies in. Suspicious? just ever so slightly!

Below, Wise communication to Jesse Curry as to his actions on Sunday the 24th.

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below, Wise having to deny seeing Jack Ruby during his time in the basement, dated Nov 29th 

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Wise seems to have been in hot water from the beginning.

Marvin Wise had an earpiece on during the three tramps episode. It certainly isn't cotton wool!

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I've done a little bit of asking around and apparently Dallas Police officers were not issued with such equipment in 1963.

Not even the secret service had this level of communication at the time of the assassination. Vince Palamara says SS were issued such earpieces in the early 70s. 

Jim Garrison's investigation firstly spotted something in Wise's ear, hence the later HSCA questioning of his earpiece. I guess without the level of enhancement of photographs that we have they could not define for sure what Wise was wearing? 

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Wise's named doctor was listed in the 1969 Directory, Aviation Medical Examiners https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=26nsmXabJNcC&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=kendall+moore,+327-4584&source=bl&ots=I8ydLRUyqb&sig=ACfU3U3COiXaLDORH1_DQKbg7INChLmdwg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0g7Gs8suEAxVHUkEAHWcgAScQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q=kendall moore%2C 327-4584&f=false

The taller tramp has something tucked down his leg. Possibly a walkie talkie, could be a bottle of booze. They were supposedly thoroughly searched by Wise and co when arrested.

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Wise and Vaughn both said that William Middleton was one of the arresting officers, Middleton denied being on duty on the day of the assassination, below

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The more publicized DPD cop, Roy Vaughn, who, like Marvin Wise, was also a suspect in allowing Ruby to gain access to the basement. Vaughn being subjected to lie detecting tests!

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Both Wise and Vaughn said they knew Ruby since 1959

There's an interesting page on the Mary Ferrell Foundation website https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=9745

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"Mary's Comments: Dallas Police Department officer. On 11/22/63, he was assigned to a two-man unit with his partner, Gillis W. TEMPLE. Vaughn and Marvin Wise were the two police officers who climbed into the gondola coal car on 11/22/63 and apprehended the three tramps. He allowed Jack Ruby to enter Main Street ramp to Dallas Police Building's basement on 11/24/63. (Vaughn is probably the officer who apprehended Jim Braden in the Dal-Tex Bldg. see: 89A-DL-60165-46 (MMF 2459-2460). Vaughn passed polygraph test re helping Jack Ruby into basement (see MMF 2535).''

Anyone know any more about Vaughn apprehending Braden in the dal-tex?


Marvin Wise is the gatekeeper to the legitimacy the three tramps photographs are named Doyle, Gedney, Abrams. He is the officer that claims to have written down their names and lost the piece of paper with them on. And then seeing the 1992 Current Affairs piece of the three tramps was able to regain his memory of the tramps names. At the same time Wise is also the destroyer of the the three tramps photographed with him were ever detained.

It's there, the truth, in black and white in the 3/6/92 FBI interview with Wise. 

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''Wise walked across the street to where his car was parked, again, in front of the book depository. Approximately five to ten minutes later Wise returned to Sheriff Decker's office in order to determine whether or not the three hobos had been incarcerated. If in fact the three were jailed, Wise would be able to take credit for it. Wise was told by a deputy that the three had been released.

Though Wise was just across the street from the entrance to the jail, he never saw the tramps exiting. Wise indicated it was possible it was possible they had been released through the main street exit, but noted this would be unusual."

 

from below 

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Just 10 minutes after dropping the three tramps off at 'Decker's' they were gone! Not even questioned! let alone jailed.

So how does this square with the so-called arrest sheets and what Harold Doyle said himself?

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Doyle says they were detained for two or three nights and released.

The bogus arrest sheets says the same. Near enough! below

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Release date given as 26/11/63. And and completely bogus arrest sheet anyway. No finger prints, no arrest number, accused stated as being arrested right after JFK shot.

"These men were seen getting on a boxcar in a train right after Kennedy was shot. These men are all passing through, they have no jobs..." from Doyle's arrest sheet


Sheriff (in 93) Roy Vaughn was contacted on November 22, 1993. Buck Revell's story was circulating at this time to the effect that Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams and John Gedney were the tramps who had been photographed being marched through Dealey Plaza. Roy Vaughn: below

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"I can't tell you if these guys were Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams and John Gedney. I don't know. A railroad man came down when I arrived on the scene. It was after lunch. 1:00 p.m., 2:00 p.m., 2:30 p.m., sometimes afterward. We were dispatched there. I was assigned to patrol in the South Dallas area. The dispatcher told us to report to that location - code three. And that's when I went. I was not there until sometime after the shooting occurred. This particular incident I am talking about was not immediately after the shooting, no. I was in between the Texas School Book Depository and what used to be a saw factory. And I did detain a man, a security guard brought him down. He had found that individual on the upper floors of the building. I took that man to the Dallas County Sheriff's Office that was directly across the street. Me and several others officers were involved in getting the people out of the open type car. If there was any arrests prior to these, I don't know. I can't say...I don't remember if they smelled. That was 30 years ago today. I was always under the impression there was no paperwork for 29 years then I heard about the arrest records [of Harold Doyle, John Gedney and Gus Abram]."

Above from From A.J Weberman's Coup D'etat in America

Did Vaughn arrest/apprehend Jim Braden in Daltex?

 

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5 hours ago, Robert Reeves said:

 7  Wise saw an employee in the railroad building (presumably Lee Bowers) waving at him to come over
8  Wise is told by Bowers that three men got into a boxcar four to five hundred yards down the track
9  Wise says: Bill Bass, Roy E Vaughn, and officer Middleton went to the boxcars and removed the tramps

I wonder if the three tramps got into the boxcar before or after the assassination?

I thought I heard in one account by officer Vaughan that it was around an hour or more after the assassination that the three tramps were found. The quietness in the streets as per the above photos would appear to suggest they were apprehended a good bit of time after the assassination for the streets to clear of people.

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18 hours ago, Gerry Down said:

I wonder if the three tramps got into the boxcar before or after the assassination?

I thought I heard in one account by officer Vaughan that it was around an hour or more after the assassination that the three tramps were found. The quietness in the streets as per the above photos would appear to suggest they were apprehended a good bit of time after the assassination for the streets to clear of people.

The streets were certainly calmer when the photographed tramps were detained.

I think AJ Weberman was first to spot there were two sets of tramps that are documented, in the pictures, and in print via arrest sheets. He definitely spotted a group of cops leading one, two, or three people through dealey plaza very early on. It has to be not long after JFK was shot. The water pools area opposite the TSBD, N. Houston is full of people, at this point. below from Mentesana film

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The full clip is below. 

The scene above fits perfectly with Harold Doyle's description of him being escorted through dealey plaza past a crowd baying for blood.

transcribed from the 25/02/92 interview with Current Affair: Harold Doyle said ...

". . . Before we went to the railroad yard, sirens and everything was going on and all, and we asked somebody what happened and they said the President been shot. Then all at once someone said, 'Don't make a move.' We looked up the end we were sitting in and the far end down the side we were surrounded by policemen with guns drawn and they said, 'Don't make a move.'" The three were pulled out of the boxcar. Doyle remembers that the police ". . . took us through the park [Dealey Plaza]. All the people was going on and the sirens was going and people was taking pictures of us coming over this a way. Hell, there was all photographers, people hollering, 'Are they the one that done it? Are they the one that done it?'"

From Doyle's arrest sheet: "These men were seen getting on a boxcar in a train right after Kennedy was shot. These men are all passing through, they have no jobs..."

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Lee Bowers recalled: "Since there was the possibility that someone could have...climbed aboard this freight primarily... I stopped the train and gave them a chance to examine it and to be sure that there was no one on it. As a matter of fact, there were three people on it who appeared to be winos, and perhaps were the most frightened winos I had ever seen in my life, since there were possibly 50 policemen with shotguns and Tommy guns and various other weapons shaking them out of these boxcars."
 

From the Allen photographs known to be taken around 1pm. The Dallas police and fire brigade are roping off the plaza. Preventing the crowds from gathering around the pools and TSBD.

southeast corner of Elm and Houston streets at approximately 1 p.m. below

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There are no such large crowds of people when the famously photographed tramps were escorted through the plaza. Certainly no large crowds in the pool area of N. Houston. Compare the two scenarios.

Doyle's description of being taken from the railyard through the plaza 

"the police ". . . took us through the park [Dealey Plaza]. All the people was going on and the sirens was going and people was taking pictures of us coming over this a way. Hell, there was all photographers, people hollering, 'Are they the one that done it? Are they the one that done it?'" 

Does it fit the scenario below?

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Or does the photograph below best fit Doyle's noisy crowd scenario, sirens going off, people hollering, "Are they the one that done it? Are they the one that done it?"

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These three tramps are the ones I believe Lee Bowers spotted climbing onto the train as it was leaving the railyard. This happened later on in the afternoon - and not ''right after JFK was shot'' which it states on Doyle, Gedney, and Abrams arrest sheet's.

From AJ Weberman's - Coup d'Etat in America

"Sheriff Roy Vaughn was contacted on November 22, 1993. Buck Revell's story was circulating at this time to the effect that Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams and John Gedney were the tramps who had been photographed being marched through Dealey Plaza. Roy Vaughn:

"I can't tell you if these guys were Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams and John Gedney. I don't know. A railroad man came down when I arrived on the scene. It was after lunch. 1:00 p.m., 2:00 p.m., 2:30 p.m., sometimes afterward. We were dispatched there. I was assigned to patrol in the South Dallas area. The dispatcher told us to report to that location - code three. And that's when I went. I was not there until sometime after the shooting occurred. This particular incident I am talking about was not immediately after the shooting, no. I was in between the Texas School Book Depository and what used to be a saw factory. And I did detain a man, a security guard brought him down. He had found that individual on the upper floors of the building. I took that man to the Dallas County Sheriff's Office that was directly across the street. Me and several others officers were involved in getting the people out of the open type car. If there was any arrests prior to these, I don't know. I can't say...I don't remember if they smelled. That was 30 years ago today. I was always under the impression there was no paperwork for 29 years then I heard about the arrest records [of Harold Doyle, John Gedney and Gus Abrams]."

Marvin Wise's typed HSCA testimony, below

"He parked near the railroad tracks. He was sitting in his car and A man working in the railroad building waved at him. Wise and another officer (name forgotten) were told by the man that three men got into a boxcar about four or five hundred yards down the track. Wise, in company with Bill Bass, Vaughn and Middleton, went to the boxcars and took the men off the boxcar."

in Harold Weisberg's archive: according to a source in either DPD or the Sheriff dept (Weisberg speculated if Sheriff's dept it came from Roger Craig), Penn Jones was told the boxcar containing the Three Tramps most photographed that day was stopped opposite 260 South Houston St, as marked on the map, below. 

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The DPD dispatcher and Officer Vaughn's discussion mentions the train is currently stopped on the triple overpass, below. Backing up Weisberg's information the train had crossed the overpass and was several hundreds yards down from Bower's yard. Confirmed by Wise & Vaughn's statements.

 

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"[61] Patrolmen G.W. Temple and R. E. Vaughn: We have information from the agent out here at T & P. Said that the train
is stopped on the overpass, the triple overpass; that there was a person jumping at the ninth boxcar from the front engine. Said he is hiding in a car."

Clearly two sets of tramps were taken from the trains on the day of the assassination. One set were arrested 'right after JFK shot'. These were the tramps detained in the railyard close to Bower's control tower. Again, as Bowers described ...

"Lee Bowers recalled: "Since there was the possibility that someone could have...climbed aboard this freight primarily... I stopped the train and gave them a chance to examine it and to be sure that there was no one on it. As a matter of fact, there were three people on it who appeared to be winos, and perhaps were the most frightened winos I had ever seen in my life, since there were possibly 50 policemen with shotguns and Tommy guns and various other weapons shaking them out of these boxcars."
 

"Ball: In this area around your tower?
Bowers: That's right. Sealed off the area, and I held off the trains until they could be examined, and there was some transients taken on at least one train."

The train had not left the railyard at this point. 

The second group of tramps were seen by Bowers as the train exited the railyard, which happened later on in the afternoon. Naturally. And this being later on in the afternoon is reflected in the lack of crowds in the photographed tramp photos.

Not that any of this moves the bar any further ... 60 years later. But Eh.

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On 2/27/2024 at 12:58 PM, Robert Reeves said:

Marvin L. Wise, born July 20th 1934, deceased November 4th 2018.

He joined the United States Army in 1956 at the age of 22 and was active duty until 1958. Wise stayed in the Army Reserves for three years. He joined the Dallas Police Department in 1959. from https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/dallas-tx/marvin-wise-8044569

Marvin Wise's interview with the HSCA in 1977.

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1. Wise stated he knew Jack Ruby, Wise and his wife attended Ruby's Vegas club. Wise knew Jack Ruby before he was a DPD officer. (so at least more than 4 years, Wise joined DPD in 59)
2. Wise is assigned to #71 district for that day. His regular partner, AR Brock, was assigned to #69 district (would be interesting to know AR Brocks views of the day)
3. Wise heard over radio there'd been a shooting involving ''The Man'' (presumably POTUS at around 12:30)
4. Wise gets call to attend TSBD for emergency and report to supervisor
5. Wise parks his patrol car near the railroad tracks at the side of the TSBD
6  Wise heard about the Tippit shooting over the radio (1:15pm)
7  Wise saw an employee in the railroad building (presumably Lee Bowers) waving at him to come over
8  Wise is told by Bowers that three men got into a boxcar four to five hundred yards down the track
9  Wise says: Bill Bass, Roy E Vaughn, and officer Middleton went to the boxcars and removed the tramps
10 Wise is photographed with Bill Bass escorting the 'three tramps' through dealey plaza
11 Wise was assigned to the Dallas police basement on the 24th where Jack Ruby shoots Oswald
12 Wise 'sent' to Parkland hospital to 'guard' the operating room containing a dying Oswald
13 Wise states that in the photograph showing him leading the three tramps he had a bad ear infection and had cotton wool in it. That it may have come loose
14 Wise gives the name/address of his doctor at the time who is also currently his doctor (presumably claiming the Dr can vouch for the ear infection)
15 Wise gives an explanation as to why he isn't wearing DPD issued shoes

Wise & Roy Vaughn (later Sherrif Vaughn) also a confessed to being a 'friend' of Jack Ruby. Both DPD officers are

1, involved in the arrest of the three tramps, Wise escorts them through dealey plaza.

2, both are suspected of enabling Ruby shooting of Oswald in the basement.

3, Wise is given the job of 'guarding' the operating room at Parkland that Oswald dies in. Suspicious? just ever so slightly!

Below, Wise communication to Jesse Curry as to his actions on Sunday the 24th.

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below, Wise having to deny seeing Jack Ruby during his time in the basement, dated Nov 29th 

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Wise seems to have been in hot water from the beginning.

Marvin Wise had an earpiece on during the three tramps episode. It certainly isn't cotton wool!

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I've done a little bit of asking around and apparently Dallas Police officers were not issued with such equipment in 1963.

Not even the secret service had this level of communication at the time of the assassination. Vince Palamara says SS were issued such earpieces in the early 70s. 

Jim Garrison's investigation firstly spotted something in Wise's ear, hence the later HSCA questioning of his earpiece. I guess without the level of enhancement of photographs that we have they could not define for sure what Wise was wearing? 

wise-with-cotton-wool.jpg

Wise's named doctor was listed in the 1969 Directory, Aviation Medical Examiners https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=26nsmXabJNcC&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=kendall+moore,+327-4584&source=bl&ots=I8ydLRUyqb&sig=ACfU3U3COiXaLDORH1_DQKbg7INChLmdwg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0g7Gs8suEAxVHUkEAHWcgAScQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q=kendall moore%2C 327-4584&f=false

The taller tramp has something tucked down his leg. Possibly a walkie talkie, could be a bottle of booze. They were supposedly thoroughly searched by Wise and co when arrested.

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Wise and Vaughn both said that William Middleton was one of the arresting officers, Middleton denied being on duty on the day of the assassination, below

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The more publicized DPD cop, Roy Vaughn, who, like Marvin Wise, was also a suspect in allowing Ruby to gain access to the basement. Vaughn being subjected to lie detecting tests!

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Both Wise and Vaughn said they knew Ruby since 1959

There's an interesting page on the Mary Ferrell Foundation website https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=9745

Anyone know any more about Vaughn apprehending Braden in the dal-tex?


Marvin Wise is the gatekeeper to the legitimacy the three tramps photographs are named Doyle, Gedney, Abrams. He is the officer that claims to have written down their names and lost the piece of paper with them on. And then seeing the 1992 Current Affairs piece of the three tramps was able to regain his memory of the tramps names. At the same time Wise is also the destroyer of the the three tramps photographed with him were ever detained.

It's there, the truth, in black and white in the 3/6/92 FBI interview with Wise. 

 

from below 

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Just 10 minutes after dropping the three tramps off at 'Decker's' they were gone! Not even questioned! let alone jailed.

So how does this square with the so-called arrest sheets and what Harold Doyle said himself?

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Doyle says they were detained for two or three nights and released.

The bogus arrest sheets says the same. Near enough! below

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Release date given as 26/11/63. And and completely bogus arrest sheet anyway. No finger prints, no arrest number, accused stated as being arrested right after JFK shot.

"These men were seen getting on a boxcar in a train right after Kennedy was shot. These men are all passing through, they have no jobs..." from Doyle's arrest sheet


Sheriff (in 93) Roy Vaughn was contacted on November 22, 1993. Buck Revell's story was circulating at this time to the effect that Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams and John Gedney were the tramps who had been photographed being marched through Dealey Plaza. Roy Vaughn: below

Above from From A.J Weberman's Coup D'etat in America

Did Vaughn arrest/apprehend Jim Braden in Daltex?

 

Marvin Wise had cotton in his ears.  He told the FBI that the cotton was there because he had an ear infection.  The reality of the 60's is that shooters would put cotton in their ears to muffle the gun shot.  If you have ever shot a gun, you know how loud the report is.  What intrigues me the most is how L Fletcher Prouty figured all of this out, happens to be out of the country when the assassination occurs, and knows Edward Lansdale, yet he was not involved in the assassination in any way!

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@Robert Reeves Wow. I've never seen that picture of the tall tramp's ankle. Thank you for posting it.

I've worn lav mic's before with the transmitter on my ankle many times. While you are right and there's a small possibility it could be a strangely-shaped bottle of liquor, in my opinion it's almost certainly a transmitter and antenna. (I also believe Dark Complexioned Man had a walkie talkie.) 

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On 2/27/2024 at 6:58 PM, Robert Reeves said:

The more publicized DPD cop, Roy Vaughn, who, like Marvin Wise, was also a suspect in allowing Ruby to gain access to the basement. Vaughn being subjected to lie detecting tests!

Assassination researcher Chris Gallop got to know and interview Roy Vaughn, who swore to his dying day Ruby did not get past him down the Main St., ramp.  

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7 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

Assassination researcher Chris Gallop got to know and interview Roy Vaughn, who swore to his dying day Ruby did not get past him down the Main St., ramp.  

Someone allowed Ruby into the building. I believe officer Marvin Wise and Vaughn are both strong candidates for enabling Ruby to murder Oswald.

Officer Roy Vaughn & Marvin L. Wise are both extremely suspicious characters. Marvin Wise is wearing unofficial DPD communications equipment during the day of the assassination! for starters.

Both Wise & Vaughn within days of the assassination put out statements admitting they are friendly with Jack Ruby, both friendly with Ruby since 1959. Both are involved in the arrest of the three tramps photographed. Vaughn is alleged to have also apprehended Jim Braden in the dal-tex. Wise is split up from his usual daily patrol partner A.R. Brock on the day of the assassination. Wise and Brock are reunited on the day that Oswald is to be moved from the Dallas Police basement.

Brock was assigned to the elevator area at the east end of the basement, by Sergeant Dean and Sergeant Putnam (Putnam was also one of the officers out front of the TSBD when the three tramps are photographed there). Marvin Wise was posted to an area by some tv cameras.

Brock was in his position from 9:30am until 10:45am. Sergeant Putnam posted Brock at 10:45am to an intersection close to the vehicle that was going to transport Oswald (Elm and Ervay). Marvin Wise dropped Brock off using Brock's patrol car. Wise says he was posted to Elm/St Paul

Marvin Wise after dropping his partner Brock off at Elm and Ervay doesn't return for him until 11:30am. By which time, Oswald has been shot by Jack Ruby at 11:21 a.m. Marvin Wise collects Brock from Elm and Ervay at 11:30am and takes him to Parkland hospital -- Marvin Wise testified that he was 'guarding' the Parkland operating room that Oswald died in. Marvin Wise and Brock both leave Parkland after an hour.

Marvin Wise gets separated twice from his normal patrol partner A.R. Brock, during the JFK & Oswald murders. Two very controversial moments of the assassination. Firstly, to escort the 'three tramps' across dealey plaza to Decker's place. And Wise is photographed wearing non-standard DPD issued earpiece during the process. This guy was operational, and Jesse Curry probably sensed it, why else did he spotlight on Wise, seeking clarification of Wise of Ruby's relationship.

 

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Just two days after Oswald is assassinated in the basement Jesse Curry has requested Marvin Wise clarify his actions on that day! (as above)

And then on the 29th of November BOTH Wise and Vaughn release statements as to if they'd seen Ruby in the basement at any time during the execution of Oswald.

Wise's statement released 29th November, below

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And Vaughn's longer statement regarding Ruby, also released 29th November, below

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Officer Marvin Wise, after Ruby executes Oswald, collects his patrol partner AR Brock at 11:30am and heads to Parkland hospital to guard the operating room containing a dying Oswald. Marvin Wise was knee-deep in this assassination. Not just Marvin Wise, I'd say Vaughn, and Sergeant Putnam. Sergeant Putnam was issuing orders during the three tramps manoeuvre across the plaza. And he was also given the task of placing strategic police protection for the movement of Oswald, which resulted in his assassination. 

 

 

 

 

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