Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

[Paul Rigby]

 

[Paul Rigby]

1 hour ago, Matt Allison said:

We'll assume you're referring to Harris, as Trump has no chance whatsoever of winning in November.

Let us now praise the Cicero served up by the donor class of the Democrat Party, you know, the group that saves democracy by, er, abolishing voting:

 

[David Von Pein]

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Edited August 5 by David Von Pein

[Karl Kinaski]

  No real forensics were carried out on the roof. My question: why they tied Crooks hands together behind his back with flex cuffs? Was he still alive, when they approached him?

 

Edited August 4 by Karl Kinaski

[Paul Rigby]

 

[Paul Rigby]

 

[Karl Kinaski]

 

Can a modern spy satellite see a man stretched out on a roof?

 

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Yes, modern spy satellites have the capability to detect and identify a person lying on a roof, though the effectiveness depends on several factors including the satellite's resolution, the time of day, and weather conditions. 

 

 

[Pamela Brown]

I am starting to wonder if this assassination attempt is actually a failed Murder Most Foul.  The way I see it, Dylan targeted Mr. Trump in a song from RARW...Key West, which talked about the assassination of Pres. McKinley...

https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/key-west-philosopher-pirate/

[Matt Allison]

Posting YouTube videos like they mean something is such a bizarre appeal to authority.

Any weirdo can make a video and post it on YouTube.

And it seems a lot of weirdos do exactly that.

Must be Putin's preferred method of misinformation.

[Paul Rigby]

 

[Paul Rigby]

ABLECHILD: Crime Scene Compromised — Alleged Assassin’s Autopsy Is Being Withheld — WHAT’S GOING ON?

Aug. 6, 2024 8:00 am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/ablechild-crime-scene-compromised-alleged-assassins-autopsy-missing/

On August 2nd many news outlets reported that the autopsy of Thomas Matthew Crooks had been released by the Butler County Coroner’s office. The fact is that mainstream media is late to the party and the Butler County Coroner’s office released the cause and manner of death of Thomas Matthew Crooks to AbleChild nearly two weeks earlier on July 21st.

Unfortunately, what the mainstream media doesn’t understand is that the cause and manner of death is not an autopsy and, although an autopsy has already been conducted on the alleged body of Thomas Matthew Crooks, the results of that autopsy may never see the light of day.

That’s right. Along with so many other aspects of this “investigation” the public may never get to know the details of the alleged assassin’s autopsy. And, while the autopsy shuffle is interesting, the questions regarding chain of custody of that body that need to be asked of the Butler County Coroner, William F. Young III, are even more compelling. So, let’s first recap the case of the presently missing autopsy.

Ablechild contacted the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s office to obtain a copy of the autopsy and here’s what we learned. According to news reports, apparently, at some point early Sunday morning July 14th, the alleged shooter’s body was transferred to the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s office for autopsy.

By what transportation did the Butler County coroner use? Nobody knows. The Autopsy was conducted (no one will say when) and the autopsy was completed (no one knows when) and results were sent to the coroner’s office in Butler County (nobody knows the date).

Here’s where the results of the autopsy being publicly released get muddled. Apparently, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania mandates that Allegheny County must release full autopsy reports to journalists and the public.

Yeah!!! Not so fast. When requested by AbleChild, the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s office refused to release the autopsy because… wait for it, “the autopsy was completed and commissioned (paid for) by Butler County and all information relating to the case must go through Butler County.” Huh? Because Butler County paid for the autopsy, Allegheny County cannot make public the autopsy? You can’t make this up.

Though great efforts were made, AbleChild could not find any change in Pennsylvania law/regulations that exempts release of Allegheny County autopsies because another county paid for it.

Furthermore, the Butler County Coroner will not release the autopsy to anyone other than the next of kin (who have remained silent except for the father stating “I gotta pee”) and legal representatives, falling back on a single court case: Penn Jersey Advance, Inc. v. Grim, 962 A.2d 632 (Pa. 2009). The “Right-to-Know” laws in Pennsylvania apparently mean nothing.

Is anyone surprised that the autopsy is apparently a Commonwealth secret? Nothing regarding the physical evidence surrounding this case has been made public. So, the Butler County Coroner (who may or may not have a medical/legal/investigative background and usually is an elected position) has some explaining to do.

AbleChild left messages for an interview with William F. Young III, the Butler County Coroner, but they have not been returned. Okay, because the coroner will not take our questions, we’ll make them public. Maybe somebody can provide some answers.

First, according to a July 17, 2024, article in the Butler Eagle newspaper by Eddie Trizzino, “the Butler County Coroner William F. Young III, was unable to attend the campaign rally for former President Trump on Saturday July 13, because of other engagements, but he found himself at the Butler Farm Show grounds after midnight Sunday to examine the victim who was shot at the rally.”

The article points out that “the coroner and another deputy later returned after 6 a.m. to the American Glass Research (AGR) International building, where he climbed onto its roof to confirm the death of Thomas Matthew Crooks.” Really?!

The coroner and his deputy “returned after 6 a.m… to the AGR building…where he climbed onto its roof to confirm the death…?” Hmmm. That’s odd, leaving one to wonder about many things.

First, assuming no one moved the body of the alleged shooter (chain of custody thing), that means the body laid on the AGR building roof from when it was shot six thirtyish p.m. July 13th until twelve hours later at 6 a.m.ish July 14.

Did the coroner get instructions to come back to the crime scene the next morning? By whom? The FBI and the Secret Service? Why? What was going on at the crime scene that the coroner was denied access to the crime scene and the victim’s body?  Plus, the coroner released the death certificate, testifying that he identified and determined the cause of death on the 13th day of July.  That may not be true because he returned to the crime scene at 6 a.m. on July 14th.

Further, if the body laid on the AGR building roof all night, who (what law enforcement entity) would be tasked with securing the building? Please don’t say the Secret Service or the FBI. Seriously, this is all about chain of custody. Certainly, the body of the alleged would-be assassin did not remain on the roof all night without some law enforcement security. We need to know who that was.

Next. Given that the alleged assassin did not have any identification on his person, by what method did the coroner identify the body? Further, the FBI has announced that it identified the alleged weapon used in the shooting by serial number. When the coroner climbed up on the roof at 6 a.m. was the weapon still on the roof, undisturbed, and part of the crime scene?  Did the coroner take photographs of the body on the roof (crime scene)?

Finally, there are photographs of FBI personnel hosing off the roof of the AGR building. Did the coroner request the FBI to take this action? If so, why would the coroner request the investigative body to remove evidence from a crime scene it was investigating. This seems odd. Was there no other outside entity available to the coroner?

Naturally, there are many questions about the coroner’s actions regarding the crime scene. But AbleChild is interested in knowing the results of the autopsy to rule out any mental health medications that may have been in the alleged shooter’s system at the time of death. Too often, these killers have been medicated with serious psychiatric mind-altering drugs. While the FBI reports the alleged shooter was not suffering from a mental illness or being medicated, the autopsy/toxicology report would put the matter to bed.

Clearly there were numerous failures on July 13th.  Must the failure to provide the public with important physical evidence about the alleged shooter be added to those failures?

The public needs to know whether a projectile was removed from the body of the alleged shooter and did that projectile match the reported sniper’s weapon? Is the wound to the alleged victim’s head indicative of the alleged trajectory of the sniper’s bullet? These are basic questions that may be answered by the autopsy results…or not. Either way, the public has a right to know.

[Paul Rigby]

 

[Paul Rigby]

 

[Matt Allison]

 

[Cliff Varnell]

On 8/3/2024 at 2:17 PM, Paul Rigby said:

Let us now praise the Cicero served up by the donor class of the Democrat Party, you know, the group that saves democracy by, er, abolishing voting:

First Mr. Rigby accused the Demiocratic Party of a "Moonie cult" like attachment to Joe Biden, then when everyone involved agreed Biden should step aside Mr. Rigby accuses the Democrats of "abolishing voting."

The Democratic donor class wanted Harris to pick Josh Shapiro for VP but she went with Tim Walz.

The real "Moonie" cult of course is the one Mr. Rigby loves.

On 8/3/2024 at 2:17 PM, Paul Rigby said:

 

 

How old and addled is Jimmy Dore?  Paul Whelan, one of the freed hostages, was taken during the Trump regime.

Dore is yet another clownish fascist propagandist adored by other fascists.

Edited August 7 by Cliff Varnell