The Death of David Kelly

[John Geraghty]

I would be interested to hear Lance Prices input on this matter, as he has worked with Alistair Campbell.

John, would you ask him to join us?

John

[Steve Rymer]

Interesting article...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=3249

[John Simkin]

Interesting article...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=3249

This link does not seem to work. Do you mean this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=3249

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=2993

[Steve Rymer]

Sorry John,

The link works for me - if a little slow...

For some reason it won't leave it alone...it insists on turning it into a hyperlink.

Here it is on tinyurl (still slow):

http://tinyurl.com/m75mf

Edited September 19, 2006 by Steve Rymer

[John Simkin]

The Hutton Inquiry And The Murder Of Dr. David Kelly

by Ken Welch

November 7, 2006

I recently located the BBC video from the Hutton Inquiry, the official judicial investigation into the events surrounding the July, 2003, death of Dr. David Kelly, a respected government biological scientist in the U.K., and a leading arms inspector in Iraq prior to the current invasion and occupation. Dr. Kelly was found dead near his home; supposedly a suicide after becoming embroiled in the early debate regarding blatant lying by the Blair government about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. A cursory investigation by the local coroner, apparently with a wink and a nod to London, concluded that Dr. Kelly had killed himself, although the manner in which this happened was not particularly clear. The emerging details pointed so strongly toward a badly botched murder, including or at least followed by official complicity, that a major outcry quickly followed......

Full article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...;articleId=3760

[John Simkin]

It has been announced that the BBC is working on a documentary on the death of David Kelly. However, don't expect the documentary to suggest a conspiracy. The BBC has requested an inflation-beaten licence fee rise. The decision will be made at around the time the documentary is due to be broadcast.

[John Geraghty]

It has been announced that the BBC is working on a documentary on the death of David Kelly. However, don't expect the documentary to suggest a conspiracy. The BBC has requested an inflation-beaten licence fee rise. The decision will be made at around the time the documentary is due to be broadcast.

Here is a promo for the BBC documentary that John remarked upon, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6213898.stm

it is part of a series which deals with 9/11 and the death of Princess Diana.

There seems to be a reasonable amount of talk about it, a BBC blog linked to it mentions the amount of chit chat following Shane O'Sullivans piece and goes on to describe general attitudes towards conspiracies.

John

[John Simkin]

Here is a promo for the BBC documentary that John remarked upon, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6213898.stm

it is part of a series which deals with 9/11 and the death of Princess Diana.

According to leaks, the idea of the programme is to undermine the current police investigation into the death of Diana. The leading item on BBC news yesterday was that Diane had not been killed as part of a conspiracy. The evidence for this is that the car driver, Henri Paul, was drunk at the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6162041.stm

I expect the same will happen in the David Kelly programme. As I said earlier, the BBC is very keen not to upset the government at the moment. The BBC has requested an inflation-beaten licence fee rise. The decision will be made at around the time the Kelly documentary is due to be broadcast.

[Sterling Seagrave]

Im sure all of the british members are aware of the case of Dr.David Kelly who was the source of a BBC story which shows that documents with relation to Iraqs WMD were 'sexed up'. There was a lot of controversy surrounding his death which culminated in the Hutton inquiry to see if there was any govt. involvement in his death.

The ambulance driver and paramedics who arrived at the scene of Dr.Kellys death stated that there was not enough blood present for him to have died by slashing his wrists.

Any other evidence or speculation on this topic. Our American and European friends , well everybody indeed should google this topic as it this report was the reason Britain went into Iraq.

There have been a number of "assisted suicides" in which the wrists were slashed, but with little blood in evidence. Which means the heart was no longer beating when the wrists were slashed. Aside from Dr. David Kelly, one of the most famous cases (in America) was the death of investigative reporter Danny Casolaro, who was investigating the "Octopus" or "The Enterprise" -- the privatized CIA that consists of "rogue elements", CIA agents who have lost their jobs for various reasons, former Special Forces or SEALs, and a variety of private mercenary organizations including one belonging to Halliburton. Danny Casolaro drove from Washington, DC, to West Virginia to meet members of "The Enterprise", checked into a hotel room, and was later found dead in the bath tub, wrists slashed. I've discussed his death and autopsy with Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, who at the time was the chief forensic pathologist at the CIA. Green participated in the Casolaro autopsy, and closely examined his hotel room. Green told me that the room showed obvious signs of a violent struggle, and that there was negligible blood in the bath tub or around the tub. Therefore, Casolaro was already dead when he was placed naked in the tub and his wrists slashed. This Green told me was precisely the case with Dr. Kelly. So, in both instances, they were clearly murdered. As to who did it, there are so many possibilities that it could be more sensible to ask who ordered it. As Kelly was a particular irritant and embarrassment to Downing Street, and to the Defense Ministry, it seems likely that his murder was not carried out by some "rogue element" but was sanctioned explicitly or implicitly at the highest level. Why his murder was deemed necessary when Dr. Kelly had already had his career and reputation destroyed, and had been subjected to extreme public humiliation, suggests that the decision to kill him was pathological. Given the behavior of Bush and of Blair the last several years, one cannot entirely rule out insanity.

Sterling Seagrave

[Anthony Thorne]

I remember gathering up a number of articles about the Casolaro death after reading one of those SPY magazine pieces on it. Just based on the surface info it looked like murder - Casolaro was squeamish, hated pain and didn't like getting a cut, so it's unlikely he'd choose lengthy arm slices to kill himself - and I remember there were a lot of articles around online at one point, including a sardonic piece listing the number of journalists who had died, suicided or fallen out of high buildings while investigating it, seemingly par for the course with this sort of stuff. Peter Dale Scott noted in a poem/article a year or two ago how Casolaro had made a note to go meet him in the days before his death. That's interesting, but perhaps it's a good thing that Scott wasn't dragged into it.

Edited February 12, 2007 by Anthony Thorne

[John Simkin]

There have been a number of "assisted suicides" in which the wrists were slashed, but with little blood in evidence. Which means the heart was no longer beating when the wrists were slashed. Aside from Dr. David Kelly, one of the most famous cases (in America) was the death of investigative reporter Danny Casolaro, who was investigating the "Octopus" or "The Enterprise" -- the privatized CIA that consists of "rogue elements", CIA agents who have lost their jobs for various reasons, former Special Forces or SEALs, and a variety of private mercenary organizations including one belonging to Halliburton. Danny Casolaro drove from Washington, DC, to West Virginia to meet members of "The Enterprise", checked into a hotel room, and was later found dead in the bath tub, wrists slashed. I've discussed his death and autopsy with Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, who at the time was the chief forensic pathologist at the CIA. Green participated in the Casolaro autopsy, and closely examined his hotel room. Green told me that the room showed obvious signs of a violent struggle, and that there was negligible blood in the bath tub or around the tub. Therefore, Casolaro was already dead when he was placed naked in the tub and his wrists slashed. This Green told me was precisely the case with Dr. Kelly. So, in both instances, they were clearly murdered. As to who did it, there are so many possibilities that it could be more sensible to ask who ordered it. As Kelly was a particular irritant and embarrassment to Downing Street, and to the Defense Ministry, it seems likely that his murder was not carried out by some "rogue element" but was sanctioned explicitly or implicitly at the highest level. Why his murder was deemed necessary when Dr. Kelly had already had his career and reputation destroyed, and had been subjected to extreme public humiliation, suggests that the decision to kill him was pathological. Given the behavior of Bush and of Blair the last several years, one cannot entirely rule out insanity.

I have started a thread on the Danny Casolaro case.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9343

I am especially interested in the connections between Casolaro's death and Ted Shackley/October Surprise.

[John Simkin]

Over the last few months I have been helping a British MP in his investigation into the death of Dr. David Kelly. Some of this research will appear in a BBC 2 documentary on Sunday (the same series as the 9/11 programme – see the Conspiracy to Conspiracy thread).

The evidence suggests that Kelly was murdered by American operatives. We are very interested if any member in the United States has heard any stories about this. Please feel free to PM any information that you are unwilling to post on the forum.

You can read about the Dr. David Kelly case here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly

[John Simkin]

The BBC broadcast what I considered to be a balanced account of the death of David Kelly last night.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/cons...les/6213898.stm

Unlike last week’s programme on 9/11 those who argued for a political conspiracy came across as intelligent and rational. Norman Baker, the MP who is leading the investigation, was especially impressive.

Some of those interviewed included:

Rowena Thursby

http://dr-david-kelly.blogspot.com/

Michael Shrimpton

http://www.intelligencesummit.org/speakers...elShrimpton.php

http://www.prisonplanet.com/022504shrimptontranscript.html

Warren Reed

http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/politi...le_1830.asp?s=1

[William Kelly]

John,

Besides Judith Miller's book and email, what's the American connection again?

Where does the CIA come it?

There's been nothing in the media in USA that I've seen regarding this.

Thanks,

BK

[John Simkin]

Besides Judith Miller's book and email, what's the American connection again?

Where does the CIA come it?

There's been nothing in the media in USA that I've seen regarding this.

Michael Shrimpton is a national security lawyer who has close connections to intelligence services. He tells the following story:

"Now on Saturday 19th July, David was murdered on the 17th, on Saturday the 19th, within 48 hours of the murder, I was contacted by a British intelligence officer who told me he’d been murdered. That didn’t take me by surprise, I was suspicious of the suicide theory from the word go. Now that source told me he’d done some digging and discovered that, he didn’t name names but he discovered that it had been known about in Whitehall prior to the 17th July that David Kelly was going to be taken down. Now normally with a suicide, Alex, you appreciate that we don’t like people knowing in advance. If people know in advance of the death, that normally points away from suicide."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/022504shrimptontranscript.html

However, another informant has claimed that the assassination was carried out by CIA contract agents. I cannot say anymore than that but I have been given the name of the person who organized the assassination.