New Section: George Bush

[John Simkin]

I have added a new section to the Index of the Forum:

The Corruption of George Bush

Military Industrial Complex: Bush and Halliburton

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1160

A New Watergate

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5272

Military Industrial Complex: Bush and Halliburton

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6116

Assassination, Terrorism and the Arms Trade

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5799

Military Dictatorship in the US

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6341

Iraq, 9/11 and the MICIC

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6214

Kenneth Lay: Another suspicious death?

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7304

Karl Rove and the CIA

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4297

Halliburton and the JFK assassination

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2700

9/11 and the JFK Assassination

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2507

[Brendan Slattery]

Simkin, you're a disgrace. The fact that you're allowed anywhere near a classroom is terrifying. You're not an "educator" of any kind; you're a left-wing radical socialist who long ago dispensed with any of notion of fairness or objectivity. Your hate-fueled anti-Americanism has reached OCD levels. There are 193 countries in the world, but you're fixated on just one. Incredibly, every negative event in the last 75 years has somehow been traced back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. America can never be a victim; only an aggressor. The stupefying, murderous crimes of the Communist world and the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalism elicit nary a mention. Why worry about Bin Laden when you can rehash a bogeyman like Joe McCarthy for the umpteenth time, right? Why despair about the lack of civil liberties and human rights in the Arab world when you can kick around a dead horse like Watergate, right? Why scrutinize the anti-democratic and corrupt reigns of Castro, Assad, Putin and the Palestinian Authority when you can ascribe crazy, sinister motivations to an innocent collegiate group like YAF? Why recognize a demonstrably guilty man like Lee Harvey Oswald when you can make all sorts of reckless, fact-free accusations instead. You don't know a goddamn thing about this country, other than you wish it and its leaders ill will. Bush isn't dangerous; you're dangerous. Men like Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and Joe Kennedy were wrong in the early 1940s and you're just as clueless today. I believe the Soviets coined a term for Western apologists seduced by tyrannical regimes: "useful idiots." Try making yourself a little less "useful" to democracy's enemies before entering your twilight years.

[Guest Stephen Turner]

I believe the Soviets coined a term for Western apologists seduced by tyrannical regimes: "useful idiots." Try making yourself a little less "useful" to democracy's enemies before entering your twilight years.

When the patronising tone ceases, in favour of angry, self rightous personal rants, you just know you have hit a nerve. LOL. Brendan, that "If you dont like Bush your a Communist/Terrorist"B/S might have some clout in the US, but over here its about as effective as a chocolate radiator. Oh, and BTW, quite a few of us here are Socialists, now I realise what that little fact must do to your blood pressure(hope you have good health insurance, over here its FREE) but do try and calm down sir. regards, Steve.

[Mark Stapleton]

Simkin, you're a disgrace. The fact that you're allowed anywhere near a classroom is terrifying. You're not an "educator" of any kind; you're a left-wing radical socialist who long ago dispensed with any of notion of fairness or objectivity. Your hate-fueled anti-Americanism has reached OCD levels. There are 193 countries in the world, but you're fixated on just one. Incredibly, every negative event in the last 75 years has somehow been traced back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. America can never be a victim; only an aggressor. The stupefying, murderous crimes of the Communist world and the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalism elicit nary a mention. Why worry about Bin Laden when you can rehash a bogeyman like Joe McCarthy for the umpteenth time, right? Why despair about the lack of civil liberties and human rights in the Arab world when you can kick around a dead horse like Watergate, right? Why scrutinize the anti-democratic and corrupt reigns of Castro, Assad, Putin and the Palestinian Authority when you can ascribe crazy, sinister motivations to an innocent collegiate group like YAF? Why recognize a demonstrably guilty man like Lee Harvey Oswald when you can make all sorts of reckless, fact-free accusations instead. You don't know a goddamn thing about this country, other than you wish it and its leaders ill will. Bush isn't dangerous; you're dangerous. Men like Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and Joe Kennedy were wrong in the early 1940s and you're just as clueless today. I believe the Soviets coined a term for Western apologists seduced by tyrannical regimes: "useful idiots." Try making yourself a little less "useful" to democracy's enemies before entering your twilight years.

Getting a little hysterical aren't we, Brendan? All John's done is create a new category in the index section--something he does periodically. Boy, what a performance!

[Guest]

Having read Brendan's little rant I am intrigued to know why he objects to socialists being educators? Perhaps he could explain why.

[Jack White]

I suggest the following topic additions:

Bush Crime Family

Bush Mafia

Bush Savings and Loan scandal

Bush Nazis

Bush Eugenics

Bush Skull and Bones

Bush Bohemian Grove

Google any of these for hundreds of references.

Jack

Edited July 14, 2006 by Jack White

[Mark Stapleton]

Jack,

The resemblance between George Bush and Lance Link is striking. I like your style.

[Brendan Slattery]

When the patronising tone ceases, in favour of angry, self rightous personal rants, you just know you have hit a nerve. LOL.

I see. So the key to being taken seriously here is to make the most outlandish claims in a clear, civilized tone.

Brendan, that "If you dont like Bush your a Communist/Terrorist"B/S might have some clout in the US, but over here its about as effective as a chocolate radiator.

I'm not trying to win you over. Why would I? You're incorrigible. Nor do you deserve any form of deference.

Oh, and BTW, quite a few of us here are Socialists, now I realise what that little fact must do to your blood pressure(hope you have good health insurance, over here its FREE) but do try and calm down sir. regards, Steve.

Socialists in 2006. What a tragedy.

[J. William King]

Brendan, why don't you go back to the JFK section on the IMDB where you're known as DVP, David Von Pein, NickSlick, and other names, and keep misinforming and attacking those who don't know any better.

JWK

Edited July 14, 2006 by J. William King

[Jason Vermeer]

Simkin, you're a disgrace. The fact that you're allowed anywhere near a classroom is terrifying. You're not an "educator" of any kind; you're a left-wing radical socialist who long ago dispensed with any of notion of fairness or objectivity. Your hate-fueled anti-Americanism has reached OCD levels. There are 193 countries in the world, but you're fixated on just one. Incredibly, every negative event in the last 75 years has somehow been traced back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. America can never be a victim; only an aggressor. The stupefying, murderous crimes of the Communist world and the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalism elicit nary a mention. Why worry about Bin Laden when you can rehash a bogeyman like Joe McCarthy for the umpteenth time, right? Why despair about the lack of civil liberties and human rights in the Arab world when you can kick around a dead horse like Watergate, right? Why scrutinize the anti-democratic and corrupt reigns of Castro, Assad, Putin and the Palestinian Authority when you can ascribe crazy, sinister motivations to an innocent collegiate group like YAF? Why recognize a demonstrably guilty man like Lee Harvey Oswald when you can make all sorts of reckless, fact-free accusations instead. You don't know a goddamn thing about this country, other than you wish it and its leaders ill will. Bush isn't dangerous; you're dangerous. Men like Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and Joe Kennedy were wrong in the early 1940s and you're just as clueless today. I believe the Soviets coined a term for Western apologists seduced by tyrannical regimes: "useful idiots." Try making yourself a little less "useful" to democracy's enemies before entering your twilight years.

Hello again Brendan,

This might be off topic in this section but during our last exchange you listed your motivation for participating on this board. I thought you might be joking with your first rationale-meeting crazy women-but I did read your subsequent reasons. It would appear that you are more interested in engaging in political debate and identifying aspects of this forum you described as a "political cesspool" requiring some type of "disinfectant". It appears that you have formed a pretty solid opinion about this particular "conspiratorial message board". When you are actually discussing the Kennedy assassination, you make clear your theory of Oswald acting alone and point to many of John McAdams points. There's certainly nothing wrong with that but when, I for one, recently challenged you with an actual scientific study complete with statistical analysis, it appeared as though you only read the rebuttal to the study, again on McAdams sight, but did not read the D.B. Thomas study where the actual controls and statistical values are listed. If you cannot understand the science behind the study or just prefer to rely on an opinion essay which has not been replicated that's fine; however, you yourself stated, " I hate it when uninformed buffs try to play Johnny Scientist". Wouldn't you find better discourse in the "Political" forums here? I'll bet you'd get a lot of response there and perhaps find adversaries that you don't feel the need to say " I look forward to the defamation lawsuits you nuts so richly deserve". You already know who killed Kennedy. Why stay and create/experience a lot of ill will? Being a PR man, you probably have to wear your smiley face all day and so when work's over, it might seem kind of enjoyable to come to a forum such as this and wreak havoc but my guess is that this has backfired on you in the past which may explain why you keep your bio is so short and generic. I'm guessing, using your words again, that someone got really pissed and ended up "bitchslapping" Brendan. I'd bet that wouldn't happen if you found yourself on a forum with similar personalities.

Jason Vermeer

[Owen Parsons]

One part of this ridiculous rant caught my eye.

Why scrutinize the anti-democratic and corrupt reigns of Castro, Assad, Putin and the Palestinian Authority when you can ascribe crazy, sinister motivations to an innocent collegiate group like YAF?

And just how is Putin especially anti-democratic and corrupt? Is it because he's Russian? It seems that for some people (including you apparently) the Cold War never ended. Undoubtedly Russia is on the hit list of some very important people; just witness the recent spate of "democratic pro-Western revolutions" (courtesy of the CIA) in eastern European countries backed by Russia and the campaign against Russia coming from certain think-tanks and Soros-funded "non-governmental organizations."

[John Simkin]

Simkin, you're a disgrace. The fact that you're allowed anywhere near a classroom is terrifying. You're not an "educator" of any kind; you're a left-wing radical socialist who long ago dispensed with any of notion of fairness or objectivity.

Luckily, the UK education system does not remove teachers from the classroom for holding left-wing views. Of course, the United States famously did this during the 1950s. I suppose you would like to return to those days. Maybe you already have. I believe in some states like Texas you control the purchase of textbooks in the same way that the Soviet Union did during its period of communist rule. All dictatorships take a special interest in the way that history is taught in schools. That is the one thing that Hitler and Stalin had in common. As Khrushchev once said: “historians are dangerous people”.

The problem for conservatives like you is that you are losing control of the situation. Texas might be able to control the textbooks that their students can use, but they cannot stop them using the internet. I have recently had a series of complaints from the people who administer the Texas school system about my website. They have become concerned about the large number of their students who have been using my page on the Ku Klux Klan. At Google it is ranked 1st out of 4,490,000 pages.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkkk.htm

The Texas authorities are especially concerned about my explanation of the role played by Nathan Forrest in the establishment of the Ku Klux Klan. As you probably know, Forrest was the KKK’s first Grand Wizard. That is very embarrassing for the Texas school system as they portray him as a national hero.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USACWforrest.htm

As you see it is quiet a problem for those who wish to brainwash their students. Maybe you will have to act like China and do a deal with Google concerning the censorship of the web.

[Robert Charles-Dunne]

Simkin, you're a disgrace. The fact that you're allowed anywhere near a classroom is terrifying. You're not an "educator" of any kind; you're a left-wing radical socialist who long ago dispensed with any of notion of fairness or objectivity. Your hate-fueled anti-Americanism has reached OCD levels. There are 193 countries in the world, but you're fixated on just one. Incredibly, every negative event in the last 75 years has somehow been traced back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. America can never be a victim; only an aggressor. The stupefying, murderous crimes of the Communist world and the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalism elicit nary a mention. Why worry about Bin Laden when you can rehash a bogeyman like Joe McCarthy for the umpteenth time, right? Why despair about the lack of civil liberties and human rights in the Arab world when you can kick around a dead horse like Watergate, right? Why scrutinize the anti-democratic and corrupt reigns of Castro, Assad, Putin and the Palestinian Authority when you can ascribe crazy, sinister motivations to an innocent collegiate group like YAF? Why recognize a demonstrably guilty man like Lee Harvey Oswald when you can make all sorts of reckless, fact-free accusations instead. You don't know a goddamn thing about this country, other than you wish it and its leaders ill will. Bush isn't dangerous; you're dangerous. Men like Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and Joe Kennedy were wrong in the early 1940s and you're just as clueless today. I believe the Soviets coined a term for Western apologists seduced by tyrannical regimes: "useful idiots." Try making yourself a little less "useful" to democracy's enemies before entering your twilight years.

"Contemporary conservatives have become extremely contentious, confrontational, and aggressive in nearly every area of politics and governing. Today they have a tough-guy (and, in a few instances, a tough-gal) attitude, an arrogant and antagonistic style, along with a narrow outlook intolerant of those who challenge their extreme thinking. Incivility is now their norm."

The above is from Republican John Dean, cited from "How Conservatives Have Become Authoritarians and What it Means," which can be found here:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jo...rvatives_ha.htm

[J. Raymond Carroll]

All dictatorships take a special interest in the way that history is taught in schools. That is the one thing that Hitler and Stalin had in common.

I assume that the "the" in that last sentance was a typo, since Hitler and Stalin had much more in common than a need to control how people think about history. For one thing, the history books tell us they both devoted enormous resources to the mass slaughter of human beings.

Of course those same history books do not tell us (or at least do not emphasize) that Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon were never held to account for devoting enormous resources to the destruction of Indochina and the mass slaughter of human beings there.

Maybe Khruschev was wrong about historians being dangerous when they are mostly pussycats, after all.

[Brendan Slattery]

One part of this ridiculous rant caught my eye.

Why scrutinize the anti-democratic and corrupt reigns of Castro, Assad, Putin and the Palestinian Authority when you can ascribe crazy, sinister motivations to an innocent collegiate group like YAF?

And just how is Putin especially anti-democratic and corrupt? Is it because he's Russian? It seems that for some people (including you apparently) the Cold War never ended. Undoubtedly Russia is on the hit list of some very important people; just witness the recent spate of "democratic pro-Western revolutions" (courtesy of the CIA) in eastern European countries backed by Russia and the campaign against Russia coming from certain think-tanks and Soros-funded "non-governmental organizations."

Seriously, try reading a newspaper or surfing the Net sometime:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5167784.stm

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial...-+Op-ed+columns

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories....4857&EDATE=