Ron Ecker Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Lee, I certainly think a scan of one document, for research purposes, out of a folder of notes and manuscripts would fall under the fair use doctrine. Ron Ecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Forman Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Hi Ron. Thanks! Here it is. I took out the addresses. - lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kerrigan Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 No, the tramps are not Hunt or Sturgis. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/infojfk/jfk6/tramps.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter McGuire Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 No, the tramps are not Hunt or Sturgis.http://jfkassassination.net/russ/infojfk/jfk6/tramps.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Bailey Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Obama does not look like Harrelson, Sturgis or Hunt... what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim Dankbaar Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) The tramps were Holt, Harrelson and Rogers. They were NOT Sturgis, Hunt and Carswell. They were NOT Gedney, Doyle and Abrams either. Their story was that they were arrested immediately after the assassination. Within minutes after the shooting. Holt's story was that they were discovered and apprehended from the boxcar at least 1,5 hours AFTER the assassination. If you look at the tramps photos below, you can see that the crowds have dissapeared, and that the shadows have moved from a southern angle to a southwestern diagonal. This means that Holt was right. At least 1.5 hours have have passed. http://jfkmurdersolved.com/images/trampsshot6.BMP http://jfkmurdersolved.com/lois1.htm Compare the shadows with the moment of the assassination. The Elsie Dorman film shows the shadows almost parallel with Houston street in south north direction. On the tramp photos they have turned almost 45 degrees and they have grown much longer, indicating an advance in time of some two hours. The CIA and their disinformation servants can lie all they want against the shadows and laws of the solar system. Edited March 23, 2008 by Wim Dankbaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Bailey Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 On November 22, 1993 during the afternoon hours, I took photos of myself to test the shadow length at 12:30, 1:30, 2:30 and 3:30. The 2:30 picture is the closest match of shadow length in the 3 Tramps photos. Wim, Hunt was the oldman tramp. hunt = hOLt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Weaver Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) The tramps were Holt, Harrelson and Rogers. They were NOT Sturgis, Hunt and Carswell. They were NOT Gedney, Doyle and Abrams either. Their story was that they were arrested immediately after the assassination. Within minutes after the shooting. Holt's story was that they were discovered and apprehended from the boxcar at least 1,5 hours AFTER the assassination. If you look at the tramps photos below, you can see that the crowds have dissapeared, and that the shadows have moved from a southern angle to a southwestern diagonal. This means that Holt was right. At least 1.5 hours have have passed. http://jfkmurdersolved.com/images/trampsshot6.BMP http://jfkmurdersolved.com/lois1.htm Compare the shadows with the moment of the assassination. The Elsie Dorman film shows the shadows almost parallel with Houston street in south north direction. On the tramp photos they have turned almost 45 degrees and they have grown much longer, indicating an advance in time of some two hours. The CIA and their disinformation servants can lie all they want against the shadows and laws of the solar system. Quote Loise Gibson Chauncey Holt is on the left. This is a photograph I took of him in approximately 1992. He would have been 41 or 42 at the day of the assassination and on the left he is in his sixties. Every single feature on that man's face is ... to the best of my ability, considering the lapse in time, I must say is identical. end of quote Source: http://jfkmurdersolved.com/lois3.htm Quote Chauncey Marvin Holt: Just prior to the time we were “detained” in Dallas, I had suffered a nose bleed and had stuffed my nostrils with cotton. This distorted my features to a certain extent. My face was further distorted—deliberately—by placing tissue paper under my upper lip. end of quote Source: http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v3n2/v3n2holt.pdf Page 24 Wim, did you ask Lois Gibson in the meantime, if she knew at the time of her expertise about Holt having had stuffed cotton up his nose, and having had tissue paper under his upper lip, in order to disguise his facial appearance. Does she know about that now ? Edited March 24, 2008 by Dave Weaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 My face was further distorted—deliberately—by placing tissue paper undermy upper lip. Something tells me that Holt saw Marlon Brando in "The Godfather" (his cheeks stuffed with tissue paper). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim Dankbaar Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) Anyone can see that this man is not Howard Hunt. Hunt was also taller and did not walk with his feet outward, like Holt and the tramp. The ears of Hunt are no match at all. Those who knew Holt recognise this picture positively as Holt up to the squeezed eyes and the ears. Edited March 25, 2008 by Wim Dankbaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Anyone can see that this man is Howard Hunt. Hunt was also taller and did not walk with his feet outward, like Holt and the tramp. The ears of Hunt are no match at all. Those who knew Holt recognise this picture positively as Holt up to the squeezed eyes and the ears. [...] _________________________________________ Wim, I think you meant to say, "Anyone can see that this man is not Howard Hunt." Yes? --Thomas _________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim Dankbaar Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Wim, I think you meant to say, "Anyone can see that this man is not Howard Hunt." Yes? --Thomas Indeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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