Frank Agbat Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 So, that's approximately 0.007 seconds after 313 for 23. That matches my estimate, using graphics, of 2/10ths of a frame time between the two, or about 0.01 seconds. Very good. We have a benchmark at 35-325. Too optimistic? Perhaps it can confidently be stretched from 312-22 to 325-35. _____________ John, Measured in "Zapruder Frames" Z312 precedes NS22 by 0.140541 frames. Z313 precedes NS23 by 0.129730 "Zapruder frames" I think it is safe to call Z325/NS35 a benchmark point. We should also look in to how constant the frame-rate of a wind-up camera holds as the spring unwinds. While it seems obvious that Z325=NS35 and the observed results seem to align with the math, it would be good to know if the assumption of decently constant framerate is appropriate. I think it is a reasonable time to start looking at the Muchmore sequence as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) The following sequence is from the NFV/Groden DVD's Nix film. The sequence is the NS21 - NS24 headshot area, and has been optically zoomed. Please notice the skull-shape distortion in NS22. This is why I am currently of the opinion that this is the true headshot frame in the Nix film. The alleged skull distortion may be little more than sunlight reflecting off the hair. The first sign that I see of cranial fluid being released is the darkened area near the President's head. Bill Miller Edited January 14, 2007 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Ok, Frank If you look at the strip on the right of the image (two [pages back) you can see that I put in an error margin as far as the NIx placement goes in the form of a blurred outline of the Nix lines. Also I think (as you seem to also) that 34-324is a close match. Either way within error margin there is confirmation on the placement of 23-313. Before moving on with Muchmore, I'd like to thoroughly thrash this conclusion, and to see whether in adopting it, anomalies stand out. For 22 to be showing the headshot it must have started showing moments before. Therefore it may show in 312. If it doesn't at all, then we have pinned down the moment of the bullet strike to a matter of milliseconds. And further, we have then a fixed point from which one can deduce the moment when one should look for things like muzzleflashes and to correlate ear witnessings. As an aid to understanding the timeframe and mechanics of a bullet going from one medium to a denser one here's a clip. Max to full screen to read text. ( I made this a year ago, but it's relevant, even more so now) This covers a time frame of 0.013 seconds or about 1/4 the time between frames. Edited December 18, 2006 by John Dolva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Ok, Frank If you look at the strip on the right of the image (two [pages back) you can see that I put in an error margin as far as the NIx placement goes in the form of a blurred outline of the Nix lines. Also I think (as you seem to also) that 34-324is a close match. Either way within error margin there is confirmation on the placement of 23-313. Let's see if we can simplify what it is that we are talking about. I will be doing this in my head, so expect a small degree of error ...... If a bullet is traveling at 2000 feet per second and the Zapruder film is running at 18 fps, then this means that the bullet was moving at roughly 111 feet per film frame. The field of view in Zapruder's camera doesn't cover 111 feet, but rather only a fraction of that distance. This means that somewhere between the moment that Z312 was exposed to the instant that Z313 was exposed, the bullet has already passed though the film frame's field of view and carried what ever debris along with it. This explains why the bone plate is intact in Z312 and is already extended at the end of its tethered scalp in Z313. Back splatter moves slower and is why so much of it was captured in Z313 while the debris that came out the back of the head was traveling at near the speed of the bullet, which means that Zapruder's camera didn't catch it on film. The Nix camera was exposing frames slightlty faster than Zapruder's camera (possibly because Nix's camera was started out of interval with Zapruder's or because one camera's spring was wound tighter - who knows?) - the pioint is that the debris captured on the Nix film has not expanded to the point it is seen on the Zapruder film, thus the Nix film head shot was exposed a fraction of a film frame sooner than Zapruder's frame 313. Below is a stabilized view of Z311 and Z312. Nowhere can I see a single hair being displaced on JFK's head, nor do I see any immediate reaction to a bullet being driven through the President's skull during these frames. The transfer of energy, such as the shooting of a pool ball into another, is immediate just as the transfer of energy of a bullet breaking through the President's skull would be immediate .... I can find no sign of this before Z313. This means that the fatal bullet struck JFK's head between the exposers of Z312 and Z313 IMO. (The movement seen in the stabilized clip below is due soley on the rotation of the limo as it passed left to right across Zapruder's field of view.) Bill Miller Edited December 18, 2006 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here's a curiosity. The still image here explains what's what in the clip. On one frame which marks the beginning, in the top left corner is a small white head, this is just on one frame and it's the software makers TM so ignore that. At the top to the right of this on the frame 20 there is a bright dot that has faded by 21 and gone on 22. Below this on 21 there are 3 whote dots that are gone by 22. They are curious and explained by 1: a defect, except why does the top one linger for one more frame. 2. something moves behind the pergola and light glints. 3. muzzle flashes. 3 is not very likely IMO The real curiosity occurs halfway down the right side of the image. There are two lighter bars (red) and in between them a darker bar. (blue) Keep your eye on them. See how they seem to move smoothly, changing pitch. Extending the line of this darker bar. It is tracking Kennedy's head, except when Newman s in the way when it jerks a bit and then at the end it quickly in moves off target. This bit is not in this gif, but occurs about 28. Then that area is outside the frame. This image shows the tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 At the top to the right of this on the frame 20 there is a bright dot that has faded by 21 and gone on 22. Below this on 21 there are 3 whote dots that are gone by 22. They are curious and explained by 1: a defect, except why does the top one linger for one more frame. 2. something moves behind the pergola and light glints. 3. muzzle flashes. 3 is not very likely IMO I think we can rule out shooters because not only was the back of the pergola in plain sight from as far east as the TSBD and as far west as the train tower, but the windows are so high of the ground when standing behind the colonnade that an assassin would need a ladder to get high enough in the air to shoot through them. Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Au contraire, Bill. The location is not visible from most of the TSBD and the tree foliage blocks a view from the tower. Also the pergola IS a ladder. Lastly, who knows what was parked there to block views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here's a curiosity.The still image here explains what's what in the clip. On one frame which marks the beginning, in the top left corner is a small white head, this is just on one frame and it's the software makers TM so ignore that. At the top to the right of this on the frame 20 there is a bright dot that has faded by 21 and gone on 22. Below this on 21 there are 3 whote dots that are gone by 22. They are curious and explained by 1: a defect, except why does the top one linger for one more frame. 2. something moves behind the pergola and light glints. 3. muzzle flashes. 3 is not very likely IMO The real curiosity occurs halfway down the right side of the image. There are two lighter bars (red) and in between them a darker bar. (blue) Keep your eye on them. See how they seem to move smoothly, changing pitch. Extending the line of this darker bar. It is tracking Kennedy's head, except when Newman s in the way when it jerks a bit and then at the end it quickly in moves off target. This bit is not in this gif, but occurs about 28. Then that area is outside the frame. This image shows the tracking. It's not such a bad spot. You've got cover from the tree and the curvature of the structure blocks the view from the TSBD and the row of trees and fence blocks the view from the underpass. You could just stand there quietly, not showing anything, pop up acquire shoot and scoot. Maybe even just blend in to the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) What caused me to look there at all? This thread has established the timing of 23 313. This has helped to understand the direction of the fragment trajectory. This led me to theorise what sort of shot could cause that trajectory (of the fragments, which is not in line with any suggested shot directions). So having guessed an area to look at I cropped the frame showing that area and very carefuly aligned them and had a look. The tracking was a surprise. Now thinking about it and seeing how sheltered the area is, it neatly explains the direction the fragments take. ___________ other previous observations come to mind. "It's not such a bad spot. You've got cover from the tree and the curvature of the structure blocks the view from the TSBD and the row of trees and fence blocks the view from the underpass. You could just stand there quietly, not showing anything, pop up acquire shoot and scoot. Maybe even just blend in to the crowd." This policeman with a long coat and the woman who was in the pergola, now walking towards Bell. How many police with long dark coats were in the plaza? Who is he? Could he be the assassin? Edited December 19, 2006 by John Dolva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) "It's not such a bad spot. You've got cover from the tree and the curvature of the structure blocks the view from the TSBD and the row of trees and fence blocks the view from the underpass. You could just stand there quietly, not showing anything, pop up acquire shoot and scoot. Maybe even just blend in to the crowd." Maybe the view would be blocked by trees if someone were looking out of one of the upper floors of he TSBD, but I was talking about all the people in and around that building who were on foot. And like I said before - one would need a ladder to reach that elevation. What was behind the pergola you ask ... the Nix film shows it to be the RR car sitting back in the RR yard .... I think that photo of the RR car is on or about page 350 - 359 of Trask book "Pictures of the Pain". It would also be work getting Trask other book called "That Day in Dallas" for it shows the view behind the colonnade and how high those windows were off the ground. This policeman with a long coat and the woman who was in the pergola, now walking towards Bell. How many police with long dark coats were in the plaza? Who is he? Could he be the assassin? The woman is in a dress, but it is not Sitzman who was the woman who was walking into the shelter immediately following the assassination. Bill Miller Edited December 19, 2006 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here's a curiosity.The still image here explains what's what in the clip. On one frame which marks the beginning, in the top left corner is a small white head, this is just on one frame and it's the software makers TM so ignore that. At the top to the right of this on the frame 20 there is a bright dot that has faded by 21 and gone on 22. Below this on 21 there are 3 whote dots that are gone by 22. They are curious and explained by 1: a defect, except why does the top one linger for one more frame. 2. something moves behind the pergola and light glints. 3. muzzle flashes. 3 is not very likely IMO The real curiosity occurs halfway down the right side of the image. There are two lighter bars (red) and in between them a darker bar. (blue) Keep your eye on them. See how they seem to move smoothly, changing pitch. Extending the line of this darker bar. It is tracking Kennedy's head, except when Newman s in the way when it jerks a bit and then at the end it quickly in moves off target. This bit is not in this gif, but occurs about 28. Then that area is outside the frame. This image shows the tracking. It's not such a bad spot. You've got cover from the tree and the curvature of the structure blocks the view from the TSBD and the row of trees and fence blocks the view from the underpass. You could just stand there quietly, not showing anything, pop up acquire shoot and scoot. Maybe even just blend in to the crowd. Bill, one could go wild with speculations here. However, I can't imagine where you get the notion a ladder would be needed? The tracking occurs through the second opening. Why? In order to see over the steps down into the street. A tall person or an average sized on a concrete block or a couple of bricks or a low box or something along that line is enough. There are a number of other facts. It's really a matter of what one makes of them. The tracking is there. The four flashes. Defects? Maybe. Curiously they appear just the moment before the headshot22. Further, one lingers for one more frame. Could they be magnesium camera flashes? If so the assassin or his employer will have a set of unique photos secreted away somewhere. Could they be timing markers given they occur just as the shot is made. Could they be signals to across the plaza? One lingering flash immediately followed by three more. Morse code for T- S... or ??? The first people some saw in the parking area was a 'cop'. What better guise to adopt, knowing that the area would shortly be flooded with cops. Then just stroll away, with the rifle under a coat. The 'cop' and lady walk towards Bell. The 'cop', as he approaches Bell, speaks into a mike. He seems careful not to show his face. There is a very brief segment of the 'cop' again. But only his hat. Very large, as he passes very near to Bell. The next Bell sequence is from Harry's office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) Bill, one could go wild with speculations here. Yes, John ... I have noticed the wild speculations and that is why I am trying to give you more information.However, I can't imagine where you get the notion a ladder would be needed? I take it that you have never been behind the colonnade, John. I am not at my office so to be able to post a photo of the back of the colonnade, but I may have a book source that I can post soon so you can see the pictures for yourself. The first people some saw in the parking area was a 'cop'. What better guise to adopt, knowing that the area would shortly be flooded with cops. Then just stroll away, with the rifle under a coat.The 'cop' and lady walk towards Bell. The 'cop', as he approaches Bell, speaks into a mike. He seems careful not to show his face. There could very well have been someone dressed as a cop who particpated in the assassination, but keep in mind that an order went out on the radio to get all available officers into the RR yard to see what just happened up there. I would also like to point out that the cops face is only hidden in shadow because of the angle to the sun and exposer the picture was taken at. In fact, I am certain that the original photo, if lightened, would show the officer's face. It is also worth noting that this microsecond in time when the shutter opened and closed does not necessarily represent the officers intentions. And I'm sure that if you look at some of the opening films taken that day .... you should find some traffic officers around the corner of Main and Houston (possibly Elm and Houston) who were wearing their raincoats because it had been raining earlier when they came on duty. One such officer, possibly the one you show, may be the guy seen over the VP's followup cars trunk behind the spectators. Bill Miller Edited December 19, 2006 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here's a curiosity.The still image here explains what's what in the clip. On one frame which marks the beginning, in the top left corner is a small white head, this is just on one frame and it's the software makers TM so ignore that. At the top to the right of this on the frame 20 there is a bright dot that has faded by 21 and gone on 22. Below this on 21 there are 3 whote dots that are gone by 22. They are curious and explained by 1: a defect, except why does the top one linger for one more frame. 2. something moves behind the pergola and light glints. 3. muzzle flashes. 3 is not very likely IMO The real curiosity occurs halfway down the right side of the image. There are two lighter bars (red) and in between them a darker bar. (blue) Keep your eye on them. See how they seem to move smoothly, changing pitch. Extending the line of this darker bar. It is tracking Kennedy's head, except when Newman s in the way when it jerks a bit and then at the end it quickly in moves off target. This bit is not in this gif, but occurs about 28. Then that area is outside the frame. This image shows the tracking. It's not such a bad spot. You've got cover from the tree and the curvature of the structure blocks the view from the TSBD and the row of trees and fence blocks the view from the underpass. You could just stand there quietly, not showing anything, pop up acquire shoot and scoot. Maybe even just blend in to the crowd. Bill, one could go wild with speculations here. However, I can't imagine where you get the notion a ladder would be needed? The tracking occurs through the second opening. Why? In order to see over the steps down into the street. A tall person or an average sized on a concrete block or a couple of bricks or a low box or something along that line is enough. There are a number of other facts. It's really a matter of what one makes of them. The tracking is there. The four flashes. Defects? Maybe. Curiously they appear just the moment before the headshot22. Further, one lingers for one more frame. Could they be magnesium camera flashes? If so the assassin or his employer will have a set of unique photos secreted away somewhere. Could they be timing markers given they occur just as the shot is made. Could they be signals to across the plaza? One lingering flash immediately followed by three more. Morse code for T- S... or ??? The first people some saw in the parking area was a 'cop'. What better guise to adopt, knowing that the area would shortly be flooded with cops. Then just stroll away, with the rifle under a coat. The 'cop' and lady walk towards Bell. The 'cop', as he approaches Bell, speaks into a mike. He seems careful not to show his face. There is a very brief segment of the 'cop' again. But only his hat. Very large, as he passes very near to Bell. The next Bell sequence is from Harry's office. Bill, you can't post a photo from the rear of that time that shows a laddeer is needed, because it doesn't exist. It's a backlot with junk, finding a rock or a few bricks or an old railaway sleeper would be no problem and would not look out of place. It's not a photo representing a microsecond, it's a frame from a series of photos from a film. The other cops with coats are traffic cops and the coats are not dark. My question was 'how many cops with long dark coats'. This is silly Bill, it reminds me of other times we have discussed things. You refuse to address the meat (ie the tracking) and instead fluff about with the milk, (insistence of ladders as if that somehow is a central theme) and then with odd notions with no backing. Cops with light coats suddenly are the same as one with a dark coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Agbat Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Z-# Time (Z325 ref) NS# Time (NS35 ref) Z vs. Nix Delta time 291 -1.8579234973 1 -1.8378378378 -0.0200856594 292 -1.8032786885 2 -1.7837837838 -0.0194949047 293 -1.7486338798 3 -1.7297297297 -0.0189041501 294 -1.6939890710 4 -1.6756756757 -0.0183133954 295 -1.6393442623 5 -1.6216216216 -0.0177226407 296 -1.5846994536 6 -1.5675675676 -0.0171318860 297 -1.5300546448 7 -1.5135135135 -0.0165411313 298 -1.4754098361 8 -1.4594594595 -0.0159503766 299 -1.4207650273 9 -1.4054054054 -0.0153596219 300 -1.3661202186 10 -1.3513513514 -0.0147688672 301 -1.3114754098 11 -1.2972972973 -0.0141781125 302 -1.2568306011 12 -1.2432432432 -0.0135873578 303 -1.2021857923 13 -1.1891891892 -0.0129966032 304 -1.1475409836 14 -1.1351351351 -0.0124058485 305 -1.0928961749 15 -1.0810810811 -0.0118150938 306 -1.0382513661 16 -1.0270270270 -0.0112243391 307 -0.9836065574 17 -0.9729729730 -0.0106335844 308 -0.9289617486 18 -0.9189189189 -0.0100428297 309 -0.8743169399 19 -0.8648648649 -0.0094520750 310 -0.8196721311 20 -0.8108108108 -0.0088613203 311 -0.7650273224 21 -0.7567567568 -0.0082705656 312 -0.7103825137 22 -0.7027027027 -0.0076798110 313 -0.6557377049 23 -0.6486486486 -0.0070890563 314 -0.6010928962 24 -0.5945945946 -0.0064983016 315 -0.5464480874 25 -0.5405405405 -0.0059075469 316 -0.4918032787 26 -0.4864864865 -0.0053167922 317 -0.4371584699 27 -0.4324324324 -0.0047260375 318 -0.3825136612 28 -0.3783783784 -0.0041352828 319 -0.3278688525 29 -0.3243243243 -0.0035445281 320 -0.2732240437 30 -0.2702702703 -0.0029537734 321 -0.2185792350 31 -0.2162162162 -0.0023630188 322 -0.1639344262 32 -0.1621621622 -0.0017722641 323 -0.1092896175 33 -0.1081081081 -0.0011815094 324 -0.0546448087 34 -0.0540540541 -0.0005907547 325 0.0000000000 35 0.0000000000 0.0000000000 (This is the Z325/NS35 Sync Point) 326 0.0546448087 36 0.0540540541 0.0005907547 327 0.1092896175 37 0.1081081081 0.0011815094 328 0.1639344262 38 0.1621621622 0.0017722641 329 0.2185792350 39 0.2162162162 0.0023630188 330 0.2732240437 40 0.2702702703 0.0029537734 331 0.3278688525 41 0.3243243243 0.0035445281 332 0.3825136612 42 0.3783783784 0.0041352828 333 0.4371584699 43 0.4324324324 0.0047260375 334 0.4918032787 44 0.4864864865 0.0053167922 335 0.5464480874 45 0.5405405405 0.0059075469 336 0.6010928962 46 0.5945945946 0.0064983016 337 0.6557377049 47 0.6486486486 0.0070890563 338 0.7103825137 48 0.7027027027 0.0076798110 339 0.7650273224 49 0.7567567568 0.0082705656 340 0.8196721311 50 0.8108108108 0.0088613203 341 0.8743169399 51 0.8648648649 0.0094520750 342 0.9289617486 52 0.9189189189 0.0100428297 343 0.9836065574 53 0.9729729730 0.0106335844 344 1.0382513661 54 1.0270270270 0.0112243391 345 1.0928961749 55 1.0810810811 0.0118150938 346 1.1475409836 56 1.1351351351 0.0124058485 347 1.2021857923 57 1.1891891892 0.0129966032 348 1.2568306011 58 1.2432432432 0.0135873578 349 1.3114754098 59 1.2972972973 0.0141781125 350 1.3661202186 60 1.3513513514 0.0147688672 351 1.4207650273 61 1.4054054054 0.0153596219 352 1.4754098361 62 1.4594594595 0.0159503766 353 1.5300546448 63 1.5135135135 0.0165411313 354 1.5846994536 64 1.5675675676 0.0171318860 355 1.6393442623 65 1.6216216216 0.0177226407 356 1.6939890710 66 1.6756756757 0.0183133954 357 1.7486338798 67 1.7297297297 0.0189041501 358 1.8032786885 68 1.7837837838 0.0194949047 359 1.8579234973 69 1.8378378378 0.0200856594 360 1.9125683060 70 1.8918918919 0.0206764141 361 1.9672131148 71 1.9459459459 0.0212671688 362 2.0218579235 72 2.0000000000 0.0218579235 363 2.0765027322 73 2.0540540541 0.0224486782 364 2.1311475410 74 2.1081081081 0.0230394329 365 2.1857923497 75 2.1621621622 0.0236301876 366 2.2404371585 76 2.2162162162 0.0242209423 367 2.2950819672 77 2.2702702703 0.0248116969 368 2.3497267760 78 2.3243243243 0.0254024516 369 2.4043715847 79 2.3783783784 0.0259932063 370 2.4590163934 80 2.4324324324 0.0265839610 371 2.5136612022 81 2.4864864865 0.0271747157 372 2.5683060109 82 2.5405405405 0.0277654704 373 2.6229508197 83 2.5945945946 0.0283562251 374 2.6775956284 84 2.6486486486 0.0289469798 375 2.7322404372 85 2.7027027027 0.0295377345 376 2.7868852459 86 2.7567567568 0.0301284891 377 2.8415300546 87 2.8108108108 0.0307192438 378 2.8961748634 88 2.8648648649 0.0313099985 379 2.9508196721 89 2.9189189189 0.0319007532 380 3.0054644809 90 2.9729729730 0.0324915079 381 3.0601092896 91 3.0270270270 0.0330822626 382 3.1147540984 92 3.0810810811 0.0336730173 383 3.1693989071 93 3.1351351351 0.0342637720 384 3.2240437158 94 3.1891891892 0.0348545267 385 3.2786885246 95 3.2432432432 0.0354452813 386 3.3333333333 96 3.2972972973 0.0360360360 387 3.3879781421 97 3.3513513514 0.0366267907 388 3.4426229508 98 3.4054054054 0.0372175454 389 3.4972677596 99 3.4594594595 0.0378083001 390 3.5519125683 100 3.5135135135 0.0383990548 391 3.6065573770 101 3.5675675676 0.0389898095 392 3.6612021858 102 3.6216216216 0.0395805642 393 3.7158469945 103 3.6756756757 0.0401713189 394 3.7704918033 104 3.7297297297 0.0407620735 395 3.8251366120 105 3.7837837838 0.0413528282 396 3.8797814208 106 3.8378378378 0.0419435829 397 3.9344262295 107 3.8918918919 0.0425343376 398 3.9890710383 108 3.9459459459 0.0431250923 399 4.0437158470 109 4.0000000000 0.0437158470 400 4.0983606557 110 4.0540540541 0.0443066017 401 4.1530054645 111 4.1081081081 0.0448973564 402 4.2076502732 112 4.1621621622 0.0454881111 403 4.2622950820 113 4.2162162162 0.0460788658 404 4.3169398907 114 4.2702702703 0.0466696204 405 4.3715846995 115 4.3243243243 0.0472603751 406 4.4262295082 116 4.3783783784 0.0478511298 407 4.4808743169 117 4.4324324324 0.0484418845 408 4.5355191257 118 4.4864864865 0.0490326392 409 4.5901639344 119 4.5405405405 0.0496233939 410 4.6448087432 120 4.5945945946 0.0502141486 411 4.6994535519 121 4.6486486486 0.0508049033 412 4.7540983607 122 4.7027027027 0.0513956580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Z-# Time (Z325 ref) NS# Time (NS35 ref) Z vs. Nix Delta time 291 -1.8579234973 1 -1.8378378378 -0.0200856594 292 -1.8032786885 2 -1.7837837838 -0.0194949047 293 -1.7486338798 3 -1.7297297297 -0.0189041501 294 -1.6939890710 4 -1.6756756757 -0.0183133954 295 -1.6393442623 5 -1.6216216216 -0.0177226407 296 -1.5846994536 6 -1.5675675676 -0.0171318860 297 -1.5300546448 7 -1.5135135135 -0.0165411313 298 -1.4754098361 8 -1.4594594595 -0.0159503766 299 -1.4207650273 9 -1.4054054054 -0.0153596219 300 -1.3661202186 10 -1.3513513514 -0.0147688672 301 -1.3114754098 11 -1.2972972973 -0.0141781125 302 -1.2568306011 12 -1.2432432432 -0.0135873578 303 -1.2021857923 13 -1.1891891892 -0.0129966032 304 -1.1475409836 14 -1.1351351351 -0.0124058485 305 -1.0928961749 15 -1.0810810811 -0.0118150938 306 -1.0382513661 16 -1.0270270270 -0.0112243391 307 -0.9836065574 17 -0.9729729730 -0.0106335844 308 -0.9289617486 18 -0.9189189189 -0.0100428297 309 -0.8743169399 19 -0.8648648649 -0.0094520750 310 -0.8196721311 20 -0.8108108108 -0.0088613203 311 -0.7650273224 21 -0.7567567568 -0.0082705656 312 -0.7103825137 22 -0.7027027027 -0.0076798110 313 -0.6557377049 23 -0.6486486486 -0.0070890563 314 -0.6010928962 24 -0.5945945946 -0.0064983016 315 -0.5464480874 25 -0.5405405405 -0.0059075469 316 -0.4918032787 26 -0.4864864865 -0.0053167922 317 -0.4371584699 27 -0.4324324324 -0.0047260375 318 -0.3825136612 28 -0.3783783784 -0.0041352828 319 -0.3278688525 29 -0.3243243243 -0.0035445281 320 -0.2732240437 30 -0.2702702703 -0.0029537734 321 -0.2185792350 31 -0.2162162162 -0.0023630188 322 -0.1639344262 32 -0.1621621622 -0.0017722641 323 -0.1092896175 33 -0.1081081081 -0.0011815094 324 -0.0546448087 34 -0.0540540541 -0.0005907547 325 0.0000000000 35 0.0000000000 0.0000000000 (This is the Z325/NS35 Sync Point) 326 0.0546448087 36 0.0540540541 0.0005907547 327 0.1092896175 37 0.1081081081 0.0011815094 328 0.1639344262 38 0.1621621622 0.0017722641 329 0.2185792350 39 0.2162162162 0.0023630188 330 0.2732240437 40 0.2702702703 0.0029537734 331 0.3278688525 41 0.3243243243 0.0035445281 332 0.3825136612 42 0.3783783784 0.0041352828 333 0.4371584699 43 0.4324324324 0.0047260375 334 0.4918032787 44 0.4864864865 0.0053167922 335 0.5464480874 45 0.5405405405 0.0059075469 336 0.6010928962 46 0.5945945946 0.0064983016 337 0.6557377049 47 0.6486486486 0.0070890563 338 0.7103825137 48 0.7027027027 0.0076798110 339 0.7650273224 49 0.7567567568 0.0082705656 340 0.8196721311 50 0.8108108108 0.0088613203 341 0.8743169399 51 0.8648648649 0.0094520750 342 0.9289617486 52 0.9189189189 0.0100428297 343 0.9836065574 53 0.9729729730 0.0106335844 344 1.0382513661 54 1.0270270270 0.0112243391 345 1.0928961749 55 1.0810810811 0.0118150938 346 1.1475409836 56 1.1351351351 0.0124058485 347 1.2021857923 57 1.1891891892 0.0129966032 348 1.2568306011 58 1.2432432432 0.0135873578 349 1.3114754098 59 1.2972972973 0.0141781125 350 1.3661202186 60 1.3513513514 0.0147688672 351 1.4207650273 61 1.4054054054 0.0153596219 352 1.4754098361 62 1.4594594595 0.0159503766 353 1.5300546448 63 1.5135135135 0.0165411313 354 1.5846994536 64 1.5675675676 0.0171318860 355 1.6393442623 65 1.6216216216 0.0177226407 356 1.6939890710 66 1.6756756757 0.0183133954 357 1.7486338798 67 1.7297297297 0.0189041501 358 1.8032786885 68 1.7837837838 0.0194949047 359 1.8579234973 69 1.8378378378 0.0200856594 360 1.9125683060 70 1.8918918919 0.0206764141 361 1.9672131148 71 1.9459459459 0.0212671688 362 2.0218579235 72 2.0000000000 0.0218579235 363 2.0765027322 73 2.0540540541 0.0224486782 364 2.1311475410 74 2.1081081081 0.0230394329 365 2.1857923497 75 2.1621621622 0.0236301876 366 2.2404371585 76 2.2162162162 0.0242209423 367 2.2950819672 77 2.2702702703 0.0248116969 368 2.3497267760 78 2.3243243243 0.0254024516 369 2.4043715847 79 2.3783783784 0.0259932063 370 2.4590163934 80 2.4324324324 0.0265839610 371 2.5136612022 81 2.4864864865 0.0271747157 372 2.5683060109 82 2.5405405405 0.0277654704 373 2.6229508197 83 2.5945945946 0.0283562251 374 2.6775956284 84 2.6486486486 0.0289469798 375 2.7322404372 85 2.7027027027 0.0295377345 376 2.7868852459 86 2.7567567568 0.0301284891 377 2.8415300546 87 2.8108108108 0.0307192438 378 2.8961748634 88 2.8648648649 0.0313099985 379 2.9508196721 89 2.9189189189 0.0319007532 380 3.0054644809 90 2.9729729730 0.0324915079 381 3.0601092896 91 3.0270270270 0.0330822626 382 3.1147540984 92 3.0810810811 0.0336730173 383 3.1693989071 93 3.1351351351 0.0342637720 384 3.2240437158 94 3.1891891892 0.0348545267 385 3.2786885246 95 3.2432432432 0.0354452813 386 3.3333333333 96 3.2972972973 0.0360360360 387 3.3879781421 97 3.3513513514 0.0366267907 388 3.4426229508 98 3.4054054054 0.0372175454 389 3.4972677596 99 3.4594594595 0.0378083001 390 3.5519125683 100 3.5135135135 0.0383990548 391 3.6065573770 101 3.5675675676 0.0389898095 392 3.6612021858 102 3.6216216216 0.0395805642 393 3.7158469945 103 3.6756756757 0.0401713189 394 3.7704918033 104 3.7297297297 0.0407620735 395 3.8251366120 105 3.7837837838 0.0413528282 396 3.8797814208 106 3.8378378378 0.0419435829 397 3.9344262295 107 3.8918918919 0.0425343376 398 3.9890710383 108 3.9459459459 0.0431250923 399 4.0437158470 109 4.0000000000 0.0437158470 400 4.0983606557 110 4.0540540541 0.0443066017 401 4.1530054645 111 4.1081081081 0.0448973564 402 4.2076502732 112 4.1621621622 0.0454881111 403 4.2622950820 113 4.2162162162 0.0460788658 404 4.3169398907 114 4.2702702703 0.0466696204 405 4.3715846995 115 4.3243243243 0.0472603751 406 4.4262295082 116 4.3783783784 0.0478511298 407 4.4808743169 117 4.4324324324 0.0484418845 408 4.5355191257 118 4.4864864865 0.0490326392 409 4.5901639344 119 4.5405405405 0.0496233939 410 4.6448087432 120 4.5945945946 0.0502141486 411 4.6994535519 121 4.6486486486 0.0508049033 412 4.7540983607 122 4.7027027027 0.0513956580 Nice work Frank! I am assuming that this tells us what "should" be the correlating film frames. Now, what would be the possibility of determination of additional visually confirmed "sync points" between frames of the Z-film and frames of the Nix film. Preferably some 1-second or so (minimum) prior to the Z325/N35 point as well as another point a minimum of 1-second after the Z325/N35 point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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