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In their book, Double Cross (1992), Charles and Sam Giancana (Sam's half-brother and nephew) argue that Richard Cain, along with Charlie Nicoletti, were the two gunman who killed President John F. Kennedy. The authors claim that it was Cain, rather than Lee Harvey Oswald, who fired from the 6th Floor of the Texas Book Depository.

In 1996 Eric Hamburg claimed that Cain worked with Dave Yarras and Lenny Patrick in the assassination of Kennedy in Dallas. This statement was based on information obtained from Claudia Furiati, a Brazilian journalist. Later that year Peter Dale Scott suggested that Cain was implicated in the assassination as a result of his links with Johnny Roselli and John Martino.

However, these writers have failed to put forward any reliable evidence that Cain was in Dealey Plaza on 22nd November, 1963.

Richard Cain was murdered in 1973. Since then researchers such as Larry Hancock and Michael Cain (Richard's younger brother), have investigated the case and have been unable to find any evidence that shows Richard Cain was involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Does anyone else have information on Richard Cain’s involvement in this case?

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John, I don't know that I've posted on Cain here before - Lancer forum participants can probably save the time of reading this though.

At this point there are a good number of CIA, FBI and Chicago PD documents available on Cain which give an view into his Cain's politics and activities including his attempts to provide information to the CIA (which were declined) and to the FBI and CPD (where he was used as an informant, particularly on Cuban exile activities in Chicago). He had clearly been working with exiles on the NE side of Chicago from the early days after the Castro victory all the way through the genisis of the Sierra organization (he was reporting on that to the FBI in 1963 and even associated Roselli with it). On the other hand as far as I can tell thre is no concrete evidence that he was a praciticed or skilled marksman (which his half brother confirmed to us in comments last November in Dallas), a trainer of Cuban exiles military or a shooter in Dallas. Personally I have a real problem matching him to the description given by Carr because I have a real problem with the detail Carr relates given his distance. In my view Carr's statement on this individual is as open to question as Brennan's description of the expression on the face of the man in the 'snipers nest'.

On the other hand there is some very suggestive information including that provided by his brother that Cain was used as an asset in the very earliest Giancana organized assassination plot against Castro...operating through Miami with a cover as a newsman and then on into Cuba. It's also clear that the connections and associations Cain had earlier developed while trying to start an intelligence/security company in Mexico were of value to Giancana when he left Chicago to pursue opportunities outside the U.S. Going to Mexico City with Cain made a lot of sense for Giancana.

Beyond that, I'm eagerly awaiting his brothers book.

-- Larry

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(34) Richard Randolph Carr stated to the FBI on January 4, 1964, that he saw a man looking out of a window on the top floor of the depository a few minutes before Carr heard shots.(99) He described the man as white, wearing a hat, tan sport coat and GLASSES.(100) He said that at the time of the motorcade, he was standing on about the sixth floor of the new courthouse which was under construction at Houston and Commerce Streets.(101) Carr said that from that spot he could only see the top floor and roof of the depository building.(102) It was from that location that he observed the man in the depository window.(103) Carr said that after the shots he was going toward the direction of the triple underpass; when he got to the intersection of Houston and Commerce Streets, he saw a man whom he believed to be the same individual he had seen in the window of the depository.(104)

(35) Carr was not called to testify before the Warren Commission. He did testify on February 19, 1969 in the Parish County Criminal District Court in New Orleans in State of Louisiana v. Clay L. Shaw, a case involving charges of conspiring to assassinate President Kennedy. According to the transcript of his testimony, Carr stated that he saw the man in the fifth floor window of the Texas School Book Depository.(105) He said he later saw the man going down Houston Street; turning at Commerce Street.(106) Carr also described the hat worn by the man as felt and said his glasses were HEAVY - RIMMED with heavy ear pieces.(107) He had on a tie and a tan sport coat.(108) As the man ran, he was continually looking over his shoulder as though he was being followed.(109)

(36) During his testimony at the Clay Shaw trial, Carr also reported seeing men in Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination who were not mentioned in the report of his FBI interview in January 1964. Carr was asked during the Shaw trial if he noticed any movement after the shots which seemed "unusual."(110) Carr then said that he saw a Rambler station wagon with a rack on top parked on the wrong side of the street, heading north and facing in the direction of the railroad tracks, next to the depository.(111)

(37) Carr said that immediately after the shots he saw three men emerge from behind the depository and enter the station wagon.(112) He gave a description of one of them: he was "real dark-complected" and appeared to be Spanish or Cuban; he drove the car away, going north on Houston Street.(113)

(38) During the Shaw trial testimony, Carr said he had reported this information to law enforcement officers and that someone had told him not to repeat this information.(114) At that point, defense counsel objected to hearsay by carr, and no further details were elicited about the reported coercion of Carr, other than his statement that he did what the FBI told him to do, "I shut my mouth."(115)

(39) Committee investigators did not locate Richard Carr to discuss this information with him.

Now compare this with Giancana in Double Cross (page 466):


From Chicago, Mooney brought in Richard Cain, Chuckie Nicoletti, and Milwaukee Phil, all having worked previously on "the Bay of Pigs deal". Mooney said that both Cain and Nicoletti were actual gunmen for the hit, being placed at opposite ends of the Dallas Book Depository, In fact, he asserted it was Cain, not Oswald who'd actaully fired from the infamous sixth story window.

(Giancana does not have the details strait on placing Nicoletti, but after all, he was not there)

James Files being asked about people who were on Dealey Plaza November 22 1963:

Richard Cain?


Milwaukee Phil Alderisio?

"Some of these people are still alive....yes, he was there."

Have a look at Richard Cain:



Shallow mended his fences with the Police Department and was later promoted to sergeant, incredible as it may seem. “Between the two of them they decided Shallow should take the rap and admit to it and Cain should play hard nose,” Newey said. “He was planning to leave the department anyway and go down to Florida and work the Bay of Pigs operation for the CIA. The contract was not with Richard Cain directly - but between the U.S. Government and Sam Giancana.”

Cain was a vassal of Giancana and Giancana was in bed with the Kennedys who were on a mission to rid Cuba of Fidel Castro. Under orders from the Chicago mob boss, Cain opened an office at Rush and Oak, where he recruited Cuban insurgents and soldiers of fortune to go down to South Florida to train as guerilla warriors - a black bag assignment, perfect for one such as Cain.

It is personally troubling to Paul Newey even to this day, but he continues his efforts to flesh out the real truth behind the man and the myth that is Richard Cain - including persistent rumors that this Chicago mob-cop may have participated in the planning of the Kennedy assassination.


By this time Paul Newey had opened a private detective agency and correspondence school for aspiring investigators. He lost touch with Richard Cain and was enjoying an uneventful retirement until early Spring of 1961 when plans for the Bay of Pigs operation were unfolding and training bases established in Florida, Louisiana and Mexico.

"The next thing I know, I see Cain on LaSalle Street. He says to me, Paul, I'm training Cuban commandos for the CIA."

Assigned to the Glenview Naval Air Station where the CIA maintained a secret hangar and airstrip, Cain, who was learning to live with lesser ambitions, allegedly babysat exiled Cuban fighter pilots who were flying secret missions over Cuba in American B-29s. The story seems rather far-fetched in hindsight, but anything was possible during the Cold War era.

Fluent in Italian and Spanish, Cain parlayed his earlier acquaintance with Paul Newey and his CIA contacts into a part-time job without first telling Newey.

The Washington spymasters who hatched the Bay of Pigs Operation, believed Cain could be of some use because of his close association with Chicago mobsters who had a stake in the Havana casinos during the long and feudalistic regime of the corrupt Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista.

Jack Mabley, who doubled as president of the Village Board of Glenview from 1957-1961, helped Cain find a place to live in a small Glenview subdivision known as Countryside, but Mabley is among a legion of skeptics who doubt the validity of these far-reaching allegations. Mabley contends he knew nothing about Cain's work for the Cubans or the CIA. "I have no idea how Cain got involved with the CIA," Mabley said.


Someone from the floor offered that in Giancanna's book "Double Cross" Richard Cain is named as one of the shooters. Peter pointed out that the book came out long after Richard Cain was dead so he couldn't sue for libel. Peter feels the authors "cripped" from one of his books which is why he didn't buy it at first. Peter does not think that Richard Cain was a shooter and that the book "Double Cross" could help to explain the periphery of the case but not the center.

Peter spoke of a very senior DEA informant that said that the same people who killed Jimmy Hoffa were the ones who killed John F. Kennedy. Sam Giancana's daughter said roughly the same thing. Peter thinks that the more we explore the convergence the more we will see not a CIA-Mexico connection but a Mexico City-Chicago connection. Richard Cain was certainly a top level informant for the FBI on Chicago. Someone from the floor said he was also a hitman which Peter agreed to. Peter explained that the man Cain reported to was the Chicago FBI man, William Rommer (sic?) who told Gerald Posner that Ruby had nothing to do with the mob.

"Richard Cain and William Rommer were extremely close, and I am not suggesting that William Rommer was mob corrupted, in the sense that he was on the take or anything, he got a lot of information about the mob from Richard Cain and the price he paid to get the information was to protect Richard Cain's people. You cannot deduce from that that Ruby was one of those people but you can see the trouble that you get into. This is what I call "Deep Politics", you see?"


Many on Oswald in Russia, and more than you would want to know, (almost) on Oswald in Mexico City. The Mexican secret police, the DFS, is mentioned repeatedly in those documents. He thinks that the person we think of as Oswald never went to Mexico at all. By knowing more about the DFS, we learn more about the case. It is not a distraction. Drug running in Mexico is a subject that ties Ruby and Sam Giancana together, as an example. Ruby's drug running through Mexico to Chicago goes back to the 40's. Neither one ever convicted of drug running. Three people from the mob who knew each other through the CIA were John Roselli, John Martino and Richard Cain and they are very interesting. They are involved in intelligence operations disguised as journalistic investigations paid by LIFE magazine. This was a reference to the Bayo-Pawley affair. (See the "Fish is Red" p. 164-173, the authors, Turner and Hinkle on p. 167 refer to this as as, "The Founder (Henry Luce of LIFE) was taking his gremlins beyond the familiar world of checkbook journalism into the nether reaches of paramilitary journalism.")


a) The three mob figures.

Richard Cain, John Roselli, and John Martino were all close, through both their mob connections and their work for the CIA. All three of them later professed knowledge about the assassination. In 1963 the CIA recruited Richard Cain to spy on a Cuban in Chicago, Paulino Sierra, whom the CIA rightly suspected was recruiting Cuban exiles they mistrusted for an operation sponsored by Robert Kennedy. Meanwhile John Martino (who before he died claimed knowledge of a plot involving Oswald) was involved with Miami CIA elements in an operation designed to frustrate Kennedy's Soviet policies, and possibly to set up the Rosselli "turn-around" story, blaming the Kennedy assassination on a team recruited to kill Castro. Two and possibly three of the future Watergate burglars were also collecting dirt (including false stories) on Paulino Sierra for the CIA. These false stories may explain why Bobby Kennedy, on November 22, told Paulino Sierra's boss (Harry Ruiz-Williams), "one of your boys did it." (We now know that Bobby Kennedy's staff reacted strongly to the first publication of the Rosselli turn-around story.)


I'd just like to mention some specific points in trying to be helpful and put some new information on the record which has not been made public to my knowledge. Specifically General Escalante has stated in interviews conducted for the book ZR Rifle by Claudia Furiati, a Brazilian journalist, that he believes two Cuban exiles, Alatio DeValle and Herminio Diaz Garcia, took part in the assassination in Dallas. He told me that this was based on informant reports by Cuban sources which are in their files. He also named three Chicago mafia figures, Dave Yaras, Lenny Patrick and Richard Cain, which he believes were in Dallas and also involved in the plot. Again this is based, he says, on their informant reports. It would be very important to retain any documents which Cuba could provide to substantiate these claims, and he did show me files of such documents. But I did not retain copies of them. I am not an official representative of the U.S. Government, but they do exist.


Twenty years ago Giancana inherited Al Capone’s crime syndicate, took his place at the head of an underground army of Chicago racketeers and made millions by trafficking in drugs and running gambling dens and brothels. Eventually he decided to retire and to hand over the business to younger successors, thereby satisfying their thirst for power and money. Yet even after retirement, he lived in his “citadel” in constant fear of retribution. But not retribution at the hands of the mafia.

The point is that in December 1973 his personal bodyguard Richard Cain let it slip in a bar in the hearing of outsiders that he and his chief had had something to do with an international conspiracy and a political murder on an assignment from the CIA. Exactly 24 hours later two masked men walked into the same bar, ordered everyone at gunpoint to line up face against the wall, singled out Cain, shoved a gun barrel in his mouth and silenced him for good.


Giancana's sidekick, Richard Cain, travelled all over the world for him, mostly setting up casinos. Now casinos and drugs go together. Couriers go from casino to casino, they handle the drugs, and the money can be laundered by being bet and lost on a roulette wheel. So it's a pretty common symbiosis, whether it's Lebanon or Havana or Las Vegas.


A: I've always argued that Ruby was a much more important person. The house committee admitted that, yes, he was a mob figure but he was a two-bit punk or that sort of thing. But he was a police connection, and that's a very important part of mob activity. The reason the mob's so powerful in Chicago is they've always had someone like {master wiretapper} Richard Cain who was a policeman, once head of investigations for the Sheriff of Cook County. In other words, he was a senior law enforcement official, there but he was also a made member of the mob and very close to Giancana. He was also a top, top informant for William Roemer, who was the FBI's chief mob man in Chicago, and Cain was one of Roemer's best friends.


Other people who have professed or have had assassination investigators claim they fired shots that hit the President include Charles Nicoletti, Lucien Sarti, Sauveur Pironti, R. Bocognoni, William Greer, Jack Lawrence, Richard Cain, Valeri Kosikyan, John Rogers, Dave Yaras, Lenny Patrick, R. Gaines, Herminio Diaz, Eladio del Valle and Jack Ruby


Escalante: He may not have left through official means through Immigration. If he had a yacht he may have just up and left. What is certain is that he left in 1960. Cuban authorities did create the expulsion of Santos Trafficante. At that time Santos Trafficante was staying in the Hotel Havana Riviera. Trafficante managed several casinos in Havana that had by that point been closed. He was tied to two Cubans who played a very important role in this--Senior Daniel Hernandez Ortega (?); he was a manager of Trafficante's in a gambling casino in Havana called Sans Souci. During 1960, Santos Trafficante also had a Cuban bodyguard. His name was Herminio Diaz Garcia. We will talk about later. ...Hernandez met and talked with Richard Cain in December of 1960 regarding a plot against the life of Fidel Castro.

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Well William, I surely wouldn't dispute the problems with gathering hard evidence; I still need to see a) some evidence that Cain was skilled with a rifle and had been practicing enough in 1963 to have passable skills, the same thing I would need to see for Roselli.

Aside from that though, I'm very open to the Diaz Garcia connection with Cain early on, I think there is some very good evidence to tie Diaz Garcia to the Dallas plot - as I elaborate in my book - and I would love to see anything concrete you have on the early Garcia/Cain meeting and any association after that. In fact I'd love to see any details that you might have on Garcia in 1963.

As to Carr and his observation, I'm afraid that his report or any other commentary about it has to face up to the reality of what can be observed from the site he claimed; if you or anyone else can go to Dallas and confirm that by actual experiement I would be the first to jump in line to use Carr as a data point. So far what I've done on the ground in Dallas just doesn't allow me to do so.

-- Larry

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Well William, I surely wouldn't dispute the problems with gathering hard evidence; I still need to see a) some evidence that Cain was skilled with a rifle and had been practicing enough in 1963 to have passable skills, the same thing I would need to see for Roselli.

Well, I think it would be equally hard to find such evidence for Charles Nicoletti, other than that he was a killer and a hitman for Sam Giancana, as most of his trusted underlings were. FWIW, Martin Shackelford calls Cain a "hitman" here:

From: mshack@juno.com (Martin R Shackelford)

Subject: COPA

Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:11:20 EDT

"In the Panel on JFK and Castro, Peter Dale Scott discussed

Paulino Sierra Martinez of Chicago, his ties of RFK ally Harry Williams,

Howard Hunt, James McCord, Alpha 66, Bernard Barker, Carlos Prio, John

Martino and the Minutemen; some, including Frank Sturgis, were reporting

on the group to the CIA. Hitman Richard Cain was promised a career in the

CIA if he provided information on Sierra's group. Mario Garcia Kohly

(see Robert Morrow's books) was backed by Meyer Lansky. The U.S.

government protested Castro's deportation of Jake Lansky. The DRE bought

guns from John Masen in Dallas.

During the Topic Research Group on Oswald, a participant

indicated that David Ferrie sent his CAP cadets to Tulane University for

mind control experiments. The New York Branch of CAP was founded by Cord

Meyers Sr, father of the CIA official. "

Aside from that though, I'm very open to the Diaz Garcia connection with Cain early on, I think there is some very good evidence to tie Diaz Garcia to the Dallas plot - as I elaborate in my book - and I would love to see anything concrete you have on the early Garcia/Cain meeting and any association after that. In fact I'd love to see any details that you might have on Garcia in 1963.

The source for that is General Fabian Escalante, who was the head of Cuban State Security, so I gather his sources are Cuban intelligence files. He is widely respected as a source.

As to Carr and his observation, I'm afraid that his report or any other commentary about it has to face up to the reality of what can be observed from the site he claimed; if you or anyone else can go to Dallas and confirm that by actual experiement I would be the first to jump in line to use Carr as a data point. So far what I've done on the ground in Dallas just doesn't allow me to do so.

On this picture


you can see the construction site. Carr said that he could only see the upper floors of the TSBD., which is entirely consistent with this picture as the other buildings would obstruct his view to the lower floors. Maybe it was Cain shooting with the Mannlicher Carcano.

I have read once that the tip on the afternoon of the assassination that Oswald had bought the rifle from Klein's Sporting Goods, came form the Sheriff's office in Cook County in Chaicago, where Cain worked. I cant find the article anymore. Çonfirmation of this is appreciated.

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Hi William, here goes:

1) Martin may call Cain a hitman, I would be interested in specifics of any murders linked to him; in any case that would still not necessarily qualify him as a skilled rifle class marksman which he would need to be as a DP shooter.

2) I'm familiar with Escalante as a source and with his remarks on Diaz Garcia, I was not aware of any specific remarks he made about a Cain/Garcia meeting and will go back to look for that...thanks. Actually I would find that very consistent though in that both men are very reasonable candidates for the first Roselli organized Castro attempt. Putting them together in 63 would be another story though, we have data on Garcia then which puts him in the right places with the right people...I'd like to see something on Cains movements in 63.

3) That's a good photo showing the construction site, problem is that is is a very long way to make out facial details including glasses in a person looking out a window several blocks away; as I said, I've gone there by myself and with others and just don't find that level of detail believable although I really would like to have Carr as a data point. I'd like to see further work trying to duplicate all of Carr's observations done in DP, it deserves some real field work.

-- Larry

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Richard Cain my well have been in a good "position" to have been selected, but he possessed niether the skill nor the vision to carry it out. I can't claim he's been maligned unfairly, he certainly was no angel, but in the hundreds of interviews I've conducted with friends and enemies of Richard, no one seemed to credit him with exceptional marksmanship.

What I see here is people reaching for ways to prove a conclusion rather than trying to reach the truth. Richard never worked for the CIA, though he surely tried. I have copies of the reports he prepared for them in Miami as well as their internal memos leading them to a decision to decline his assistance. Remember that at the time of the Castro plots (late 1960) Richard had recently been forced to resign from the Chicago Police Department and was marginally credible because of that. He had recently been introduced to the Chicago Station Chief by Paul Newey. Newey was responsible for the trouble that led to his resignation and by his own admission (to me) he felt responsible and wanted to help. Newey had been OSS during the war and kept up with his old buddies as best he could.

Richard danced around that relationship and tried, while he was with the Sheriff's dept (62-64) to solidify it, but was rebuffed.

Most of what I've read begins with speculation and winds up offering that speculation as proof. It really doesn't wash. That said, I would be willing to work with any serious researcher to validate any hard evidence they might possess.


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Found this interesting when you stack the dates...4 years of house cleaning.

Richard Cain -- Dec. 20, 1973. A third gunman was stationed outside the shop communicating with a walkie talkie on guard for a potential surprise police bust. If he was a participant, that would be poetic justice.

Sam Giancana -- June 19, 1975....fled country for eight years...why?

Jimmy Hoffa - July 30, 1975 - never found. I don't know if there has been any results of the DNA tests that were allegedy performed on the stained floorbaords in the Detroit suburban home where it has recently been alleged he was killed, by Frank Sheeran, in the book, "I heard you paint houses?"

Johnny Roselli - July, 1976. As per the rhetoric in Ragano's book, assuming the body was not meant to be found, this type of death was reserved for serious infractions, as the family would not collect insurance, the grave would be empty, etc.

Charles Nicoletti - March 29th, 1977, murdered in Chicago, dies same day as George De Mohrenschildt.

Who was the cleaner? Trafficante and Marcello? Or someone new in Chicago? Using cuban muscle?

- lee

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Is the description of Richard's murder in Double Cross accurate? If so, up to the details of the white and black gloves?

Do you have any inkling as to the motive of his murder?

Is there a provable alibi for 11/22/1963?


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There isn't much in Double Cross that I would characterize as accurate, especially the speculation about the white hand/black hand - you'll have to wait for my book to see that finally explained.

I believe Dick was killed because he represented a threat to the mob leadership of the day. He'd been having some territorial disputes with Marshal Caifano and that led to concerns about his future plans. He certainly held Caifano in low regard, that didn't help.

No, there is no provabel alibi. I've been told he was in Miami that day, but so far I've been unable to substantiate it.



Is the description of Richard's murder in Double Cross accurate? If so, up to the details of the white and black gloves?

Do you have any inkling as to the motive of his murder?

Is there a provable alibi for 11/22/1963?


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Thanks. Did Richard do military service? Is there anything known from that about how he ranked as a shooter?

Does the thought that he may have been a shooter in the Kennedy assassination trouble you? Or do you have no problem with that?

Did you know that Files and Caifano were friends and they spent time in jail together?


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Gary, almost immediately after the assassination Richard went to the local Chicago FBI office with information he requested they share with the CIA. He became very frustrated because they refused to do anything with it.

His information was the Oswald had come to Chicago in early 1963 to meet with a chapter of the FPCC there which had fallen under control of Chinese Communist followers. While in Chicago Oswald obtained the rifle used in the assassination.

This was a pretty interesting spin among the small group of people who were going to the FBI with Communist sponsorship stories. It is also what appears to have started the JFK myth that Richard Cain was involved in locating where Oswald obtained the rifle used in the shooting.

-- Larry

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Does this mean that Richard Cain used all three aliases?

- lee



RECORD NUMBER : 104-10059-10348









DATE : 06/29/1978








DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 07/10/1993

COMMENTS : JFK8:F49 1993.07.10.08:57:58:650340: ATTACHMENT IS


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