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#106 Robert Howard

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 04:08 PM

Interesting connection to this topic Mr. Kelly is an audio done by Fintan Dunne titled "9/11 & The 4th Reich Phoenix", I can definitely see possible parallels between the JFK Hit and The 3 and/or '4th Reich'.

Audio: http://breakfornews....p?p=63111#63111

The abundance of documents which directly, or indirectly contain information pertinent to the JFK Administration, and, in so doing reveal heretofore unknown information is one of the few positive developments in the quest for historical knowledge regarding that time period.
One such area is the following NSA document.

Spartans in Darkness: American SIGINT and the Indochina War, 1945-1975.
by Robert J. Hanyok of the Center for Cryptologic History National Security Agency in 2002.
This document was further expanded with an update in 2008.
If one goes to the following URL, Chapter 4 pertains directly to the JFK Administration
See
http://www.fas.org/i...tans/index.html
It is approximately 56 pages, and is helpful when trying to grasp the complexity of the governmental apparatus at that time, which included the Defense Intelligence Agency, CIA, Department of Defense, the State Department, U.S. Information Agency, and Aid for International Development.
To those who have read John Newman's JFK and Vietnam, the controversy over the 1,000 man withdrawl
in reality, is just one facet of that book.
I would submit, Newman's chronicle of deliberate falsification of Vietnam Progress Reports, which were submitted to President Kennedy is much more pertinent to an understanding of what actually was happening in that very tumultuous period in American history.
The question for many, is whether the individuals who were culpable in that area, were also involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.

Edited by Robert Howard, 05 June 2010 - 04:10 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 09:48 PM

Thanks for the information Mr. Howard.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 12:50 PM

Thanks for the information Mr. Howard.


Let me add mine also. Robert's nose for relevant sources outside the box keeps hitting the mark.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 08:29 PM

I have a tendency to consider not. Off hand I can't remember the name but it was something like op sand wedge, a precursor to op phoenix that was in operation in 62. The US basically financed frances role then took it over. There was the domino theory thats obviously attractive. Kennedy did have a tendency for benevolence. What he may have realised was that to win the hearts of the world he must honor certain homefront committments before presuming tto dictate to others about how to behave. The real danger point at which Communist Socialist influence in the US started to really build during Kennedys presidency was in civil rights. It''s always the politicised working class that makes real changes and a politicised working class is a united working class with unity that trancends all race, nationality, et.c., Kennedy was making preemptive moves on the home front for the sake of an ultimate stability. I think this is something that's doomed to failure.

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 10:21 PM

As I have become more knowledgeable about navigating the Mary Ferrell site, there are some tidbits of info that I found in the CIA Section, one was particularly illuminating, and the issue raised may be anachronistic, but it wasn't for myself.
At one time, there was considerable interest about who in the US government at the time of the "attempts at accomodation" between Castro's Cuba and the Kennedy Administration [regarding normalization of relations, ie Vallejo, Lisa Howard et cetera,] was privy to this information, and whether it may have been leaked to the various anti-Castro group's leaders in an attempt to, create a causus belli for the assassination.
Today, I discovered that there was a 303 Committee Hearing on November 5, 1963, in which there were many individuals present. But according to the document, the "item"
in Section 3 "peace feelers," indicate that, as I understand it, only Robert Kennedy and Deputy Director of Plans, Richard Helms were present. Although McGeorge Bundy is not indicated as being present, it is my interpretation of the document, that he was aware of the conversation between Bobby and Dick Helms.
Members who are interested can decide for themselves.
See
303 Committee Meetings [00-00-00]
http://www.maryferre...86&relPageId=63
This document, [I have just perused a small part of it,] appears to encompass all of 1963, beginning in January and ending in December. There appear to be two at least two 303 Committee meeting's for the month of November.


Regarding new sections that are at mary ferrell, there is one section regarding Disarmament Meetings Between the US and USSR, which is certainly a new info source for myself, I guess use of the causus belli, might not exactly be foreign in that area either, lol.

There are also other areas of interest such as Kennedy Era documents made known by the NSA on their website regarding US contingency plans for nuclear war, under the very weird title of Poodle Blanket.
See
Why Is Poodle Blanket Still Classified
http://www.gwu.edu/~...bb310/index.htm
Excerpt from Article
Posted - April 7, 2010

Edited by William Burr - 202/994-7000
Washington, D.C., April 7, 2010 - In a response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the Pentagon claims that "Poodle Blanket" contingency plans from 1961 for a possible confrontation over West Berlin (no longer divided) with the Soviet Union (no longer a country) still need to be secret for fear of damage to current U.S. national security, according to documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (www.nsarchive.org).
"Keeping information on 'Poodle Blanket' a secret today shows how obsolete the Pentagon's security guidance is," commented William Burr, the Archive's analyst who asked for the documents in 1992 -- making the request one of the oldest still pending in the U.S. government.
In the early 1990s, the State Department's historical series, Foreign Relations of the United States, published a number of documents on "Poodle Blanket" -- including the highest level National Security Action Memorandum 109. The name "Poodle Blanket" came from Kennedy administration officials who used it to describe a series of diplomatic, economic, and military contingency plans, leading up to nuclear war, developed in the event of a confrontation with the Soviet Union over Berlin. That formerly top secret documents on "Poodle Blanket" contingency planning have been declassified for years makes it improbable that declassification of more information would "serious and demonstrably undermine" U.S. foreign relations, as the Pentagon argues........


Greg Parker! This nugget is for you!
BTW Greg, Did you know Nestor Sanchez was the person who gave the poison pen to Rolando Cubela in Paris on November 22, 1963?
CABLE: C/S COMMENT: ACTION RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS CABLE HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED FROM
http://www.maryferre...845&relPageId=1
1 OCT 63
TO: DIRECTOR
FROM: MEXICO CITY
RYBAT BEDOX BEVISION
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ABLE HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED illegible
WH EE BY MRS BUSTOS WH EXT 6026 IN COORDINATION WITH MP [03] EE EXT illegible

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:26 AM

As I have become more knowledgeable about navigating the Mary Ferrell site, there are some tidbits of info that I found in the CIA Section, one was particularly illuminating, and the issue raised may be anachronistic, but it wasn't for myself.
At one time, there was considerable interest about who in the US government at the time of the "attempts at accomodation" between Castro's Cuba and the Kennedy Administration [regarding normalization of relations, ie Vallejo, Lisa Howard et cetera,] was privy to this information, and whether it may have been leaked to the various anti-Castro group's leaders in an attempt to, create a causus belli for the assassination.
Today, I discovered that there was a 303 Committee Hearing on November 5, 1963, in which there were many individuals present. But according to the document, the "item"
in Section 3 "peace feelers," indicate that, as I understand it, only Robert Kennedy and Deputy Director of Plans, Richard Helms were present. Although McGeorge Bundy is not indicated as being present, it is my interpretation of the document, that he was aware of the conversation between Bobby and Dick Helms.
Members who are interested can decide for themselves.
See
303 Committee Meetings [00-00-00]
http://www.maryferre...86&relPageId=63
This document, [I have just perused a small part of it,] appears to encompass all of 1963, beginning in January and ending in December. There appear to be two at least two 303 Committee meeting's for the month of November.


Regarding new sections that are at mary ferrell, there is one section regarding Disarmament Meetings Between the US and USSR, which is certainly a new info source for myself, I guess use of the causus belli, might not exactly be foreign in that area either, lol.

There are also other areas of interest such as Kennedy Era documents made known by the NSA on their website regarding US contingency plans for nuclear war, under the very weird title of Poodle Blanket.
See
Why Is Poodle Blanket Still Classified
http://www.gwu.edu/~...bb310/index.htm
Excerpt from Article
Posted - April 7, 2010

Edited by William Burr - 202/994-7000
Washington, D.C., April 7, 2010 - In a response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the Pentagon claims that "Poodle Blanket" contingency plans from 1961 for a possible confrontation over West Berlin (no longer divided) with the Soviet Union (no longer a country) still need to be secret for fear of damage to current U.S. national security, according to documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (www.nsarchive.org).
"Keeping information on 'Poodle Blanket' a secret today shows how obsolete the Pentagon's security guidance is," commented William Burr, the Archive's analyst who asked for the documents in 1992 -- making the request one of the oldest still pending in the U.S. government.
In the early 1990s, the State Department's historical series, Foreign Relations of the United States, published a number of documents on "Poodle Blanket" -- including the highest level National Security Action Memorandum 109. The name "Poodle Blanket" came from Kennedy administration officials who used it to describe a series of diplomatic, economic, and military contingency plans, leading up to nuclear war, developed in the event of a confrontation with the Soviet Union over Berlin. That formerly top secret documents on "Poodle Blanket" contingency planning have been declassified for years makes it improbable that declassification of more information would "serious and demonstrably undermine" U.S. foreign relations, as the Pentagon argues........


Greg Parker! This nugget is for you!
BTW Greg, Did you know Nestor Sanchez was the person who gave the poison pen to Rolando Cubela in Paris on November 22, 1963?
CABLE: C/S COMMENT: ACTION RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS CABLE HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED FROM
http://www.maryferre...845&relPageId=1
1 OCT 63
TO: DIRECTOR
FROM: MEXICO CITY
RYBAT BEDOX BEVISION
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ABLE HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED illegible
WH EE BY MRS BUSTOS WH EXT 6026 IN COORDINATION WITH MP [03] EE EXT illegible


Thanks Robert,

I think this was among the 1995 releaves summarized by Joe Backes. I'd be every interested in Joe has discovered anything about Bedox, and some of the names associated with it.

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 08:09 PM

I am posting the following information, after perusing John Simkin's new thread regarding the Earle Cabell and the disposal of JFK's casket.


September 25, 1975
Earle Cabell, Ex-Mayor, Congressman, Dies at 68
Former Dallas Mayor and U. S. Rep. Earle Cabell a dairyman and food merchant here for 30 years before entering public service died at
St. Paul Hospital here Wednesday at the age of 68.
A member of a pioneer Dallas family, Cabell followed the tradition set by his father and grandfather in serving as mayor from 1961 to 1964,
after a successful career as a businessman and civic leader.
He was elected to four terms in the U.S. House of Representative from 1964 to 1972 as a Democrat from the 5th District.
City flags will fly at half staff until after the funeral, which is scheduled for 11:a.m. at St. Michael's and all Angels Episcopal Church.
Private burial services will be held at Restland Memorial Park.
A resident of 3701 Turtle Creek, Cabell was hospitalized several times with recurring lung illnesses sincve he was defeated for a fifth term.
in November 1972. His death was attributed to congenital emphysema.
Born on a farm in the Oak Cliff area of Dallas on October 27, 1906, Cabell was educated in Dallas public schools,
Texas A&M and Southern Methodist University.
With his brothers, he helped organize Cabell's Inc., which began with some Depression-day ice cream parlors in Oak Cliff.
The business grew, and, in 1959 Cabell's Inc., operators of Cabell Minit Markets and Cabell's Dairies was sold to Southland Corp.
Cabell served as secretary-treasurer, executive vice-president, president and finally as chairman of the board.
He was also chairman of the board of Patio Party Products, Inc. and was a director and member of the executive committee of Grand Ave. State Bank.
Cabell divested himself of business attachments for the primary purpose of running for public office and devoting his life to public service.
"I only want," he said in a public talk in 1963, "to serve a city which has served me."
While in Congress he was a member of the House Science and Astronautics Committee and its Manned
Space Flight and Science, Research and Development Subcommittees. His experience as Dallas mayor earned him a seat on the District of
Columbia committee, and he served as chairman of its Business, Commerce and Fiscal Affairs Subcommittee.
In 1974 the federal building which Cabell had worked to obtain for Dallas was named in his honor.
Cabell attended St. Michael and all Angels Episcopal Church. He was a past president of the Texas Manufacturers Association, the Dairy Products
Institute of Texas, the Dallas Sales Executives Club and the Dallas Crime Commission. He was a member of numerous civic organizations, including the
Salesmanship Club and the Dallas Citizens Council.
He is survived by his wife Elizabeth (Dearie) Cabell, a son, Earle Cabell Jr., of Denver; a daughter Mrs. Elizabeth Lee Pulley of El Paso,
and four grandchildren.
Robert: Note the fact that there is no reference whatsoever to Charles Pearre Cabell, who had been relieved of his duties, along with Allen Dulles
after the infamous Bay of Pigs fiasco, of April 1961. In fact, the three Cabell brothers, Charles, Earle and Ben are each interesting characters.
One of the lesser known facts about Earle Cabell, was that before his tenure as mayor, he also served in the Corrections Unit at Huntsville Prison, in which,
some of whom were incarcerated were mentioned more than once in the supporting documents of the Warren Commission

also see, Arlington National Cemetery page for General Cabell below

Charles Pearre Cabell

Retired January 31, 1962, Died May 25, 1971
Charles Pearre Cabell was born in Dallas, Texas, in 1903. He graduated from the U.S. Military Academy June 12, 1925, and was
commissioned a Second Lieutenant of Field Artillery.
For five years following his graduation from the academy, Lieutenant Cabell served with the 12th Field Artillery at Fort Sam Houston,
Texas. He then was assigned to the Air Corps Primary Flying School at Brooks Field, Texas, from which he graduated in February
1931 when he went to Kelly Field, Texas. He completed the observation course at the Air Corps Advanced Flying School in June
1931 and remained at Kelly Field as a flying instructor. He was transferred to the Air Corps July 11, 1931.
Lieutenant Cabell joined the Seventh Observation Squadron at France Field, Panama Canal Zone, as adjutant in October 1931. He subsequently
served as commanding officer of the 44th Observation Squadron, the 24th Pursuit squadron, and the 74th Pursuit Squadron, successively, at
Albrook Field, Canal Zone.

In September 1934 he became a flying instructor at the Air Corps Primary Flying School at Randolph Field, Texas. Captain Cabell later served as
post adjutant and in September 1938 entered the Air Corps Tactical School at Maxwell Field, Alabama, from which he graduated in June l939.
In August 1939 he was detailed to the Command and General Staff school at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, from which he graduated in February 1940.

The following June Major Cabell went to Wright Field, Ohio, where he was assigned to the Photographic Laboratory in the Experimental Engineering
Division. After a period as an observer with the Royal Air Force in the United Kingdom, he was transferred to Washington, D.C., in April 1941 for
duty in the Office of the Chief of Air Corps, as chief of the Photo Unit. In February 1942 Lieutenant Colonel Cabell was made assistant executive for
technical planning and coordination.
The following month he became chief of the advisory council to the commanding general of the Army Air Forces. From June to October 1943
Colonel Cabell attended the first course at the Army and Navy Staff College.
He was assigned to the Eighth Air Force in the European Theater in October 1943 and on December 1, 1943, assumed command of the 45th Combat
Bombardment Wing. In April 1944 Brigadier General Cabell became director of plans for the U.S. Strategic Air Force in Europe, and three months later
was made director of operations and intelligence for the Mediterranean Allied Air Forces with headquarters at Caserta, Italy.
In May 1945, General Cabell was assigned to Air Force headquarters, where he became chief of the Strategy and Policy Division in the Office of the
Assistant Chief of Air Staff for Plans. In December 1945 he was assigned with the Military Staff Committee of the United Nations, and after attending the
London Conference, remained on duty with the United Nations in New York, as deputy and later as U.S. Air Force Representative on the Military Staff
Committee. General Cabell was assigned to Air Force Headquarters in August 1947 as special assistant to the assistant chief of air staff for plans, and the
following two months served as acting deputy to the director (designate) of the Joint Staff. In November 1947 Major General Cabell became chief of the
Air Intelligence Requirements Division in the Office of the Director of Intelligence. On May 15, 1948, he was appointed director of intelligence of the U.S.
Air Force.

On November 1, 1951, General Cabell was named director of the joint staff in the Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Lieutenant General Cabell was sworn in as deputy director of Central Intelligence on April 23, 1953.
He is a rated technical observer and command pilot.
Interests
Enjoys spectator sports, plays golf, fond of fishing, swimming and horseback riding. Is an avid reader and enjoys good classical music.
Has the habit of taking a morning constitutional.
Opinions, Tastes and Evaluations
Enjoys Mexican cooking, particularly a good bowl of chili; partial to beef and fresh lemon pie.
Likes Western stories and good music. Tells a good story and has a sense of humor. Enjoys traveling, prefers warm climate areas.
Is a firm believer in General Arnold's philosophy that there is no such thing as "can't be done".
Stresses intellectual integrity; loyalty and sincerity off relationships; precision and decisiveness; and frowns on premature judgment,
shortcuts, cure-alls, talkativeness and bombasticity.
Penetrating in his evaluations of people and tasks. Has tremendous energy with ability to contain pressure. Is frank and direct, exercising
integrity and fairness in all decisions.
His colleagues and associates have stated that, "when working with General Cabell, personal integrity, leadership and patience abound.
The general is always fair and open-minded; and inconsideration is unknown to his behavior".
Decorations and Medals
Distinguished Service Medal with oak leaf cluster
Legion of Merit
Distinguished Flying Cross
Bronze Star Medal
Air Medal with oak leaf cluster
American Defense Service Medal
American Campaign Medal
European African Middle Eastern Campaign Medal
World War II Victory Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Foreign Awards
Order of the British Empire (Honorary Commander)
National Order of the Legion of Honor, Degree of Chevalier (France)
Croix De Guerre with Palm (France)
Commander, Order SS Maurice and Lazarous (Italy)
General Cabell and his wife, Octavia Jacklyn DeHymel Cabell, are buried in Section 5, Grave 55, of Arlington National Cemetery.

Cabell, Octavia Jacklyn DeHymel

The wife of Charles P. Cabell, Sr. 93, a volunteer with charitable, service and cultural organizations, died of a thyroid disorder November 4, 1995 at the
Arleigh Burke Pavilion in McLean. Mrs. Cabell was the widow of retired Air Force General Charles P. Cabell Sr., who also had served as deputy director
of the Central Intelligence Agency. He died in 1971.
Mrs. Cabell was born in San Antonio and graduated from Incarnate Word College. In 1941, she came to Washington with her husband.
Her volunteer work included service for the National Symphony Orchestra, Travelers Aid Society and United Service Organizations, where she had
served as a board member for several years. She was a former president of the Texas State Society and, in this capacity, organized an inaugural
reception for Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1961. Mrs. Cabell also had served as president of the Air Force Officers Wives Club during the years
immediately following the establishment of the Air Force as a separate service in 1947.
Her activities also included work with the National Society of Arts and Letters, the American Newspaper Womens Club and the Soldiers, Sailors, Marines
and Airmen's Club.
Survivors include three children, retired Air Force Brigadier General Charles P. Cabell Jr. of Colorado Springs, Catharine Cabell Bennett of Annandale
and Benjamin Cabell of West Grove, Pa.; a brother, Cushing DeHymel of Pasadena, Calif.; and seven grandchildren.


Former Local City Manager, Elgin E. Crull Dies at 68
Funeral Services for Elgin E. Crull, 68, of 9424 Hobart, Dallas city manager from 1952 to 1968, will be held at 4:00 p.m.
Wednesday at Sparkman-Hillcrest Funeral Chapel at 7405 Northwest Highway. Burial will be in Hillcrest Memorial Park.
He died Sunday in a Dallas hospital.
A native of Louisville, Ky., he came to Dallas in 1931, and worked on the old Dallas Journal from 1932 to 1938, when the
Journal was sold and merged with the Dallas Dispatch.
He was hired in 1939, as an assistant by then City Mgr. James W. Aston, who 27 years later, as board chairman of Republic
National Bank, once again hired Crull to become vice-president of the Howard Corp. and vice-president of the bank.
He became city manager in 1952, following the resignation of Charles Ford and held the post during the administration of
four mayors. J. B. Adoue Jr., R.L. Thornton, Earle Cabell and Erik Jonsson.
During his 14 years as city manager, Dallas experienced its greatest growth under Crull's tight efficient city government.
He is credited with creating a series of capital improvement programs which resulted in extensive public works projects.
The present city hall, Memorial Auditorium, Love Field Terminal and much of the city's major thoroughfares
were among projects completed while he was in office..
An Air Force officer during World War II, he completed his active military service as a major and worked on the mangement
control staff at the Pentagon.

He was past president of the Texas City Managers Association, a member and past vice-president of the International
City Managers Association and a member of the Municipal Finance Officers Association.
Survivors include his wife Virginia, and one brother Donald B. Crull.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:03 AM

I am posting the following information, after perusing John Simkin's new thread regarding the Earle Cabell and the disposal of JFK's casket.


September 25, 1975
Earle Cabell, Ex-Mayor, Congressman, Dies at 68
Former Dallas Mayor and U. S. Rep. Earle Cabell a dairyman and food merchant here for 30 years before entering public service died at
St. Paul Hospital here Wednesday at the age of 68.
A member of a pioneer Dallas family, Cabell followed the tradition set by his father and grandfather in serving as mayor from 1961 to 1964,
after a successful career as a businessman and civic leader.
He was elected to four terms in the U.S. House of Representative from 1964 to 1972 as a Democrat from the 5th District.
City flags will fly at half staff until after the funeral, which is scheduled for 11:a.m. at St. Michael's and all Angels Episcopal Church.
Private burial services will be held at Restland Memorial Park.
A resident of 3701 Turtle Creek, Cabell was hospitalized several times with recurring lung illnesses sincve he was defeated for a fifth term.
in November 1972. His death was attributed to congenital emphysema.
Born on a farm in the Oak Cliff area of Dallas on October 27, 1906, Cabell was educated in Dallas public schools,
Texas A&M and Southern Methodist University.
With his brothers, he helped organize Cabell's Inc., which began with some Depression-day ice cream parlors in Oak Cliff.
The business grew, and, in 1959 Cabell's Inc., operators of Cabell Minit Markets and Cabell's Dairies was sold to Southland Corp.
Cabell served as secretary-treasurer, executive vice-president, president and finally as chairman of the board.
He was also chairman of the board of Patio Party Products, Inc. and was a director and member of the executive committee of Grand Ave. State Bank.
Cabell divested himself of business attachments for the primary purpose of running for public office and devoting his life to public service.
"I only want," he said in a public talk in 1963, "to serve a city which has served me."
While in Congress he was a member of the House Science and Astronautics Committee and its Manned
Space Flight and Science, Research and Development Subcommittees. His experience as Dallas mayor earned him a seat on the District of
Columbia committee, and he served as chairman of its Business, Commerce and Fiscal Affairs Subcommittee.
In 1974 the federal building which Cabell had worked to obtain for Dallas was named in his honor.
Cabell attended St. Michael and all Angels Episcopal Church. He was a past president of the Texas Manufacturers Association, the Dairy Products
Institute of Texas, the Dallas Sales Executives Club and the Dallas Crime Commission. He was a member of numerous civic organizations, including the
Salesmanship Club and the Dallas Citizens Council.
He is survived by his wife Elizabeth (Dearie) Cabell, a son, Earle Cabell Jr., of Denver; a daughter Mrs. Elizabeth Lee Pulley of El Paso,
and four grandchildren.
Robert: Note the fact that there is no reference whatsoever to Charles Pearre Cabell, who had been relieved of his duties, along with Allen Dulles
after the infamous Bay of Pigs fiasco, of April 1961. In fact, the three Cabell brothers, Charles, Earle and Ben are each interesting characters.
One of the lesser known facts about Earle Cabell, was that before his tenure as mayor, he also served in the Corrections Unit at Huntsville Prison, in which,
some of whom were incarcerated were mentioned more than once in the supporting documents of the Warren Commission

also see, Arlington National Cemetery page for General Cabell below

Charles Pearre Cabell

Retired January 31, 1962, Died May 25, 1971
Charles Pearre Cabell was born in Dallas, Texas, in 1903. He graduated from the U.S. Military Academy June 12, 1925, and was
commissioned a Second Lieutenant of Field Artillery.
For five years following his graduation from the academy, Lieutenant Cabell served with the 12th Field Artillery at Fort Sam Houston,
Texas. He then was assigned to the Air Corps Primary Flying School at Brooks Field, Texas, from which he graduated in February
1931 when he went to Kelly Field, Texas. He completed the observation course at the Air Corps Advanced Flying School in June
1931 and remained at Kelly Field as a flying instructor. He was transferred to the Air Corps July 11, 1931.
Lieutenant Cabell joined the Seventh Observation Squadron at France Field, Panama Canal Zone, as adjutant in October 1931. He subsequently
served as commanding officer of the 44th Observation Squadron, the 24th Pursuit squadron, and the 74th Pursuit Squadron, successively, at
Albrook Field, Canal Zone.

In September 1934 he became a flying instructor at the Air Corps Primary Flying School at Randolph Field, Texas. Captain Cabell later served as
post adjutant and in September 1938 entered the Air Corps Tactical School at Maxwell Field, Alabama, from which he graduated in June l939.
In August 1939 he was detailed to the Command and General Staff school at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, from which he graduated in February 1940.

The following June Major Cabell went to Wright Field, Ohio, where he was assigned to the Photographic Laboratory in the Experimental Engineering
Division. After a period as an observer with the Royal Air Force in the United Kingdom, he was transferred to Washington, D.C., in April 1941 for
duty in the Office of the Chief of Air Corps, as chief of the Photo Unit. In February 1942 Lieutenant Colonel Cabell was made assistant executive for
technical planning and coordination.
The following month he became chief of the advisory council to the commanding general of the Army Air Forces. From June to October 1943
Colonel Cabell attended the first course at the Army and Navy Staff College.
He was assigned to the Eighth Air Force in the European Theater in October 1943 and on December 1, 1943, assumed command of the 45th Combat
Bombardment Wing. In April 1944 Brigadier General Cabell became director of plans for the U.S. Strategic Air Force in Europe, and three months later
was made director of operations and intelligence for the Mediterranean Allied Air Forces with headquarters at Caserta, Italy.
In May 1945, General Cabell was assigned to Air Force headquarters, where he became chief of the Strategy and Policy Division in the Office of the
Assistant Chief of Air Staff for Plans. In December 1945 he was assigned with the Military Staff Committee of the United Nations, and after attending the
London Conference, remained on duty with the United Nations in New York, as deputy and later as U.S. Air Force Representative on the Military Staff
Committee. General Cabell was assigned to Air Force Headquarters in August 1947 as special assistant to the assistant chief of air staff for plans, and the
following two months served as acting deputy to the director (designate) of the Joint Staff. In November 1947 Major General Cabell became chief of the
Air Intelligence Requirements Division in the Office of the Director of Intelligence. On May 15, 1948, he was appointed director of intelligence of the U.S.
Air Force.

On November 1, 1951, General Cabell was named director of the joint staff in the Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Lieutenant General Cabell was sworn in as deputy director of Central Intelligence on April 23, 1953.
He is a rated technical observer and command pilot.
Interests
Enjoys spectator sports, plays golf, fond of fishing, swimming and horseback riding. Is an avid reader and enjoys good classical music.
Has the habit of taking a morning constitutional.
Opinions, Tastes and Evaluations
Enjoys Mexican cooking, particularly a good bowl of chili; partial to beef and fresh lemon pie.
Likes Western stories and good music. Tells a good story and has a sense of humor. Enjoys traveling, prefers warm climate areas.
Is a firm believer in General Arnold's philosophy that there is no such thing as "can't be done".
Stresses intellectual integrity; loyalty and sincerity off relationships; precision and decisiveness; and frowns on premature judgment,
shortcuts, cure-alls, talkativeness and bombasticity.
Penetrating in his evaluations of people and tasks. Has tremendous energy with ability to contain pressure. Is frank and direct, exercising
integrity and fairness in all decisions.
His colleagues and associates have stated that, "when working with General Cabell, personal integrity, leadership and patience abound.
The general is always fair and open-minded; and inconsideration is unknown to his behavior".
Decorations and Medals
Distinguished Service Medal with oak leaf cluster
Legion of Merit
Distinguished Flying Cross
Bronze Star Medal
Air Medal with oak leaf cluster
American Defense Service Medal
American Campaign Medal
European African Middle Eastern Campaign Medal
World War II Victory Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Foreign Awards
Order of the British Empire (Honorary Commander)
National Order of the Legion of Honor, Degree of Chevalier (France)
Croix De Guerre with Palm (France)
Commander, Order SS Maurice and Lazarous (Italy)
General Cabell and his wife, Octavia Jacklyn DeHymel Cabell, are buried in Section 5, Grave 55, of Arlington National Cemetery.

Cabell, Octavia Jacklyn DeHymel

The wife of Charles P. Cabell, Sr. 93, a volunteer with charitable, service and cultural organizations, died of a thyroid disorder November 4, 1995 at the
Arleigh Burke Pavilion in McLean. Mrs. Cabell was the widow of retired Air Force General Charles P. Cabell Sr., who also had served as deputy director
of the Central Intelligence Agency. He died in 1971.
Mrs. Cabell was born in San Antonio and graduated from Incarnate Word College. In 1941, she came to Washington with her husband.
Her volunteer work included service for the National Symphony Orchestra, Travelers Aid Society and United Service Organizations, where she had
served as a board member for several years. She was a former president of the Texas State Society and, in this capacity, organized an inaugural
reception for Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1961. Mrs. Cabell also had served as president of the Air Force Officers Wives Club during the years
immediately following the establishment of the Air Force as a separate service in 1947.
Her activities also included work with the National Society of Arts and Letters, the American Newspaper Womens Club and the Soldiers, Sailors, Marines
and Airmen's Club.
Survivors include three children, retired Air Force Brigadier General Charles P. Cabell Jr. of Colorado Springs, Catharine Cabell Bennett of Annandale
and Benjamin Cabell of West Grove, Pa.; a brother, Cushing DeHymel of Pasadena, Calif.; and seven grandchildren.


Former Local City Manager, Elgin E. Crull Dies at 68
Funeral Services for Elgin E. Crull, 68, of 9424 Hobart, Dallas city manager from 1952 to 1968, will be held at 4:00 p.m.
Wednesday at Sparkman-Hillcrest Funeral Chapel at 7405 Northwest Highway. Burial will be in Hillcrest Memorial Park.
He died Sunday in a Dallas hospital.
A native of Louisville, Ky., he came to Dallas in 1931, and worked on the old Dallas Journal from 1932 to 1938, when the
Journal was sold and merged with the Dallas Dispatch.
He was hired in 1939, as an assistant by then City Mgr. James W. Aston, who 27 years later, as board chairman of Republic
National Bank, once again hired Crull to become vice-president of the Howard Corp. and vice-president of the bank.
He became city manager in 1952, following the resignation of Charles Ford and held the post during the administration of
four mayors. J. B. Adoue Jr., R.L. Thornton, Earle Cabell and Erik Jonsson.
During his 14 years as city manager, Dallas experienced its greatest growth under Crull's tight efficient city government.
He is credited with creating a series of capital improvement programs which resulted in extensive public works projects.
The present city hall, Memorial Auditorium, Love Field Terminal and much of the city's major thoroughfares
were among projects completed while he was in office..
An Air Force officer during World War II, he completed his active military service as a major and worked on the mangement
control staff at the Pentagon.

He was past president of the Texas City Managers Association, a member and past vice-president of the International
City Managers Association and a member of the Municipal Finance Officers Association.
Survivors include his wife Virginia, and one brother Donald B. Crull.

Here is something from a little over a year before the assassination, that seems like it should at least be known, no sinister
implications implied, but it was the first time I had heard of Free, Inc. and it seems Mr Gardner
was trying to give Captain Ryker the same kind of wrapped in the American flag treatment, General Edwin Walker received.

September 13, 1962 AF Anti-Red Crusader Muzzled, Group Charges
Fort Worth, Texas
A leader of the Free Inc., charged here Wednesday that an Air Force
officer has been "muzzled" because certain films and tapes used for
lectures were not been cleared by the Strategic Air Command.
Melvin Gardner of Fort Worth, President of Free,
[Freedom Requires Economic Education] Inc., said the transfer
of Capt. Kenneth W. Ryker from Carswell Air Force Base to
Goose Bay, Labrador, was "another example of military
muzzling."
Capt. Ryker has been delivering lectures for Free, Inc.,
organization on communism and other threats.
Most of these films, filmstrips and tape recordings
used to illustrate these lectures were cleared by the Strategic Air
Command, said Gardner, some were not however.
Col. Roderick G. Darehus, base information officer
at Carswell, identified three films,
["A Look at Communism," "Communist
Encirclement - 1961" and "A Look at
Socialism"] a filmstrip and tape
[Ten Nations and the U.S.A."]
and a Paul Harvey tape, ["The Testing of Time,"]
as those not cleared by the SAC.
The base officer said the objections to the material
arose because it contained criticism of
1 governments of allied countries
2 actions by former U. S. government leaders
and 3 of government programs.
Gardner said a number of groups have
asked to hear the programs sponsored by Free Inc.,
which feature Capt. Ryker as speaker.
"It now appears that the muzzling of Capt. Ryker
is complete," he said.
Gardner said some military officers felt
the transfer of the Air Force officer was
"highly irregular," since Ryker was
eligible for retirement in just a few months.
Free Inc., sponsors a Citizenship Training
Program as a educational program "to
acquaint our citizens with the threat
to our liberty posed by alien ideologies."
Gardner said.
The programs he said are designed to
motivate Americans to take positive action
to promote fundamental principles "which made
America great."

Certainly not the first time Carswell AFB has surfaced regarding
the JFK Assassination....
ie Doran, the Odd Couple at Carswell, wasn't Oswald's half-brother
John Pic stationed there for awhile?

Edited by Robert Howard, 29 September 2010 - 01:06 AM.


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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:20 AM

So Earl Cabell's wife was associated with Traveler's Aid, the group that met Oswald and his family in New York City when the arrived from USSR?

That's pretty interesting.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:44 AM

http://educationforu...showtopic=16521

http://www.maryferre.../archive/docset

Presidents Foreign Intelligence Adivisory Board - (PFIAB)

http://www.maryferre...975&relPageId=4

September 10, 1963 MEMORANDUM FOR THE FILE

SUBJECT: Board Panel on Covert Action Operations

The Board Panel me it in the Board's offices on September 6, 1963.

Panel members present were Mr. Robert Murphy, Chairman; Mr. Gordon Gray; and Dr. William Langer. Messrs. Coyne and Ash also attended the meeting.

During the course of its meeting the Panel was briefed by Mr. Richard Helms (Deputy DCI/Plans, CIA) and his assistants, Mr. Cord Meyer and Mr. Desmond Fitzgerald (head of the CIA's headquarters staff dealing with Cuba). Highlights of the briefings were as followed:

MESSRS. HELMS AND MEYER

[REDACTED] Rest of page and next page.

Resumes – Vietnam – [REDACTIONS]

MR. FITZGERALD

(On the subject of Cuba)

In June the NSC Special Group approved a CIA proposal for a package of covert operations against Cuba. The covert programs…. (unreadable)program aimed at precluding acquisition of spare parts for industrial machinery, and other projects needed by Cuba, (5) a sabotage program of a general nature, and (6) support of anti-Castro autonomous groups, by giving them money and the means to act, but under an arrangement which insures against attribution to the United States, and which precludes operations from U.S. or British soil. (The CIA philosophy is to back only the potentially powerful and effective anti-Castro groups, and the military is felt to be the best bet.)

The CIA effort represents a shift from external raids to internal sabotage actions. The CIA mounts about 10 "black" operations a month, and Castro security forces have taken their toll among the CIA teams. Three operations were conducted on August 17 and 18, and among other things the objective is to give encouragement to dissident Cuban elements such as military officers who see no professional future under Castro who is unloading military elements which aided him in his initial seizure of the government. (The Special Group, Mr. Bundy and other White House staff note the successful mounting of CIA's sabotage operations and have asked for more to be conducted. CIA has found it necessary to resist any such pressure for these operations to be increased beyond the present effective capacity which CIA has at this time.).....

…..CIA penetration of the Cuban military got underway in April. An agent brought out a Cuban Army [REDACTED' (08). The [REDACTED] says that there is a medium level acceptance among the military of the idea of overthrowing Castro, but although the view is held by individual members of the military they are fearful of communicating it to others within Cuba. [REDACTED] Defectors are naming military personnel to be contacted. There is, however, a fear of the Castro security system…


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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:49 PM

http://educationforu...showtopic=16521

http://www.maryferre.../archive/docset

Presidents Foreign Intelligence Adivisory Board - (PFIAB)

http://www.maryferre...975&relPageId=4

September 10, 1963 MEMORANDUM FOR THE FILE

SUBJECT: Board Panel on Covert Action Operations

The Board Panel me it in the Board's offices on September 6, 1963.

Panel members present were Mr. Robert Murphy, Chairman; Mr. Gordon Gray; and Dr. William Langer. Messrs. Coyne and Ash also attended the meeting.

During the course of its meeting the Panel was briefed by Mr. Richard Helms (Deputy DCI/Plans, CIA) and his assistants, Mr. Cord Meyer and Mr. Desmond Fitzgerald (head of the CIA's headquarters staff dealing with Cuba). Highlights of the briefings were as followed:

MESSRS. HELMS AND MEYER

[REDACTED] Rest of page and next page.

Resumes – Vietnam – [REDACTIONS]

MR. FITZGERALD

(On the subject of Cuba)

In June the NSC Special Group approved a CIA proposal for a package of covert operations against Cuba. The covert programs…. (unreadable)program aimed at precluding acquisition of spare parts for industrial machinery, and other projects needed by Cuba, (5) a sabotage program of a general nature, and (6) support of anti-Castro autonomous groups, by giving them money and the means to act, but under an arrangement which insures against attribution to the United States, and which precludes operations from U.S. or British soil. (The CIA philosophy is to back only the potentially powerful and effective anti-Castro groups, and the military is felt to be the best bet.)

The CIA effort represents a shift from external raids to internal sabotage actions. The CIA mounts about 10 "black" operations a month, and Castro security forces have taken their toll among the CIA teams. Three operations were conducted on August 17 and 18, and among other things the objective is to give encouragement to dissident Cuban elements such as military officers who see no professional future under Castro who is unloading military elements which aided him in his initial seizure of the government. (The Special Group, Mr. Bundy and other White House staff note the successful mounting of CIA's sabotage operations and have asked for more to be conducted. CIA has found it necessary to resist any such pressure for these operations to be increased beyond the present effective capacity which CIA has at this time.).....

…..CIA penetration of the Cuban military got underway in April. An agent brought out a Cuban Army [REDACTED' (08). The [REDACTED] says that there is a medium level acceptance among the military of the idea of overthrowing Castro, but although the view is held by individual members of the military they are fearful of communicating it to others within Cuba. [REDACTED] Defectors are naming military personnel to be contacted. There is, however, a fear of the Castro security system…

The following is probably one of, if not the most interesting allegation concerning Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald I have run across.
Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/JFK Documents - Central Intelligence Agency/Oswald 201 File (201-289248)/Oswald 201 File, Vol 53/
NARA Record Number: 1993.06.18.16:22:46:560000
JAMES KELLEY LOWE ADVISED THE INFORMANT THAT HE WAS A FORMER INTELLIGE.........
James Kelley Lowe advised the informant that he was a former intelligence officer in the U S Air Force and that he and his wife met with Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby at Ruby’s place of business some six to eight weeks prior to the assassination of President Kennedy. On August 31, 1965 Tom Taylor, Identification Bureau, Fort Worth Police Department, Fort Worth, advised that on August 8, 1965 Lowe had been arrested and subsequently charged with illegal possession of dangerous drugs.
http://www.maryferre...336&relPageId=4

There was another Lowe in Dallas who is worth mentioning
LOWE, JOHN E., JR. Sources: Dallas Times Herald, 4/11/70
Mary's Comments: Served as supervisor of the U.S. Marshal's office in Dallas from 1960 until 1970.

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http://educationforu...showtopic=16521

http://www.maryferre.../archive/docset

Presidents Foreign Intelligence Adivisory Board - (PFIAB)

http://www.maryferre...975&relPageId=4

September 10, 1963 MEMORANDUM FOR THE FILE

SUBJECT: Board Panel on Covert Action Operations

The Board Panel me it in the Board's offices on September 6, 1963.

Panel members present were Mr. Robert Murphy, Chairman; Mr. Gordon Gray; and Dr. William Langer. Messrs. Coyne and Ash also attended the meeting.

During the course of its meeting the Panel was briefed by Mr. Richard Helms (Deputy DCI/Plans, CIA) and his assistants, Mr. Cord Meyer and Mr. Desmond Fitzgerald (head of the CIA's headquarters staff dealing with Cuba). Highlights of the briefings were as followed:

MESSRS. HELMS AND MEYER

[REDACTED] Rest of page and next page.

Resumes – Vietnam – [REDACTIONS]

MR. FITZGERALD

(On the subject of Cuba)

In June the NSC Special Group approved a CIA proposal for a package of covert operations against Cuba. The covert programs…. (unreadable)program aimed at precluding acquisition of spare parts for industrial machinery, and other projects needed by Cuba, (5) a sabotage program of a general nature, and (6) support of anti-Castro autonomous groups, by giving them money and the means to act, but under an arrangement which insures against attribution to the United States, and which precludes operations from U.S. or British soil. (The CIA philosophy is to back only the potentially powerful and effective anti-Castro groups, and the military is felt to be the best bet.)

The CIA effort represents a shift from external raids to internal sabotage actions. The CIA mounts about 10 "black" operations a month, and Castro security forces have taken their toll among the CIA teams. Three operations were conducted on August 17 and 18, and among other things the objective is to give encouragement to dissident Cuban elements such as military officers who see no professional future under Castro who is unloading military elements which aided him in his initial seizure of the government. (The Special Group, Mr. Bundy and other White House staff note the successful mounting of CIA's sabotage operations and have asked for more to be conducted. CIA has found it necessary to resist any such pressure for these operations to be increased beyond the present effective capacity which CIA has at this time.).....

…..CIA penetration of the Cuban military got underway in April. An agent brought out a Cuban Army [REDACTED' (08). The [REDACTED] says that there is a medium level acceptance among the military of the idea of overthrowing Castro, but although the view is held by individual members of the military they are fearful of communicating it to others within Cuba. [REDACTED] Defectors are naming military personnel to be contacted. There is, however, a fear of the Castro security system…

The following is probably one of, if not the most interesting allegation concerning Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald I have run across.
Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/JFK Documents - Central Intelligence Agency/Oswald 201 File (201-289248)/Oswald 201 File, Vol 53/
NARA Record Number: 1993.06.18.16:22:46:560000
JAMES KELLEY LOWE ADVISED THE INFORMANT THAT HE WAS A FORMER INTELLIGE.........
James Kelley Lowe advised the informant that he was a former intelligence officer in the U S Air Force and that he and his wife met with Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby at Ruby's place of business some six to eight weeks prior to the assassination of President Kennedy. On August 31, 1965 Tom Taylor, Identification Bureau, Fort Worth Police Department, Fort Worth, advised that on August 8, 1965 Lowe had been arrested and subsequently charged with illegal possession of dangerous drugs.
http://www.maryferre...336&relPageId=4

There was another Lowe in Dallas who is worth mentioning
LOWE, JOHN E., JR. Sources: Dallas Times Herald, 4/11/70
Mary's Comments: Served as supervisor of the U.S. Marshal's office in Dallas from 1960 until 1970.


The following letter has been cited in JFK documents but I am unclear as to whether
it has ever been posted in its entirety.
This copy was taken from one of the 11 Volume's of
Oswald's Best Friend: The George DeMohrenschildt Story
For background see
http://www.assassina...com/shack3g.htm
Colonel Howard Burris to Walter Jenkins

April 23, 1963

Walter:

It is somewhat distressing to be caught in the dilemma between the
desire and the apparent necessity on the one hand to perform a function and
service - - - and to do it efficiently and well - - and on the other hand to
observe physical conditions which are often exclusive. First of all let me say
that I have absolutely no reservations about working in the Pentagon. I
worked there almost ten years before the present activity. But I hasten
to add that working principally (and to an extent even partially) in the
Pentagon greatly limits the nature and scope of many functions which are
essential. For example, there is a restricted communications center and
library in the Executive Office Building which provides a continuous flow
of incoming and outgoing State, Defense, USIA and other departmental
policies, messages, and materials. The volume is enormous and although
the staff provides an initial screening and distribution to me, and to
members of the White House Staff as you may have noted, a considerable
amount of time is required at different times each day just to keep abreast.
Much is background; occasionally it is specific and urgent. But in this area
I have attempted - - in accordance with Mr. Johnson's requests - - to trouble him
only with significant events, and then in accurate, capsulized form and in
proper perspective (which only background study can provide). Neverthe-
less, this particular concentration of information and service is not avail-
able anywhere else in Washington. To be sure, the various departments
all have their inputs but the lifetime of no man would permit completing
the daily rounds and going through each department's unscreened output.
Intelligence has a similar, though much less comprehensive operation in
EOB. However, that office handles all our sensitive documents.


You are familiar with the daily meetings with State, Defense, CIA, and
others on a less frequent basis. They are held with representatives who
visit the area to brief various White House officials. For example, I am
furnished the same documents and background each morning which is fur-
nished Bundy. Similarly, policy papers are delivered on an irregular basis.

Yes, I realize that the substance of or basis for this activity is secondary
to other considerations, But here, I would like to go on record in emphasis-
ing the importance of the Vice-President keeping himself informed to the
maximum extent possible in as many areas as possible in order that he may
intelligently contribute to policy making whenever he can; that he may like-
wise be broadly informed in his contacts and public utterances; and that he
be more nearly prepared to assume the reins of government in case
he is called upon to do so.


Back to the basic issue: my assignment. You may recall my memo of
March 1, 1961 on the occasion of my return to the Air Force after only a
couple of months' duty with the office. When I was later recalled to perform
certain functions, it was stipulated that I would not be assigned to the office
of the Vice-President. Since that day - - for more than two years - - I have
remained assigned
to the Pentagon, specifically to the Office of the Director
of Plans for the Air Force. I have cited this fact to you on several occasions.
My records are kept in that office, to include leave, pay administration and
all. General Burchinal even makes out my efficiency reports (but requests a
statement from you on this facet of my existence). That office issues my
travel orders and pays my per diem when I perform official acts to the further-
ance of my Air Force background, such as the recent West Coast visit for
presentations on Dynasoar, heavy military transport, and supersonic trans-
port. My secretary accompanies me to and from the Pentagon, and she is
paid and administered to in the same fashion as I. My assigned office is Room
3B932; my telephone number is 59000. I adhere to the present schedule by
traveling about in my own car, not relying at all upon the auto assigned to the
Vice President's office. I do not even charge my official calls to the Vice
President's account- In case of error in billing I pay for the call personally.


It is inappropriate for me to engage in a broad comparison of Colonel
Jackson and myself - - not to mention my displeasure in doing so. But since
you cited the fact that he is not assigned to the Vice President's office, I
must offer this rejoinder that I was not assigned to the office long before
he was not assigned! In the years of this perplexing status, the suggestion
was twice made that my assignment be made to Gen. McHugh's office,
but I expressed the preference that it remain as it is. One of these occasions
cropped up - - - during an interregnum in this assignment - - when I received
inquiries about a permanent assignment over there.

All this could have more simply been said - - if at all - - that doing things
Roman style, or things done by halves, are unexpectedly difficult and never
quite right - - to say nothing on the other hand about being pleasant, efficient,
challenging and mutually rewarding. I would take it that surely the work,
even more of it, should and must be done. Although I'm not assigned to
you're office, I still solicit your advice on how and where possible, my
ill-defined functions could and should be carried out. In addition to the
many projects and studies which I have presumptively undertaken, there
are additionally an item or two which you have asked me to do.



HLB

Edited by Robert Howard, 02 April 2011 - 06:45 PM.


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:23 PM

The Homer of the JFK case -- a/k/a Gerry Patrick Hemming -- told me that the gunman in the TSBD was a "Nazi Rat Line sniper" whose target was JBC, at whom he fired "on full automatic."

Why the governor? Hemming in heavy German accent: "'Because he didn't bid high enough.'"


Hemming told Twyman, in what Twyman describes as an emotional moment, that "the Patriots did it." Was he referring to the eventual Super Bowl champs, or whom?


Essentially the sample people referred to by Joseph A. Milteer in his tape recorded revelation. "The Patriot's are in the clear. It will be blamed on a Communist"

The so called Park Avenue Patriots would have included Robert J. Morris and Charles Willoughby of the Dallas John Birch Society, Rev. Gerald L. K. Smith, Wickliffe Draper of The Pioneer Fund and even Annie Vonsiatsky who was married in that Park Avenue ROCOR Church and all their cronies who were so anti-Communist as to be considered "Patriotic Fascists". Even Gen. Douglas MacArthur lived in the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan at that time. The Southern Patriots were the pro-slavery, anti-Civil Rights activists like Milteer and his fellow Klansmen
including the Mississippi types like Sen. James Eastland, Medford B. Evans, Byron De La Beckwith, Elmore Greaves and the White Citizens Council leaders and Miss Sov Comm types.

One day this will be blatantly obvious to everyone, IMHO.

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Thread last updated April 2011....

It is amazing to me that this thread died. I can, at the very least add a few things that should at least be factual
and of the "I didn't know that," category.


Some people say, with age comes wisdom, I don't know about that but in spite of some memory retention issues, there are
these tidbits.


The Draft Plan for A Coup in Cuba, which the maryferrell.org URL, which is probably at the beginning of this document
is dated early December 1963, but at the very beginning, it begins with the caption Appendix B.....

It would be important to determine, if that is indeed the case what this document was originally attached to,
chances are it is still classified.


On page 44, of that same document it references a
Colonel W. C. Chamberlin U.S.M.C. Latin Affairs Desk.....
https://www.maryferr...51&relPageId=44



Which leads me to a more than slightly interesting little story.
November 1951........

What is significant about that year....
Answer
It marked the first issue of a British magazine called The Londoner, I know because I have the first issue.
What is "interesting" about this mag, is the fact that from my vantage point it reads like a 1951 version
of The Economist....in other words it is certainly not People magazine. More to the point, however are the
principal parties connected to it. Such as William Henry Chamberlin, of brother DeMohrenschildt fame.

In fact, along with publisher F. C. Millington, Chairman and Editor-in-Chief, and the staff of
J.R. Knowles, Gilmore Roberts Virginia Paige and Olga Lehman,
(Sales Director, Managing Editor, New York Editor and Assistant Editor, respectively), the mag has
a [to me obvious] compelling added feature, that this publication made its debut, at again, what some might
say was the peak of the "Special Relationship," and the contents definitely emphasize same.

As for intelligentsia, the cover has the blurb....
In This Issue: H.M. King George VI
A Profile By L.A. Nickolls
Official Correspondent to Buckingham Palace
also
ARTHUR HAYS SULZBERGER,DON IDDON,BEVERLY NICHOLS, IRIS ASHLEY, ROBERT C. RUARK, R.W. SYMONDS, WILFRED
KING, WM HENRY CHAMBERLIN.


As for Herr Chamberlin, sorry couldn't resist...
The mag has this little factoid.


Born in Brooklyn in 1897, William Henry Chamberlin is a graduate of Penn Charter School in Philadelphia
and of Haverford College. He went to Russia as correspondent for The Christian Science Monitor in 1922,
and spent twelve years in that country, also sending correspondence to the Manchester Guardian and the
Observer in London. Since 1945 he has been a regular editorial contributor to the Wall Street Journal
and an associate editor of the New Leader, a New York Weekly.

END

A curious possibility about The Londoner is that it seems to have ceased publication in 1963, although I am
not 100% about that, but I believe I am. What I am curious about and I was hoping some our more socialable
friends "across the pond," maybe even John Simkin might enlighten us about the Londoner's final issues such as
that name F.C. Millington [remember the publisher FNU in my world...], when was the final issue published,
any strange linkages to JFK assassination et cetera et cetera.


Remember when we win the whole team wins, to coin a phrase....



And just so no-one can say I didn't give the usual dull and ordinary post, there are some other
facts that have emerged...
Earlier we read that Chamberlin had spent some time in Philadelphia, which has more than a fleeting
place in JFK assassination lore...
Example
If Philadelphia’s links to the JFK Assassination were not a full slate already, [this is where both JFK and possibly Oswald would have gone next if the events of Dealey Plaza hadn’t taken place] there are other strange connections. Carmel Offie had grown up in the coalfields of Sharon, Pa., both parents were immigrants from Naples and Offie worked as a typist and stenographer at the Interstate Commerce Commission, he returned home long enough to enroll in a one-year business course in Johnstown Pennsylvania.*
* See The Old Boy’s Burton Hersh updated edition 2002 page 37
Then there is Ian Fleming’s real life James Bond, while it is correct to say William Harvey the former CIA Station Chief in Berlin was the inspiration for the James Bond character, fewer realize that there was a James Bond whom emerges in Burton Hersh’s updated, Old Boy’s. Referring to the period in time where Wild Bill Donovan was searching for someone familiar with “the paraphernalia of secret service.” After first considering Wallace Banta Phillips, Donovan settled on David K.E. Bruce.
obid p 79.
This selection according to Hersh, “gratified the British” at which point William Stephenson lent Washington his personal aide, Lt. Commander Ian Fleming. It is revealed later that the Bond Family lived in an estate outside Philadelphia, apparently Fleming met James Bond in Jamaica.



Better Example: Do any JFK researchers recall Rittenhouse Square?
I would certainly hope so....

If you do you will appreciate this little gem;
261. Commission Document 256 - FBI Wyland Report of 06 Jan 1964 12 pages re: Oswald
BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 12/11/63 Doctor H WALTER WENKAERT Director Universal School for Languages 216 South 20th Street advises he teaches and arranges.......
see Dr. H HENRY WENKAERT*
https://www.maryferr...6&relPageId=153


You won't understand the point if you don't read......
http://lemstream.blo...s-attached.html

SIMEON FETCHINA also stated the Russian-American Citizens Club was a club sponsored by the Holy Virgin Russian Orthodox Church at 28th Street and Snyder Avenue
JOHN RABIK explained an individual could not be a member of that club unless he was a member of the church which sponsors it. Unknown members can only attend
the social if accompanied by members. RABIK was unable to explain how the name of the club was found among the addresses in OSWALD’s possession
JOHN DRIMAK 2747 Snyder Avenue, advised he has been secretary, vice-president and trustee of the Russian-American Citizens Club, 2730 Snyder Avenue
since 1956 and was unable to recall the name of LEE HARVEY OSWALD or RUTH HYDE PAINE ever being associated with that club.
* His name doesent appear to be at find-a-grave but there are two Wenkaert’s both associated with Philadelphia
see

http://www.findagrav...=&df=all&GSob=n
Hans Wenkaert
(1909 - 1980)
Aviva Wenkaert
(1911 - 1981)
http://www.oldcheste...#Church History

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:20 AM

If anyone noticed that nothing posted earlier pertained to Operation Valkyrie, that is because
for some reason only half of what I had written appeared in the post.....

This is the pertinent item I had intended to add, which didn't appear for some reason.


page 136-136 LeMay : Great General Series Barrett Tillman
In 1954 LeMay dipped into his stash of old friends and got Lieutenant General Francis H. Griswold to succeed
Power as deputy SAC commander. LeMay and Griswold had served together forever: flying school, Hawaii and
Britain. Excepting their long association, Griswold was a surprise choice to relieve Power, never having served
in SAC. In fact, most of his previous service had been in fighters and ordnance or material positions. Nonetheless,
“Butch” Griswold was a popular deputy commander, possessing far more people skills than “Tommy” Power who
moved on to R&D.
Griswold was one of the few people who thoroughly understood LeMay. They were completely comfortable
together, often passing hours without exchanging a word. Their wives marveled at the mutually taciturn
airmen whose friendship seemed based more upon mental telepathy tha conversation.
However communications figured prominently in the LeMay-Griswold scheme of things. When Griswold arrived at
Offut he found the commander in chief absorbed with improving command and control by any means available.
Consequently, the deputy commander joined his boss in obtaiing a private radio license, and together they began
exploring the amateur radio frequency bands. Most of the bands were clogged with other amateur radio operators, but
the two persisted. Eventually they came upon the single sideband (SSB) option and built a set for experimentation.
SSB was inherently more discrete than the common bands, and lent itself to encryption technology. Consequently,
ignoring air force regualtions (after all they wore seven stars between them), LeMay had their set installed in an aircraft that Griswold flew to Japan.


Back in Omaha, LeMay kept in voice contact with his deputy and was pleasantly surprised at the relative clarity and
reliability of the side-band set. Thus began a lengthy campaign against the air force communications bureaucracy, which
was perhaps understandably reluctant to admit that a set built by a couple of generals offered better performance than
vastly more expensive government equipment. Lemay got around the official barriers by diverting some operating funds
to a dozen side-band sets that he deployed abroad: from Newfoundland to the Azores, Britain, Morocco, and elsewhere.
After a period of demonstrated success, the air force yielded to the LeMay-Griswold team and adopted high-frequency
side-band radios throughout the service.



Ironically one of LeMay's pet aircraft projects circa 1960-64 was an experimental aircraft called the XB-70 Valkyrie
ibid. pp. 161




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