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    Oswald in Mexico City

    John Simkin has kindly posted a series of photos related to the case. One set of photos is of Lee Oswald and his immediate family. Many times I have come accross the Lee Oswald photo(s) taken in Mexico City. As I recall these photos were taken by officials of the Cuban or Russian Embassy in Mexico City. Does anyone have an idea of who this Lee Oswald impersonator is? Possibly a CIA agent? --------------- Far fetched, but it would be interesting to find out a little more about Robert. Robert E. Lee Oswald Jr. => Oswald, an ex marine who could shoot? Oswald who could drive. A man who was in the USA and Texas while LHO was in Minsk. He was not impersonating his brother, was he? Among the photos are a few photos of Robert. Not exactly an exact Lee Oswald look-alike, but... Does anyone have any details of Robert's height, military records, shooting skills? Just curious. Antti
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    Gerald Patrick Hemming

    I was reading the Spartacus.schoolnet site and the biography on Gerry Hemming. In the biography John Simkin provides interesting information: I would like John or someone else to elaborate on this. As I recall Lee Oswald was discharged in September 1959 and soon left for Russia thereafter. Under what circumstances did Lee Oswald and Gerry Hemming meet? Was this during Lee's El Toro period? Furthermore John states: What were Hemming's travels? Did Gerry Hemming's and Lee Oswald's paths cross at any point? What are the source and the evidence suggesting this interesting claim?
  3. I know Chief Curry wrote a book, but have the other "higher ups" of the Dallas Police Department and/or the Sheriff's office spoken about their views of the investigation? Has Curry gone beyond his book? I'm particularly interested in what they had to say once the FBI took over the investigation, and what they had to say once the Warren Report came out. Do any Forum members have knowledge of what these men may have said? I'm sure that since Will Fritz was "in charge" of the investigation in the beginning, he would have been able to give some valuable insight, in the years that followed... The same goes for Decker too. Thanks.
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    Lee Harvey Oswald

    First of all I would like to thank Mr. Simkin for his contributions towards us having such a high quality forum available. Secondly it has been a pleasure to read the findings and opinions of so many seasoned Kennedy assassination specialists. Further I would like to point out that what I will write next is purely my opinion, which has been formed over the years during which I have been interested in this case. I have tried to be as objective as possible in assessing all the information that I have read about. My interest in the Kennedy assassination started in 1991 when I first saw Stone's movie JFK. I have been intensively reading and studying this issue for about one year now, although I have had somewhat limited time to invest in the matter I believe I have some foundation for my views. Due to limited time I haven't focused on examining what seems obvious about the case. Instead the issues which, as far as I know, remain unanswered are the most interesting ones. To me seems as the majority of the individuals focused on the Kennedy assassination can agree on some general, well-known basic (obvious) facts: • JFK was murdered by a number of assassins greater than one. This implies a conspiracy. • There was a serious attempt to frame Lee Harvey Oswald as the (sole) assassin. • A spectacular cover-up attempting to hide the true facts and witnesses of the murder-case started probably already well before November 22nd 1963. • In order for the cover-up to have been as successful as it was, it must have involved elements of the following: the media, the CIA, the Warren Commission, the conspirators and possibly the organized crime figures presented in many of the proposed theories. As we know their work wasn't perfect. • Unfortunately it is true that many high ranking US government officials, government related law enforcement institutions (and other) less official organizations have been heavily involved in the cover-up process. Not to mention the organized crime figures of that era. • A lot of false information is available. Most of it but not all of it has been generated by some of the institutions referred to above, in the hopes that it would create enough confusion and mistrust to undermine the truth, in case it should ever become known. Naturally also many individuals somehow related to Dallas or New Orleans in 1963, and their next-of-kin and associates have also played a part in falsely claiming foreknowledge of the event and/or actually having had a part in the crime of the century. The desire for money makes people do crazy stuff. I don't know if there are other's out there who have looked into Lee Harvey Oswald, and particularly how he was framed so cleverly, but I'm hoping someone can answer some of the questions that I have concerning his involvement. More precisely I'm interested in facts that helped such a vast number of the general public of the time become convinced that LHO was the sole assassin. 1. Who was LHO's CIA and mob contact? DeMohrenschildt? Ruby? Phillips? 2. Who put LHO up to shooting at General E. Walker? DeMohrenschildt? 3. Why did LHO agree to bring in the Mannlicher Carcano to work? 4. Why did LHO ask his wife to take the infamous backyard photos? 5. In case LHO knew what was going to go down, how did he expect to interfere and then escape unharmed? 6. Isn't it funny that a "high-society" man in his fifties is the best friend of LHO, who is 24 and unemployed or a laborer? Some other thoughts: Here's my view of how Ruby got involved: Ruby owed somebody in the mob big time, whether it was money or whether someone saved his life after he messed something up, I don't know. This probably happened a while back, before 1963, possibly already when he was in Chicago. November 24th 1963, was the day when it was time for Ruby to pay back. He had been told about what was going to go down in advance, and in case Oswald was arrested it would be Ruby's duty to go "take care of it". LHO had to be done because there was a risk that he might talk, since he knew way too much (much more than Ruby). Of course to make it more interesting for Ruby, he was told: "if you won't do it right, we'll start by getting your sister, then your brother and then everyone else. So don't miss." Ruby of course was relieved when he heard Oswald was dead, now he didn't have to fear for the lives of his family. Well, as long as he didn't talk himself. He considered spilling the beans when he spoke to the commission in jail. Well, we all know the rest... I think Jim Garrison was on the right tracks; however I believe he encountered the figures who were more involved in the sheep dipping. I think that's what the whole New Orleans thing had to do with. As if it wasn't enough that LHO had already "defected" to Russia, he had to be made to seem like a full blown commie to the public. I wonder why he went along with that, so far? The Conspirators: Well, for me this would be the hardest to explain (due to lack of evidence, if you don't include individual statements). However, if you take some select members of the John Birch Society (Dallas, Texas mostly), wealthy (Dallas) Texas oil men, their friends in Washington DC you will probably have at least some of the high level organizers. There's a definite link from Oswald to DeMohrenschildt, from DeMohrenschildt to Murchison, from Murchison to Hunt etc. etc. to Washington DC. The men with money financed the entire deal. The Mob: In addition to having Ruby by the balls, they could have provided one or more shooters for the plaza. Lt. Col. Dan Marvin said something to this effect; "in the US the mafia would take care of the hits". In my view whether the actual shooters were ex-military, current military or purely mafia trained sharpshooters isn't that significant. If anyone would like to comment or provide answers to one or more of the questions that I have, I would be grateful. Antti Hynönen Helsinki, Finland
  5. Lee Harvey Oswald's acquaintances from the Marines, questioned by the Warren Commission are all from one of the following places: 1) Santa Ana California 2) Atsugi Japan 3) Keesler MS, USA Has anyone else ever wondered why there are almost no Army buddies from October 1956 - May 1957? Surely, he had some acquaintances during and immediately after his basic training? Here is a list of Oswald's Army buddies (questioned by the WC) and where they served together: Botelho, Santa Ana Call, Santa Ana Camarata, Kessler, Biloxi MS and El Toro Connor, Atsugi Delgado, Santa Ana Donovan, Santa Ana Graf, Santa Ana and El Toro Heidel, aka Hidell, Atsugi Japan Lewis, Santa Ana Murphy, Atsugi and Santa Ana Murray, Santa Ana Osborne, Santa Ana Powers, Keesler MS and Atsugi Japan Roussel, Santa Ana Thornley, El Toro Also here are a few interesting sections from Donovan's testimony. Also a section of Mac Osborne's: From WC inerrogations: Mr. ELY. Do you recall the circumstances under which Oswald left the Marine Corps? Mr. DONOVAN. Yes; I do. Mr. ELY. Could you relate them to us, please? Mr. DONOVAN. I recall that he got a hardship discharge. We offered to get him a flight---that is a hop from El Toro to some place in Texas, his home. He refused. We considered that normal in that if you take a hop you sacrifice your transportation pay. We offered to take him to a bus or train station. He refused. But that is not particularly unusual, either. I recall that he was gone for some period of time, and shortly before I got out of the Marine Corps, which was mid-December 1959, we received word that he had showed up in Moscow. This necessitated a lot of change of aircraft call signs, codes, radio frequencies, radar frequencies. He had the access to the location of all bases in the west coast area, all radio frequencies for all squadrons, all tactical call signs, and the relative strength of all squadrons, number and type of aircraft in a squadron, who was the commanding officer, the authentication code of entering and exiting the ADIZ, which stands for Air Defense Identification Zone. He knew the range of our radar. He knew the range of our radio. And he knew the range of the surrounding units' radio and radar. If you had asked me a month after I left that area, I could not have told you any but our own. Had I wanted to record them, I certainly could have secretly, and taken them with me. Unless he intentionally with malice aforethought wrote them down, I doubt if he wonts have been able to recall them a month later, either. Mr. ELY. Did Oswald have any kind of clearance? Mr. DONOVAN. He must have had secret clearance to work in the radar center, because that was a minimum requirement for all of us. Mr. ELY. Did you ever pick Oswald to act as crew chief? Mr. DONOVAN. There was occasion when Oswald acted as crew chief. If one of these sergeants had another duty somewhere else, and Oswald was senior man present, he was crew chief. And I had no complaint about his work. Mr. ELY. Did he show any special ability in this direction? Mr. DONOVAN. Yes; I think he was competent, very competent. And I think he did his job well. I don't recall anything coming up that he could not handle. Mr. ELY. In acting as crew chief, do you think he demonstrated leadership qualities? Mr. DONOVAN. I don't think he was a leader. Mr. ELY. However, is it fair to say that any reservations you have about his ability as a leader were not sufficient to make you decide never to use him as a crew chief again? Mr. DONOVAN. I would not hesitate to use him as a crew chief. _________________________________________________ AFFIDAVIT OF MACK OSBORNE The following affidavit was executed by Mack Osborne on May 18, 1964. STATE OF TEXAS County of Lubbock, ss: I, Mack Osborne, 2816 43rd Street, Lubbock, Texas, being first duly sworn, depose and say: That while I was in the United States Marine Corps, I served in Marine Air Control Squadron 9 in Santa Ann, California, with Lee Harvey Oswald. Prior to his discharge, I shared a room with him. Oswald was at that time studying Russian. He spent a great deal of his free time reading papers printed in Russian--which I believe he bought in Los Angeles--with the aid of a Russian-English dictionary. I believe he also had some books written in Russian, although I do not remember their names. I once asked Oswald why he did not go out in the evening like the other men. He replied that he was saving his money, making some statement to the effect that one day he would do something which would make him famous. In retrospect, it is my belief--although he said nothing to this effect--that he had his trip to Russia in mind when he made this statement._____________________________________
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    Diana Bowron and JFK's Back Wound

    The nurses undressed the President after he was pronounced dead. Upon removing the clothes off the victim, they should have noticed and mentioned the obvious (bullet) holes in the clothes. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/henchlif.htm I do not recall them discussing the back wound, only the small round neck wound, below the Adam's apple.
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    JFK Forum: Rules of Behaviour and other points

    As of today all moderators have been instructed to set all posts in violation of Forum rules as invisible. Breaking forum rules, includes posts with clear personal attacks, cursing etc. If your post becomes suddenly invisible, it is because your post does not comply with Forum rules. Normally such posts will not be set to visible again. The Education Forum rules are available on the Forum for all to see. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9792 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2243 On behalf of the Moderators Antti Hynonen
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    note to evan or a mod please

    Posting here seems to work: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16835&st=20 I see that you have 2 posts on page 2. Is something still missing? I don't know what else I could do from my end to facilitate? Antti
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    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    Replying to bolded section below. I do not agree that Burton should limit his number of replies to a number less than those posted by White & Fetzer. Judging from posts from page 8&9 thus far, Burton has not posted significantly more than Fetzer&White together. I see no need to moderate this thread at this time. Antti ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    Black Dog Man { BDM }

    Thanks. Helps me in seeing the bigger picture. Antti No problem, Antti. Ist Pic 2nd Pic
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    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    Hi, The whole thread is confusing, in particular the agreed "rules". I have here Burton's and your agreement: ------------------------------------------- Posted 24 August 2010 - 12:46 PM, Evan Burton: I'd be happy with: Jack posts claim I respond Jim addresses my reply I respond to Jim last post Jim makes final comments Next image. Jim gets last word, we each make 2 posts regarding the image. It is still important, though, that Jim addresses my rebuttal to the claim, and I address the points Jim raises in his rebuttal. We must stay on topic. Gary will decide if a participant is not adressing claims or going off topic. -------------------------------------------- Then I have your comment to the above: -------------------------------------------- Posted 24 August 2010 - 03:40 PM; James H. Fetzer: This is a good plan, which I endorse. I would like to see the thread "cleaned up" as I have recommended. The moon rock issue has not been resolved. I mentioned it in post #7, he replied in #10 and I commented in #12. There is much more to be said on this subject, which I will bring up again in relation to the "Moon Movie" section. Clearly, it is a crucial question. I suggest deleting the other moon rock posts as well as those in which Evan indulges in his penchant for the use of RED and so on, which Gary can easily delete. If Gary thinks a section of the debate has had enough attention, he can recommend that we move on and afford an opportunity for each of us to explain why that is or why that is not a good idea. Many thanks. When Jack has several studies I would like him to post that are related to the same issue, such as those related to the moon rover, it would be appropriate to post them as a group to illustrate the dimensions of the issue being addressed. The idea of only posting one image at a time is really inappropriate, since they are evidence that is supportive of a single argument, which, in this case, is that at least some of the rover photos appear to have been faked. If Jack has five that I would like posted, it would be ridiculous to have him post five separate photos with five separate sequences of argumentative exchange. So that suggestion was a bad one. Otherwise, however, I would like to begin with Jack's moon rover photographs. ------------------------------------------------ According to this, Burton gets at least 2 posts per claim. If the rules have changed again, I refuse to moderate this mess. Antti
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    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    Evan, I can not see why not. This thread was for you and Fetzer.
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    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    I have investigated these posts, and as far as I can tell, both posts 7 and 42 are intact. They are posts by Jack White, neither has been deleted nor made invisible. Regards, Antti Hynonen Moderator
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    Black Dog Man { BDM }

    Duncan, Can you post (or post a link) to the original photos used in this study, please? Thanks. Antti
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    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    Jack, reviewing your old posts and following what you have said/claimed in the past is a normal way to conduct research and participate on this forum. By doing this, another member is not "stalking you". I agree an apology is in place!
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    John David Hurt

    Jim, Fascinating stuff. It would be fantastic if we could somehow find out more about your section 6 and the Tikander, Shepardson, Hurt etc. meeting on the Helsinki aspect. The time of events does tie in very nicely with Oswald's trip.
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    LBJ and Israel lobby

    They need to check that date. It's probably 1962? On Dec 27th 1963, Kennedy had been dead for a month.
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    Test Poll

    Same here, Results are: Choice A [ 1 ] ** [100.00%] Choice B [ 0 ] ** [0.00%] Choice C [ 0 ] ** [0.00%] Total Votes: 4 Mine appeared to be the 4th one, and no vote was entered by me either, you have already voted in this poll is what it says. And when I go back to vote, it does not let me cast a vote, bummer, I wanted to vote for C.
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    Undiscovered Photographer?

    Thanks Duncan. Hmmm.... much of the clothing does match the description from before.
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    Undiscovered Photographer?

    The person in question seems to be wearing a light blue/gray jacket or sweater, and a red or reddish brown skirt and white socks. What was Linda Phillis wearing that day? Are there other photos or film where this person might be present, for a better id? Mr. Gary Mack chimes in and tells me that Linda Willis did not have a camera that day.
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    Undiscovered Photographer?

    Duncan, That is exactly what I thought, a circular motion with her right hand. Were there cameras in use in 1963 that needed to be wound in such a way? Also there is a reflection of sunlight off of her forehead, it seems that it is of a blue or silver shade, not a skin tone, which in my mind could mean e.g. a camera. I keep wondering whether another Dealey plaza film showing the assassination will pop up one day. I am hoping for one that would answer some questions.
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    NEW;;''the throat wound ''

    Thank you for your reply. I can "buy" most of your reply. Especially the short round/round that hit something else first, that explains the back wound , the short round theory explains the different sound. No problems there. However, from what I have seen in terms of blows to the back (hits, stabbing etc.) I have to say Kennedy's reaction is not the same as any of those. In a hit to the back one would curl and try and reach the area affected (in the back), this is not the case in e.g. Zapruder. It is possible that the wound below the Adam's apple is not an entry wound. Ok. If so, where is the entry? I just can not conceive that after emerging from behind the highway sign, Kennedy is not reacting to the wound found below his Adam's apple, I think if we can assume and conclude anything from this case, then, in my opinion, the wound in the anterior neck and Kennedy's reaction before frame 313 are one of the most straight forward issues. One may say:" They go together like two peas in a pod". Antti Antti, Please forgive the long way around the barn here, but it is needed so please bear with me. I have once again been looking very strongly at the SBT, and have been commenting on it. However it is not a position I am ready to fully accept yet. Having said that, and maintaining my original position of the shooting event, I believe JFK is reacting to a very sharp blow to the back, a non-penetrating wound. A wound that went in no more than 2". What I see is a man who has taken a heck of a blow and has had the wind knocked from him. He does seem to be having some issue with breath. Something to consider here is that the MC bullet when penetrating to a depth of 2" exerts 60 ft lbs of energy to make that penetration, this would be caused by A) the bullet striking something else first, of B ) A short round, one that lacks for what ever reason, the power of a full round. Tom Purvis, whom I admire greatly believes the round hit something else first, I am not so sure. I think it is possible it is a short load. Tom however makes an excellent point that the bullet base of 399 does seem to fit the wound dimensions well. I chew on this often. Think of how many witnesses say the first round sounded different. A short round would sound different. This is the position I have held for quite some time. However, some of the work I have been doing in relation to the SBT brings some SOLID questions and have to be accounted for. One of them being how in hades do we reconcile the fact that JFK is hit with a 55* impact angle and JBC a 57* impact angle. I do NOT buy the idea of a tumbling bullet, had that been the case then they would have easily probed JFK's wound. A tumbling bullet leaves a horrific wound path. I also do not buy that the neck wound was one of entry. There is NO exit for it and the wound would have been horrific. We see no such thing. Mike
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    NEW;;''the throat wound ''

    Ok, fair enough. What (wound or event) do you then suggest he is reacting to? Please elaborate. Thanks.
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    NEW;;''the throat wound ''

    Posterior neck? Don't you mean anterior neck, since you're citing the adams apple? Yes, You're quite right. I meant anterior. Sorry.