Douglas Caddy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 New Film Footage of Jack Ruby Surfaces https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2017/12/new-film-footage-of-jack-ruby-surfaces/?fbclid=IwAR1YWQy2cmr_clVoymm2Ny0-BJ4lpO7ooTIe0mGrQjDP9weLEJsWv7U_nLc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 A minox camera? Amazing how many people had these back then Jim D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Krome Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 At the 50sec mark of the video, the man with the camera is holding a black case in his left hand. Could be a camera case. I believe Light Meters came in black case too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 This video was presented and discussed here a year or so ago. The gist of it was why did Ruby have such a either not available to the public at the time or very expensive camera, given he was "cheap" in other respects. Despite his efforts to appear otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Boy is that interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: The gist of it was why did Ruby have such a either not available to the public at the time or very expensive camera... But it's the OTHER MAN (standing next to Ruby) who is holding the object you say is a "camera" (even though you can't possibly tell exactly what it is at all). Ruby isn't holding it. I guess you must think Ruby has just handed this other man the object, with the other man then looking at it in such a way as if he's saying, "Hey, this is a cool thing. Where did you get this, Jack?" ..... is that correct? http://drive.google.com/file/1960 Video Of Jack Ruby (Combing Hair, At The 1:15 Mark) Edited January 23, 2019 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Krome Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) On 1/23/2019 at 2:08 PM, David Von Pein said: object you say is a "camera" (even though you can't possibly tell exactly what it is at all) He holds it like a camera, definitely not a harmonica, too high on the face Edited August 2, 2020 by Tony Krome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Is that man with the camera the same guy standing next to Ruby at 1:15? Could be. But, again, it's not RUBY with the camera/object. It's some other unknown person. https://drive.google.com/file/d/143opZnTaprXuRpEsGz1TBFuw8tZlWVJT/view Edited January 23, 2019 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Tony Krome said: He holds it like a camera, definitely not a harmonica, too high on the face Is whether that is a camera or not controversial? He's holding the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Krome Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Bob Ness said: Is whether that is a camera or not controversial? He's holding the case. No controversy, if you read the above posts, you will see where Dave commented on the last few seconds of the video clip where it shows a man next to Ruby handling an object. Those few seconds on their own do not determine if the object is a camera or not, but what appears to be the same man seen earlier in the clip at the 50sec mark is holding what seems to be the same object to his face, like a camera. The camera may belong to that man or may not, we don't know. As far as the Minox relevance and similarity of the camera, here is Detective Gus Rose on property from the Paine household; "We found this camera and of course, we brought it and a whole lot of other property in, as possible evidence in the case. And, uh, while we were marking the evidence for later identification by us to be used in evidence we did, Stowall and I, did take a close look at this Minox miniature camera and it did have a roll of film in it. As time passed and after the Warren Commission was appointed, uh, a couple of F.B.I. agents made three different trips to our office to talk to me about this camera. They said that after they had received all the property they found that I had made a mistake, and that really wasn't a camera, it was a Minox light meter. However, as I told them at the time, I was sure that I had not made a mistake, it definitely was a camera and definitely did have film in it. However, they wanted me to change that in our property invoice to read Minox light meter and not read Minox camera. We never did change it. Uh, Captain Fritz instructed me if I was sure I was right not to make any changes in any reports, to stay with what was right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François Carlier Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) - Edited January 23, 2019 by François Carlier change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony Krome said: No controversy, if you read the above posts, you will see where Dave commented on the last few seconds of the video clip where it shows a man next to Ruby handling an object. Those few seconds on their own do not determine if the object is a camera or not, but what appears to be the same man seen earlier in the clip at the 50sec mark is holding what seems to be the same object to his face, like a camera. The camera may belong to that man or may not, we don't know. As far as the Minox relevance and similarity of the camera, here is Detective Gus Rose on property from the Paine household; "We found this camera and of course, we brought it and a whole lot of other property in, as possible evidence in the case. And, uh, while we were marking the evidence for later identification by us to be used in evidence we did, Stowall and I, did take a close look at this Minox miniature camera and it did have a roll of film in it. As time passed and after the Warren Commission was appointed, uh, a couple of F.B.I. agents made three different trips to our office to talk to me about this camera. They said that after they had received all the property they found that I had made a mistake, and that really wasn't a camera, it was a Minox light meter. However, as I told them at the time, I was sure that I had not made a mistake, it definitely was a camera and definitely did have film in it. However, they wanted me to change that in our property invoice to read Minox light meter and not read Minox camera. We never did change it. Uh, Captain Fritz instructed me if I was sure I was right not to make any changes in any reports, to stay with what was right." Ah. Seems like there are a few of the same people in the shot at :50 and 1:15 aside from Minox guy. Interesting but Minox cameras weren't that unusual when I was a kid and not that expensive if I recall. But that was late 60s. Maybe my memory fails me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Krome Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) On 1/23/2019 at 5:27 PM, Bob Ness said: Ah. Seems like there are a few of the same people in the shot at :50 and 1:15 aside from Minox guy. Interesting but Minox cameras weren't that unusual when I was a kid and not that expensive if I recall. But that was late 60s. Maybe my memory fails me... 1960 Minox advertisement. $100 in 1960 would be around $800 today Edited August 9, 2020 by Tony Krome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony Krome said: No controversy, if you read the above posts, you will see where Dave commented on the last few seconds of the video clip where it shows a man next to Ruby handling an object. Those few seconds on their own do not determine if the object is a camera or not, but what appears to be the same man seen earlier in the clip at the 50sec mark is holding what seems to be the same object to his face, like a camera. The camera may belong to that man or may not, we don't know. As far as the Minox relevance and similarity of the camera, here is Detective Gus Rose on property from the Paine household; "We found this camera and of course, we brought it and a whole lot of other property in, as possible evidence in the case. And, uh, while we were marking the evidence for later identification by us to be used in evidence we did, Stowall and I, did take a close look at this Minox miniature camera and it did have a roll of film in it. As time passed and after the Warren Commission was appointed, uh, a couple of F.B.I. agents made three different trips to our office to talk to me about this camera. They said that after they had received all the property they found that I had made a mistake, and that really wasn't a camera, it was a Minox light meter. However, as I told them at the time, I was sure that I had not made a mistake, it definitely was a camera and definitely did have film in it. However, they wanted me to change that in our property invoice to read Minox light meter and not read Minox camera. We never did change it. Uh, Captain Fritz instructed me if I was sure I was right not to make any changes in any reports, to stay with what was right." Yeah not cheap I suppose but not out of reach either. Thanks for the memory prompt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) It depends which camera. Some were more expensive then others. Moreover, you have to include the meter in the price. The WC tells us LHO was having money issues. Yet, he could afford this camera? If he had money problems why not sell the camera? Here is some good material on it. http://www.minoxdoc.com/collection.htm Edited January 23, 2019 by Cory Santos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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