When was the last time ANY member of the CFR said anything CLOSE to the truth on the JFK Assassination?

[Guest Robert Morrow]

Question: When was the last time any member of the Council on Foreign Relations said anything CLOSE to resembling the TRUTH in the JFK assassination? I define "truth" as being that John Kennedy was slaughtered by an elite domestic political conspiracy.

Check out this CFR list:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall2.htm

In fact, three very prominent members of the CFR helped orchestrate the cover up of JFK's death on the Warren Commission: 1) Allen Dulles, president of CFR 1946-1950 and 2) John J. McCloy, Chairman of CFR 1953-1970. 3) Gerald Ford - future president, also a member of the CFR. Henry Kissinger for years the closest aide to Nelson Rockefeller - high ranking CFR member. Bill Moyers, LBJ's aide who ordered the bubbletop taken off - member of CFR. Bill Moyers ALSO was instrumental in having the Men Who Killed Kennedy (the Guilty Men) pulled off the History Channel because it got to close to the truth on the JFK assassination as it fingered Lyndon Johnson.

Besides COVERING UP the JFK Assassination, I think it is very likely that CFR member and former CIA chief Allen Dulles and perhaps Nelson and David Rockefeller were INVOLVED in the JFK Assassination. If Edward Lansdale was involved [Dallas photo ID by Col. Fletcher Prouty and Gen. Victor Krukak], then it is very likely Allen Dulles was involved. And if Allen Dulles was involved, then deep CIA Nelson Rockefeller was probably involved in the assassination of John Kennedy.

David Rockefeller, Nelson's brother, de facto head of CFR and Trilateral Commission and key Bilderberger.

Nelson Rockefeller - CFR member - probably involved in JFK assassination.

George Herbert Walker Bush - probably involved in JFK Assassination - longtime CFR member. http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

Here is George Herbert Walker Bush literally LAUGHING as he defends the Warren Commission and the Big Lie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNheVODT8Mg

Nicholas Katzenbach - CFR member - he is the guy who wrote the memo saying the Americans must be made to believe that LHO did it all. http://www.jfklancer.com/Katzenbach.html

CFR member Bill Moyers was the guy who Katzenbach wrote this memo to.

Jack Valenti (1988) - CFR member. Another JFK Assassination cover up artist into 2003 as he got the History Channel to axe the Men Who Killed Kennedy (The Guilty Men).

William Coleman CFR, staff lawyer for Warren Commission. He was one of the WC lawyers that went down to Mexico City to listen to those tapes of the impersonator Oswald. Coleman's WC performance was his ticket to advancement, Transportation Secretary under Ford. Also, a member of the Rockefeller created Trilateral Commission and a member of the elite establishment Aspen Institute. O'Melveny & Myers is his law firm.

John McCain - CFR member - called Kennedy assassination "an intervention." Henry Kissinger, who was the closest aide to Nelson Rockefeller for decades, was John McCain's most enthusiastic insider player supporter. McCain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBAsHTSbkXs

Jimmy Carter - President and CFR member- he wrote a letter, along with Jack Valenti and CFR Bill Moyers, pressuring the History Channel to remove The Men Who Killed Kennedy (the Guilty Men) which got too close to the truth fingering Lyndon Johnson for the JFK assassination. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5774

(Note Lady Bird Johnson and CFR Gerald Ford, Warren Commission cover up artist also wrote letters.)

Theodore Sorensen - Kennedy aide - CFR member -doesn't he support the Warren Commission?

McGeorge Bundy - NSC head for both JFK and LBJ - CFR member. Never heard him question Warren Commission.

Peter Jennings (deceased) - CFR member - ridiculous 2003 special "Beyond Conspiracy" promoting lone nut theory and pushing ridiculous magic bullet theory hard. Also, Bilderberger.

Anthony Lewis CFR New York Times liberal columnist. Read the book Brothers by David Talbott on p. 281 and you can how Anthony Lewis "took the lead in knocking down conspiracy theories" and supporting the Warren Report farce ..."over the years, Lewis would continue to disparage critics of the Warren Report, but he seemed to be less certain of his convictions." (Brothers, p. 281)

Tom Brokaw - CFR member - somebody tell me what HE says about JFK Assassination.

Dan Rather - longtime CBS - CFR member - pathetic record on JFK assassination. Said in 30 years not one shred of evidence pointing to conspiracy; said JFK's head was thrust forward on kill shot!

About Rather:

"But the biggest distortion is what he said he saw when he was one of the few persons in the world privileged to see the Abraham Zapruder film that Saturday morning, November 23. In his narration of the film as part of CBS nationwide television coverage, Rather said the President's head "went forward with considerable violence." This narration confirmed the so-called "Oswald position" for the nation, but he said nothing about the violent backward motion of the President's head which would have strongly suggested a second gunman at that early date."

CFR Charles Krauthammer, very influential columnist: "In my naivete, I used to think that Hollywood had achieved its nadir with Oliver Stone's "JFK," a film that taught a generation of Americans that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA and the FBI in collaboration with Lyndon Johnson. But at least it was for domestic consumption, an internal affair of only marginal interest to other countries."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/02/AR2006030201209.html

Daniel Schorr - NPR - CFR Member - always putting down conspiracy theories on JFK

George Will CFR member - "Shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing, which it seems was carried out by mental cases who see black United Nations helicopters everywhere, George Will accused Oliver Stone of laying the foundations of this mass murder. On This Week With David Brinkley, Will argued that the movie JFK had taught people to fear their government." (quote of Ulric Shannon).

David Gergen - CFR member -

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/gergen/carnes_12-26.html

"let me go back to the other--another movie by Mr. Stone--"JFK," this past year the American Society of Newspaper Editors, a former aide to Robert Kennedy and later editor and publisher John Zegentholer, questioned Mr. Stone about his movie. He--Zegentholer had appeared before a high school class and found that many of them had seen the movie and were convinced that Lyndon Johnson was guilty of a conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy, and he said this, "Is there any regret on your part, Mr. Stone, for what I consider to be a blood libel on Lyndon Johnson for that accusation of murder?" Is it only an entertainment then?"

Bill Moyers, CFR:

"Moyers had been on the phone with Ms. Harris, informing her that the President did not want the bubbletop. He told Harris to 'get that God-damned bubble off unless it's pouring rain.' Shortly thereafter the weather began to clear. Ms. Harris approached Sorrels about the bubble-top and together they had the agents remove the glass top."

[Phillip Nelson, LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, p.428] Nelson's source for this quote is HSCA, Volume 11, p. 526.

Stephen Rosenfeld CFR of the Washington Post, states seven paragraphs into his commentary: "That the assassination probably encompassed more than a lone gunman now seems beyond cavil."

John Seigenthaler - CFR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations - CFR on Wiki

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm

Jonathan Alter (CFR): on the movie "JFK" in the 1998 "A Century of the Movies" Special Issue of Newsweek, p. 70.

"Woodrow Wilson was wrong when he said in 1915 that movies were "like writing history with lightening" . . . The movie to which Wilson was referring was D.W. Griffith's "The Birth of a Nation," one of the first feature-length films and a tremendously innovative picture. But the film reinforced crude racist stereotypes and glorified the Ku Klux Klan . . . . More than three quarters of a century later, Oliver Stone's "JFK" — departing wildly from demonstrable historical fact — provides its own form of reactive history. Stone claims he's simply engaged in creative "countermyth," but like Griffith, he is actually pandering, this time to the conspiracymongers who dominate public perception of the Kennedy assassination. The truly brave film would be about Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone.

Bobbie Ray Inman (CFR): told me in an interview in 2009 that he would go to his grave thinking that Fidel Castro had killed JFK. Inman in a cordial interview pointed out that Castro had penetrated US intelligence and knew about the Bay of Pigs invasion. [Honestly, I got the feeling that Inman does not know much about the JFK assassination; I think a lot of it is willful ignorance.]

Here is CFR member Michael Beschloss falsely blaming it all on Lee Harvey Oswald, who Beschloss describes as a "surly little egoist."

"Many Americans are now certain that had JFK lived to win a second term, he would have spared the nation its tragic adventure in Southeast Asia. The assassination in Dallas obliterated the rationality and hope that were the outward hallmarks of the Kennedy presidency and of most of American public life. That sense of confident well-being was replaced with what the novelist Don DeLillo described as "a world of randomness." Many presume that without the disillusionment that followed Dallas and Vietnam, we would be living in a happier and more innocent country. And because it is difficult to tolerate the notion that this historical transformation could turn on something so trivial as the caprice of a surly little egotist, a grander design has been sought — in the Mafia, in foreign intelligence services, in the Cubans, the Russians, the CIA." (Newsweek, November 22, 1993, p. 62.)

Michael Gerson (CFR): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/10/AR2011011006310.html

Notable current council members:

OFFICE NAME

Co-Chairman of the Board Carla A. Hills

Co-Chairman of the Board Robert E. Rubin

Vice Chairman Richard E. Salomon

President Richard N. Haass

Board of Directors

Director Peter Ackerman

Director Fouad Ajami

Director Madeleine Albright

Director Charlene Barshefsky

Director Henry Bienen

Director Alan Blinder

Director Stephen W. Bosworth

Director Tom Brokaw

Director Sylvia Mathews Burwell

Director Frank J. Caufield

Director Kenneth Duberstein

Director Richard N. Foster

Director Stephen Friedman

Director Ann M. Fudge

Director Maurice R. Greenberg

Director J. Tomilson Hill

Director Richard Holbrooke

Director Alberto Ibargüen

Director Shirley Ann Jackson

Director Henry Kravis

Director Jami Miscik

Director Joseph Nye

Director Ronald L. Olson

Director James W. Owens

Director Colin Powell

Director David Rubenstein

Director George E. Rupp

Director Anne-Marie Slaughter

Director Joan E. Spero

Director Vin Weber

Director Christine Todd Whitman

Director Fareed Zakaria

Erin Burnett - CNBC News Anchor[24]

Timothy Shriver[25]

Madeleine Albright, 64th United States Secretary of State

Sandy Berger (United States National Security Advisor under President Bill Clinton)

Michael R. Bloomberg (Current Mayor of New York City)

Bill Brock (former Republican United States Senator from Tennessee)

Edgar Bronfman (a member of the Bronfman dynasty, president of the World Jewish Congress)

Ethan Bronner (deputy foreign editor of The New York Times)

Zbigniew Brzezinski (United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter)

George H.W. Bush, 41st President of the United States

Jonathan S. Bush (healthcare CEO, son of Jonathan Bush, brother of NBC entertainment reporter Billy Bush)

Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States

Dick Cheney, 46th Vice President of the United States

Warren Christopher (former United States Secretary of State)

Bill Clinton, 42nd President of the United States

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 67th United States Secretary of State

Paul Cravath, name partner of law firm Cravath, Swaine & Moore

Michael Crow (president of Arizona State University)

Peggy Dulany (fourth child of David Rockefeller)

Lawrence Eagleburger ( former United States Secretary of State under President George H. W. Bush)

Roger W. Ferguson, Jr.

Noah Feldman (academic and author)

Alan H. Fleischmann (Co-Founder of ImagineNations Group)

Mikhail Fridman (Russian oligarch, International Advisory Board member)

Thomas Friedman (journalist, The New York Times)

Robert M. Gates (United States Secretary of Defense, former Director of Central Intelligence)

Alan Greenspan (former Chairman of the Federal Reserve)

Chris Heinz (Heir to the H. J. Heinz Company ketchup fortune)

Warren Hoge (American journalist)

Sheila Johnson President of the Washington Mystics

Angelina Jolie (UN Goodwill Ambassador)[26]

Vernon Jordan (close advisor to President William J. Clinton)

Robert Kagan (cofounded Project for the New American Century)

Henry Kissinger, 56th United States Secretary of State

Paula Zahn - news media, formerly an anchor on CNN

Mario Mancuso, partner at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, and former senior national security official

John McCain, United States Senator from Arizona

Ken Mehlman[27]

Heather Nauert, journalist for Fox News

David Stern Commissioner of the NBA

Henry Paulson (United States Treasury Secretary)

Norman Podhoretz (former editor-in-chief of "Commentary", senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, Project for the New American Century (PNAC) signatory)

Steve Poizner (California businessman and Republican politician)

Colin Powell, 65th United States Secretary of State

Charles Prince (chief executive officer of Citigroup)

Condoleezza Rice, 66th United States Secretary of State

Kitty Pilgrim, Journalist for CNN

Keith A. Ridley, IV(Washington,DC Businessman)

Alice Rivlin (economist, former U.S. cabinet member)

David Rockefeller, Jr.

John D. Rockefeller, IV

Nicholas A. Rockefeller (Controversial banker)

Mark B. Rosenberg (President of Florida International University)

George Shultz, 60th United States Secretary of State

Walter B. Slocombe (former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy)

Paul Volcker (former Chairman of the Federal Reserve)

Shirley Williams, Baroness Williams of Crosby (International Advisory Board member)

Adam Wolfensohn

James D. Wolfensohn (former president of the World Bank)

Paul Wolfowitz (former president of the World Bank, former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense)

James Woolsey (former Director of Central Intelligence and former head of the Central Intelligence Agency)

Robert Zoellick (President of the World Bank)

[edit] List of Chairmen

Russell Cornell Leffingwell 1946-53

John J. McCloy 1953-70

David Rockefeller 1970-85

Peter G. Peterson 1985-2007

Carla A. Hills (co-chairman) 2007-

Robert E. Rubin (co-chairman) 2007-

[edit] List of Presidents

John W. Davis 1921-33

George W. Wickersham 1933-36

Norman H. Davis 1936-44

Russell Cornell Leffingwell 1944-46

Allen Welsh Dulles 1946-50

Henry Merritt Wriston 1951-64

Grayson L. Kirk 1964-71

Bayless Manning 1971-77

Winston Lord 1977-85

John Temple Swing 1985-86 (Pro tempore)

Peter Tarnoff 1986-93

Alton Frye 1993

Leslie Gelb 1993-2003

Richard N. Haass 2003-

[edit] Notable historical members

Graham Allison

Robert Orville Anderson

Les Aspin

Kenneth Bacon (1944-2009), Department of Defense spokesman who later served as president of Refugees International.[28]

J. Bowyer Bell[29]

W. Michael Blumenthal

Amy Bondurant

Harold Brown

Zbigniew Brzezinski

William P. Bundy

George H. W. Bush

William S. Cohen

Warren Christopher

E. Gerald Corrigan

William J. Crowe

Kenneth W. Dam

John W. Davis

Norman Davis

C. Douglas Dillon

Thomas R. Donahue

Lewis W. Douglas

Elizabeth Drew

Peggy Dulany

Allen Welsh Dulles

Dianne Feinstein

Tom Foley

Leslie H. Gelb

David Gergen

Louis V. Gerstner, Jr.

Joachim Gfoeller

Maurice R. Greenberg

Alan Greenspan

Chuck Hagel

Najeeb E. Halaby

W. Averell Harriman

Gabriel Hauge

Theodore M. Hesburgh

Carla A. Hills

Stanley Hoffmann

Richard Holbrooke

James R. Houghton

Charlayne Hunter-Gault

Bobby Ray Inman

Otto H. Kahn

Nicholas Katzenbach

Lane Kirkland

Jeane Kirkpatrick

Walter Lippmann

Winston Lord

Charles Mathias, Jr.

John McCain

John J. McCloy

William J. McDonough

Donald F. McHenry

George J. Mitchell

Roger T. Moritz

Bill Moyers

Peter George Peterson

Frank Polk

John S. Reed

Elliot L. Richardson

Keith A. Ridley,IV

Alice M. Rivlin

David Rockefeller

Jay Rockefeller

Robert Roosa

Elihu Root

William D. Ruckelshaus

Robert A. Scalapino

Brent Scowcroft

Donna E. Shalala

George P. Shultz

Theodore Sorensen

George Soros

Adlai E. Stevenson

Strobe Talbott

Peter Tarnoff

Fred Thompson

Garrick Utley

Cyrus Vance

Paul Volcker

Paul M. Warburg

Paul Warnke

Clifton R. Wharton, Jr.

Owen D. Young

Robert Zoellick

Source: The Council on Foreign Relations from 1921 to 1996:Historical Roster of Directors and Officers[30]

[edit] Other notable historical members

Robert J. Alexander

Conrad Black, newspaper publisher

Spruille Braden

McGeorge Bundy, U.S. National Security Advisor (1961–1966)

William Bundy, foreign policy advisor to Kennedy and Johnson Administrations

C. Douglas Dillon, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury (1961–1965)

Allen Dulles, Director of Central Intelligence (1953–1961)

John Foster Dulles, U.S. Secretary of State (1953–1959)

Gerald Ford, 38th President of the United States

Sergei Karaganov (International Advisory Board member)

George Kennan

Robert Lovett

John J. McCloy

Charles Peter McColough

Robert McNamara, U.S. Secretary of Defense (1961–1968)

Paul Nitze

Nelson Rockefeller, Vice President of the United States (1974–1977)

John D. Rockefeller, III

Felix Rohatyn

Eugene Rostow

Walt Rostow

Dean Rusk

Arthur Schlesinger

Strobe Talbott

Albert Wohlstetter

Roberta Wohlstetter

Paul Warburg

Caspar Weinberger, U.S. Secretary of Defense (1981–1987)

Edited May 14, 2011 by Robert Morrow

[Dean Hagerman]

Who cares what the CFR says or does not say?

What is the point of this thread?

I dont see one

[Jim Root]

Robert

This from an official CFR publication:

Whitney H. Shepardson (1890-1966)

Whitney Shepardson was an international business executive, editor, and author whose strong interest in international affairs began when he attended the Versailles peace conference in 1919. He returned to New York and helped found the Council on Foreign Relations in 1921. From 1934 to 1940, he was the principal editor of The United States in World Affairs, the Council’s annual review of world events. During World War II, Mr. Shepardson headed the Secret Intelligence unit of the Office of Strategic Services (which became the CIA). From 1953 to 1956, he served as president of the Free Europe Committee, operator of Radio Free Europe.

Please add to yor list of distingushed persons

Jim Root

[Ian Kingsbury]

Who cares what the CFR says or does not say?

What is the point of this thread?

I dont see one

Dean

Its all background and associations ( who can I call on for a favour knowing or unknowing) Remember you start outside a maze to get to the heart.

Ian

[Guest Robert Morrow]

Who cares what the CFR says or does not say?

What is the point of this thread?

I dont see one

The slaughter of JFK was a murder that was carried out by domestic American political elites- i.e. Lyndon Johnson, his Texas oil friends and the Eastern Establishment CIA folks. The troika of three on the Warren Commission Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, Gerald Ford - the ones MOST responsible for the cover up of the JFK Assassination (if you exclude Lyndon Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover.) And those 3 were all extremely prominent members of the Council on Foreign Relations.

The cover up of the JFK assassination by the government and the CIA controlled elite MSM media is one of the most fascinating aspects of the JFK assassination.

Members of the Council on Foreign Relations are often people who are in government at very high levels and/or are members of the media, opinion makers, at very high levels. 2 perfect examples of this would be Bill Moyers and David Gergen - 2 elite political players who also occupy prominent positions of the media. The elite members of the CFR have the ones TELLING THE MOST LIES, MISFORMATION, DISINFORMATION and PROPAGANDA about the JFK Assassination.

In fact they have told so many lies and been so active in the suppression of the truth about the JFK assassination it is a confirming factor on who the murderers of JFK were: US domestic political elites!

You would think in the entire organization of the CFR that there would be at least ONE person who would publicly state it was Lyndon Johnson, the CIA or Texas oil who murdered John Kennedy. After all 80% of the US population believes in a conspiracy in the JFK assassination - perhaps 30% believe the CIA did it, perhaps 18% believe Lyndon Johnson did it. the rest mafia or Fidel Castro.

The Rockefeller controlled CFR really sticks out like a sore thumb on this issue.

Edited September 16, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[David Andrews]

Who cares what the CFR says or does not say?

What is the point of this thread?

I dont see one

I, for one, care. When we look for persons who would have greenlighted JFK's assassination, we ought to be looking at his opposition at the Fed, in big oil, and among those who wanted a Southeast Asia war. These oppositions coalesce among the creators of the CFR.

When we look at the history of undermining investigation into the assassination and its perpetrators, we ought to be consider the Rockefeller Commission, again a place where interests coalesce.

Edited September 16, 2010 by David Andrews

[Dean Hagerman]

Nope

[Jack White]

The Rockefeller controlled CFR really sticks out like a sore thumb on this issue.

Exactly...CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grovers, Skull and Bones.

Jack

PS...some suspect Masonic and Jesuit connections too.

Edited September 16, 2010 by Jack White

[Guest Tom Scully]

Who cares what the CFR says or does not say?

What is the point of this thread?

I dont see one

Hey Dean? I don't own a single book on the subject of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Maybe this is why...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/books/11zinsser.html

By DENNIS HEVESI

Published: June 11, 2008

Correction Appended

John S. Zinsser Jr., who as editor of Reader’s Digest Condensed Books in the 1960s, ’70s and ’80s made nearly 800 carefully crunched versions of popular books available to millions of readers, died on May 27 at his home in West Cornwall, Conn. He was 84.

...Jonathan Sharman Zinsser Jr. was born in Manhattan on June 20, 1923, a son of John and Isabella Wadsworth Zinsser. His father was a vice chairman of the Merck pharmaceutical company....

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~higginbotham/va/poplargrove/poplargrovecem.htm

Poplar Grove Cemetery

Amherst Co., VA

Located on State Rt. 661, at Poplar Grove Estate

The following stones are the prior owners of the property

Thomas W. ZINSSER 10/13/1927—02/21/1995

John S. ZINSSER 08/30/1894—04/20/1971 h/o Isabella W. ZINSSER

Isabella W. ZINSSER 02/24/1894—11/18/1974 w/o John S. ZINSSER

Wadsworth ZINSSER 04/27/1921—03/17/1936 s/o John S. & Isabella W. ZINSSER

Frederick G. ZINSSER 03/21/1868—01/20/1956 h/o Emma S. ZINSSER

Emma S. ZINSSER 12/15/1868—07/07/1966 w/o Frederick G. ZINSSER

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws%3A1%2Car%3A1&q=trubee+John+S+Zinsser+best+man&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

TRAVELS BY AIRPLANE FOR ZINSSER WEDDING; F. Trabee Davison...

- New York Times - Apr 25, 1930

Mrs. Lewis W. Douglas, sister of the bride, and Mrs. Jolt S. Zinsser, her sister -in-IaW, wih be bridesmaids. Harry Brunie of New York will be best man. ..

Jim Root, do you have anything on this guy? "Harold Harris Healy, Jr. CFR/S&B/43" He's got the same names as ushers in his wedding as Nancy Bush and Sandy Ellis had in their wedding! Mr. Healy was the son-in-law of George Plimpton's father's Francis's law partner, Eli Whitney Debevoise, who was counsel to the HICOG and asst. HICOG to HICOG McCloy.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws%3A1%2Car%3A1&q=%22*lindsay%2C+James+C.+Nelson+Jr.%2C+John+K.+Tabor+and+William%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Elizabeth Anne Debevoise Is Married Here To Harold H. Healy Jr., a Former Captain

‎ - New York Times - May 25, 1952

wrists, and a full skirt terminating in a train. The bride s veil was of', tulle, and she carried a bouquet of lilies of the valley.

Mrs. Ronald A, Dick of Toronto, t was matron of honor. The other l attendants were Mrs. Wilmer Hi Kingsford of Summit. NJ. and] Mrs. Carl Brandauer, Mrs. Robert i L. Clarkson Jr. and Miss Nancy Lewis of New York. Robert L. Healy of Provo, Utah, was best man for his brother.

The ushers were Thomas M. Debevoise 2d, brother of the bride; John H.' Daniels of St. Paul.. Minn., Donald W. Hoagland of Denver, Richard/ L. Neale of Chappaqua, N. Y-,/ TD Vag of Madison, Conn.,I David A. Lindsay of Huntington, L. L, and George A. Birrell, Allen T. Klots Jr., John V, Lindsay, James C. Nelson Jr., John K. Tabor and William K. Zinsser of New York. ...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Harold+H.+Healy+Jr.&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Obituaries: HAROLD H. HEALY, JR. - Opera News | HighBeam Research ...

Obituaries: HAROLD H. HEALY, JR. ... find Opera News articles. div id="be-doc-text"Denver, CO, August 27, 1921 New York, NY, March 4, 2007 Elected to the ...

www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-1267818571.html - Cached

Harold H. Healy, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Harold H. Healy, Jr (27 August 27 1921, Denver —4 March 2007, New York City) was an American lawyer who had a distinguished career in international law. ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_H._Healy,_Jr. - Cached

Paid Notice: Deaths HEALY, HAROLD H., JR. - New York Times

Mar 8, 2007 ... HEALY--Harold H., Jr. The Board and Staff of the Metropolitan Opera Guild mourn the death of our board member, Harold Healy. ...

Edited September 17, 2010 by Tom Scully

[Guest Robert Morrow]

It is absolutely amazing what I am finding out as I study this. Get a roster list of the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, or Bilderberg attendee. Here is a good one: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall2.htm

Then type their name into google (example: "Stephen Walt JFK Assassination). Then see what pops up. Members of CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg [all three have been HEAVILY Rockefeller influenced, especially 50,30,20 years ago.] These members are almost TOTALITARIAN in their pushing the Big Lie on the JFK Assassination. The Big Lie being that the murder of JFK was not an elite domestic political slaughter with an elite domestic political cover up.

Here is the example of Stephen Walt - who by the way was a PROFESSOR OF MINE of foreign policy at Princeton in the 1980's. Professor Stephen Walt makes the ridiculous and absurd comparision of the JFK assassination to claims that the government faked the moon landings! http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/category/wordpress_category/book_club

Stephen Walt:

"As we know from a number of important books -- including Richard Hofstader's The Paranoid Style in American Politics, David Aaronovitch's recent Voodoo Histories, and Kathryn Olmsted's Real Enemies: Conspiracy Theories and American Democracy -- conspiracy theories have a long and unhappy history in the United States (and elsewhere). Prominent examples include assorted plots involving Freemasons, preposterous claims about secret Jewish influence (such as the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a notorious Czarist-era forgery), or the claims that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance, that John F. Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA, or that the U.S. government faked the 1969 moon landing. More recent versions are the 9/11 "truther" movement, which portrays the 9/11 attacks as a secret plot by the U.S. government, and virtually any of the claims put forward by Lyndon LaRouche. Glenn Beck's TV show is an equally fertile source of absurd but scary notions about current U.S. politics."

Edited September 18, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[Len Colby]

Bill Moyers, LBJ's aide who ordered the bubbletop taken off - member of CFR. Bill Moyers ALSO was instrumental in having the Men Who Killed Kennedy (the Guilty Men) pulled off the History Channel because it got to close to the truth on the JFK assassination as it fingered Lyndon Johnson.

Are you in the habit of making stuff up?

Peace Corps deputy director Bill Moyers was in Austin at the personal request of the president on the morning of November 22 to smooth over the rivalries of Texas politics, which he knew well. When the Secret Service called Moyers to report the shooting, Moyers flew to Dallas, where he slipped a note to an agent guarding Johnson's plane. "Mr. President," it read simply, "I'm here if you need me." Johnson asked the younger man to board Air Force One. Moyers remained in the president's inner circle until 1967. He did not, however, fail to return to the Peace Corps for for want of trying. "Time and again I would petition him to let me go back to the Peace Corps," Moyers later said. The president, however, eventually told him flat out, "Don't ever mention that to me again."8 In the weeks following John Kennedy's ...

Elizabeth Cobbs Hoffman, All You Need Is Love: The Peace Corps and the Spirit of the 1960s, page 185 Harvard University Press, 2000

http://books.google.com/books?id=WCvZ68XsN0gC

Elizabeth Cobbs Hoffman (Stanford University, 1988) is the Dwight E. Stanford Chair in U.S. Foreign Relations [san Diego State University ]. She is the author of All You Need is Love: The Peace Corps and the Spirit of the 1960s (Harvard, 1998). Her first book, The Rich Neighbor Policy: Rockefeller and Kaiser in Brazil (Yale, 1992), won the Allan Nevins Prize of the Society of American Historians, and the Stuart Bernath Award of the Society for Historians of American Foreign Relations. Her research has taken her to archives across the United States, as well as to four continents. She has received fellowships from the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and the Organization of American States, and research support from the John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Rockefeller Family Archives. Professor Cobbs Hoffman currently writes articles for both scholarly and popular journals, and has served on the editorial boards of Diplomatic History and the Encyclopedia of American Foreign Relations. Her research interests include modern American foreign relations, the Sixties, Third World economic development, and modern Latin America. Professor Cobbs Hoffman is currently working on projects related to world history and to reform movements in the United States in the 1960s. She also serves as a member of the nine-person Historical Advisory Committee to the Department of State in Washington, D.C.

[Guest Robert Morrow]

Bill Moyers, LBJ's aide who ordered the bubbletop taken off - member of CFR. Bill Moyers ALSO was instrumental in having the Men Who Killed Kennedy (the Guilty Men) pulled off the History Channel because it got to close to the truth on the JFK assassination as it fingered Lyndon Johnson.

Are you in the habit of making stuff up?

Peace Corps deputy director Bill Moyers was in Austin at the personal request of the president on the morning of November 22 to smooth over the rivalries of Texas politics, which he knew well. When the Secret Service called Moyers to report the shooting, Moyers flew to Dallas, where he slipped a note to an agent guarding Johnson's plane. "Mr. President," it read simply, "I'm here if you need me." Johnson asked the younger man to board Air Force One. Moyers remained in the president's inner circle until 1967. He did not, however, fail to return to the Peace Corps for for want of trying. "Time and again I would petition him to let me go back to the Peace Corps," Moyers later said. The president, however, eventually told him flat out, "Don't ever mention that to me again."8 In the weeks following John Kennedy's ...

Elizabeth Cobbs Hoffman, All You Need Is Love: The Peace Corps and the Spirit of the 1960s, page 185 Harvard University Press, 2000

http://books.google.com/books?id=WCvZ68XsN0gC

Elizabeth Cobbs Hoffman (Stanford University, 1988) is the Dwight E. Stanford Chair in U.S. Foreign Relations [san Diego State University ]. She is the author of All You Need is Love: The Peace Corps and the Spirit of the 1960s (Harvard, 1998). Her first book, The Rich Neighbor Policy: Rockefeller and Kaiser in Brazil (Yale, 1992), won the Allan Nevins Prize of the Society of American Historians, and the Stuart Bernath Award of the Society for Historians of American Foreign Relations. Her research has taken her to archives across the United States, as well as to four continents. She has received fellowships from the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and the Organization of American States, and research support from the John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Rockefeller Family Archives. Professor Cobbs Hoffman currently writes articles for both scholarly and popular journals, and has served on the editorial boards of Diplomatic History and the Encyclopedia of American Foreign Relations. Her research interests include modern American foreign relations, the Sixties, Third World economic development, and modern Latin America. Professor Cobbs Hoffman is currently working on projects related to world history and to reform movements in the United States in the 1960s. She also serves as a member of the nine-person Historical Advisory Committee to the Department of State in Washington, D.C.

Len Colby, have you ever heard of a telephone? Bill Moyers was in Austin, TX, and on the phone telling the Secret Service to take off the "Goddamn" bubbletop to JFK's limo:

"Moyers had been on the phone with Ms. Harris, informing her that the President did not want the bubbletop. He told Harris to 'get that God-damned bubble off unless it's pouring rain.' Shortly thereafter the weather began to clear. Ms. Harris approached Sorrels about the bubble-top and together they had the agents remove the glass top."

[Phillip Nelson, LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, p.428] Nelson's source for this quote is HSCA, Volume 11, p. 526.

Pretty amazing that a key LBJ aide, no doubt channeling the exact words and intentions of his boss, would be telling the Secret Service to "get the Goddamned bubble off unless it's pouring rain." JFK's bubble top was NOT like the Pope mobile; instead it was a cover like any other limo with a plastic mold covered in opaque, non-see-through vinyl with a tiny window in the back.

It seems to me that Lyndon Johnson was setting up the JFK assassination by using his aide Bill Moyers to ensure that the "goddamn" bubble top would not be in the way of any LBJ/CIA snipers.

Bill Moyers went on to become one of LBJ's closest aides in the White House and he has been covering up for the JFK assassination ever since. Not that he was involved, he was probably a useful idiot and another one of Lyndon Johnson's willing psychological slaves.

Edited September 19, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[Guest Robert Morrow]

I keep finding Council on Foreign Relations members - columnists, *reporters*, government officials, commentators, who keep spewing lies about the JFK assassination. Honestly, for many of them, I think it is "lies" of ignorance. They don't want to know the Ugly Truth about the JFK assassination. Having said that, the older CFR members like George Herbert Walker Bush KNOW the ugly reality about the JFK assassination (I think GHW Bush was INVOLVED in it!) A CFR columnist who is one of the most influential public opinion makers in the USA is Charles Krauthammer. Here is what he said as recently as 2006:

CFR Charles Krauthammer, very influential columnist: "In my naivete, I used to think that Hollywood had achieved its nadir with Oliver Stone's "JFK," a film that taught a generation of Americans that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA and the FBI in collaboration with Lyndon Johnson. But at least it was for domestic consumption, an internal affair of only marginal interest to other countries."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/02/AR2006030201209.html

Edited September 26, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[Guest Robert Morrow]

I keep finding Council on Foreign Relations members - columnists, *reporters*, government officials, commentators, who keep spewing lies about the JFK assassination. Honestly, for many of them, I think it is "lies" of ignorance. They don't want to know the Ugly Truth about the JFK assassination. Having said that, the older CFR members like George Herbert Walker Bush KNOW the ugly reality about the JFK assassination (I think GHW Bush was INVOLVED in it!) A CFR columnist who is one of the most influential public opinion makers in the USA is Charles Krauthammer. Here is what he said as recently as 2006:

CFR Charles Krauthammer, very influential columnist: "In my naivete, I used to think that Hollywood had achieved its nadir with Oliver Stone's "JFK," a film that taught a generation of Americans that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA and the FBI in collaboration with Lyndon Johnson. But at least it was for domestic consumption, an internal affair of only marginal interest to other countries."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/02/AR2006030201209.html

When Oliver Stone's movie JFK came out, CFR opinion makers went into overdrive trying to destroy that movie, which was basically true. The CFR folks were all pushing the Big Lie of the JFK assassination:

Stephen Rosenfeld CFR of the Washington Post, for example, states seven paragraphs into his commentary: "That the assassination probably encompassed more than a lone gunman now seems beyond cavil."

http://emporium.turnpike.net/P/ProRev/stone.htm

Gary Aguilar: http://www.history-matters.com/essays/vietnam/JFK,%20Vietnam,%20and%20Oliver%20Stone/JFK,%20Vietnam,%20and%20Oliver%20Stone.htm

Edited September 29, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[Guest Robert Morrow]

The question I have is how can you be an "elite" historian if you have not figured out that John Kennedy was slaughtered by an elite domestic political conspiracy? Very probably involving Lyndon Johnson and a bunch of CIA Republicans making a dirty deal?

Here is ANOTHER CFR member pushing the Big Lie about the death of John Kennedy. I think for most of the younger CFR members it is a case of WILLFUL IGNORANCE, too scared to look at the flame of truth. Or maybe they think they will be turned into a salt pillar if they look back over their shoulders...

Here is CFR member Michael Beschloss falsely blaming it all on Lee Harvey Oswald, who Beschloss describes as a "surly little egoist."

"Many Americans are now certain that had JFK lived to win a second term, he would have spared the nation its tragic adventure in Southeast Asia. The assassination in Dallas obliterated the rationality and hope that were the outward hallmarks of the Kennedy presidency and of most of American public life. That sense of confident well-being was replaced with what the novelist Don DeLillo described as "a world of randomness." Many presume that without the disillusionment that followed Dallas and Vietnam, we would be living in a happier and more innocent country. And because it is difficult to tolerate the notion that this historical transformation could turn on something so trivial as the caprice of a surly little egotist, a grander design has been sought in the Mafia, in foreign intelligence services, in the Cubans, the Russians, the CIA." (Newsweek, November 22, 1993, p. 62.)

Edited October 3, 2010 by Robert Morrow