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Is there any chance Tippit was wounded at Dealey at 12.30 and moved to the Oak Cliff position where he was discovered? Some threads were pointing to that possibility, where Tippit was a murdered conspirator, the casualty that caaused the blood stain, possibly, a victim of friendly fire or an abort attempt during the assassination. Is this in the range of possibility?

James Please post the Tracy Barnes photo, that one is the match, I think.... Robertson is a clear match. Lucien Conein and James McCord are strong positive correlations too. Here's a view from TSBD or DALTEX looking toward the underpass.....

Great material. This puts into words the "fishiness" most of us felt about the provocative actions of Oswald, and the "falseness" of his communism.

John mentions a pivotal time, the moment when R.Nixon sacked R.Helmes and T.Karamessines resigned in support of Helms. The moment DEEP THROAT appears, and McCord writes a letter to the judge!!! In February of 1973 the Watergate campaign burglary was not the big story it became later, and Nixon's impeachment and resignation not already set in motion. Also, this view of Karamessines is consistent with a joint agency effort spearheaded by ONI and MI directorates and the CIA and FBI left with the unenviable job of covering up any national security leads stemming from Dallas. As I mentioned, KARAMESSINES, FITZGERALD and MARSHALL CARTER seem to have been structurally in positions to know a great deal about the 11/22/63 murders, and forced by law and tradition to remain silent and vigilant over the containment of the actual situation. Jim Root is correct to link Karamessines to Walker and the Greek post war paramilitary research done by the MI6 Supreme Allied COmmander Burma Theater Louis Mountbatten and Prince Philip of Britain. Mr. Pappas's extortionate relationship to Mr. Nixon may be based on a Greek power arrangement visavis these principles, Mountbatten, Philip, Karamessines, Edwin Walker, Aristotle Onassis and Frank Wisner at OPC....certainly a fertile field for intrigue on behalf of fascist anti-communists and royalist commercial interests, with the Turkish missile and Balkan black market and covert efforts providing more opportunities for violence, misdirection and manipulation of overthrown regimes.......is it not?

The Rajneesh or "OSHO" the cult leader died of brain cancer after the political ascendency of his free love Hindu naming cult in Oregon. It is suspected that a heavy metal, a radioactive isotope, was introduced into his food or water. Similar scenarios are commonly spun around the death of Jack Ruby. Possibly Mr. Angus McKenzie fell prey to the environmental toxins released by the corporations who host CIA cover agents worldwide, benzene, perhaps, or carbon tetrachloride....however he passed on, it was a life well spent.

Here is Doctor Mantik's paper on the forgery of the autopsy photos. This is one of the strongest seminars presented last November here on the Forum: http://assassinationresearch.com/v2n2/pittsburgh.pdf Properly orienting the V-shaped skull fracture is probably the key to the whole thing.

James - So this women is the women in the polka dot dress ? Terror in the Night: The Klan's Campaign Against the Jews, by Jack Nelson. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 1996. 287 pp. $16.00. THIS FAST-PACED NARRATIVE BY A PULITZER-PRIZE WINNING journalist focuses on the violence aimed at Mississippi's Jews during the late 1960s, on the role of a youthful zealot, Thomas Albert Tarrants, III, on the awakening of "assimilationist" Jews, and on how a few courageous Mississippi lawmen and FBI agents stopped the terrorism. Tarrants, a bright high-school drop-out who loved weapons and explosives and Sam Bowers, the imperial wizard of Mississippi's super-secret Klan, the White Knights, believed that an international cabal of Communists and Jews had instigated the civil rights movement and brought turmoil to the state. Hence, Tarrants and Bowers conspired to conduct a campaign of violence against Mississippi's Jews. On the evening of September 18, 1967, Tarrants struck. With an accomplice, Kathy Ainsworth-a pretty, married school-teacher by day and an anti-Semitic terrorist by night-Tarrants used dynamite to bomb Temple Beth Israel in Jackson, the synagogue of Rabbi Perry Nussbaum, one of Mississippi's most outspoken Jews on civil rights issues. The bombing prompted new counterintelligence measures by the local FBI. In October and November, Tarrants bombed the homes of black and white civil rights activists in and around Jackson and the residence of Rabbi Nussbaum. Miraculously, no one was killed. Washington rushed additional FBI agents to Mississippi; Roy Moore, head of the Jackson Bureau, stepped up his recruitment of Klan informants; and prominent Jewish segregationists experienced a transformation in their thinking. In 1968 the Klan, feeling pressure from the FBI, shifted its terrorism campaign to Meridian. The White Knights burned black churches, and Tarrants, then unknown to the FBI, fired into the home of a black female activist in Meridian, The local chief of police, Roy Gunn, a one-time segregationist now working with the FBI, vowed war on the Klan to end the violence. Jackson Jews warned Meridian's Jews to be on the alert, but most remained complacent until May 28 when dynamite planted by Tarrants and Danny Joe Hawkins destroyed the local synagogue. After the bombing, the FBI and Chief Gunn used intimidation and harassment to enlist as informants Meridian's two most feared Klan members, brothers Raymond and Alton Wayne Roberts. The latter, like Sam Bowers, was free on bond after conviction in connection with the murder in 1964 of civil rights workers Schwerner, Chaney, and Goodman. Harassed for months, the two brothers decided finally to cooperate for money, which was raised by Mississippi's Jews who now recognized that generations of assimilation had not made them immune from Klan violence. The Roberts brothers soon confirmed the suspicions of the FBI that Tarrants and Hawkins had bombed the Meridian synagogue. By mid-June Raymond and Alton Wayne had covertly arranged an ambush for Tarrants and Hawkins by assisting them in their plan to bomb the home of Meyer Davidson, one of Meridian's prominent Jews. The FBI, state police, and local lawmen agreed that the nightriders would not leave the scene alive. On the night of June 28, Kathy Ainsworth rather than Hawkins accompanied Tarrants to Meridian, where they pulled to the curb in front of the Davidson house. As Tarrants went to place the bomb, the hidden lawmen called on him to halt. When he did not, the police opened fire. Tarrants was severely wounded and Kathy was shot dead while attempting to retrieve a weapon under the seat. Tarrants survived his wounds to stand trial. Unrepentant, he was sentenced to serve a thirty-year term in Mississippi 's tough Parchman prison. After an escape and recapture, he underwent a dramatic religious conversion and after eight years in prison was paroled to enter the University of Mississippi. In 1992 he was training missionaries in North Carolina and married to the daughter of prominent North Carolinians. For years Jack Nelson agonized over the ambush of Tarrants and Ainsworth, which the FBI claimed was good law enforcement, not entrapment. Nelson thought otherwise. He wrote an article about the trap set for the terrorists for the Los Angeles Times, after which J. Edgar Hoover smeared him as an alcoholic. This book apparently served as a catharsis of sorts for the author. Nelson tells an extraordinary story based on extraordinary investigative journalism. Heretofore, books about the Klan in Mississippi and elsewhere have focused usually on the violence carried out against African Americans, but this book makes the reader aware that as recently as the 1960s, the Klan targeted Jews. Today the conspiracy-minded, mean-spirited, and paranoid have refocused their hostility. The government of the United States and sometimes the universities and big business have become targets of terrorism by loners and occasionally militia members. In a free society there always will be aberrant, demented individuals who will find scapegoats for their hostilities or delusions and carry out acts of violence. But to maintain its freedom, a society needs to remain vigilant and monitor such persons and organizations as closely as the FBI and Mississippi lawmen watched the White Knights in the 1960s. Copyright Mississippi Quarterly Winter 1997/1998Provided by ProQuest

Namebase for Mario Kohly: There is not much on the web for either of these guys and McAdams explains them away. Prime suspect in the hit on Mary Meyer and other clean up jobs. KOHLY MARIO GARCIA Cuba 1961 Blumenthal,S. Yazijian,H. Government by Gunplay. 1976 (129) Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) Groden,R. Livingstone,H. High Treason. 1990 (344) Hinckle,W. Turner,W. The Fish is Red. 1981 (176-80) Melanson,P. Spy Saga. 1990 (35) Morrow,R. First Hand Knowledge. 1992 Piper,M.C. Final Judgment. 1993 (166) Russell,D. The Man Who Knew Too Much. 1992 (190, 300, 407-8, 690) Scott,P.D... The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond. 1976 (373) Summers,A. Conspiracy. 1981 (257, 452) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186-7, 261-2) Turner,W. Power on the Right. 1971 (155-6) Weissman,S. Big Brother and the Holding Company. 1974 (125) pages cited this search: 26 Order hard copy of these pages Show a social network diagram for this name The names below are mentioned on the listed pages with the name KOHLY MARIO GARCIA Click on a name for a new proximity search: ABPLANALP ROBERT H Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (261) ALEMAN JOSE MANUEL Scott,P.D... The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond. 1976 (373) ALLIEGRO ANSELMO S Scott,P.D... The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond. 1976 (373) AMERITAS REALITY Scott,P.D... The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond. 1976 (373) BANISTER W GUY Melanson,P. Spy Saga. 1990 (35) BARKER BERNARD L Blumenthal,S. Yazijian,H. Government by Gunplay. 1976 (129) Scott,P.D... The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond. 1976 (373) Weissman,S. Big Brother and the Holding Company. 1974 (125) BARNES TRACY Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) Russell,D. The Man Who Knew Too Much. 1992 (190 407-408) Summers,A. 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John Here's the Marshall Diggs page from namebase.org. Pretty interesting circumstantial relationships here: DIGGS MARSHALL Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) Morrow,R. First Hand Knowledge. 1992 Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186, 194) pages cited this search: 5 Order hard copy of these pages Show a social network diagram for this name The names below are mentioned on the listed pages with the name DIGGS MARSHALL Click on a name for a new proximity search: BARNES TRACY Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) BISSELL RICHARD MERVIN JR Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) BREWSTER OWEN (R-ME) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186 194) CUSHMAN ROBERT E JR (GEN) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) DAMORE LEO J Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) DE MOHRENSCHILDT GEORGE S Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) FLEMING IAN Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) HANTMAN ALFRED L Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) HUNT E HOWARD Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (194) KEARDON KRESSY Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) KOHLY MARIO GARCIA Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) KOHLY MARIO JR Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) LANSKY MEYER Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (194) MORROW ROBERT D Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) ORTA CORDOVA JUAN Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (194) OSWALD LEE HARVEY Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) PAWLEY WILLIAM D Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186 194) PULLEY C.H. (JIM) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (194) REBOZO CHARLES G (BEBE) Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (186) ROTHMAN NORMAN Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (194) ROUNDTREE DOVEY Burleigh,N. A Very Private Woman. 1999 (292) RUBY JACK Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) VARONA MANUEL ANTONIO DE Summers,A. The Arrogance of Power. 2000 (194) WILLIAMS JOHN M Parenti,M. Dirty Truths. 1996 (169) DIGGS MARSHALL pages searched: 4 These names share the indicated number of pages with the above name. Click on a name below for a standard name search: BARNES TRACY 2 BREWSTER OWEN (R-ME) 2 KOHLY MARIO GARCIA 2 MORROW ROBERT D 2 PAWLEY WILLIAM D 2 BISSELL RICHARD MERVIN JR 1 CUSHMAN ROBERT E JR (GEN) 1 DAMORE LEO J 1 DE MOHRENSCHILDT GEORGE S 1 FLEMING IAN 1 HANTMAN ALFRED L 1 HUNT E HOWARD 1 KEARDON KRESSY 1 KOHLY MARIO JR 1 LANSKY MEYER 1 ORTA CORDOVA JUAN 1 OSWALD LEE HARVEY 1 PULLEY C.H. (JIM) 1 REBOZO CHARLES G (BEBE) 1 ROTHMAN NORMAN 1 ROUNDTREE DOVEY 1 RUBY JACK 1 VARONA MANUEL ANTONIO DE 1 WILLIAMS JOHN M 1

Wasn't there a suspicious RFK bodyguard in a position to fire close in from the rear?

It doesn't take a genius to see that if five people were wounded and bullets went into the woodwork and the waiters got a hold of the pistol during the barrage, then a point blank shot to the back of the head is not really possible from Sirhan Sirhan. I suspect this has quite a bit to do with DARYL GATES and the LAPD intelligence squad, tactically, and CIA/MI joint agencies, strategically. Whatever problems Jack had with the security clearance agencies, Bobbie had worse problems. We have to see that the reactionaries like Curtis LeMay and Richard Helms saw both of the Kennedys as pacifist, communist, pro-black and drug-using scum. They took it upon themselves to "protect" the US from the executives they were electing...... Who killed the Psychiatrist? Why?

Nancy is on to this one. Woodward was a Naval Intelligence officer who had a working relationship with High ranking navy and intelligence officers, and he probably briefed (discussed classsified situations with) Al Haig. John has spelled out the structure of CIA's manipulation of US media and apparently IT IS THE ONE THING THEY DON"T WANT YOU TO SEE ! Thank God for the Internet, you can't get this in any other media ! (or should I say thank the administrators )

Review of Lawrence Goodwyn's THE POPULIST MOMENT and Michael Kazin's THE POPULIST PERSUASION Populism is a political concept directly applicable to the period of 1880-1900 and is the subject also of much debate in the discussion of the twentieth-century American political tradition. With its core on the recently settled plains, populism spread to the south, the Midwest and with unease, into the laboring populations of the US cities. As the rural agrarian political counterpoint offered to early concentrated industry, populism is still a compelling theme for the historian. With its provocative and prophetic insistence on “inflationary” non-metallic U.S. currency, and its precedent-setting co-operative system of sub treasuries, it linked Jeffersonian agrarian focus with a 20th century approach to commodity support and labor regulation. Populism quickly grew and spread from its Texas Plains core, peripherally encompassing a greater stretch of the terrain and consciousness of the polity until the late 1890’s. Its uncompromising critique of the status quo is vituperative and inflammatory, and its intent was revolutionary. Its identity, where one is made manifest, is a non-elite. The Victorian traditions of frontier free land claims, penny press and vocal persistence of the Jefferson Jackson myth allowed for America’s most radical and sustained political movement, one centered on market reforms, credit reforms and financial reforms. In many ways the program foreshadowed the New Deal, in positing the federal enforcement powers behind redistributive and broadly wrung economic wealth enhancing policies. With the credit system and distribution lines blocked by regional merchants and national railroad interests, the policy of the People’s Party was motivated by liberal self-interest and community development. Sub treasuries were envisioned to carry grain and cash balances throughout a year’s cycle and end the withering failure of foreclosure due to mercenary usury and marketing costs. Where the regulation sought Populism saw railroad ownership by the government, the British system, the new Deal did in fact place limits on rail commodity rates and regularize credit. Currency was reformed in the 1930s and the Gold Standard was finally severed in the USA by President Nixon in 1971. The historiological debate becomes whether to champion and promote the spirit of populism in your writings, or to attempt unbiased analysis. Proponents of populism, such as Lawrence Goodwyn (The Populist Moment: Oxford,1978) serve one purpose. Following the thread of language and rhetoric throughout all its varied and articulated machinations, Michael Kazin (The Populist Persuasion: Cornell, 1995) serves another purpose. What are the approaches of each? Mr. Goodwyn and Mr. Kazin complement each other through stereoptic synthesis. We can see where the Populists were originally oriented, their habitus and mentalitie as Pierre Bourdieu would say, in Goodwyn. Goodwyn explains their political program in detail, furnishing short biographies and correspondence, from the point of view of an empathetic, sympathetic and motivated populist adherent. We then see the pathways of linguistic rhetoric these core threads and beliefs (centered in their own time) took on in the reaction and progress cycle of twentieth century politics. Kazin takes us into the verbal joisting, patriotism, isolation, union disintegration and immigration issues, and how Populist Peoples Party tradition was invoked on the continuing industrialization system by actors in the twentieth century. With both books, one can trace a progress from 19th century American farm class opposition into the “Redneck goes National” section on George Wallace, in 1968. Kazin has a journalistic view of Ross Perot and Bill Clinton, as well, but these are epilog; Kazin ends his central political discussion of Populism with George Wallace and white racism. Kazin also gives a great overview of the conservative and populist struggles for the mind of the American Catholic. The relationship of the bourgeois Cold War American Catholic and the other institutions of the time make for interesting reading. Kaazin is very strong on the character of McCarthy, his subconsciously compelling traits driving him to popularity in the wake of the arming of the Soviet Union and the fall of China to international Communism. What effects did this have on the political rhetoric of the National Review, the American Legion and the international corporate elites? Mr. Goodwyn is not so contemporary, but neither is he so burdened. His program for subtreasuries, cash greenbacks, railroad state ownership, county based farm credit and curbs on merchants and railroads -- these really are Goodwyn’s programs, as his history sells the strong points of the long-gone situation. While this builds a sense of mastery and understanding in the reader, the gulf between the situation in the 1880’s Midwest and our own times, our store of knowledge, our experiences of progressive and reactive thought, our own readings and memories, remain great – is this ultimately a powerful form of history? Goodwyn is the true believer, in the meaning given it by Eric Hoffer, he is like Vance Packard or any number of popular social scientists, who wear their allegiance, their alliance, their orientation to the political universe on their sleeve. Mr. Kazin is also a partisan veteran, but he elides the stigma of bias by claiming a broader disinterest. Whether this shows a drift toward the right (or center) of the political galaxy is never stated directly, but the sensitivity he shows to powerful conservative forces in the USA, and his understanding of the populism rhetoric, suggest that he has mellowed. His orientation is no longer that of a critical radical, seeking root and branch change, rather; he has learned to live with certain overwhelming forces in American society, and he explains their evolution. These are the traditional bastions of order, and their embrace of populism values are hopelessly skewed by the self interest and needs of the organizations. Kazin and Goodwin address these institutions indirectly. They are the school system, the banking and treasury credit currency system, the military and its veterans of military service, the Church, broadly construed, and the transportation system of interstate marketing. Along with family and corporate interests, any political individual or entity has to take into consideration these specific entities in their evaluation of the political terrain. Any orientation that ignores or derogates these to an imagined inconsequentiality does so at its own risk. The power of these bodies manifest themselves in certain social language representations, including the use of political rhetoric and emotive persuasion. Its overall impact on a given individual can be effectively called an indoctrinated state of mind. Socialization is a milder term for the same. Courses and pathways of independent and unconstrained discourse are diminished in a systematic and chronic method, via multiple corporate and institutional media exposures, commercial advertisement and the overwhelming presence of the contemporary built environment. Populist threads of thought, rooted in opposition to Cromwell, Walpole and George III, continued though the final Victorian generation, and were radically changed by the unprecedented modernization of the twentieth century. The crisis of modernity and the fully modern century were upon the US political universe. Isolation, racism, class juncture and national interest would bring new valences to themes propounded by the populists of the older generation; those in intimate contact with the Civil War, died away and those with intimate knowledge of WWI and WWII were born. William Jennings Bryan is correctly seen as the last of the pure moment in American populism stricto, and Ross Perot and Jesse Ventura have claims to a populism lato. It is not concealed, Goodwyn’s program of political proponence of Populism. Goodwyn talks about the birth of a vocal opposition, its unifying milestones, how cohesiveness is held and other strictly tactical elements within the historic record. Kazin is really addressing a different period, he begins the body of his work with Samuel Gompers. Kazin, in his more culturally derived text, gives the reader a greater sense of the Victorian moralist, the power of the prohibitionist, the sanitation and temperance force in American tradition. The Anti Saloon League (the ASL) and the Womens Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) certainly allow Kazin to invesatigate the way thematic (or linguistic) themes helped build certain political alliances and cross-loyalties – a lesson seen in the 2004 general election messages. Ultimately our rhetorical interest is either hermeneutically or unconsciously derived. We are either subject to our unconscious and selfish “needs” or we make critical decisions at one remove from our bourgeois indoctrination. We can look at history as a chance to model and delineate the program of reform, or we can trace language through its claims, reactions and synthetic claims. The record of a populist mood, a populist need at the center of the institutional politics of the US worth investigating, because it, like Liberal, Conservative, Democracy and Republicanism – these are the sources and seeds of the most contested areas in the contemporary and historical political arenas.

John, You have uncovered the Truth Squad, no wonder they sink these references during the Search Engine process. You have uncovered evidence of systematic and chronic manipulation of the media by the CIA and joint agencies, an interlocking of CIA and US MEDIA personalities within the extended family and social scene. Antoinette Pinchot (pronounced Pan-shot, I believe) married Ben Bradlee, Mary Meyer married Cord Meyer, Dick Helms brokered the sale of NEWSWEEK with a million dollar check changing hands, Bradlee and Angleton working in Europe together for VOA and USIA projects, all this is horribly enlightening about the suspicions so many have had concerning the corporate newspaper and magazine industry. Mary Meyer's murder on the Towpath as the Warren COmmission Report was released looks like a clean up operation, and the BRADLEE/WOODWARD control of the Watergate burglary issue looks like sustained damage control visavis HUNT, GONZALES, MARTINEZ, STURGIS, BARKER and MCCORD. Thank you for shedding light on the tight linkages between Dallas, Watergate, the US Agencies and the press.

This is very interesting, George de morenschildt was afraid of someone or something called RAS right before his murder/suicide. He placed people in Dealey Plaza, then committed himself from the strain. According to the memo Arcarcha Smith? and [William] Seymour were part of the ambuscade, and had alibis made for them in New Orleans and Phoenix.......this Sprague investigators memo from 1977 is very interesting, Lee. Beckham, Gordon, Arcacha Smith and Seymour are principles in Dealey with Loy, from General Dynamics as the lead position tramp, ie Frenchy. Will some one else please give some context on this, and who is the author? (also, I am with james, the Raoul line-up-man is not a match with the #1 tramp)

Lee, Two things...one...this is material written by a higher level intellect than the generally perceived notion of the lone nut gunman. Two...this is also supportive of the theory of coaching, steering, or indoctrination frm some source onto Oswald. This material reminds me of the Symbionese Liberation Army or Jim Jones, I find it difficult to believe this individual was self motivated and autodidactic when coming up with these political theories, more likely this is material learned in his programming, as part of his role as a false defector and counter-defector... this is a classic "neutralist" false political ideology, like Symbionese Liberation, it means nothing and is self defeating, so is useful as a template for behavioural conditioning..........

More specifically, a crypto-analyst with the signals unit in Japan, JOHN HURT, may have had some early contact with OSWALD, and OSWALD may have seen JOHN HURT as his "core" government agency contact, as we discussed... The material concerning a Sgt. DINKIN in Germany, doing signals intelligence in work in 1963, who predicted the JFK assassination, also sheds light on the structural relationship of NSA to the Kennedy assassination plans, event and cover-up. If Sgt. DINKIN knew of the ambush in advance, after listening to international signals traffic (apparently between Europe and Algeria) then the higher ups should have had equal or better advance knowledge. Same with the Mexico City "Oswald" approach to the KGB/SOVIET EMBASSY. If it happened, then this agency should have known and acted to prevent the assassination. Same is true of all international traffic, the communications records of BRAY and BENDIX, the THRESHER file, should have alerted this agency, and of course the material from OSWALD to John Tower and John Connally, the nature of DEMORENSCHILDTs interest in Marina and Lee, all this was in the signals/military bailiwick// The elevation of CARTER, KARAMESSINES and FITZGERALD is very troubling, as they seem to be found loyal in the 1963-64 period and promoted specifically because of their knowledge of the assassination, they were placed in AD positions in order to cover up the events of 1963 and assist in the unification of joint agency operations in the VIETNAM WAR. Structurally, Marshall Carter was in a position to explain much of the Kennedy assassination communication record, but chose not to, which I find indicting, in a similar manner to Mr. Helms approach to the 1963 record.

Jim, First, the NSA is the crucial pivotal agency in any joint project, because it has military and civilian aspects and a high level of communications and counter intelligence clearance. It "knows" things that are unavailable to the FBI, CIA and WHite House. It uses an international task to operate on US soil. It was probably subject to direct and covert tasking by Admiral Lemnitzer and General Taylor of the Joint Chiefs. It would have had tapes, taps, bugs, snaps and transcripts on the JFK concerning ELLEN ROMESCH, MARY MEYER, backchannel to Havana, backchannel to Moscow, recreational drug use, gambling, infidelity, etc.,... The cryptological and mathmatical signals research actually served as a cover for behavioural and political efforts, sanctions, programs were run with very little oversight by the Senate Intelligence Subcommittee chairman Richard Russell. The nature of these civilian/military research operations are not fully known, but it is quite possible that the Atsugi Japan military base saw a National Security Agency program working in tamdem with MK ULTRA on the recruitment and training of false defectors. Marshall Carter, an aide to General George C. Marshall (Sect. of State) was in command of the NSA during the assassination and like KARAMESSINES and FITZGERALD was elevated to a DDI position at CIA in the mid 1960's. I see an EXECUTIVE ACTION or SANCTION, sponsored by the Joint Chiefs, spearheaded by ONI, with the complicity of the other Military Intelligence agencies, such as the NSA. The CIA was a junior partner, and the FBI almost completely out of the loop. If there was a conspiracy (and of course there was) the NSA, being a wiretapping and code-breaking agency, WOULD HAVE KNOWN IN ADVANCE, and this is one more compelling piece of evidence pointing to a real military coup, or security clearance "wet job"...............

Interesting stuff. Claims Jim Hicks and William Seymour were principles in the assassination. There is a glossary of names at the end "Frenchy" Real name(s) not yet determined. French Canadian adventurer. CIA contract agent. Training for second invasion of Cuba in Florida Keys. Knew Howard, Hall, Seymour, Hemming, and Santana. Fired shots. Also involved in King assassination. unquote

Nixon was in Dallas that morning, and flew to New York at about that time. I believe Pepsi President Don Kendall was with him for the convention, but I would like to hear more about a Howard Hunt/Richard Nixon meeting. It does sound a bit fanciful to place Colson and Ehrlichman there as well, but Colson looks a lot like LUCIEN CONEIN, does he not?

Thanks, Tim. Great stuff by Bartholomew, he winds around but is worth reading - Also I was just asking the members for more on Roger Craig. I have always suspected that the white landau coup seen in the NIX film near the pergola and fence played some role, and there is the green "Ruby" truck, the "Oswald" rambler, the vehicles suspiciously casing the RR tower lot, the AIR CONDITIONING truck and the JOE"S PAWN SHOP truck, the Stopped vehicles in the Plaza, westbound lane, and others..........

The key word here is executive. The 8F group were executives weighing the political advantages of co-operation and using a very powerful corporate/state ad hoc structure to further their own ends. With at least two Secretary's of the Navy sitting in judgement on John Kennedy, they had files of the Naval Intelligence, from John Kennedy's medical and psychological evaluations and surreptitiously gathered sexual liassons available to them. Here we see Texas oil, military intelligence (Navy Executives) and top Texas Political Leaders gathering behind closed doors in the Kennedy administration.... The 25th amendment streamlined the impeachment process to an executive committee "removal" and I believe the depth, width, extent and degree of the cover-up shows a joint agency plan, with many of these 8F executives using quasi official and private assets to coordinate the shootings and the frame up. The Dal Tex/ H.L. Hunt group could quietly combine with the Anderson (Navy) group inside the SUITE EIGHT "F"

I have been familiar with OPERATION INSLAW, INLET, BLUESKY, ECHELON, MK/ULTRA, CHAOS, COINTELPRO, ARTICHOKE, PAPERCLIP, DUSTBIN, ASHCAN, ZR/RIFLE and PHOENIX for quite some time....... OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD is a very hot potato evidently and of course, John Simkin is to be applauded for exposing this ongoing propaganda and manipulation activity..... These unethical, counter-productive US illegal domestic intelligence operations need more scrutiny, both in historical enquiry and in real-time journalism.

This gets to the theme of the MOCKINGBIRD and C.D. Jackson LIFE process: the trusted independent editor of the mainstream newspaper turns out to be an agent to collect and sanitize information for the joint agencies.... If Craig gave the evidence to a Dallas newspaper, there is every chance it ended up in the hands of the Truth Squad, the cold war Thought Police, the FBI, the 113th, etc.. Wade, please give us your take on the Roger Craig story, I have seen bits and pieces on the THRESHER BRAY BENDIX threads recently. What do we know about the files ROger Craig claimed to have? How credible is he?

Nixon was extremely concerned with hiding his relationship with Pappas and any money that was involved. The greek scandal seemed to bubble beneath the surface of Nixon's offshore Bebe Rebozo network. Karamessines, Ed Walker and Joannides would have seen action in a largely ignored area, where old Nazis were embraced by US interests in an anti-communist/royalist front. The Greek connection may be as important as the French Connection, and they may be related. Pappas certainly had some very powerful leverage over Mr. Nixon, and the Greek lobby seemed to get favors all out of proportion to their actual strength.......does this angle have room for the big shipping magnate? Was Aristotle Onassis any part of the Greek pressure group that inhibited Richard Nixon? ...... I have never much gone for the Onassis angle, is it enhanced by this overview??