John Dolva

Ian, thank you for making time to answer questions. I am interested in Harry D. Holmes. I have read what is posted on Lancer re. 4 faces. It poses many questions. I wish to know if you have managed to answer them? Particularly a photo of him? I'm also curious to know about his associates apart from those that can be gleaned from testimony. Up where he lived he was not far from HL Hunt and Bookhout. Do you know of others he lived close to? Indirectly, have you come across a Fay Leon Hunt or associates of his? Thanks in anticipation.

I think this post from another topic typifies the success of the conspiracy as I see it. "The nuclear test ban treaty, rapprochement with Cuba, plans to circumvent the Federal Reserve, plans to scrap the oil depletion allowance, his planned timetable for the removal of personnel from Vietnam, his unfavorable disposition towards the CIA post BOP and lastly, the extremely unlucky position he occupied* are far more persuasive reasons for his assassination than Bobby's alleged dealings with the underworld and anti-Castro Cubans." While the series of questions on the Politics forum were under way, I did an analysis of where interest lay. Roughly the order was Tax, Bible, Foreign Policy , with Tax far outweighing the other two. Now Bible has caught up but foreign policy is way down. The USA in 1963 was a country undergoing big changes. Basically it was a nation divided. The one topic that roused people to violent action was the segregation - integration issue of the south, which is where Kennedy was assassinated! Contrary to any evidence the Civil Rights activists were painted red. Sullivan et al sought to drive King to suicide, Walker called for armed insurrection, Activists were being murdered, Sullivan hinted at a hand in Malcolm Xs assassination. The threat to the established economic structure that had been in place for so long affected whole states. The atmosphere this created, combined with the 'red menace' myth, was more than sufficient to drive those affected to considering assassinating the President. The external issues provided a convenient focus for diverting the attention of investigators. It was, and is successful. The difference now is that records that were not in the immediate kennedy investigation are now being released. The assassins are dead. The intense need to maintain the castro-mob-anti castro myths are over. I think it is time for investigators to turn their attention to the truth known instinctively by those involved back in the beginning and stop being puppets to the smoke screen.

Ray, this is the best Towner vid. cap I have. According to what Gary says , better are available.

By 1965 Walker seems to have made at least $3,800,000.00 minus costs on his activities as 'anti communist assett' ---------------------------------------- In 1957, General Walker was actually credited with furthering the cause of racial integration after he led federal troops integrating the schools in Little Rock, Ark. Actually, Gen. Walker led the troops only after President Eisenhower refused his resignation, historian Don E. Carleton, author of Red Scare, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "He did not want to carry out that order," Mr. Carleton said. "He did not believe in racial integration" (General Walker obituary, AP release, November 2, 1993). General Edwin A. Walker resigned from the Army in November 1961 after he was chastised by the Pentagon for distributing Birch Society propaganda to his troops. He was temporarily relieved of command, pending an investigation. Walker - a Bircher, also was the head of Committee for the Defense of Christian Culture, and the general once made a bid for governor but finished last in the 1962 Democratic runoff. In 1962, Dallas officials of the John Birch Society attended a meeting with H.L Hunt, General Edwin Walker, Robert Morris (leader of the Defenders of American Liberty, president of Plato University in New Jersey and former chief counsel for the U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee), and Larrie Schmidt. Late in September, 1962, James Meredith was seeking to become the first black ever admitted to the University of Mississippi. Mississippi governor Ross Barnett set out to block it, and Kennedy ordered National Guardsmen deployed on Meredith's behalf. That was when General Walker called for ten thousand civilians to march on Oxford, Mississippi, in opposition. [Kennedy and Bobby had been involved in intense negotiations to get Barnett to back down, and it was only after they informed him that they had been taping the phone conversations that Barnett appeared to back down. However on the day Walker was bunkered down in Oxford directing operations and the highway partrol that Barnett was supposed to be controlling were letting Walkers men into the war zone. Walker was on the scene when rioting erupted against four hundred federal marshals escorting Meredith onto the campus." Two people were killed in the melee, and 70 were wounded. The next morning, "Walker was arrested by federal authorities on four counts, including insurrection, and flown for psychiatric observation to the Medical Center for Federal Prisoners at Springfield, Missouri." The Liberty Lobby hastened to General Walker's defense, and blamed the Kennedys for waging a campaign against Walker to "reduce his prestige" and "asset value to the anti-Communist cause". Walker flew the U.S. flag upside down to express his rage over the perceived "communist" leanings of Kennedy and other government officials, according to Darwin Payne, a former Dallas newspaper reporter. "He was not a good speaker. He was a poor campaigner and finished last in a field of six [in the gubernatorial race], which was a surprise because he had so many ardent followers in the right wing," Mr. Payne says (Walker obituary)." The JBS waged its grass-roots, populist approach to psychological warfare with much scape-goating. In The Radical Right (Random House, 1967), Epstein and Arnold offer that at the 1965 convention of the Christian Crusade, another fascist front, General Walker, "in speaking of the man who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, President Kennedy's assassin, urged his listeners not to forget that Ruby's name was Rubenstein, and they can't change that fact no matter how often they refer to him as Ruby." ______________________ With so much backing and involvement it's hard to credit an idea that Walker was short of a quid.

In the last frames in which the TSBD entrance is seen in the Towner film, the lovelady/oswald figure does not appear to be there yet. The limo at this point has just passed in front of the entrance. Is a good quality cap available?

The Smoot Report, Buckley, and General Walker The first conspiracy publicised was promoted by the JBS through Dan Smoots 'the Smoot Report' It pointed to a conspiracy that pointed at the percieved enemies of the USA foreign communism, but not at the enemies that the Birchers were engaged with such as domestic liberals, civil rights activists. In this way they pointed away from a suggestion that they were involved. DAN SMOOT "In 1962, Dan Smoot's The Invisible Government exposed as fronts for international Bolshevism a number of policy groups. Democracy was teetering. Smoot had unearthed the enemies in our midst: the Committee for Economic Development, the Advertising Council, the Atlantic Council (formerly the Atlantic Union Committee), the Business Advisory Council and the Trilateral Commission. Smoot, incidentally, reported to FBI headquarters in Washington before he was bitten by the bug to publish his neo-fascist newsletter, The Dan Smoot Report. "Somewhere at the top of the pyramid in the invisible government," he wrote, "are a few sinister people who know exactly what they are doing: They want America to become part of a worldwide socialist dictatorship under the control of the Kremlin" (Political Research Associates). The rabble rousing of Welch, Manion, Smoot and other Birch Society celebrities was understandably disturbing to some of the political targets of the abuse." READERS DIGEST Reader's Digest? The "funny little magazine" dredges up another directorate often linked to such groups - the CIA. In the Eisenhower period, propagandists on the Agency payroll were featured on a regular basis in the Digest, including Allen Dulles, Carl Rowan, James Burnham, Brian Crozier and Stewart Alsop. The magazine remains a glib tool of CIA propaganda. "An exception to the public apathy that met Welch's cultic bund was William Kintner, a former CIA officer who castigated critics of the extreme right in the the May, 1962 issue of Reader's Digest. Kintner maintained that the "campaign" waged against radical right havens like the John Birch Society began when "dossiers in Moscow's espionage headquarters were combed for the names of unsuspecting persons in the United States who might do the Kremlin's work." Anyone maligning the home corporate-military state was therefore a suspected Soviet agent hawking "disinformation."" "Hey, Hey, JFK - How Many Birchers Gunned You Down Today?" But the Birch Society's ambitions went far beyond control of small-town politics. Members taking objection to Kennedy's Communist "appeasement" policies went so far as to plot the overthrow of the government. In 1962, Dallas officials of the John Birch Society attended a meeting with H.L Hunt, General Edwin Walker, Robert Morris (leader of the Defenders of American Liberty, president of Plato University in New Jersey and former chief counsel for the U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee), and Larrie Schmidt, a veteran of two tours of Army duty in Munich who idolized Hermann Goering. Back home, Schmidt, his head wheeling with Bircher propaganda disseminated by General Walker back in Germany, took a position at United Press International. He had made plans while stationed in the Rhineland to start an organization he called CUSA, short for "Conservatism U.S.A." By the summer of 1962, Schmidt organized a platoon of zealots from the Military Police and Counter-Intelligence Corps. Look magazine (January 26, 1965) reported that Schmidt "trained a small, disciplined band of soldier-conspirators to follow him stateside and do, he hoped, 'whatever is necessary to accomplish our goal.'" Schmidt's coup plan called for infiltrating conservative organization around the country, and marshalling them to overthrow of the Kennedy government. The core of this seditious secret army was to be the first organization drawn into Schmidt's plan - Young Americans for Freedom, the Birch Society offshoot that boasted some 50,000 members - by arrangement with Heidelberg-born Major General Charles Willoughby, true name Weidenbach, a YAF founder,..." RONALD REAGAN "The name Kennedy irritated the colons of good Birchers everywhere. Ronald Reagan, president of the Screen Actors' Guild and FBI snitch, under secret contract with MCA management, emerging political star in Hollywood, was closer to the mark. After the 1964 presidential election, Democratic Party officials crafted a plan to take on right-wing extremists in the public arena, including one of Reagan's support groups, Citizens for Constitutional Action a "conservative" grassroots organization that had backed Goldwater in his presidential run and thereby splinter the Republicans. As it happened, both Goldwater and the John Birch Society received lavish support from J. Howard Pew, owner of the Sun Oil Company (Colby and Dennett, The Will Be Done, HarperCollins, 1995, p. 453). The Republicans countered with measures tailored to ensure party unity. Reagan was cautioned not to allow himself to be defined as either a moderate or conservative. "During one secret strategy meeting," Curt Gentry (in The Last Days of the Late, Great State of California Putnam's, 1968) wrote, "John Rousselot, national public relations director of the John Birch Society, approached Stuart Spencer with a coldly pragmatic offer: the society would be glad to endorse Reagan or denounce him, whichever would help most" (p. 125). When Reagan was sworn in as governor of California on January 2, 1967, he was congratulated by Robert Welch himself. Welch proudly proclaimed that the Birch Society was, "in large part," deserving of credit for Reagan's electoral victory. JBS, BUCKLEY, and the NATIONAL REVIEW "The Birch Society was founded in 1959 by Robert Welch. Welch attended the U.S. Naval Academy and studied law at Harvard for two years. He was vice president of the James O. Welch candy company in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He was also vice chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Party Finance Committee in 1948. Welch made an unsuccessful bid for the office of Lt. Governor in the 1950 Republican primary. He was a ranking director of the National Association of Manufacturers, the subject of many a rancorous essay by George Seldes, who found NAM, in the 1950s, to be a hive of reactionary corporate intrigues. His funding came primarily from Texas oil billionaire H.L. Hunt - a Texas oil "patriot" and the sponsor of a vitriolic right-wing radio program, Lifeline, that aired in 42 states - Pew's Sunoco, and NAM's corporate constituents According to Welch, both the US and Soviet governments are controlled by the same furtive conspiratorial cabal of internationalists, greedy bankers and corrupt politicians. If left unexposed, the traitors inside the US government would betray the country's sovereignty to the United Nations for a collectivist new world order managed by a 'one-world socialist government.'" This was the game, substituting "fascist" with "socialist," reversing the perceived polarity of corporatism. The Birch Society "incorporated many themes from pre-WWII rightist groups opposed to the New Deal, and had its base in the business nationalist sector." ... the National Review, in the early days indistinguishable from Birch Society propaganda. It was edited by William F. Buckley, a close friend of Welch's. In the first issue, released on November 19, 1955, Buckley printed a "Publisher's Statement" in which he declared war on "the Liberals who run the country," echoing the rhetoric of the Birch Society. The Review, Buckley boasted, "stands athwart history, yelling Stop!" " " William F. Buckley advertised himself as an independent thinker, journalist and publisher. But documents declassified by the Assassination Records Review Board have debunked his profiling. In Watergate "Plumber" Howard Hunt's Office of Security file, Dan Hardway of the House Select Committee found a number of documents concerning William F. Buckley. He was not merely a CIA agent. Buckley was a ranking officer, stationed for a spell in Mexico City to direct covert operations. Thereafter, Buckley attempted to conceal his CIA rank with Hunt's assistance. Documents subpeoned by Congress note that some articles published by the National Review were in fact written by the CIA's E. Howard Hunt (for instance, a review of The Invisible Government, by David Wise, a book highly critical of the Agency). When Buckley left the CIA to publish National Review, he maintained a subdued relationship with Hunt. (Jim DiEugenio, "Dodd and Dulles vs. Kennedy in Africa," Probe, January-February 1999, Vol. 6, No. 2). WALKER,JBS http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/the_early_days.html "General Edwin A. Walker resigned from the Army in November1961 after he was chastised by the Pentagon for distributing Birch Society propaganda to his troops. He was temporarily relieved of command, pending an investigation. Walker - a Bircher, also the head of Committee for the Defense of Christian Culture, a group with chapters in Bonn, Germany established by a Nazi - ultimately buffooned his way into a number of footnotes in Camelot history. Lee Harvey Oswald reportedly attempted to kill him, and the general once made a bid for governor but finished last in the 1962 Democratic runoff. Dick Russell recalls, "Late in September, 1962, the general made headlines around the world. James Meredith was seeking to become the first black ever admitted to the University of Mississippi. It was a landmark moment in the fight against racial segregation. Meredith's entry was mandated by a federal court order, and when Mississippi governor Ross Barnett set out to block it, Kennedy ordered National Guardsmen deployed on Meredith's behalf. That was when General Walker called for ten thousand civilians to march on Oxford, Mississippi, in opposition. Walker was on the scene when rioting erupted against four hundred federal marshals escorting Meredith onto the campus." Two people were killed in the melee, and 70 were wounded. The next morning, "Walker was arrested by federal authorities on four counts, including insurrection, and flown for psychiatric observation to the Medical Center for Federal Prisoners at Springfield, Missouri." The Liberty Lobby, another fascist front, hastened to General Walker's defense, and blamed the Kennedys for waging a campaign against Walker to "reduce his prestige" and "asset value to the anti-Communist cause" (p. 309). Back in 1957, General Walker was actually credited with furthering the cause of racial integration after he led federal troops integrating the schools in Little Rock, Ark. Actually, Gen. Walker led the troops only after President Eisenhower refused his resignation, historian Don E. Carleton, author of Red Scare, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "He did not want to carry out that order," Mr. Carleton said. "He did not believe in racial integration" (General Walker obituary, AP release, November 2, 1993). Walker flew the U.S. flag upside down to express his rage over the perceived "communist" leanings of Kennedy and other government officials, according to Darwin Payne, a former Dallas newspaper reporter. "He was not a good speaker. He was a poor campaigner and finished last in a field of six [in the gubernatorial race], which was a surprise because he had so many ardent followers in the right wing," Mr. Payne says (Walker obituary)."

--------------------------------------------------------- Was General Walkers activities turning him into a pauper that couldn't even afford an air conditioner? --------------------------------------------------------- This is the man arrested on four federal charges in Mississippi in 1962: "In 1961, Gen. Edwin Walker was commander of the 24th Division of the U.S. Army in West Germany, when he was relieved of his command because he attempted to indoctrinate his men with his political philosophy. Soon after, he resigned from the Army. In 1962-63, Gen. Edwin Walker had the financial backing of Haroldson L. Hunt, in his campaign to fight communism in the U.S.. H. L. Hunt was the richest oilman in Texas. Both men lived and worked in Dallas and were members of the John Birch Society." The Strange Case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker - http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/walker.txt "Those charges were: Section 111-- For assault and resisting or other opposing Federal officers, including marshals, in the performance of their duty. Section 372-- For conspiracy to prevent a Federal officer from discharging his duties. Section 2383-- For inciting or engaging in an insurrection against the United States. Section 2384-- For conspiracy to overthrow or oppose by force the execution of the laws of the United States. [[His public statement at Oxford was as follows: This is Edwin A. Walker. I am in Mississippi beside Gov. Ross Barnett. I call for a national protest against the conspiracy from within. Rally to the cause of freedom in righteous indignation, violent vocal protest and bitter silence under the flag of Mississippi at the use of Federal troops. This today is a disgrace to the nation in 'dire peril,' a disgrace beyond the capacity of anyone except its enemies. This is the conspiracy of the crucifixion by anti-Christ conspirators of the Supreme Court in their denial of prayer and their betrayal of a nation.]] A conspiracy is defined legally as including two or more persons. On October 7, 1962, Walker posted $50,000 bond and returned home to Dallas amid 200 cheering supporters carrying signs like "Welcome Home, General Walker," "Win With General Walker," and "President '64." On January 21, 1963, a federal grand jury in Oxford, Mississippi adjourned without indicting Walker on any of the four counts against him. The Justice Department dismissed the charges "without prejudice" after the grand jury failed to indict. The dismissal "without prejudice" meant that the charges could be reinstated before the five year statute of limitations expired. Walker and his supporters then went on the offensive. On April 2, 1963, a group called the Citizens Congressional Committee filed a petition with the Senate Judiciary Committee requesting an investigation of the treatment of "America's fearless patriot on the occasion of his incarceration at the instigation of the Department of Justice." Nine days later, on April 9, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the famous shooting incident occurred. Meanwhile, the American Medical Association was receiving "a volume of letters from individual physicians" charging Dr. Charles E. Smith, the Army psychiatrist -- who commented on Walker's mental state at the time of the Oxford violence -- with unethical conduct: that he made an improper diagnosis without a personal examination. Dr. Smith was cleared by the AMA on July 4, 1963. He said that news stories of Walker's "reported behavior reflects sensitivity and essentially unpredictable and seemingly bizarre outbursts of the type often observed in individuals suffering with paranoid mental disorder." The society had received 2,500 letters from physicians alleging unethical conduct by Dr. Smith. Nevertheless, the board unanimously ruled in Smith's favor. Walker then took his case to court, filing a total of $23 million dollars in libel damages against numerous media outlets alleging that they had made "false statements" and that their "suppression of truth was motivated by malice and a desire to hurt and harm him in his good reputation and blacken his good name." The statements in question were that he "led a charge of students against Federal marshals on the Ole Miss campus" and various other statements attributing to him a very active role in leading the insurrection such as "Walker assumed command of the crowd." A jury in Fort Worth awarded an $800,000 judgment against the Associated Press, ruling that malice was intended. The offensive was also being taken up by Republicans in Congress in an alliance with Southern Democrats, who wanted to embarrass Attorney General Robert Kennedy because of his civils rights activities. The House Judiciary Committee voted on September 1, 1964 by a margin of 18 to 14 to open an investigation of the Justice Department's handling of cases including, but not limited to, those of Jimmy Hoffa, Roy M. Cohn, and former Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker. The vote among Republican and Southern Democratic committee members was 16-2; that of non-Southern Democrats was 2-12. Meanwhile, a Louisiana jury awarded Walker $3 million in damages in another one of his libel suits." --------------------------------- Kennedy was now dead, Walker seemed to begin to fade from public view: --------------------------------- "His luck started to turn sour however, and finally on June 12, 1967, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 extending the constitutional protection of freedom of the press to libelous falsehoods about private individuals who willingly take part in public affairs. Such protections were already in place concerning libel against political officials, but this was a landmark case extending the applicability to private individuals who willingly venture into the public arena. Walker's awards were overturned. Chief Justice Warren explained, "Our citizenry has a legitimate and substantial interest in the conduct of such persons... Freedom of the press to engage in uninhibited debate about their involvement in public issues should be subject to derogatory criticism, even when based on false statements." Walker's name occasionally surfaced in the press after this, usually in connection with anti-UN activities or in connection with the presidential campaign of George Wallace."

New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 1 KENNEDY ASSERTS FAR-RIGHT GROUPS PROVOKE DISUNITY Attacks Birch Society and 'Minutemen' at a Party Dinner in Los Angeles, Spread of Fear Scored, President Says Real Threat Comes From Without, Not Within. by Tom Wicker LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18-- President Kennedy spoke out tonight against the right-wing John Birch Society and the so-called Minutemen in a speech at a Democratic Party dinner here. The President mentioned neither group by name but left no doubt whom he meant. [in Atlanta, Senator Barry Goldwater, Arizona Republican, attacked the "radicals in the White House." At a news conference, he called President Kennedy the "wagon master" who is "riding on the left wheel all the time."] The President, in his talk at the Hollywood Palladium, also made his first public response to Edward M. Dealey, publisher of the Dallas Morning News. Mr. Dealey attacked the President at a White House luncheon for "riding Caroline's tricycle" instead of being "a man on horseback." Some 'Escape Responsibility' "There have always been those fringes of our society who have sought to escape their own responsibility by finding a simple solution, an appealing slogan or a convenient scapegoat," Mr. Kennedy said. Now, he continued, "men who are unwilling to face up to the danger from without are convinced that the real danger comes from within. They look suspiciously at their neighbors and their leaders," he declared. "They call for a 'man on horseback' because they do not trust the people. They find treason in our finest churches, in our highest court, and even in the treatment of our water. They equate the Democratic Party with the welfare state, the welfare state with socialism, and socialism with communism. They object quite rightly to politics' intruding on the military -- but they are anxious for the military to engage in politics." ... Mr. Kennedy chose a region in which the John Birch Society has some of its strongest support to make his third and sharpest attack on what he called tonight "the discordant voices of extremism." In the first two speeches, at Chapel Hill, N. C., and Seattle, he also warned against left-wing and pacifist extremists. His remarks tonight were directed to far-right groups and individuals. The reference to "armed bands of civilian guerillas" appeared to be directed at the Minutemen, individual groups of which are being organized and armed in some parts of the country. The organization is reputed to be particularly strong in California. Los Angeles is regarded as almost the heartland of the Birch Society. Two Republican Representatives from its urban districts, John H. Rousselot and Edgar W. Hiestland, are avowed members. ..." from Buckley post well worth reading: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...indpost&p=42926 "The National Review’s first target was Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon. Buckley attacked what he saw was the administration’s concessions to communism and the welfare state. Buckley described Eisenhower program as “essentially one of measured socialism”."

just to labor this minor point a bit more. I'm not proposing this as a counter to a wide turn that hit the street curbing, it seems to me this is obviously not supported by much other evidence. I made an assumption based on a lack of knowlege re this curb hitting report. As the image shows, by extending street markings etc to vanishing point one can see a drift to right prior to the turn. I'm just suggesting that this is the beginning or preperation for the turn that started as a wide swing and as it got more into it tightened into the turn proper. (Like I said, a minor point, with, as far as I can see, not much significance either way.)

Leading on from Tippit topic JEFFERSON LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY -------------------------------- Company History: Date Event 01-01-1800 JEFFERSON LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY, DALLAS, TEXAS 01-01-1900 FIRST LICENSE ISSUED 11-23-1953 FORMERLY: COMMONWEALTH CASUALTY AND INSURANCE COMPANY DALLAS, TEXAS 10-06-1964 REINSURED BY TEXAS JEFFERSON LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY DALLAS, TEXAS C/A CANCELLED 11/09/1964 By the end of the 1850s life insurance sales again began to increase, climbing to almost $200 million by 1862 before tripling to just under $600 million by the end of the Civil War; life insurance in force peaked at $2 billion in 1871 [Figures 3 and 4]. Several factors contributed to this renewed success. First, the establishment of insurance departments in Massachusetts (1856) and New York (1859) to oversee the operation of fire, marine, and life insurance companies stimulated public confidence in the financial soundness of the industry. Additionally, in 1861 the Massachusetts legislature passed a non-forfeiture law, which forbade companies from terminating policies for lack of premium payment. Instead, the law stipulated that policies be converted to term life policies and that companies pay any death claims that occurred during this term period [term policies are issued only for a stipulated number of years, require reapplication on a regular basis, and consequently command significantly lower annual premiums which rise rapidly with age]. This law was further strengthened in 1880 when Massachusetts mandated that policyholders have the additional option of receiving a cash surrender value for a forfeited policy. The Civil War was another factor in this resurgence. Although the industry had no experience with mortality during war – particularly a war on American soil – and most policies contained clauses that voided them in the case of military service, several major companies decided to ensure war risks for an additional premium rate of 2% to 5%. While most companies just about broke even on these soldiers’ policies, the goodwill and publicity engendered with the payment of each death claim combined with a generally heightened awareness of mortality to greatly increase interest in life insurance. In the immediate postbellum period, investment in most industries increased dramatically and life insurance was no exception. Whereas only 43 companies existed on the eve of the war, the newfound popularity of life insurance resulted in the establishment of 107 companies between 1865 and 1870 [Figure 1]. just a thought on this. I wonder how the profits go for a life insurance company while people feel secure? Perhaps strife and insecurity is more profitable? (what, if any, were ties between kkk orother right wing organisations to the JLIC?)

a thought: from : http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca...10_AC_9_DRE.pdf The DRE chief of military operations, who also infiltrated into Cuba prior to the Bay of Pigs invasion and told the cominittee that the Cuban underground believed it had the total backing of the United States. By March 1961, however, one leader testified that the underground realized the invasion would be a failure, because the U.S. Government had failed to perform even before the invasion. "It never got us the supplies it promised and never did, the things it was supposed to do," he claimed. Another leader was also upset about Agency performance and once wrote to friends threatening to kill CIA personnel if anything ever happened to one person as a result of Agency bumbling. The DRE chief of military operations told the committee lie thought the invasion was designed to fail and that it was only conceived to relieve the pressure building in the anti-Castro exile community. Perhaps the CIA tie in is a complicated one. They would wish to neutralise this threat while maintaining an anti - communist stance. Perhaps Oswald here, with supposed Communist sympathies is tied to anti castro groups by judicious releases that serve the purpose of seeding doubt all around. The anti communists are provided with a focus and the pro castros are provided with a focus and the attention on the CIA is diverted. 'Divide and rule'? A further thought: I think the reality is a realisation that the anti castro moves were doomed because cubans basically supported castro may have led to a percieved need to explain coming failure and to resuscitate the counter revolution. Again the bluster about killing CIA agents if invasion failed may be a preperation for pressing further anti castro CIA ops. The CIA while sympathetic to anti communist action would not want to be dictated to. Again 'divide and rule' (a side note : Julius Caesar said Divide and Rule, not, as is often misquoted, 'Divide and Conquer', a minor point perhaps? In the moment of being able to generate division amongst ones enemies or those one wishes to control, one is to some extent in advantage situation. To stay in 'advantage' one only needs to keep opponents squabbling amongst themselves.)

Ron, I suppose you mean Altgens? Where may one find "p373 of POTP"?

How on earth does this translate as any sort of smalltalk, Without context its simply writing a few common drug names in a black book. If I wished to have a chat with a Russian speaker about soccer, no matter how knowledgable we may be, simply writting players names, and strip colours down would be meaningless. And the type of "chat" Pic and Marina were attempting by this method would be far more complex Some thoughts: In some societies intellectual exchanges as Pic is suggesting are considered 'small talk'. While Lee could have interpreted here Pic is saying: 'we' tried to communicate...'we' seemed to be able to do this... As they shared the medical field it seems reasonable to talk of medical things. As she came from a metric system and was prob only familiar with that and presumably Pic was familiar with both but mostly the Imperial (american imperial?) then a convo on this might be of interest to both. What I find a bit questionable is Pics off hand comment 'I think those are names of drugs she was writing down, I wouldn't know'. ??? Really? Given his job and the fact Marina was there to explain and presumably it was a topic of discussion, I'd say he likely knew very well. The main reason for being evasive around that is if he wanted to create an impression that he had nothing to do with drugs, and the only reason for doing that as far as I can see is because he did, in a way that was perhaps socially unacceptable (personal use, addiction, theft, alcoholism treatment) if not outright illegal. OK, so the calculations have nothing to do with drugs as can be seen from second lot of pages, but mileage calculations. Is the fact that they are written AROUND the drug names of importance? What I mean is they relate to a trip at the end of which is a gathering at which Marina jots down the Drug names. Pic then does the calculations at a later time? Indicative of creative accounting? Xi (curious coincidence that it's exhibit 60 and xi stands for the numeral 60) is repeated again on this second set of pages. Does it reappear on further pages? Another way of looking at bilirubin and urea is in the context of colouring agents, stains, and dyes. They are both part of body wastes. Bilirubin the pigment of er... 'xxxx'. Urea is a fixing agent used in dyeing cloth.

Howard I like that. Not sure I understand it all. In time maybe. Are you familiar with Marxs dialectics? If so, could it be a useful tool perhaps to use to describe these 'shifting' concepts. What I'm getting at is the slide of something into its opposite over time. The revolutionary becomes the reactionary? And the seed of the reactionary within the revolutionary can be percieved, understood, predicted?

from Gary : John, There was no wide turn. The limo turned from almost the exact center of Houston into the middle lane of the three-lane-wide Elm Street. The sole witness claim of a wide turn said the car almost hit the north curb of Elm! Obviously, that never happened. Again it appears that you are using substandard images for your studies. That's surprising, since very good material has been available to the general public - at least in the US - for many years. Gary Mack just keeping folks up to date. Gary, give me a few days and I'll put together something to show what I mean. It's not a reference to any car hitting the kerb. I wasn't aware that that was involved in the witness statement. I've been at this maybe 3/4 of a year now and all my source material is what people have been kindly posting on the net. I often become aware that better stuff is available. At the moment I have to take what I can get. I'm grateful for links or contacts to places for getting better material. I think I'm beginning to understand something here now. Because good stuff is available over there, you guys are automatically assuming it is over here. Well, maybe it is? For a newcomer to it's not that easy to figure all that out. No matter, a lot can be done with what I have and in time I hope to get more stuff.

Does this mean it appears to you that Wallace may be on to something? Hi, Ray. 50 years! @#$ ('Bugger it' is australiana used sometimes when something stupid is done.) Wallace may be on to something. Here is frame from early in Wiegman film. The TSBD entrance occurs very briefly at two separate pan shots. Could you check with Wallace and see if it is the figure he means and if so where a better one may be had? as you can see: a blob. but with v neck shirt over white t shirt.tallish white male.

Gee, if I answer, will it be thought I consider myself an expert? Bugger it, expert or not (wannabee is good) it is a field I'm interested in. I looked at the photos I could find and unfortunately could only see what Wallace was getting at but with no clarity to be able to offer any opinion axcept to say 'the blob of different shading has characteristics attriubuted to Oswald.' Has anyone got a good res pic?

There appears to be a little bit of comment on Angleton occurring on the forum at the moment. Unfortunately it is often of the 'throw the baby out with the bath water' kind. Angletons business was deception. He was supremely good at it. The problem with good deception is that it takes careful scrutiny to assess it. Mostly I think one doesn't want to go to the trouble. Some things to bear in mind with Angleton: All people go through stages. Angleton at 10 for example could not be said to be a master spy. Was the poet at Yale the master spy? The military man? Or the delusional old man? During this life span, no doubt this man said and did things that were true. similarly things that were not true. His adult profession was deceit. It started by looking at and trying to decode deceit. In the proces he became skilled at it. Did this then permeate all of his life , personal and 'public'. Or was he capable of coming home and leaving work at work for periods of time? I think it's reasonable to assume so. So, blanket statements such as 'Angleton is completely discredited' are incorrect. His job was to blur the distinction between what is clearly discreditable and what is clearly true. To arrive at the conclusion that much of his 'output' in life is discreditable is not a particularly magnificent thing. The thing to try to do is to understand him and through that gain some insight into how to read his many enigmatic acts. They need to be put in a historical context.: Which period in his life do they belong to? Whatever the act may be, how do we know about it? Is the knowledge of it verifiable? Whatever it may be, a comment, a writing, an act, what does it reveal in the sense of the unspoken, undone? The most significant concept that Angleton brought to attention was the 'room full of mirrors'. How he himself used it is something else entirely. The 'idea' is quite separable from the fomulator of it. To not get lost in the room of mirrors, or deceived by a camouflaged orchid (another 'concept' he used to describe this room of mirrors) one needs to study Angleton. I get an impression that he was quite contemptuous of people in general and got a certain amount of 'jollies' from carrying on the way he did. This overlaps into his professional life more towards the end. He also seems to have had a desire to tell what he knew, possibly to even scores. The telling of the orchid analogy seems to be in typical 'mirror' style to be like this. I think that at that moment he was telling the truth (which is quite separate from the concept itself, which is true irrespective of who tells it) and that his forceful separation between on the one hand Nosenko and on the other Angletons greenhouse. The orchid analogy was a revelation. My uinderstanding is that there is a movie happening shortly (de Caprio?) about Angleton. It would be good to get on the record as much clarity as possible before some of the lies are popularised.

from Gary: John, The Dorman camera, which was found and donated to The Sixth Floor Museum two years ago, was a Kodak Brownie that was geared for 16fps. When I supervised the transfer of the camera original film to tape many years ago, we found that a film speed of 18fps was obviously too fast, whereas 16fps yielded human movement in the family scenes that was very natural looking. According to clear copies of the Dorman and Hughes films, the JFK limo actually drifted slightly to the left (the west) as it turned. The Towner and Dorman films show that it turned directly into the middle lane of Elm Street. Gary Mack . . I've rechecked this and while it is correct that before the turn there is a drift to the left (west), when looking also at the Hughes film, after the turn onto hughes st, in approaching elm corner there is a drift to the right first. It's not important really except insofar as dealing with reports of a wide swing around the corner. What I'm suggesting is that this drift can be seen by a careful witness as a 'wide turn', starting earlier with the drift right and then drift left and then the turn proper. So witness correct, interpretation wrong.

I realise that the question posed by the student was related to religion of theism. I suppose the assumption that this is Christianity is understandable. In a strict sense there is a definition of religion that seems to me to apply given the form of the debate at the moment. "One definition, sometimes called the "function-based approach," defines religion as any set of beliefs and practices that have the function of addressing the fundamental questions of human identity, ethics, death and the existence of the Divine (if any). This broad definition encompasses all systems of belief, including those that affirm the existence of one God, and those that affirm the existence of many gods." ...and including those that don't such as a-theism. Influence from zealots of all kinds need to be moderated by education. Education, of course, not necessarily confined to the classroom, but also in the public arena. One thing about christianity is that it is a personal thing. What I mean by that is that it is available to anyone, whatever the political, cultural, ethnic, race, social, economic, criminal status, age, sex, mindset, mental state, intelligence, etc one happens to find oneself in. Once through choosing to believe in this 'unbelievable' thing, proof that it is a good choice comes. This does tend to often turn the person into a more accommodating , forgiving, tolerant than previously. Society, when this happens, benefits. There is a great deal of natural wisdom in this to be heeded. (As I've argued previously, high levels of wisdom may in instances be attained by a-theists as well. And the opposite is also true. Pre Judice is also a state of mind all may be infected with.) ________________________________ the following is a response to John's post below. I put it here cause I don't want to clutter the topic with my ideas. There is another position to be had on the issue of abortion. (it may be applied to any acts.) I'm not going to go into it in detail, those who have studied under Janov or others in that field will know what I mean, for others it's just an 'unverifiable' statement. I know from personal experience that life begins prior to conception. The ovum that formed part of me was fully formed but not activated, before my mother was born. The ovum that contained the information that became her was in her mother before she was born, etc. the sperm that formed part of me existed in my father before I was concieved. The activation of the ovum and its ejection into the fallopian tube of my mother, the ejection of my fathers sperm and the union of the ova and sperm in my mother brought together two consciousnessses and formed me. This consciousness exists in a timeless universe. Being is its focus. This awareness of being is uninterrupted by thought. It has no attachment to past or future. To be or not to be is all the same. It cannot be murdered in the sense that it will pause to consider this or mount any sort of court case to protect itself. It is and ..then; it is not.... Thats all. This consciousness exists within a grown human that has lost its senses and formed near unbreakable attachment to self. The society this being exists in is constructed by like minded individuals. The will and necessity here is life. If life is threatened by the existence of this little conscious, it is considered right to weigh priorities, cause and effect. The Doctor: A doctor plunges a knife into a persons stomach and as a result two things happen, he gets lots of money , the person dies. The doctor grows to old age and is loved. The thief: A thief plunges a knife into a persons stomach and as a result two things happen, he gets lots of money , the person dies. The thief is executed and forgotten. Motivation's the key. The surgeon was attempting to save a life, to do good. the thief stole and wurdered. Just because a law says someone (an abortionist for example) is a murderer, that doesn't make that person a murderer. I think it is up to each individual to check their own consciousness and see that they feel good about what they do within the parameters of their understanding. A baby that hits a cat on the head with a plate cannot be condemned. An older person doing the same should be held accountable. ______________________________________________

Article page 12 Time magazine October 26, 1962 "COMMUNISTS Gee, Men Last week in The Nation, former FBI Agent Jack Levine reported that nearly 1,500 of the Communist Party's 5,500 members are FBI informants -- almost one out of six. [actually almost one out of four: one out of 3.66 or 100 out of 366] Since members must pay party dues, this would make the FBI the largest single financial supporter of the Communist Party, USA. Concluded Levine : "The day will soon come when FBI informants, who are rising rapidly to the top, will capture complete control of the party." "

Further: With regards to the 'squiggle' next to Pics name and next to the calculation. "nB,0 is the amount of B when ξ = 0. A more general definition is ∆ξ = ∆nB/vB. The extent of reaction also depends on how the reaction equation is written, but it is independent of which entity in the reaction equation is used in the defintion. Example For the reaction is footnote (17), when ∆ξ = 2 mol, ∆n(N2) = -1 mol, ∆n(H2) = -3 mol, and ∆n(NH3) = +2 mol. This quantity was originally introduced as degrè d'avancement by de Donder." ξ is xi, term for 60 and 'extent of reaction'. It looks like a parenthsis. on the second set of pages seems to be an explanation of this. On the bottom of the second set of pages are two duplications of this but side on. Indicating perhaps that the person writing it here was leaning over to someone sitting nearby looking at the pages and writing from the side to explain the 'squiggles' meaning : xi. Edit:: To summarise my points. No misspellings: Morphinum Dicain Heroics I suggest it may be calculation for ξ Pic in using Morphine and Tetracain HCL to explore some of the mythical rites of ancient greeks under the guidance of Orpheus from the 'Age of Heoics'. I suggest this is a plausible reason for Pic's seeming evasiveness. (A closet Hippie? while it was an age of MKULTRA it was also 'the sixties') _____________________________________________ Or a crook back? Morphinum Hydrochloricum "...a substantial exacerbation of radicular pain syndrome in the course of discopathy resistant to traditional treatment. The observation of 61 non-surgical patients, who were given epidurally an analgetic (Bupivacainum hydrochloricum or Morphinum hydrochloricum) and a steroid antiphlogistic (Depo-Medrol) simultaneously, using a stationary catheter, confirms the efficacy of the method." Dicain ( Tetracain Hydrochloride ) "[The effect of concurrent atherosclerosis on the permeability of the dura mater and the efficacy of epidural analgesia with morphine and dicain] [Article in Russian] Vitenbek IA. The permeability of spinal dura mater (SDM) was examined for morphine and tetracaine hydrochloride in 7 suddenly died patients with profound morphological manifestations. Atherosclerosis was found to show an average 37% increase in SDM permeability. With this, the efficiency of postoperative epidural analgesia (EA) with morphine was studied in 32 surgical patients with concurrent atherosclerosis. EA was demonstrated to be not only beneficial for this category of patients, unlike control patients, but followed by a significant decrease in respiratory center sensitivity to CO2. It was concluded that the regularities found should be taken into account during EA with narcotic analgesics in patients with concurrent atherosclerosis. PMID: 2596724 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] " EDIT on second thought , I don't feel confident about the Heroics bit, it s too speculative on my part.

Heroica With regards to 'Heroica', a number of cultural references are perhaps relevant: Place name: Heroica Zitacuaro, Michoacan, Mexico Russian sculptor: Artist - Boris Lovet-Lorski Born - 1894 Died - 1973 Origin - Russia Year Built - 1965 About the Artist: Raised on his parents' Lithuanian estate, Boris Lovet-Lorski went to St. Petersburg, Russia, as a teen for artistic training. After brief study at the Imperial Academy of Art, he fled Russia in 1916 during the Bolshevik Revolution, traveling across Europe and arriving in the United States in 1920. In 1921, he was offered a position at the Layton School of Art in Milwaukee, and two years later he had his first solo exhibition at the nearby Milwaukee Art Institute. He became a citizen in 1925. Lovet-Lorski left for Paris in 1926, exhibiting in the Salon d'Automne that same year. During his sojourn in Paris, he began carving portrait busts and quickly earned a reputation as a portraitist. Although Lovet-Lorski worked primarily in stone during his early career, severe arthritis in his arms forced him to concentrate on bronze casting from the 1950s until his death. For most of his career, Lovet-Lorski worked in a stylized Art Deco style inspired by Classical Greek sculpture. Heroica, 1965, depicts an idealized female nude, a recurring subject for Lovet-Lorski. Despite the stylization of the contours, the artist preferred rough, expressive textures characteristic of chiseled stone. Heroica looks to both the contemporary direct carving movement, particularly the work of Jose de Creeft, and to the late work of Michelangelo. Music: Heroica Sonata Emblem Project Utrecht Symbola heroica author Paradin, Claude main title Symbola heroica place Antwerpen date 1583 possibly most relevant is the ages of man which the above are based on: (wikipedia) Heroic Age This article treats the Heroic Age of the Greeks. For the so-called Heroic Age when the Germanic tribes are concerned, see Germanic Iron Age. The Heroic Age was the period of Greek mythological history that lay between the purely divine events of the Theogony and Titanomachy and the advent of historical time after the Trojan War. It was demarcated as one of the five Ages of Man by Hesiod. The Greek heroes can be grouped into an approximate chronology, based on the great meet-up events of the Argonautic expedition and the Trojan War. While the inherently contradictory nature of mythical evidence makes precision impossible, the following represents a reasonably accurate timeline of the Greek Heroic Age. Before the Argonauts Aeacus, Agenor and Phoenix, Cadmus, Europa, Cilix, Labdacus, Tantalus, Oenomaeus The generation of the Argonauts (about three generations before Troy) The Argonauts: Atalanta, Autolycus, Calais, Castor and Polydeuces, Echion, Euphemus, Euryalus, Heracles, Hylas, Idas, Idmon, Jason, Laertes, Lynceus, Meleager, Nestor, Oileus, Orpheus, Peleus, Poeas, Polyphemus, Poriclymenus, Telamon, Theseus, Tiphys, Zetes. Medea. Others: Pelops, Perseus, Hippodamia, Laius, Minos, Rhadymanthus, Sarpedon (1), Myrtilus. Orpheus: From the 6th century BC onwards he was looked upon as one of the chief poets and musicians of antiquity, the inventor or perfecter of the lyre, who by his music and singing was able not only to charm the wild beasts, but even to draw the trees and rocks from their places, and to arrest the rivers in their course. As one of the pioneers of civilization, he was supposed to have taught mankind the arts of medicine, writing and agriculture. As closely connected with religious life, he was an augur and seer; practised magical arts, especially astrology; founded or rendered accessible many important cults, such as those of Apollo and Thracian god Dionysus; instituted mystic rites, both public and private; prescribed initiatory and purificatory ritual. Morphine: Morphine was first used medicinally as a painkiller and, erroneously, as a cure for opium addiction. It quickly replaced opium as a cure-all recommended by doctors and as a recreational drug and was readily available from drugstores or through the mail. Substitution of morphine addiction for alcohol addiction was considered beneficial by some physicians because alcohol is more destructive to the body and is more likely to trigger antisocial behavior. Morphine was used during the American Civil War as a surgical anesthetic and was sent home with many wounded soldiers for relief of pain. At the end of the war, over 400,000 people had the “army disease,” morphine addiction. The Franco-Prussian War in Europe had a similar effect. In 1906 the Pure Food and Drug Act required accurate labeling of patent medicines and tonics. Various laws restricting the importation of opium were enacted, and the Harrison Narcotics Act (1914) prohibited possession of narcotics unless properly prescribed by a physician. Despite legislation, morphine maintained much of its popularity until heroin came into use, it in its turn believed to be a cure for morphine addiction.

from other topics. ============================================================================= Four days after JFK's announcement, a group of right-wing nuts comprised of businessmen and ex and current military officers, met in New Orleans as the "Congress For Freedom". One of those businessmen was William B. Reilly, who owned the William B. Reilly Coffee Company and was a financial supporter of all kinds of right-wing causes. Among the topics discussed at this two day event were the assassinations of JFK, RFK and Dr. King. The fact that there were active military officers present indicates to me that the assassination of the President was being discussed at military levels. A week after this meeting, a fake assassination attempt is staged against Gen. Walker. Less than two weeks later, Oswald is off to New Orleans, presumably to gather information on the plot to kill JFK. He gets a job at (of all places) the William B. Reilly Coffee Co. as a mechanic. According to witnesses, he doesn't spend much time there though and instead hangs out at Adrian Alba's garage across the street, where he questions Alba regarding mail-order guns. To bolster my claim of Oswald being an informant, Alba claimed that he saw Oswald receive an "envelope" from a "Secret Service" man from Washington. Alba further claimed that this man met Oswald twice, my experience telling me that the first meeting was to pass to Oswald pictures of individuals or informaton that they needed, the second meeting was for Oswald to deliver and receive payment for services rendered. Keep in mind that it is during this time that the training camp at Lake Ponchartrain is operational (in violation of Kennedy's orders), and that a team of shooters is being trained at the CIA facilities in the Florida Keys. The same team that will move into Ponchartrain shortly before Oswald arrives there, as a guest of David Ferrie. Exactly a week after Oswald's arrival, the FBI raids the camp. Several days later, Oswald is in Carlos Bringuier's store trying to find out where the "kill team" is now training. But Bringuier pegs him as an FBI informant and tells him nothing. A couple of days later, having been identified as the "rat" on the Ponchartrain camp, Oswald is sent by Bannister to pass out pro-Castro handbills on a New Orleans streetcorner, where he is filmed by a man named John Martin from St. Paul, Minnesota. Martin is a friend of General Walker's. When an ensuing scuffle breaks out between Oswald and the anti-Castro Cubans, the resulting arrests give General Walker and his co-conspirators the proof they need to connect Oswald to Castro. It comes in the form of official records, an audio radio interview and a video recording. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Buchanan rewrites history Buchanan appears to not be a very deep thinker, either that or he has reasons for tailoring reality in order to argue his case. Krennedy's approach to civil rights was a marked change from the previous administration. Johnson faced up to the inevitable that Kennedy had chosen to go into the 64 elections with : a legislation driven approach to civil Rights. He had declared an end to waiting... The idea that these right wingers were not prepared to face death around the issue of segregation is equally absurd. These were the backers, instigators of the insurrection of 62, they supported organisations that regularly did things that made candidates for death penalty. This is why they may have appeared to not be overly concerned with the blacks in Dallas, : through bitter history, they knew their place! 63 ' Texas is the south, a south where General Walker can call on men from other states and have them respond. With guns. From John Simkins topic on Buchanan: Thomas G. Buchanan looks at the motives of the conspirators. Remember, this was published in May, 1964. "1. On civil rights, despite the fact that Lyndon Johnson is a Southerner, there is no overwhelming difference between the martyred President and his successor. Johnson is, by Southern standards, rather liberal in his approach to civil rights. He is no Dixiecrat; he certainly can be expected to pursue a policy of gradual extension of desegregation practically indistinguishable from the previous administration. It is for this reason that I have not even bothered to discuss the possibility that Kennedy was murdered by pro-segregationists. I find no evidence at all which would sustain this thesis. Anti-Negro sentiment, of course, plays an important part in furnishing a mass basis for extreme right-wing activity in the United States, just as anti-Semitism did in Germany, during the rise of Hitler. Thyssen was not, however, motivated by his anti-Semitism, but by certain economic objectives in which he thought the Nazis would serve a useful purpose. I do not believe that any Texas millionaire would risk electrocution to finance the President's assassination for such motives. He would have no contact with the Negro population of his State, who represent a mere 12 per cent of those who live in Texas. Dallas is not Birmingham, and Texas is not Mississippi. The right-wing of Dallas is inflamed against the Reds; it scarcely notices the Blacks' existence." The FBI, (whos members past and present were part of the anti integration fighti) dentified the communist with the civil rights activist in no uncertain terms

Greg, thanks for posting the relevant pages. Some observations. Diceiv : An analysis of the grayscale values shows that the word is more likely dicain which is a name for a generic class Tetracain hydrochloride which is an anaesthetic used for such things as eyes. Morphinum apart from the above (hypnotic etc) is also a pain killer. 'heroics' has a few possibilities so I'll work on that, one thing that stands out is that in some respects, it was written at a different time to the other words possibly by a different person and with a different pen. Overall the numbers relating to the morph is the first and the second the dicain, Its a possibility he may have been evasive ('i don't know') as he may have been embarrassed about why he was interested in them?