John Dolva

Then and Now

Wound Ballistics I think that a correct description of Kennedy's head movements over zframes is "a gradual turning and tilting towards Jackie from sometime shortly after the sign. By zf312, JFK's shoulder is above his ear, possibly higher, this turning and tilting continues for about 2/3 of the time between zf312 and zf313. By this time the top of his head is facing roughly the south knoll. Then a bullet, possibly two, strikes his head on the top of his head above the hairline to the right of the midline. This massive initial force propels his head to the right where it encounters the structure of the shoulder bones and is deflected downward from where it rebounds to the main position captured in the 1/35-1/40 seconds of a series of impressions on zf313. As his body is kept rigid by a rigid web of back bracing, this force also transmits to the seat springs. Further, he is restrained by Jackies hand. As the seat springs rebound the Limousine also accelerates AND diverges from its path swinging to the right. The combination of these forces result in 'back and to the left'. Kennedy was shot from the left. The 'blowback' of grey matter and debris is a typical result of the pulse effect of a bullet going from one medium into a denser one. With regards to wound ballistics, as is shown at http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/ww...tcs/default.htm (warning: some of the images at this site and links may be disturbing) it is more than melons that show the distinctive pulsed response re material ejecta. It doesn't seem to matter if it's bananas, apples, buckets of water, dry skulls, filled skulls, goat skulls, cat skulls, stomachs, thighs, blocks of gelatine, frozen lemons, limes or melons. All exhibit the characteristic enlargement, fragmentation, pulsing, subsidence that contribute to the dispersal of wound matter. Here is the side xray photo 'wrapped' on to a 3D model of Kennedy's head, then 'twirled' to the direction corresponding to a photo of Kennedy, superimposed and tilted into the orientation I think he was in if one looks at the limo roughly head on. Photos of various objects passing from a medium into a denser one. Photo of fracture pattern from side ways blow.

trajectory

fellow Boneheads with Luce in 1920 (from Bonehead Topic) Adams Lewis G. 1920 Davison Henry Pomeroy 1920 Hadden Briton 1920 Heffelfinger Frank Peavey 1920 Hincks John Morris 1920 Hobson Francis Thayer 1920 Ingalls David Sinton 1920 Luce Henry Robinson 1920 McHenry James 1920 Patterson Morehead 1920 Safford Theodore Lee 1920 Sargent Joseph Weir 1920 Schermerhorn Alfred Cosler 1920 Van Slyck DeForest 1920 Winter Daniel R. 1920 ........... ........... They handed over to: Winter II Edwin Wheeler 1921 Stewart John 1921 Shevlin Edward Leonard 1921 Parsons Langdon 1921 Neville James E. 1921 Lunt Storer Boardman 1921 Litt Willard David 1921 Jenckes Marcien 1921 Hord Stephen Young 1921 Heminway Bartow Lewis 1921 Cowles William Sheffield 1921 Bundy Frederick McGeorge 1921 Brewster Walter Rice 1921 Bradley Charles Harvey 1921 Acosta John Sidney 1921 ......... ......... and took over from: Allen Parker Breese 1919 Baldwin Sherman 1919 Campbell Alan Barnette 1919 Carter Frederic Dewhurst 1919 Depew Canson Goodyear 1919 Gaillard Edward McCrady 1919 Hadley Hamilton 1919 Haffner, Jr. Charles C. 1919 Mallon John Howard 1919 McCormick, Jr. Alexander Agnew 1919 McKee Elmore Mcneill 1919 Mead Winter 1919 Otis James Sanford 1919 Smith Traver 1919 Walker George Nesmith 1919

Just an alert to members who might not otherwise be aware of this sort of thing. I certainly wasn't till I started looking into it recently. Good idea to have a firewall up and running. Trying to track some of the recent 'theplanet' probes blocked by firewall : OrgName: ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc. OrgID: TPCM Address: 1333 North Stemmons Freeway Address: Suite 110 City: Dallas StateProv: TX PostalCode: 75207 Country: US ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.theplanet.com:4321 NetRange: 70.84.0.0 - 70.87.127.255 CIDR: 70.84.0.0/15, 70.86.0.0/16, 70.87.0.0/17 NetName: NETBLK-THEPLANET-BLK-13 NetHandle: NET-70-84-0-0-1 Parent: NET-70-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.THEPLANET.COM NameServer: NS2.THEPLANET.COM name: www.g00ns.com class: IN type: PTR data: 147.70-84-85.reverse.theplanet.com time to live: 3600s "Right Wing Hackers Attack Independent Media Centers from "Notes from the Hacker Underground" at HackThisSite.org ................ During the Republican National Convention, a group of hackers called RightWingExtremist.net was formed by Brett Chance(elac, clorox, awb0t, etc) from Plano TX. This group came out of the ultra conservative ProtestWarrior.com who advocates disrupting and attacking leftist organizations. .....a group calling itself the g00ns.com have attacked and defaced a dozen indymedia websites using the vulnerability posted to dadaimc. On the hacked websites, a message calling indymedia 'liars' and 'anti-republicans' were posted. Soon after, hackers and indymedia techs started working together to fix each other's code and bring backups back online as well as find information about the g00ns. The g00ns started out by targetting and attacking online gaming clan websites, but eventually Elac from RightWingExtremist.net joined up and started to turn the group farther to the right. When the IndyMedia sites were hacked, people started to gather information and infiltrate their organization and soon after all of their private details were released to the public to show like actions like this will not go unnoticed. Many other right-wing trolls continue to try to disrupt IndyMedia and left-wing protest groups. These individuals operate under several different names including ProtestWarrior.com, RightWingExtremist.net, FreeRepublic.com, KobeHQ.com, FreeDominion.com, LittleGreenFootballs.com, and more. Many of these groups are suspected of being financed operations from governments or corporations similar to the COINTELPRO program from the 60s and 70s. Common activities range from flooding message boards, faking votes and reviews in online polls, releasing personal information of key organizers, spreading false rumors and scandals, etc. ............. http://www.dadaimc.org/mod/software/alerts...dex.php?alert=1 http://www.dadaimc.org/support.php?section=xss ...................... Protest Warriors Connectable to the CIA by linkmeister at 02.May.2005 21:49 Here's another interesting look at these right wing groups http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/242330.shtml ************** Connection between Protester Warriors, KOBE (the online rightwing harassment squad) and Cycorp (defense contractor working for DARPA and the Information Awareness Office) found. KOBE and the Protest Warriors are centered in Austin, Texas. Josiah Hagen has been established as a member of KOBE. The Protest Warriors have been established as harassers of NY IndyMedia in the form of automated vote tampering visa via article ratings with the purpose of suppressing articles they wish to prevent readers from viewing. KOBE has identified itself as the source of the Protest Warrior harassment of NYC IndyMedia: http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/124183/index.php Comment from "K Crew" in the above link was posted by KOBE to indicate that they had used their program to suppress a posting. "K Crew" has previously identified itself as KOBE. Josiah Hagen, established member of KOBE uses a gun range in Austin, Texas. That same gun range is featured on the Protest Warrior's website showing the two persons running the Protest Warrior's website on the range. Josiah Hagen also works for Cycorp, a defense contractor with contracts with DARPA, CIA, IAO, and NSA. Therefore, the CIA, NSA, Protest Warriors and KOBE are all connected through personal contacts. ************** The argument establishes that the Protest Warriors and KOBE work TOGETHER in concert. That is, the Protest Warriors call for an coordinate attacks against NYC IndyMedia and KOBE provides the means to execute those attacks and carries them out. KOBE is run by Josiah Hagen. Josiah Hagen works for a small employer and the projects they are working on are for the CIA. Furthermore, an inside source confirms and offer by the CIA to Cycorp to wage cyber warfare on Americans. That project is KOBE. Therefore KOBE is a private project funded by the CIA. KOBE and Protest Warriors share resources and wor as one online. Therefore, Protest Warriors is separated from the CIA only by KOBE. Josiah Hagen, in addition to these activities, is a member of the same very small gun range that the leaders of the Protest Warriors use. For mysterious reasons the Protest Warrior leaders were moved from the Bay area of California to Austin just when they began operations. This is a direct and irrefutable connection. ************** Prior Areas of Operations for Protest Warrior "founder": KFIR ALFIA DOB 17-MAY-74 ZIP 33180 Ojus, Florida (North of Miami on East Coast of FL) KFIR ALFIA DOB 17-MAY-74 75248 Dallas, Texas (North of the city core, outside the 635 loop) Current Area of Operations: ProtestWarrior LLC 659 Mangels Ave. Austin TX 78759 207.234.148.161 .......Partner Alan Lipton: ALAN R LIPTON DOB 08-FEB-74 ZIP 75287 (Dalls, about 4 miles NW of Kfir Alfia's address in Dallas, across the Dallas North Tollway from Kfir) ..... election@co.travis.tx.us , (512) 238-VOTE (238-8683 a 24-hour automated voice-response system), fax (512) 854-9075 Elections Division, Travis County Clerk PO Box 149325, Austin, TX 78714 Posted by: A. at Sep 27, 2004 10:47 http://www.unclaw.com/chin/personal/bsmalumni.htm Says: "Josiah Hagen (Spring 1998) jhagen@cs.oberlin.edu NEWS: (Dated June 2000) Working on AI at Cycorp in Austin, TX. " The identity of another KOBE member is known. Posted by: Rational Anarchist at Sep 27, 2004 19:09 Someone by the name of Stephen R DeVoy was working at CyCorp around the time in question. He left under mysterious circumstances and a few weeks later the KOBE organization appeared. I believe Stephen DeVoy is the mastermind behind the KOBE organization. The timeline is correct, the modus opperandi fits...... DeVoy is the leader of the group, a government toady. DeVoy's last known address Posted by: The UPS guy at Sep 27, 2004 19:26 71 Whiting Ave. Dedham, MA United States Dedham, MA US No, DeVoy is they guy they got rid of. Posted by: Cyclist at Sep 27, 2004 19:36 DeVoy was the Programming Department Director they got rid of for opposing the project. He's one of their victims. You sure about that? Posted by: Gustavo Espada at Sep 27, 2004 19:51 I am sure Stephen told me he was working on some secret stuff that he could not tell me about. Sort of COINTELPRO but the other way around. Gustavo Espada Posted by: Rebel at Sep 27, 2004 20:04 If I remember clearly, Gustavo Espada was raised in US Embassies in Columbia, Brazil and Nicaragua where he had much contact with and was protected by the CIA. I also seem to remember Gustavo Espada filming activists in Cambridge, MA and providing the film to the very operation the article is about: KOBE. That film was used to harass activists, including DeVoy. Gustavo Espada's father currently works in the US Embassy in Nicaragua. Evidence supports the belief that he works for the CIA undercover at Harvard University."

well, I dont know how active in Greece but Angleton was busy in Italy.

Harry's Boss, J.Edward Day prior to august 1963, was appointed by Kennedy as Postmaster General in '61. a CIA document, written by Mr. Helms, describes a disturbing meeting Day had with Dulles, Helms and Roosevelt three weeks after he had started work, stating in the second sentence of the paragraph, “We gave him the background, development, and current status, withholding no relevant details.” Day denied having been told this but admitted that Dulles and co. had come to see him to tell him something 'very secret'. Day resigned for reasons variously described as 'financial', and 'differences with Kennedy', in July 1963.

"Two FBI mail-opening programs were suspended for security reasons involving changes in local postal personnel and never reinstituted, on the theory that the value of the programs did not justify the risk involved. (Memorandum from San Francisco Field Office to FBI Headquarters, 5/19/66.) The CIA's San Francisco* mail-opening project "was terminated since the risk factor outweighed continuing an activity which had already achieved its objectives." (Memorandum to Chief, East Asia Division, June 1973.) The lack of any significant intelligence value to the CIA apparently led to the termination of the New Orleans mail-opening program. (Memorandum from "Identity 13" to Deputy Director of Security, 10/9/57.) Three other programs were terminated because they had produced no valuable counterintelligence information, while diverting manpower needed for other operations. " *could this program be the one that Reagan performed a peripheral role in? That Reagan was involved in something in San Fransisco is apparent from reports of "the Reagan Ruckus", where in 1965 the John Birch Society was offering to support or oppose Reagan depending on how he thought they could be most helpful to him.

Harry remarked before the assassination, pointing to the Texas School Book Depository, in sight to him every working day since arriving in Dallas in 1948 : “Well, look at all those open windows. Wouldn’t that be a nice place to take a crack at the President?” By all accounts (of which there are few) Harry D. Holmes was an interesting figure. He described himself as a 'trained suspicioner' and spent most of the day of the assassination and the following days in his office or at the police station taking part in the interviews of Oswald. He provided crucial information on Oswalds Post Box and was the reason for the delay in Oswalds transfer that resulted in Ruby being in time to shoot Oswald. He commanded respect and authority within the FBI, DPD and the Warren Commission. I haven't been able to find out much about him, perhaps someone could supply further details? Suspicioner T7 Harry had his office on the fifth floor of the Terminal Annex building (also known as the Post Office) on the corner of Commerce and Houston streets, cattywampus to the grassy knoll, directly opposite the Texas School Book Depository in Dealey Plaza. He liked to describe the Annex as 'my building'. Through his windows he could see on the right 'Old Red', The Jail, the Records Building, Dal. Tex. and about 300 feet opposite, the sixth floor of the TSBD. Panning in an arc further left along Elm Street down to the Triple underpass then out across the western plains over towards Fort Worth. In the lore of the Wild West, as an agent in the spread of the tentacles of commerce throughout the European invasion, the Post Office is a central player. The oldest Law enforcement organisation in the US, the Postal Inspectors, has an almost legendary status. Indian territory, as Oklahoma was known, is nestled between the states of Texas and Kansas. This (thank's for the correction Tom) was confederate territory during the Civil War. And this is where Harry was born on the second of July, 1905. Little appears to be known about his early life, (in fact little is known about Harry, period) In Harrys mention of his father he describes him as a Goatherd*. By age 12 he was attending school in Kansas City. He graduated from high school and spent two years at William Jewell College at Liberty, Mo. and part of a third year in Kansas City. During his schooling he worked in a toy factory, a bakery, lighting lamps, and as a clerk in the post office. He continued working in the post office while studying to become a CPA, and also while studying dentistry. Then on to the second world war. In 1942 he was still working with the USPO where he now became a Postal Inspector. On the day before his 43'rd birthday in 1948, Harry arrived in Dallas where he remained with the Postal Inspection Service until his retirement in 1966. At some point he became an FBI informant codenamed "T7".* On November 22, 1963, he observed the assassination through binoculars from his office. Throughout the following days he was a significant figure in the investigation. He was with five or six other inspectors in his office. Through the morning he observed the preparations for the motorcade. He said, pointing out the TSBD, “Well, look at all those open windows. Wouldn’t that be a nice place to take a crack at the President?” During the assassination he was using a pair of 7.5x50 binoculars when "all of a sudden there was a CRACK… CRACK… CRACK!! All of us thought that somebody was throwing firecrackers. We just never dreamed that anybody would be shooting at him. Anyway, about the first or second crack, I wouldn’t know which, there was just a cone of blood and corruption that went up right in the back of his head and neck. I thought it was red paper on a firecracker. It looked like a firecracker lit up which looks like little bits of red paper as it goes up. But in reality it was his skull and brains and everything else that went up perhaps as much as six or eight feet. Just like that! Then just a minute later another crack, and everybody fell down like they were ducking firecrackers." *".......... Contrary to popular belief that Reagan was a nice guy, portrayed him as a snitch, an FBI informant in the late 1940's, feeding information to J. Edgar Hoover regarding alleged Communist activities in the Screen Actors Guild and other Hollywood organizations. ............. Summers :: FBI file 100-382196 contains the lowdown on a minor Hollywood actor—"6'1" tall, weight 175 lbs, blue eyes and brown hair"—named Ronald Reagan. The future president, who was spending as much time on union activity as on acting, was on the board of HICCASP [Hollywood Independent Citizens Committee of Arts, Sciences, and Professions], which the FBI considered a Communist front. His brother Neil, however, was spying on HICCASP meetings for the Bureau, and warned Ronald it would be wise to resign. Instead, Ronald acted as an FBI stool pigeon, too. ..........As the Bureau's Confidential Informant, code number T10, Reagan took to calling FBI agents to his house under cover of darkness, to tell of "cliques" in the Screen Actors Guild that "follow the Communist Party line." He reeled off the names of the actors and actresses in question and, in an appearance arranged at Edgar's personal suggestion, did so again during a secret appearance before the Un-American Activities Committee." Harry (Henry?) D. (?) Holmes was FBI informant T7. Does this mean he bacame an informant as early as 1942 when he became a Postal Inspector? Does that mean also that the Top Secret, illegal, mail opening operations by the FBI, CIA, and the USPO started much earlier than indicated by declassified documents which put the date as sometime in 1952? *He may have been just a plain Goatherd, but then again, taking into account Harry's penchant for wordplay he could be referring to the old Southern colloquialism 'Goats' used to describe the mainstay of segregation in post Civil war South, the southern Democrats.

There were indeed reports of shots from the Left. Watching through binoculars from his fifth floor office in the Terminal Annex building (or Post Office Building) opposite the Texas School Book Depository, was Harry D. Holmes, FBI informant T7. Harry had his office on the fifth floor of the Terminal Annex building (also known as the Post Office) on the corner of Commerce and Houston streets, cattywampus to the grassy knoll, directly opposite the Texas School Book Depository in Dealey Plaza. He liked to describe the Annex as 'my building'. Through his windows he could see on the right 'Old Red', The Jail, the Records Building, Dal. Tex. and about 300 feet opposite, the sixth floor of the TSBD. Panning in an arc further left along Elm Street down to the Triple underpass then out across the western plains over towards Fort Worth. In Harry's words: "....Right after the assassination I called the boss in Fort Worth, who already had the chief on the phone line in Washington because everything was chaos. He told me: “Well, you’re in charge of the investigation over there for whatever they need in the way of postal inspectors’ help or cooperation. The entire manpower that we have over there is at your disposal and we’ll send more if you need them.” "All the federal agencies would band together though they didn’t know what to do. Actually, for a while, they thought the shots came from my building, the Terminal Annex (post office). So immediately we interviewed everybody on the floors on that side of the building to see what they knew or had seen because there was a possibility that it came from the post office. Of course, that was cleared up in a hurry. I had the radio on all the time but there wasn’t much that I could do. I had called Captain Fritz and told him, “If there is anything I can do, why, I’m available and I’ve got plenty of men available......” Witnesses?? Harry D. Holmes, FBI informat T7, said : "Actually, for a while, they thought the shots came from my building, the Terminal Annex. So immediately we interviewed everybody on the floors on that side of the building to see what they knew or had seen because there was a possibility that it came from the post office. Of course, that was cleared up in a hurry." "they thought" ? (agencies. DPD? Witnesses?), "my building" "we interviewed" ? (not the 'agencies' ?) "...to see what they knew": us, our people in our building. So it seems the word of Harry was sufficient for the 'agencies' to accept that the shot did not come from the post office?? funny that.? Of course, they knew it came from the TSBD. Who the h..l was this Harry dude? It seems strange that he packed such an enormous untouchability. He brought Lee's Post Box to attention of DPD, he took part in Oswalds interviews, he delayed the transfer so that Oswald was still there when Ruby turned up, he took part in uncovering the trail to the Carcano. As postal inspector he would have been part of the CIA,FBI,Postal Inspection Service, illegal Top Secret mail opening operations. Had he seen the Back yard photos? Oswald would have been known to him and (through Harry, as T7) the FBI. He lied at WC about postal regulations, and also said he couldn't remember the names of people he associated with yet described himself (apart from calling himself a trained 'suspicioner' ( a play on the french word spy?)) as someone with a perfect memory? After the WC he seemed to vanish into thin air.* What did he look like? It's a puzzle worth looking at. *(of course as Pat has pointed out he didn't vanish But he did fade very much into the background)

some alternative views

Since I revived the Headshot theory topic, Lee's and my initial discussion has diverged distinctly to separate threads and I feel I would be doing him a disservice to continue posting my thread there. So here is this topic summarising the points I've been concentrating on. I acknowledge the responses to my posts by here trying to incorporate the answers to them in this summary. It's hard to get a good photo of Dealey Plaza from the time of the assassination. Usually all maps and photo's focus on the northern half (understandable). So far I've only found one grainy photo from the early 60's showing all of Dealey Plaza with all of the surrounding buildings. Earlier and Later seems to be easier, but on the later ones the emphasis is to the exclusion of the southern half. Well, I reckon there are some reasons to consider a shot from The South, or The Left Wing. (not Castro)

From another Topic:: ".......... Contrary to popular belief that Reagan was a nice guy, portrayed him as a snitch, an FBI informant in the late 1940's, feeding information to J. Edgar Hoover regarding alleged Communist activities in the Screen Actors Guild and other Hollywood organizations. ............. Summers :: FBI file 100-382196 contains the lowdown on a minor Hollywood actor—"6'1" tall, weight 175 lbs, blue eyes and brown hair"—named Ronald Reagan. The future president, who was spending as much time on union activity as on acting, was on the board of HICCASP [Hollywood Independent Citizens Committee of Arts, Sciences, and Professions], which the FBI considered a Communist front. His brother Neil, however, was spying on HICCASP meetings for the Bureau, and warned Ronald it would be wise to resign. Instead, Ronald acted as an FBI stool pigeon, too. ..........As the Bureau's Confidential Informant, code number T-10, Reagan took to calling FBI agents to his house under cover of darkness, to tell of "cliques" in the Screen Actors Guild that "follow the Communist Party line." He reeled off the names of the actors and actresses in question and, in an appearance arranged at Edgar's personal suggestion, did so again during a secret appearance before the Un-American Activities Committee." Harry (Henry?) D. (?) Holmes was FBI informant T7. Does this mean he bacame an informant as early as 1942 (when he became a Postal Inspector) or even earlier? Does that mean also that the Top Secret, illegal, mail opening operations by the FBI, CIA, and the USPO started much earlier than indicated by declassified documents which put the date as sometime in 1952? Further edit:: Mail (money orders? postboxes?) to/from Dallas was apparently handled in Kansas City until some time before '63, when that part of things moved to Washington. Harry worked as Postal Inspector in Kansas City prior to moving to Dallas in 1948.

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Porter Noah Post Russell Lee 1927 Post, Jr. Russell Lee 1958 Potter Roderick 1902 Potwin Lemuel Stoughton 1854 Powers Richard Hart Pratt George 1857 Pratt Julius Howard 1842 Pratt William Hall Brace 1864 Prentice John Rockefeller 1928 Prentice Samuel Oscar 1873 Preston Henry Kirk 1836 Preston James Marshall 1967 Preston John Louis 1958 Preston

Some more Boneheads: Abbe Frederick Randolph 1848 Abbott John S.C. Aberg, Jr. Donlan Vincent 1952 Abrams Peter Mark 1983 Acheson David Campion 1943 Acheson Dean (Disputed) (Scroll and Key Society?) Ackerman Stephen H. 1957 Acosta John Sidney 1921 Adams Charles Edward 1904 Adams Charles Hemmenway 1866 Adams Frederick Baldwin 1862 Adams Frederick Baldwin 1900 Adams, Jr. Frederick Baldwin 1932 Adams George Webster 1904 Adams Lewis G. 1920 Adams Mason Tyler 1899 Adams Stephen 1959 Afeiju Bernard I. 1967 Ahlbrandt, Jr. Roger S. 1963 Aiken Edwin Edgerton 1881 Aitchison William 1848 Albritton Paul Berem 1978 Aldis Owen Franklin 1874 Aldrich Malcolm Pratt 1922 Alexander Eben 1873 Alexander William DeWitt 1855 Alexander William Felix 1851 Ali Mehdi Raza 1965 Allen Arthur Dwight 1901 Allen Arthur Huntington 1873 Allen Calvin Durand 1913 Allen Charles E. 1958 Allen Daniel 1926 Allen Frederick Winthrop 1900 Allen Henry Elisha 1924 Allen John DeWitt Hamilton 1876 Allen Parker Breese 1919 Allen Walter 1863 Allen William Palmer 1880 Allen, Jr. Archibald J. 1945 Allen, Jr. Clarence Emir 1913 Alling, Jr. Charles Booth 1947 Allison Samuel Perkins 1847 Allison, Jr. Robert Seaman 1930 Ames Allan Wallace 1918 Ames Sullivan Dobb 1899 Amundson John Arnold 1880 Anderson Edwin Alexander 1835 Anderson Thomas Hill 1951 Andrews John Wolcott 1876 Andrews, Jr. Edward W. 1945 Andrews, Jr. John Wallingford 1870 Andrie Paul James 1984 Anthony Benjamin Harris 1886 Appel George Frederick Baer 1924 Ardrey Rushton L. 1925 Arms Charles Jesup 1863 Arnot John Hulett 1885 Arnot Matthias Hollenback 1856 Arras, Jr. Robert E. 1969 Asburn Frank Davis 1925 Ashe Victor Henderson 1967 Ashenfelter Alan Thompson 1975 Ashforth Albert Blackhurst 1929 Ashley Thomas William Ludlow 1948 Austen David E. 1931 Austin Roy Leslie 1968 Austin Samuel Monroe 1980 Avery Benjamin F. 1914 Avery Charles Hammond 1875 Aycrigg II William Anderson 1942 Ayeroff Frederick Charles 1974 Babcock Henry Harper 1853 Babst James Anthony 1971 Back Samuel H. 1962 Backus Joseph Willes 1846 Bacon Leonard Badger Paul Bradford 1911 Badger Walter Irving 1882 Bailey Philip Horton 1897 Baker Richard Wheeler 1913 Baldridge Howard Malcolm 1918 Baldwin George William 1853 Baldwin Henry DeForest 1885 Baldwin Roger Sherman 1847 Baldwin Sherman 1919 Baldwin Simeon Eren 1861 Ball David George 1960 Banks Howard D. 1956 Bannard Henry Clay 1869 Bannard Otto Tremont 1876 Baran Mark R. 1978 Barasch Alan Sidney 1973 Baratte Julius Adolphus 1843 Barge Richard Mason 1974 Baribault Richard P. 1949 Barker George Payson 1856 Barnes Pearce 1874 Barnes William Deluce 1907 Barnes William Henry Lienow 1855 Barney Danford Newton 1881 Barnum William Milo 1877 Barr, Jr. Richard J. 1936 Barres Herster B.D. 1932 Barry William Taylor Sullivan 1841 Bartlett John Knowlton 1838 Bartlett Philip Golden 1881 Bartholemy Alan Edmund 1942 Bartholomew Dana Treat 1928 Bass James Edward 1982 Basset II Barton Bradley 1949 Bassi Keith Alan 1978 Bates Emmert Warren 1932 Bates Samuel Henshaw 1833 Bayard Thomas Francis 1890 Bayne Hugh Aiken 1892 Bayne Thomas Levingston 1847 Bayne-Jones Stanhope 1910 Beach John Campell 1833 Beach John Sheldon 1839 Beane, Jr. Frank Eastman 1960 Beard Anson McCook 1895 Beard William Mossgrove 1896 Beaumont George Anson Oliver 1834 Becket G. Campbell 1923 Becket Peter Logan 1963 Beckley John Werle 1860 Beebe William 1873 Beers Henry Augustin 1869 Begg William Reynolds 1893 Beirne Christopher James 1840 Belin Gaspard d'Andelot 1939 Bell Richard Dobbs Spaight 1844 Bell William Tompkins 1942 Bellinger Alfred Rammond 1917 Bellis Jon Michael 1974 Bellis Tedric Lawrence 1973 Beman Henry DeWitt 1851 Bench Edward C. 1925 Bender Kenneth Arthur 1975 Benedict Theodore Hudson 1840 Bennetto John 1887 Benninghoff Harry Bryner 1954 Benoit, Jr. Charles Edward 1965 Bent Joseph Appleton 1865 Bentley Edward Manross 1880 Bentley Edward Warren 1850 Benton Joseph Augustine 1842 Berger, Jr. George Bart 1928 Berlin Gasper Berry Coburn Dewees 1868 Bertron Samuel Reading 1885 Best Geoffry D.C. 1964 Biddle Thomas Bradish 1839 Bigelow Albert 1852 Bigelow Walter Irving 1877 Biglow Lucius Horatio 1908 Biglow, Jr. Lucius Horatio 1948 Bingham Charles Tiffany 1928 Bingham Egert Byron 1863 Bingham Jonathan Brewster 1936 Birgen Robert Richards 1968 Bisaro Larry R. 1974 Bishop Noah 1833 Bissel Arthur Douglas 1867 Bissel Wilson Shannon 1869 Bissell George Thomas 1961 Bissell William Truesdale 1925 Bissell, Jr. Richard M. Blackman Charles Seymour 1857 Blackman Samuel Curtis 1854 Blaine Walker 1876 Blair Edwin Foster 1924 Blair James Grant 1925 Blair William McCormick 1907 Blake Dexter B. 1937 Blake Edward Foster 1858 Blake Eli Whitney 1857 Blake Henry T. 1848 Blake Henry Taylor 1848 Blake, Jr. Gilman Dorr 1945 Blakely Marvin 1977 Blakeslee Henry Clay 1852 Blanchard Jerred Gurley 1939 Blattner Robert William 1976 Bliss Charles Miller 1852 Bliss Robert 1850 Bliss William Root 1850 Blodgett George Reddington 1884 Blue Linden S. 1958 Boasberg III James Emanuel 1956 Bockrath, Jr. Richard C. 1961 Bockstoce John R. 1966 Bodman William Camp 1959 Boies Charles Alred 1860 Boltwood Edward 1860 Boltwood Edward 1892 Boltwood Thomas Kast 1864 Booth Samuel Albert 1884 Booth Wilbur Franklin 1884 Borden Matthew Chaloner Durfee 1864 Boren David Lyle 1963 Bottum Elisha Slocum 1876 Boulos (Bouliaratis) William M. 1947 Bouscaren Michael Frederic 1969 Bowers Lloyd Wheaton 1879 Bowle, Jr. William Carter 1961 Bowles Henry Thornton 1899 Bowles John Eliot 1935 Bowman Ralph David 1957 Boyd Francis T. 1912 Boyden Henry Paine 1864 Bradford Amory Howe 1934 Bradford Arthur Howe 1905 Bradford Timothy McFall 1967 Bradley Charles Harvey 1921 Brand James 1866 Brandegee Augustus 1849 Brandegee Frank Bosworth 1885 Brandt John Henry 1962 Breed Edward Andrews 1844 Breen J. Gerald 1950 Bremmer Samuel Kimball 1886 Breslau Jonathan 1982 Brewster Benjamin 1882 Brewster Chauncey Bunce 1868 Brewster Walter Rice 1921 Brewster IV James Henry 1962 Brickell James Noaille 1845 Bridgman John Cloyse 1885 Brinsmade Horatio Walsh 1851 Brinton Daniel Garrison 1858 Brisrin John Ball 1846 Bristol Louis Henry 1859 Brodhead Henry 1859 Bronson David Bennet 1947 Bronson James Davis 1926 Brooke Frederick Hiester 1899 Brooke George Clymer 1897 Brooke, Jr. Frederick H. 1937 Brooks Henry Stanford 1885 Brooks James Wilton 1875 Brooks John Edward 1865 Brooks Peter Moody 1983 Brooks Tristam Anthony 1982 Brooks Walter 1877 Brown Alexander 1896 Brown Alexander Lardner 1869 Brown Christopher Walworth 1968 Brown George Clifford 1966 Brown Henry Armitt 1865 Brown Hubert Sanford 1861 Brown Jamot 1899 Brown John Mason 1856 Brown Joseph Venen 1842 Brown Robert Nelson 1979 Brown Samuel Taylor Glover 1944 Brown Walter Henderson 1945 Brown William Scott 1970 Brubaker James Robert 1977 Brubaker John Kim 1976 Bruce Donald 1906 Bryan James Taylor 1971 Bryan, Jr. L. Thomas 1955 Buchanan Thomas Walter 1889 Buck III Charles Henry 1969 Buckland Joseph Payson 1857 Buckley Christopher Taylor 1975 Buckley Fercus Reid 1952 Buckley James Lane 1944 Buckley, Jr. William Frank 1950 Buckner Mortimer Norton 1895 Bulkey Jonathan Ogden 1923 Bulkey Tuzar 1865 Bull Cornelius Wade 1863 Bullock Stanton B. 1981 Bumstead Nathaniel Willis 1855 Bundy Frederick McGeorge 1921 Bundy Harvey Hollister 1909 Bundy Hollister 1909 Bundy McGeorge 1940 Bundy William Putman 1939 Bunnell Phil W. 1927 Burch Robert Boyd 1909 Burke III James Eugene 1975 Burke, Jr. Charles Clinton 1937 Burkus Gregory James 1982 Burnham Curtis Field 1840 Burpee Charles Winslow 1883 Burpee Lucien Francis 1879 Burr William Shedden 1834 Burr II Charles B. 1962 Burrell Joseph Dunn 1881 Buritt Edwin Authur 1915 Buritt John Bush Derek C. 1967 Bush George Herbert Walker 1948 Bush George Walker 1968 Bush James S. 1922 Bush Jonathan J. 1953 Bush Prescott Sheldon 1917 Bushnell Samuel Clarke 1874 Bushnell William Benedick 1865 Butler Francis Eugene 1857 Butler John Haskell 1863 Butterworth Frank Seiler 1895 Buttles Albert Barnes 1842 Cable Benjamin Stickney 1895 Caldwell Samuel Smith 1933 Calhoun Governeur 1891 Callahan Hugh Andrew 1899 Came Charles Green 1849 Camp Arthur Goodwin 1907 Camp Clinton 1850 Camp Stuart Brown 1900 Camp Walter 1880 Campbell Alan Barnette 1919 Campbell Charles Soutter 1909 Campbell Gavin Elliott 1982 Campbell James 1849 Campbell James Alexander 1882 Campbell Kimberly C. 1981 Campbell Treat 1878 Campbell William Harvey Wilson 1856 Cangelosi Russell Joseph 1972 Capozzalo Douglas Daniel 1976 Capron Paul 1960 Capron Samuel Mills 1853 Carey John 1945 Carlin, Jr. William John Carr Carlisle James Mandeville 1901 Carlsen Ray Allen 1957 Carlsson Mats Erik 1981 Carpenter George Boone 1902 Carpenter Robert John 1859 Carter Charles Francis 1878 Carter Edwin Osgood 1837 Carter Frederic Dewhurst 1919 Carter Lyon 1915 Carter Walter Frederick 1895 Case George Bowen 1894 Case, Jr. Philip Benham 1970 Caskey Taliaferro Franklin 1865 Casscells Christopher Dyson 1976 Cassel John A. 1958 Caukins, Jr. George Peck 1943 Caulkins John Erwin 1948 Cerveris Michael Ernest 1983 Chadwick George Brewster 1903 Chafee John Hubbard 1947 Chamberlain Daniel Henry 1862 Chamberlain Leander Trowbridge 1863 Chamberlain Robert Linton 1861 Chambers William Lyon 1843 Chandler William Henry 1839 Chandrasekhar Ashok Jai Chapin Charles Frederick 1877 Chapin Lebeus C. Charney Charles Meigs 1865 Chase Henry 1850 Chauvenet William 1840 Cheney Clifford Dudley 1898 Cheney Frank Dexter 1900 Cheney Howell 1892 Cheney Philip 1901 Cheney Ronald Lawton 1958 Cheney Russell 1904 Cheney Thomas Langdon 1901 Cheney Ward 1896 Cheney, Jr. Knight Dexter 1892 Chester Carl Thurston 1875 Chibundu Maxwell O. 1980 Child Calvin G. Child Linus Mason 1855 Childs Starling Winston 1976 Chimenti Norman Victor 1962 Chin Mnu Chittenden George Hastings 1939 Choa Christopher James 1981 Chouteau Rene Auguste 1942 Christian Henry Hall 1901 Cirie John A. 1964 Clark Albert Barnes 1864 Clark Alexander Ray 1895 Clark Avery Artison 1909 Clark Charles Hopkins 1871 Clark Douglas Wells 1972 Clark Gerald Holland 1965 Clark Harold Terry 1903 Clark J. Bruce 1978 Clark Stephen Edward 1965 Clark Thomas W. 1961 Clark William Judkins 1948 Clark, Jr. R. Inslee 1957 Clarke Thomas Slidell 1875 Clarke William Barker 1849 Claude, Jr. Abram 1952 Clay Alexander Stephens 1964 Clay Cassius Marcellus 1918 Clay Green 1859 Clay Jesse Loring 1963 Clay Lowell Melcher 1939 Clay Timothy J. 1965 Clucas Lowell Melcher 1939 Cobb Henry Nitche 1855 Cochran Thomas 1904 Cochran Thomas 1894 Coe Edward Benton 1862 Coe Robert Elmer 1872 Coffin Edmund 1866 Coffin Henry Sloan 1897 Coffin James 1868 Coffin, Jr. William Sloan 1949 Coffing Churchill 1834 Coggins Daniel Seton 1964 Cogswell John M. 1961 Cohen Kenneth Saul 1968 Cohen Robert Lewis 1974 Coit Joshua 1853 Coit William 1837 Coke, Jr. Henry C. 1926 Cole Hamilton 1866 Coleman John Caldwell 1881 Colgate Henry Auchincloss 1913 Collier Samuel (Sam) Carnes 1935 Collin Frederick 1871 Collin William Welch 1877 Colt LeBaron Bradford 1868 Colton Henry Martin 1848 Colton Willis Strong 1850 Condit Albert Pierson 1850 Condit Charles 1848 Condit Stephen 1856 Connelly, Jr. William James 1948 Connick Andrew Jackson 1952 Connick Louis 1945 Connor Lemuel Parker 1845 Connor William Gustine 1845 Connors David Michael 1974 Connors James Joseph 1959 Converse George Sherman 1850 Conway, Jr. Joseph Leo 1981 Cook Robert Johnston 1876 Cook II George 1945 Cook III George 1948 Cooke Eldridge Clinton 1877 Cooke Francis Judd 1933 Cooke James Barclay 1893 Cooke John Parick 1959 Cooke Robert Barbour 1936 Cooke Walter Evans 1895 Cooley Harlan Ward 1888 Coombs Orde Musgrave 1965 Coon John 1847 Cooper Carnell 1977 Cooper Henry Sage Fenimore 1917 Cooper Jacob 1852 Cooper John Sherman 1923 Cooper William Frierson 1838 Corbin William Herbert 1889 Corey Alan Lyle 1911 Corey III Alan Lyle 1965 Cornell Thomas Hilary 1915 Corning Erastus 1903 Cornish, Jr. Percy Gillette 1914 Cortelyou, Jr. George Bruce 1913 Corwin Robert Nelson 1887 Corwith John White 1890 Cosgrove Thomas Francis 1969 Costikyan Grange K. 1929 Cowdry Rex William 1968 Cowles Alfred 1913 Cowles Alfred 1886 Cowles William Hutchinson 1887 Cowles William Sheffield 1921 Cowles III Alfred 1913 Cox John Joughin 1891 Coxe Alexander Brown 1887 Coy Edward Harris 1910 Coy Sherman Lockwood 1901 Crampton Rufus Cowles 1851 Crane, Jr. Winthrop Murray 1904 Crapo Stanford Tappan 1886 Crapo William Wallace 1852 Crawley Brian Scott 1964 Creoxton John T. Cressler Alfred Miller 1902 Crile, Jr. George 1929 Crosby Albert Hastings 1922 Crosby Henry Stetson 1926 Crosby John 1890 Crosby, Jr. Benjamin Lewis 1892 Cross Alan W. 1966 Cross John Walter 1900 Cross Richard James 1937 Cross Walter Snell 1904 Cross, Jr. William R. 1941 Cross William Redmond 1896 Croxton John Thomas 1857 Cruikshank, Jr. Paul Fessenden 1952 Crump John 1833 Csar Michael F. 1972 Cunningham Hugh Terry 1934 Cunningham Oliver Baty 1917 Curtin Francis Clare 1935 Curtis George Louis 1878 Cushing Charles Cyprian Strong 1902 Cushing William Lee 1872 Cushman Charles W. 1957 Cushman Isaac LaFayette 1845 Cushman, Jr. Lt. Gen. Robert E. 1958 Cutler Benjamin Crawford 1926 Cutler Carroll 1854 D'Avanzo Louis A. 1956 Daggett Oliver Ellsworth Dahl George 1908 Dalby Michael Thomas 1966 Dale, Jr. Edwin Lyon 1945 Daly Frederick Joseph 1911 Dana William Buck 1851 Dana James Dwight Daniels Forest Leonard 1907 Daniels John H. 1943 Daniels Joseph Leonard 1860 Daniels Rensselaer Wilkinson 1873 Daniels John Thomas Leonard 1914 Danielson Richard Ely 1907 Darling Arthur Burr 1916 Darling Thomas 1836 Davenport Bradfute Warwick 1938 Davenport George Leovy 1980 Davenport John A. 1926 Davenport Russell Wheeler 1923 Davenport Stephen Rintoul 1915 Davies Philip Turner 1976 Davies Thomas Frederick 1853 Davies Thomas Frederick 1894 Davis Benjamin 1895 Davis Benjamin Franklin 1833 Davis Clinton Wildes 1911 Davis John 1835 Davis Lowndes Henry 1860 Davis Richard Marden 1933 Davis Robert Stewart 1860 Davis Walter Goodwin 1908 Davis II Horace Webber 1936 Davison Daniel Pomeroy 1949 Davison Endicott Peabody 1945 Davison Frederick Trubee 1918 Davison Henry Pomeroy 1920 Dawes Chester Mitchell 1876 Day Arthur Pomeroy 1890 Day Clive 1892 Day Dwight Huntington 1899 Day Huntington T. 1923 Day John Calvin 1857 Day Melville Cox 1862 Day Robert Webster 1875 Day Sherwood Sunderland 1911 Day Thomas Mills 1837 Day Thomas Mills 1886 Day William Edwards 1902 Day Henry N Deans Robert Barr 1918 Dechert Henry Martyn 1850 Decker, Jr. Edmund Lockwood 1929 DeForest Stephen Elliott 1955 Demaree II Frank Edward 1969 Deming Charles Clerc 1872 Deming Henry Champion 1872 Deming Henry Champion 1836 Deming Lawrence Clerc 1883 Dempsey Andrew Squire 1956 Dempsey John Bourne 1911 Dempsey, Jr. James Howard 1938 Denegre Thomas Bayne 1915 DeNeufville John Phillip 1961 Denison Lindsay 1895 Dennis Frederic Shepard 1872 Denny Thomas 1854 Denslow Herbert McKenzie 1873 Dent Henry Hatch 1836 Depew Canson Goodyear 1919 Depew Chauncey Mitchell 1856 DeSa Pompeo Ascenco 1841 DeSibour Jules Henri 1896 DeSilver Albert 1910 Desjardins Peter Earl 1965 Devlin Michael William 1982 Devor, Jr Donald S. 1941 DeVore Mark Samuel 1980 Dexter Franklin Bowditch 1861 Dexter Morton 1867 Diamond Peter C. 1974 Dickinson Arthur 1856 Diller John Cabot 1924 Dilworth George Toby 1980 Dilworth Joseph Richardson 1938 Dimock Henry Farnam 1863 Dines Tyson 1908 Dixon Theodore Polehemus 1907 Dixon William Palmer 1868 Doane John Wesley 1891 Dodd Albert 1838 Dodge Francis Talmage 1904 Dodge Philip Lyndon 1907 Dodge Washington 1929 Dominick David DeWitt 1960 Dominick Gayer Gardner 1909 Donaldson William Henry 1953 Donnelley Gaylord 1931 Donnelley Reuben H. 1889 Donnelley Richard Robert 1889 Donnelley Thomas Elliott 1889 Doolittle Duncan Hunter 1943 Douglas Malcolm 1900 Douglass Willard Robinson 1887 Dousman Louis deVierville 1906 Dowling Brian J. 1969 Downing III Earl S. 1970 Doyle, Jr. Thomas James 1974 Drain Richard Dale 1943 Draper Arthur Joy 1937 Draper III William H. 1950 Dreisbach John Martin 1903 DuBois John Jay 1867 Dunham George Elliott 1859 Dunham, Jr. Lawrence Boardman 1938 Dunn George J. 1957 Dunning Rev. Albert Elijah 1867 Dunwody James Bulloch 1836 Durfee, Jr. C. Gibson 1956 Durham II Edwin A. 1953 Duryee Samuel Sloan 1917 Dutton Samuel W.S. Dwight Timothy 1849 Dwight Winthrop Edwards 1893 Dyess Arthur Delma 1939 Eakin Emmet Alexander 1856 Eakin William Spencer 1846 Eames Benjamin Tucker 1843 Eaton Daniel C. Early Hobart Evans 1945 Eaton Samuel Lewis 1877 Eaton Sherburne Blake 1862 Ecklund John E. 1938 Eddy Maxon Hunter 1929 Eden John W. 1951 Edozien Anthony O. 1979 Edwards Alfred Lewis 1857 Edwards George Benjamin 1878 Edwards Newton 1842 Edwards Richard Henry 1901 Eels John Shepard 1901 Eichelberger Martin Smyser 1858 Eisenberg Bruce Alan 1974 Eisler Colin Tobias 1952 Ekfelt Richard (Dick) Henry 1971 Elder Samuel James 1873 Eldridge Charles St. John 1839 Elebash Shehand Daniel 1944 Elliot Henry Rutherford 1871 Elliot William Horace 1844 Ellis Garrison McClintock Noel 1951 Ellis Harland Montgomery 1930 Ellis Raymond Walleser 1930 Ellis, Jr. Alexander 1944 Ellis, Jr. F. Henry 1941 Ellis, Jr. G. Corson 1951 Ellsworth John Stoughton 1905 Elwell, Jr. Francis Bolton 1945 Ely Grosvenor 1906 Ely Richard T. Embersits John Frank 1958 Emerson Alfred 1834 Emerson Christy Payne 1953 Emerson Joseph 1841 Emerson Samuel 1848 English, Jr. William Deshay 1975 Eno John Chester 1869 Eno Wiliam Phelps 1882 Ercklentz Alexander Tonio 1959 Erickson Thomas Franklin 1940 Ernst Frederick Vincent 1960 Erskine, Jr. Albert DeW. 1930 Esselstyn Erik Canfield 1959 Esselstyn, Jr. Caldwell Blakesman 1956 Estill Joe Garner 1891 Esty Constantine Canaris 1845 Etra Donald 1968 Eustis William Tappan 1841 Evans Evan Wilhelm 1851 Evans Peter Seelye 1972 Evans T. Boyd 1954 Evarts Maxwell 1884 Evarts Sherman 1881 Evarts William Maxwell 1837 Ewell John Lewis 1865 Ewing Sherman 1924 Eyre Lawrence L. 1970 Farnam Charles Henry 1868 Farnam Henry Walcott 1874 Farnam John Dorrance 1890 Farnam William Whitman 1866 Farrar John Chipman 1917 Farris Robert P. Faulkner Endress 1839 Fearey Morton Lazell 1898 Fehr Gerald F. 1955 Feinerman James Vincent 1971 Felder John Henry 1844 Fenn William Henry 1854 Ferguson Alfred Ludlow 1902 Ferguson James Lord 1944 Ferguson, Jr. Alfred L. 1926 Ferry Orris Sanford 1844 Fetner Philip Jay 1965 Few Smith William 1844 Field David Irvine 1841 Field John Warner 1937 Finch Francis Miles 1849 Fincke Clarence Mann 1897 Finley John George Gilpin 1947 Finney C. Roger 1973 Finney Graham Stanley 1952 Finney John Warren 1945 Fischer Louis Christopher 1856 Fish Stuyvesant 1905 Fisher Irving 1888 Fisher Samuel Herbert 1889 Fisher Scott B. 1972 Fisher George Park Fishwick Dwight Brown 1928 Fisk Samuel Augustus 1844 Fisk Stuart Wilkins 1840 Fitch George Hopper 1932 Fitch James 1847 Flagg Wilbur Wells 1873 Flanders Henry Richmond 1885 Fleming Andrew T. 1980 Fleming William Stuart 1838 Fletcher Alexander Charles 1933 Flynn Alexander Rex 1906 Folsom Charles Seward 1883 Foote Charles Seward 1883 Foote Harry Ward 1866 Foote Joseph Forward 1850 Foote Thaddeus 1844 Ford George Tod 1865 Ford William 1942 Fore John Arthur 1979 Fort Donald Kenneth 1976 Fortgang Jeffrey 1971 Fortunato S. Joseph 1954 Foster David John 1967 Foster Dwight 1848 Foster Eleazar Kingsbury 1834 Foster George Forris 1879 Foster John Pierrepont 1869 Foster Joseph Taylor 1908 Foster Maxwell E. 1923 Foster Reginald 1884 Foster Roger 1878 Fowler Charles Newell 1876 Fowler Horace Webster 1863 Fowler William 1860 Fox Joseph Carrere 1938 Franchot Charles Pascal 1910 Francis Samuel Hopkins 1964 Frank Clinton E. 1938 Frank III Charles Augustus 1963 Frank, Jr. Victor H. 1950 Frankelm Scott David Franklin Richard David 1983 Fredericks Joel Richard 1977 Freeman Henry Varnum 1869 French Asa Palmer 1882 French Robert Dudley 1910 Friedland Johnathan David 1970 Fritzche Peter B. 1957 Frost Elihu Brintnal 1883 Frost, Jr. Albert Carl 1922 Fuller Henry W. 1969 Fuller Philo Carroll 1881 Fuller Stanley Evert 1935 Fuller William Henry 1861 Fulton Robert Brank 1932 Furbish Edward Brown 1860 Gachel Charles Nicholas 1843 Gage Charles Stafford 1925 Gaillard Edward McCrady 1919 Gaillard, Jr. Samuel Gourdin 1916 Gaines Edwin Frank 1975 Gaines Milton J. 1956 Galbraith Evan Griffith 1950 Gale Frederick Scott 1983 Gallaudet Edson Fessenden 1893 Gallaudet Herbert Draper 1898 Gallico III G. Gregory 1968 Galvin Michael Gerard 1971 Gammell Arthur Amory 1911 Gardner Robert Abbe 1912 Garfield Newell 1918 Garnsey Walter Wood 1930 Garnsey William Herrick 1960 Garnsey William Smith 1933 Garnsey, Jr. Walter W. 1967 Garrison Elisha Ely 1897 Garvey John Joseph 1929 Gates Artemis L. 1918 Gates Edward Raymond 1976 Gerard Sumner 1897 Gibbs Josiah Willard Gibson, Jr. Richard Channing 1976 Giegengack, Jr. Robert F. 1960 Gifford Richard C. 1954 Gile Clement D. 1939 Gile Clement Moses 1914 Gile Lawrence Maclester 1978 Gill B. 1936 Gill Brendan 1963 Gill Charles Otis 1889 Gill George Metcalf 1888 Gill Michael Gates 1963 Gillespie Kenrick S. 1929 Gillespie, Jr.

That's great James. Here are those faces plus paraphernalia blown up.

From an old 'Pure Speculation' post :: "Thirty members of the Dallas Bonehead Club flew to several Mexican cities in two planes last week as guests of D. Harold Byrd*. Standing in the back row, left to right, are Myron Everts, D. Harold Byrd and Dr. Gordon Maddox. Standing, front row, left to right, are M. M. Gardner, Neal Lyons, G. W. Wagner, E. J. Koenig, Dr. C. V. White, J. Howard Payne, Capt. C. W. B. Long and L. M. Napier. Seated in the front is H. L. (Duke) DuLany." - February 1, 1948, Dallas Daily Times Herald *owner of TSBD. There seems to have been a few boneheads in dallas, wonder who the other members were. I think I might have figured out* who the boneheads were. When searching for connection of Shaw with Mexico I came across a reference to the Yale Skull & Bones fraternity (Bush) that called its members 'Boneheads'. If that's correct then the other Dallas Boneheads should be identifiable. Other Boneheads may have been Rockefellers, the Brothers Dulles and the Dulles' nephew, Cardinal Francis, Spelly? Harry Luce, (his wife Clare described as girlfriend of Charles Willoughby). Apparently during a party at Clare's house in Phoenix, everyone cheered when the news of the Dallas shooting was announced. anyway, the Boneheads liked to spend time in Mexico. EDIT: update: Gary corrected me on this one some time ago on another thread... Apparently the boneheads of Dallas were not necessarily Bonesmen. While 'boneheads' is indeed used by skull and boners, and they do seem to with their rituals carry on like pranksters, though on a national/global scale (more like sociopaths), in the Dallas case it seems that the boneheads were more like bored cheeky old fogeys, with perhaps too much time on their hands, though with their 'turning things on its head' kind of philosophy (starting meetings by closing them and so on) they did make some interesting points about perception. (Images added)

More:: Pat I also agree there was a sound from the west of the TSBD. I'm suggesting that the event that caused this sound may not have been from there. Much has already been said by Al and others with regards to how people hear sounds that come close upon each other. There is also a factor I haven't seen mentioned here yet with regards to how the human ear differentiates sound. I can't remember the exact words (I'll hunt it down though and post later) but sound diminishes in volume at a greater rate than the distance from the sound origin. Also as decibels drop by a certain amount the ear perceives this drop as greater than instruments would measure the drop at. Also to consider is the tendency of people to look over their right shoulder to look for the location of a sound that comes from behind them, so perhaps a lot of the people who heard this sound behind them and looked over their right shoulder (and saw others do the same) and later located it as coming from the grassy knoll actually were responding to a sound coming from closer to the TSBD as Lee is pointing out. There is a kind of herd mentality to consider here. What was the nature of these tests. Did the participants know what to expect? Were conditions duplicated re crowd noise and emotiuonal content? Were the participants of the tests of the same hearing, age, experience etc. as the witnesses? Were shot sounds generated from the post office offices, roof? As far as our pal Harry goes, of course he didn't disappear. He seemed to though in relation to his prominent role at the time of the investigation. Many people with less significant roles came to the front and have stayed there. That's the point I was trying to make. I'll post a more detailed history of what I can find of Harry, which isn't much. I wonder if James or someone has a photo of Harry? He on the one hand belittled the FBI and on the other was an informant. Why? His description of the events as Hill reached the limo seemed aimed at making Jackie appear hysterical, yet film the film shows her considering circumstances behaving rationally. He went wandering around the plaza at one point looking for something. He picked up a piece of skull and dropped it again? Dentists study cadavers, surely he would have recognised a body part and realised its significance. (Was he really looking for a bullet?) It'd be interesting to have a photo of him to compare to others in the plaza who picked up things.

I've been trying to make sense of the rifle. It's an easy matter to build a 3d model of a DPD photo of the rifle and turn it to get the resultant alteration of dimensions to match that of the backyard photos. But the scope is another matter. If the rifle is right the scope is wrong. Can anyone direct to a earliest photo showing the rifle with scope fitted as I think the one I'm using has had the scope altered/shifted.

Tom,I may have missed at some point, but I can't find any info anywhere about how tall Abraham Zapruder was. Do you have this info? JohnD

similarly in this photo from Robin and Lee, the speed of the limo. calculated from the differential blur length is about 3.2 mph. IF the actual speed of the limousine was known at this point, which it may well be, then a reverse calculation would theoretically give the time that the shutter was open on the camera, then a check with the rated shutter speed which also may be known could help on confirming/refining/debunking my approach to calculating limo. (or any object)speed in a photo. Any info on these data appreciated. edit::here's the photo

Pat I also agree there was a sound from the west of the TSBD. I'm suggesting that the event that caused this sound may not have been from there. Much has already been said by Al and others with regards to how people hear sounds that come close upon each other. There is also a factor I haven't seen mentioned here yet with regards to how the human ear differentiates sound. I can't remember the exact words (I'll hunt it down though and post later) but sound diminishes in volume at a greater rate than the distance from the sound origin. Also as decibels drop by a certain amount the ear perceives this drop as greater than instruments would measure the drop at. Also to consider is the tendency of people to look over their right shoulder to look for the location of a sound that comes from behind them, so perhaps a lot of the people who heard this sound behind them and looked over their right shoulder (and saw others do the same) and later located it as coming from the grassy knoll actually were responding to a sound coming from closer to the TSBD as Lee is pointing out. There is a kind of herd mentality to consider here. As far as our pal Harry goes, of course he didn't disappear. He seemed to in relation to his prominent role at the time of the investigation. Many people with less significant roles came to the front and have stayed there. That's the point I was trying to make. I'll post a more detailed history of what I can find of Harry, which isn't much. I wonder if James or someone has a photo of him?

if in the photo provided by Robin and Lee the shutter speed is assumed to be 1/35 seconds then the speed of the limousine at this point would be approximately 3.07 mph. however as the shutter speed of this camera is not known all this shows is that it may really be possible to derive the speed in any photo with blurred components using a simple formula and simple data re dimension and shutterspeed.

Since I started to hint on this scenario I've had a considerable rise in high rating probes blocked by firewall. The proportion of untraceable ones has increased. Some unusual locations that repeat themselves are argentina, brazil, germany and new orleans. On one occasion it got so bad the firewalls demand on CPU time froze the computer entirely. Could other members please comment on their experiences to help me see if my experience is unusual. I know there are lots of random probing going on all the time and it may be just all a coincidence.