Cliff Varnell

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No, Pat, the bullet holes in the clothes are at least two inches lower. This distinction is crucial. The authenticated cervical x-ray shows damage which could only have been caused by the throat entrance shot. You want to attribute the damage at T1 to the back shot, an egregious obfuscation. A fact established in 1966 when Gaeton Fonzi rubbed the clothing defects in Arlen Specter’s face.

Who cares about the SBT? The issue is the nature of the throat and back wounds and what those may tell us about the perps. They were throwing crap on the wall to see what would stick. The Rydberg drawing has a location in the neck, and the final autopsy report posits 2 different back wound locations. Somehow you think this garbage outweighs the clothing evidence, the contemporaneous written accounts of witnesses in position of authority, the properly prepared medical evidence, and consensus witness statements.

Your defense of the Fox 5 autopsy photo is destroyed every time I set you straight.

The keys to effective promotion are simplicity and repetition. Republicans and Lone Nut Advocates excel at this. Democrats and JFKA Conspiracy Advocates are terrible at marketing superior positions, the messaging all over the map.

Consensus regarding the JFK head wound(s) doesn’t seem possible. Was he hit in the head once, twice, thrice? Consensus on the T3 back wound and throat entrance wound, however, would upend the Answer the Question of Conspiracy Parlor Game, and bring down the JFKA False Mystery Industry. Pointing at Salandria and Fonzi and saying, “What they said,” isn’t enough to write books and speeches about. Where’s the fun in that?

Consensus regarding the JFK head wound(s) doesn’t seem possible. Was he hit once, twice, thrice? Consensus on the T3 back wound and throat entrance wound, however, would upend the Answer the Question of Conspiracy Parlor Game, and bring down the JFKA False Mystery Industry. Pointing at Salandria and Fonzi and saying, “What they said,” isn’t enough to write books and speeches about. Where’s the fun in that?

Op Mock was more active in the last Century than these days — and belief in the LN was in the teens back then. Belief in conspiracy dropped 20% from 2000 to 2013. Can’t blame that on Op Mock, which was never effective in the first place. Can’t pin it on age — in the current Gallup 18 - 34 has the strongest belief in conspiracy. In this Century, what did post graduate types likely see whenever they researched the JFKA on the ‘Net? Jim DiEugenio et al bickering with David Von Pein et al over 500 rabbit holes, Von Pein et al selling a simple “Oswald Acted Alone” while DiEugenio et al pitched “Super Human Complexity”. And y’all still at it...

If the letter was never sent, what’s the big deal it’s on White House stationary?

Larry, Plumlee’s 2010 EF posts on his “abort team” flight to Dallas don’t mention Hunt. Any idea when that became part of his story?

John Roselli, not Hunt. Tosh: “We took-off before day break on November 21, 1963 expecting to arrive in Tampa about sunup. We were to pick up other personal at Tampa. One of these people was John Roselli, whom I knew.”

It was Johnny Roselli he flew in with his mis-informed “abort team.”

Not a book I’d recommend tho many do: Josiah Thompson — Six Seconds in Dallas

Fiction category: Don Delillo — Libra James Ellroy — American Tabloid

Vincent Salandria — False Mystery E. Martin Schotz — History Will Not Absolve Us

Savvy it is! I hope Mr. Bleau cites the clothing evidence at his Lancer presentation.

Excellent video! Micah, I bailed out on that website several years ago. I used to invite people to turn their head to the right, glance down at the top of their right shoulder, raise and wave their right arm, observe the shirt fabric INDENT. With parsimony as my North Star, now I invite people to observe the visible shirt collar behind JFK’s neck in Dealey Plaza photos. JFK’s jacket collar was in a normal position, counterfeiting the claim the shirt and jacket were severely bunched up as required by the SBT.

I’d enjoy buying my friend Cory lunch but Mr. Bleau (or somebody!) has to cite the clothing evidence at a conference or event commemorating the 60th.

I stand corrected.

Absolutely. I contribute every fund drive. I have some technical issues plaguing me at the moment, but I'll get through it...

Excellent! I’ll contribute $100 to the Ed Forum! Wonderful news. I don’t like to be cynical all the time around here. Good show!

Apparently not. Not a word about the actual physical evidence. No wonder DiEugenio likes this guy.

From Episode 15: <quote on> So far we’ve talked about the President’s throat wound, and back — or back of the neck wound depending on your JFK assassination worldview. </q> Depending on your worldview? The bullet holes in JFK’s clothes are 4 inches below the bottom of the collars. Dealey Plaza photos/films show a normal amount of shirt collar visible behind his neck. The jacket collar was, therefore, in a normal position resting at the base of his neck, or immediately above it. What kind of “worldview” posits 3 inches of shirt and 3 inches of jacket elevating above a wound at the back of the neck without pushing up on the collar at the base of the neck? Does Crumpton ever address this issue?

Michael Hogan

I’ll take it as a No. Jim DiEugenio wrote 6 hours of Oliver Stone documentary and never mentioned the physical evidence, the bullet defects in JFK’s clothes. He wrote a eulogy for Vincent Salandria and never mentioned Salandria’s long-time emphasis on the clothing evidence. So of course the evidence that choked up Arlen Specter doesn’t rank as a ”Chokehold.” Academic Malpractice. Never bring troubling questions to a gun fight.