Wim Dankbaar

John, could you please tell me how the chapter is called? Is it titled "The Cover up"? Wim

Wim, do you not read these responses .... "There can only be one cause for the head and the shoulders to be driven in opposite directions at the same time and that is by one missile striking the top of an already tilted skull and shedding its energy down the trunk of the body. This observation I made was taken to experts by then 20 year veteran Al Carrier and substantiated. Bill Miller Bill, I am sorry, but this is an erroneous assumption. We all agree that the force of the front bullet drove the head back and to the left. Such a bullet cannot first tilt the head forward and then decide to drive it backwards. That is against the law of physics and kinetics. Besides, the head IS ALREADY tilted forward when the front bullet strikes the temple. That forward tilt/snap is caused by a bullet from behind, striking the head a fraction earlier (within 1 Zapruder frame). That JFK's shoulders seem to go in the opposite direction (backwards) is logical, as you would get an opposite force at the base of the neck, the pivot point where the head is fixed to the body, thus the shoulders. Think of a stick that's hanging vertically in the air on a rope. If you hit the top of the stick, which direction is the bottom of the stick going to go? The opposite direction, right? Likewise, if you stick a pole in the lawn vertically and then push it down horizontally at the the top, the bottom of the pole will damage your lawn in the opposite direction of where you are pushing the top of the stick. That's because the pole is applying its reactional force in that direction. Wim

Bill, then please explain to us what caused the forward headsnap, other than the impact from a bullet in the head from behind? Wim

Duncan you should inlude frame 342 and 343 Wim

Well, Chauncey Holt's (or I should say Licavoli's) Oldsmobile stationwagon was ther untill the next day, for he had Michael Whitlock pick it up.

Mmmm, I wonder if this should be the start of a real pissing contest. Maybe first Pamela should explain why her publisher agreed twice to cease her booklets? Or maybe she could show the contracts she signed with me? And then she could also start giving us more of the truth, including certain persons whose brains Jimmy blew out with a shotgun, as well as women whom "he ran over the skull"? When finished with that, she could give us a glance in her Jesus guided mind. Maybe I should help a little with that: Dankbaar has been very self-assured and cocky about all this treachery and doesn't even realize the danger he is putting himself in by double crossing us. He thinks because nothing has happened to him...yet...that he is getting away with abusing the situation. I'm not a violent person and never will be but James Files has nothing left to lose to protect me the only way he knows how. On one occasion, James Files told me he waited 18 years, but justice did come to the offending party. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING TO DANKBAAR but this is FYI only. Dankbaar thinks he is safe because James Files is locked away in prison and fails to realize he is still in close contact with his former associates. Dankbaar really needs to "DO THE RIGHT THING." I will never encourage James Files to do anything harmful but the situation could escalate to the point where no matter what I said wouldn' t matter because something might just "happen." James Files will never tell me about the plans. His mail and phone calls are all monitored and this will be his last COVERT OPERATION to protect the woman he loves. Again, this is VERY CONFIDENTIAL. Pam And then she could do a pitch right here for her "love story" with James, that she believes is worth 2 to 3 million US dollars? Finally, we could ask Jimmy's best living friend Bruce Brychek to render his opinion about Pamela. Wim

Thanks Duncan, that is very helpful. Bill, just post make a GIF with the subsequent images, you can see that you are in error thinking that Jackie places her hand on the defect. The two frames that I posted, you see the back of her hand. Not a position to put your hand on top of is head. Her gloved hand is BEHIND JFK's head. Wim Here's the rest of the frames:

The Zapruder film is NOT faked in any way. And certainly not the parts of the headshots. I know I am talking against a wall with you. I say this to the rest of us here. Bill, I do not exactly which part of my claim you disagree with. Can you elaborate? Wim

Very interesting, but I disagree with Robert Harris on two points. 1) The second headshot from the knoll did not occur half a second later but a split second later, almost simultaneously. within one Zapruder frame, thus within 1/18 second. The shot from the rear was not an explosive bullet, the shot from the front was. The forward headsnap is caused by the bullet from behind, which strikes first. This forward headsnap is not visible to the naked eye at normal speed. It can only be detected by comparing frame 312 and 313. The head snaps forward about 2-3 inches. This is caused by the bullet from the behind. What we see being blown out of the right temple at frame 313 is debris from the IMPACT from the grassy knoll bullet, which strikes a fraction later than the back bullet. Many people don't know this, but that is how debris behaves when a bullet strikes something. It leaves a cone of debris in the opposite direction of the bullet, much like a stone hitting the water. This same bullet then explodes inside the skull after penetrating the temple bone, causing the major blowout in the back of the head, as well as the temple flap of skull where it entered. 2) The autopsy photo of the back of the head IS a forgery. There is no way that the damage done to the back of the head , described by all the doctors and actually visible in the Zapruder film could look like that just by folding back a bone flap with skin and hair on it. Besides, there was still much bone missing (think of the large Harper fragment for example). This photo does not show any holes in the head. It looks like Kennedy has received no wound there whatsoever. In addition, an honest autopsy would show the wounds as they actually were and appeared to the eye, NOT to cover-up (literally) how they looked like. Examining and photographing the wounds as they are, is what an autopsy is all about. The wounds in this photo are no way near to what they actually looked like. Wim PS: Duncan, you're good with drawing lines in photographs. Can you draw the countours of JFK's head in the two photos I posted to start this topic? That would make it really clear.

I agree completely. It's possible that Hofmann believes what he thinks he saw, and maybe that was partly in his dreams, or he expanded his recollection in his mind. The human brain does not always record things factually. Whatever the case, it is simply IMPOSSIBLE for the witnesses on the bridge not to have seen anything from what Hoffmann describes having seen from a much greater distance. Least of all it's possible that none of the witnesses saw Ed's "railroad man" dissassembling the rifle. Simmons, Dodd, Price they all said they RAN over to the picket fence where they saw the puff of smoke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLd3O-Tch6o But hey, as long as Lancer conferences are filled with Hofmann stories, David Atlee Phillips is not turning over in his grave. Wim

The text I have is just a tiny little different. Can you see where it differs? By the spring of 1977, IPS. and independent investigators had learned: A formal agreement between DINA and CORU was made in November 1975. Michael Townley was selected as liaison between the groups. In July 1976 Cuban Terrorists and Michael Townley met in Bonao in the Dominican Republic at the executive lodge of the Falcondo Mining Company to plan joint ventures: both the Cubana bombing and the Letelier killing. Sacha Volman, the veteran CIA agent, and Cuban exile Frank Castro, another CIA man working with Gulf and Western, hosted the meeting. Volman had been a key CIA-labor operative in the Dominican Republic under David Phillips. In 1977, Ambassador George Landau entered the case as a principal and revealed the circumstance of the Paraguayan Passports. The false names and photographs of the two men had been lost by the CIA. Now, after Landau remembered them, they reappeared. "Juan William Rose" and "Sergio Castillo" would later be identified by Chileans as Michael Vernon Townley (Rose), and James E. Sutton (Castillo). 1976, only days after Letelier was murdered, the FBI was pressing Aldo Vera for Information and Vera was co-operating. Vera had been expelled from Accion Cubana in June 1976, according to FBI documents, because of his informant activity. On October 25, 1976, he was murdered in San Juan. He and Townley had started out together in the SAO and PyL. Then Vera had helped to set up Cruz in Franace. Now he was dead, and Townley and his wife feared for their lives.

Excellent, Chris! You see Mrs Franzen actually stepping back here, freeing up the view of the white shirt man. In fact that whole group is backing away in horror, except Mr Franzen and son. Jack, Do you concede now? Can you accept you interpreted things erroneously regarding this issue? Thank in advance, Wim

Makes Ed Hoffman's story rather incredible, doesn't it? Wim

Oswald didn't bring a Carcano into the TSBD. Others did that. If you're looking for some answers on the Carcano game that was played before the assassination, just watch this: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=8250980122157253214 Wim

No Jack, this does not make it more weird, it only reinforces the point. The man with the white shirt is there in the first frame, but he is obstructed from view BY MRS FRANZEN. As she is still in the process of backing away (in a reaction to seeing the horrific wound), the man appears in the next frame, because he is now only half obscured by Mrs Franzen. Wim

I received my copy two days ago. Dick Russell is in my top 3 of authors on the subject, along with Gaeton Fonzi. Although I have only glanced the book, I already know it is outstanding. Wim

Yes, the Nix film and the Zapruder film were taken at the exact same moment in time, or better said DURING the same seconds in time. But the frames that Jack posted of the two films do not correspond with the exact same moment in time. The Nix frame is a little later (as you can see from the progress of the limousine). In that time (between the two frames )Mrs. Franzen has taken a step backwards, and she is the same woman as Jack's "mysterious" gin-and-tonic woman. Which is also why their clothes and hair color match. If Jack would post the preceeding frames also, there doesn't need to be a debate even. It's just unfortunate that these observations, or better said interpretations, lead to the false concunclusion that the Zapruder film was altered. Wim

John, I have ordered the book, but I understand you have it? Is it possible to scan the page or pages around that text and post them? Wim

Well, the image is a lot more distinct than "badgeman". Besides, there is the laws of physics. You should not see an object that is covered with another object. The fact that you see as much of Jackie's glove, means that the normal curve of JFK's back skull is absent (because of a gaping wound that all the doctors saw). http://jfkmurdersolved.com/doctors.htm Wim

I thought it was obvious. You should not see that whole glove if part of JFK's head weren't missing. That is not the contour of a normal intact head. It has a crater in it. I like to be mysterious? Well, at least not as mysterious as "badgeman", disappearing Mrs Franzen and a moonlanding that allegedly never happened. Wim

I think others will see my point. Wim

Why can you as much of her glove as you see?

Is that a direct quote from Donald Freed's book "Death in Washington"? Wim

I'll be glad too. She is not missing at all, In fact, Mrs Franzen IS in Nix because she is the woman that you call "Mrs gin and tonic." What happened is that after seeing JFK's headwound she back's a step away in horror. Just like Toni Foster did, as well as the man on the stairs on the knoll. A natural reaction after seeing such human devastion That is the reason she is a little further from her husband in that Nix frame. However, I expect that you will not accept that. But maybe you could explain what goal the conspirators had by replacing Mrs Franzen for another woman in Nix? Wim