Duane Daman

Regulation of Geoengineering - Published March 2010 http://www.publications.parliament.uk... United Nations science body calls for halt on climate-hacking experiments; http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/20... U.S. Law Allows Testing of Chemicals and Biological Agents on "Civilian Population" http://globalskywatch.com/chemtrails/... CASE ORANGE - Contrail Science - it's impact on Climate and Weather Manipulation Programs Conducted by The United States and it's Allies; http://www.belfort-group.eu/sites/def... Stratospheric sulfate aerosols (geoengineering) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratosp... Stratospheric sulfur aerosols http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratosp... Chemtrail conspiracy theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrai... LIFE IN THE TIME OF CHEMTRAILS 1997-2009: YOU ARE NOW BREATHING ETHYLENE DIBROMIDE, VIRALLY MUTATED MOLDS, NANO-PARTICULATES OF ALUMINUM AND BARIUM AND CATIONIC POLYMER FIBERS WITH UNIDENTIFIED BIO-ACTIVE MATERIAL: "We the people have not been warned, advised or consulted but are certainly vulnerable to the outcomes. Biologic components have been reported in airborne samples that include: modified molds, desiccated red blood cells and exotic strains of bacteria". Additionally, award winning investigative reporter, Will Thomas, has reported findings of over 300 types of virally mutated fungi in the chemtrail fall out. The Idaho Observer has reported findings of 26 metals including barium, aluminum and uranium, a variety of infectious pathogens and chemicals and drugs including sedatives in chemtrail fallout. Dr. R. Michael Castle reports the finding of cationic polymer fibers. Dr. Hildegarde Staninger and Dr. Rahim Karjoom have reported findings of tiny parasitic nematode eggs of some type encased in the fibers. Additionally Drs. Staninger and Karjoom and researcher Jan Smith have reported findings of self-replicating nano-machines and rivers of silicon running wild through the bodies of the Morgellons infected. Researcher Clifford Carnicom has reported finding chemtrails fibers & abnormal blood cells that are an exact match with the bizarre fibers and blood cells found in those suffering from Morgellons Disease. Welcome to the brave new world of toxic skies, weather control, mind control and population control through the use of chemtrails modulated with electromagnetic frequencies generated by HAARP. Our health is under attack as evidenced by the skyrocketing rates of chemtrail induced lung cancer, asthma and pulmonary/respiratory problems as well as the emergence of a bizarre and frightening new plague, Morgellons Disease, an infection with a previously unknown agent that appears to be a synthesis of a bio lab created pathogen combined with self-replicating nano-technology. Over 60,000 families in the U.S. are now infected with Morgellons. There is a main-stream media blackout on this subject so the only way to get the word out is by word of mouth. Realized or not people are already dying from chemtrail related illnesses. People are dying from Morgellons Disease. During this time of chemtrails a shocking drop in general life expectancy in the U.S. has occurred. This situation presents an immediate and serious threat to you, your family and loved ones. We must join together to stop this insane program of chemtrail spraying now. Some of you reading this may be in a position of influence and power to take significant action to bring chemtrails to a halt. Everyone can do something to help. Whatever your position or realm of influence - please do whatever you can to bring an end to the aerosol spray program known as Chemtrails." http://educate-yourself.org/ct/ http://www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm http://www.willthomasonline.net/willt... http://mayanmajix.com/art3852.html NASA Website - Contrail Education - (Total Brainwashing) http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/GLOBE/im...

After doing some research on the murdered micro biologists, I found that the number is closer to 100. Were these men murdered to keep Operation Cloverleaf and other black projects covered up? Over 100 Microbiologists, Chemists and Virologists Have Died http://www.scribd.com/doc/23705517/Over-100-Microbiologists-Chemists-and-Virologists-Have-Died

Ron, I watched a TV program last night on the Histroy chanel about The Disclosure Project, and could barely believe what I was hearing.. I never thought in our lifetimes that any of the top brass Air Force insiders, astronauts, and commercial pilots would ever be allowed to admit that their sightings and encounters were with extraterrestrial craft. As much as I would like to believe the truth is finally coming out, I find it difficult to believe that their motives for doing this is to be honest with the American people. Disiformation has been the name of their game since the beginning of extraterrestrial contact, including the crash at Roswell, New Mexico.. So I don't understand why this top secret information would be allowed to be disclosed now.. It just doesn't make any sense, unless their agenda for doing this is something besides admitting the truth.

Give 'em enough rope... Your "rebuttals" are usualy much more detailed than that. I hope you haven't been taking lessons from your team mate West...

"You have yet to prove ANY disinformation. I have already posted some about the 70+ years of science behind contrail formation as well as multiple examples of persistent contrails dating back to the beginning of jet aviation, long before "chemtrail" proponents say they started." I don't doubt that SOME contrails linger longer than most, but that is NOT what we're discussing here.. People all over the world are witnessing the chemtrail activity and are even video taping it.. Numerous YouTube videos show chemtrail spraying, even up close.. So there is no doubt they are not ordinary contrails. People all over the world are also getting ill after being exposed the chemicals that fall to the ground after these sprayings take place.. I happen to be one of the people who got very ill on two different occasions from chemtrail spraying, whether you and your like minded pals here choose to believe that or not. Scientists all over the world are finally taking notice of these chemtrails, along with their associated illnesses, and have investigated the deadly chemicals that are involved. So no matter how many times you post the DISINFORMATION that they are only "persistant contrails", it won't make it true. "As for being at work, again, it is none of your business but am I not allowed to have a lunch break?" As for your "lunch break", your time would be much better spent if you actually ate lunch, instead of posting untrue information here.

As usual Dave, your NON-COMPARE argument only helped prove the fact that the Apollo "sun" is not the real Sun. Thanks for posting those photos.

John, Of course you have to wear the "I'm a Jack White Apollogist" badge, created by "evilroyburton"! .. Weren't you informed by your team leader that your main purpose for posting on this forum is to pretend to debunk ALL of Jack White's photo analysis? .. Oh, and of course do that mostly using character assassinations and ridicule, which you already have proven to be quite adept at.

On the debate thread, Jim Fetzer keeps asking Evan Burton to step down as a moderator of their debate.. But obviously, that is NEVER going to happen. Jim may as well ask pigs to fly, since there's more chance of that happening, than Burton giving up his power to control or delete Jim and Jack's posts.

So I guess you're not at "work" today either? NOTHING you've posted about chemtrails is based on facts .. What you post is called DISINFORMATION. If you want to agree to disagree with me and the other people who are investigating chemtrails, that's fine .. All you need to do is to STOP reply to my posts about them. But if you think I will stop posting the information about them here, just because you don't like it, then you're sadly mistaken.

I bet it took only a nano second for Cyborg Kevin to come up with the ole' "lens flare" excuse too. Talk about ridiculous .. I'm thinkin the team needs some new "debunking" material.

"I don't get it." No truer words were ever spoken! "That's good, but why would Jim, Jack and Duane wish to be seen as so ridiculous? Are they really innherently that ridiculous?" Oh nooooooooooooooo .. Not more FLAME BAITING RIDICULE!!! I think my hair is even on fire!!!!

Considering the fact that you're in the Air Force, and therefore possibly part of the cover up, your constant disinformation concerning chemtrails comes as no surprise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVZAChMUa0Y&feature=related --"As this "event" gets closer, we are seeing a sharp increase in what I can only call disinformation. I think that the expected curve of public awareness was carefully calculated, with the conclusion that not enough people would wake up to what is happening before it was too late. However, with the explosive growth of the Internet chemtrail awareness is reaching "critical mass" much too soon. There are now too many people who can say, "We know what you are doing, and when this is all over you will pay." At the same time a significant disinformation campaign is underway here and in Europe to prevent this, and keep as many people as possible confused about what is really happening." "50 USC [u.S. Code], Sec. 1520 Jan. 16, 1996 TITLE 50 - WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE CHAPTER 32 - CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM Sec. 1520: Use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents by Department of Defense; accounting to Congressional committees with respect to experiments and studies; notification of local civilian officials." "The strange-looking streaks in the sky aren't your imagination. They are anti-bacteriological warfare chemicals being tested by the federal government. And the public has been kept in the dark." "The debunkers are silenced -- This is important new proof of the chemtrail spraying effort. It now appears that no matter where you live, you can see the tiny "micro-filaments" when viewed under a simple black-light! Confirmation from all over the U.S. has them clinging to clothes, skin, plants, you name it. They're everywhere." "Nobody knows, for sure, just yet. Chemtrails appear, at first, to be regular airplane contrails, thin lines of wispy white vapour that follow a jet,s path. But, whereas contrails usually fade within a few minutes of an airplane,s passing, chemtrails diffuse and spread over the sky. Chemtrails have been reported in hundreds of North American cities over the past two years, and, most alarmingly, they appear to cause respiratory illnesses in those with weakened immune systems." The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." - -- Albert Einstein

Every word you posted is nonsense because none of it is true. The government and Air Force are covering up the truth about chemtrails.. They even go so far as to falsely claim that "the chemtrail conspiracy is nothing but a hoax".. But unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth. Government Cover-ups: Chemtrails From the World Affairs Brief: Joel Skousen CHEMTRAILS: FINALLY, SOME ANSWERS Canadian investigative reporter William Thomas has uncovered, through tenacious and prodigious research, some answers to the mysterious chemtrail issue. Chemtrails are chemical laden vapor trails dispersed at high altitudes by US military tanker aircraft and by some private aircraft under top-secret contracts with the US government. A draft version of Thomas report can be read online at http://www.nexusmagazine.com/chemtrails.html. I dont agree with everything Thomas writes or speculates about, but I will summarize his conclusions and share my analysis of what I think is well founded. The chemtrail phenomenon has been observed for many years in different parts of the US as well as in other allied nations. These chemtrails are primarily characterized by thick trails of white vapor, which persist for long periods of time, gradually dispersing to cover wide areas of the sky. Lets review some of the major differences between these chemical vapor trails and the normal, harmless condensation trails (contrails) often emitted by aircraft. There are several critical distinguishing characteristics between these two types of emissions: 1) Chemtrails often occur at altitudes and in environmental conditions where normal contrails cannot and do not occur. According to NOAA meteorologist Thomas Schlatter, quoted in the article, At temperatures lower than approx -40 deg F contrails almost always form, regardless of relative humidity. The higher the ambient temperature, the less likely that contrails will form. At temperatures above -40 degrees F, contrails are not expected. The persistence of contrails depends upon temperature, relative humidity, and the vigor of mixing between the exhaust plume and the ambient air. At low temperatures, with high humidity, and with stable temperature stratification (which inhibits vertical mixing of the air), contrails persist for many hours." Chemtrails also occur at altitudes where contrails occur and thus the two are mixed. 2) Chemtrails persist for many hours and spread out continuously until wide areas of the sky are covered. Contrails spread out only slightly and evaporate within 10 seconds to several hours, depending on the upper air humidity and temperature. Contrails can persist under exceptional circumstances, so this is not a definitive criteria. 3) Contrails are always pure white and dont exhibit much halo effect. Chemtrails have an oily glint to them, with pronounced rainbow-like color effects (reddish or pinkish tint) as the sun shines through. Some of the best photographic evidence of chemtrails is found at http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm. 4) Contrails are composed of water vapor combined with a small amount of residue from burned jet fuel. Analysis of chemtrail residues, in contrast, claims to have uncovered a variety of chemicals and other substances, including barium, aluminum oxide, microscopic fibers and oil-based products, none of which are intrinsic to normal jet fuel. 5) Contrails exit directly behind the engines of the aircraft, which produce the moisture. Thus, aircraft will exhibit only 1, 2, 3, or 4 distinct condensation trails, each trailing an engine. Chemtrails, in contrast, are expelled from multiple ports along the entire wing surface, not directly in line with the engines. Once again, see the pictures on www.carnicom.com. These photos are perhaps the most definitive of all chemtrail evidence. Some debunkers use cropped photos of high-G manuevers which gives off aerodynamic condensation from the wing--as a supposed explanation to wing emitted chemtrails. But this is bogus. Aerodynamic condensation doesnt occur in straight and level flight and never leaves a long contrail. It also shows up within inches of the wing trailing edge, unlike chemtrail spraying. 6) Contrails cannot be shut on and off at will, nor abruptly, as witnesses have seen in numerous sightings of chemical spraying by aircraft. I personally have seen this type of on/off spraying in Utah by two military tankers flying in loose formation. When numerous witnesses called KSL--TV in Salt Lake City to investigate, KSL dutifully parroted the governments official response: that the aircraft was a government contractor flying a Lear jet and doing experiments on ice crystal formation. Baloney! As one of those witnesses, and an experienced pilot, I can tell you those two huge military tanker aircraft were not tiny Lear jets. The government is lying--but at least, in this case, they didnt try to outright deny what hundreds of people were watching, as they usually do. They simply tried to take advantage of public ignorance of aircraft recognition, feeding them a phony but marginally plausible excuse. 7) Aircraft dispersing chemtrails always fly back and forth over a set area, creating circular or zig-zag patterns of vapor in the sky. Often many chemtrail aircraft can be seen in one area, flying in crisscross patterns laying down vapor trails before flying off over the horizon. Large airliners operating under Air Traffic Control fly on set airways and do not make such patterns in the sky. Government representatives have tried to pass off reports of crisscross chemtrail patterns as merely the convergence of airliner contrails at normal air traffic intersections, but this is false. For one thing, almost all airways in the US run in straight lines. Neither do airliners fly in close formation with other aircraft. In addition, chemtrail sightings almost never come close to normal airway intersections, lest they interfere with normal traffic or be observed by other airline passengers. 8) All legitimate aircraft at high altitudes emitting contrails will be acknowledged by the FAA. Conversely, the existence of aircraft spraying chemicals is always denied by the FAA, under orders from the government. You can be on a cell phone, in real time, reporting the presence of an aircraft overhead to the FAA and they will tell you that no such aircraft exists on their radar screens. They are flat-out lying. Its amazing to me how many military pilots and government ATC controllers can so easily justify these lies. Surely some are aware of the damaging health effects reported on the internet. Occasionally, an honest controller will admit there is a military exercise blocked out for that area. Many have long suspected that the government has been using these airborne chemical sprayings to test dispersal methods for mild forms of biological or chemical warfare. Indeed, chemtrail sightings have long been associated with community-wide illnesses reported in the areas of the sprayings. Thomas himself was involved in a case in Espanola, Ontario, in the spring of 1998. Residents there had been complaining of severe headaches, chronic joint pain, dizziness, sudden extreme fatigue, acute asthma attacks and feverless flu-like symptoms over a 50-square-mile area [which] coincided with what they termed months of spraying by photo-identified US Air Force tanker planes. An expert witness in the case, former Ontarion Provincial Police Officer Ted Simola, described the lingering Xs and numerous white trails, some of which just ended as if they had been shut off but remained in the sky, observations consistent with other chemtrail sightings. On November 18, 1998, the people of Espanola petitioned Parliament, suspecting possible government involvement in these airborne chemical emissions. They called upon Parliament to repeal any law that would permit the dispersal of military chaff or of any cloud-seeding substance whatsoever by domestic or foreign military aircraft without the informed consent of the citizens of Canada thus affected. In response to their petition, the Ministry of Defense eventually replied: Its not us. The government assertion was mostly true: it was not Canadian aircraft, but US Air Force tankers which were conducting the sprayings. Yet the Canadian government was complicit in allowing the US to experiment over Canada. Thomas did finally get an American ATC controller to talk to him, under conditions of anonymity. The controller works on the US eastern seaboard. Thomas called his contact Deep Sky. Deep Sky confirmed that the chemicals being spread in the exercises were acting as electrolytes, enhancing conductivity of radar and radio waves. Additionally, the spread of the material was actually degrading, not enhancing, ATC radars so there had to be some other purpose behind the sprayings. It is significant that many of the exercises were conducted out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, in Ohio, which, according to Thomas, has long been deeply engaged in HAARPs electromagnetic warfare program. HAARP is a US government radio wave project in Alaska which could be related to weather modification. HAARPs huge powerful transmitters and arrays of antennas are, according to the official website, designed to heat up the atmosphere above it. Phasing the antennas can skew the heating effect directionally, and may even interact with reflective layers of metal particles in Chemtrails. What is interesting is that HAARPs location is at the 65th parallel, just south of the arctic circle. This position corresponds to the atmospheric boundary where relatively moist southern air moving northward collides with cold arctic air coming south. When these dissimilar air mass meet they rise and form new storm systems. Heating the atmosphere directly under this boundary layer would tend to accelerate storm development. Finally, through a series of questions, Deep Sky confirmed that the US tankers were indeed involved in climate modification experiments. At this point in the article, Thomas launches into a theory that the reflective clouds are being used to reduce the effects of global warming (Edward Tellers theory). He discusses the Welsback patent, issued in 1994 to Hughes Aircraft, [long involved in government black operations] which involves the use of a reflective blanket of aluminum-laced cloud cover to cool the earth. However, I think Thomas was fed disinformation here. The government often uses phony patents to lead investigators down the wrong trail--especially when dealing with HAARP. Global warming is a fraud. There is no way the US government would engage in this massive a cover-up and risk illness to the US population over a theory with little basis in fact and even less evidence of actual damage. Besides, government sponsored aerosol spraying has been going on before global warming became an issue. However, the weather modification process is, in my opinion, the best explanation so far as to the widespread use of spraying. The reflective aluminum particles or fibers in the created cloud barriers cause cool spots over normally warm areas, which influence the rise or fall of air masses. These reflective layers may also react with HAARP transmissions in some way. Radio transmissions need reflective layers to channel the energy in specific directions. The creation of sun or radiation shielding may explain why spraying occurs at high altitude, during the daytime, and in cloudless areas--where the reflective shield would be visible and effective for a long time. None of these characteristics fit a biological or chemical warfare test scenario. If the government was testing delivery methods of biological or chemical agents, it would be more likely to mix the chemicals in clouds at much lower altitudes where it would more easily precipitate downward on the population. The chemtrail sprayings always take place at high altitudes where the materials can linger or drift long distances: hardly an accurate delivery method. The sprayings are also done only in clear areas of the sky--which, again, points to weather modification. What Im convinced of now, is that the widespread flu-like and Alzheimers symptoms have been mere side effects of the sprayed chemicals, and not the direct purpose of the sprayings. The extensive use of aluminum oxide, found as the primary component of these reflective clouds, does have serious medical side effects and may well explain the upsurge in Alzheimers disease in the US--which is reaching epidemic proportions. I think it is also clear that the government has been experimenting with different types and mixes of chemicals, which explains why the observations and effects differ over time. Several years ago, there were many sightings of sticky droplets falling from the sky, trailing spider-web-like strands behind. Upon contact they made people very ill. Later chemical analysis has shown a lot of aluminum oxide and micro fibers, also composed of barium and aluminum. People living under these spray patterns have developed Alzheimers-like symptoms. As expected, the US continues to deny any spraying as well as any experimentation in weather modification. The media is totally complicit in this cover-up as well. The allegations have been widespread over the internet for years. Thousands of inquiries have gone out to the media over the years and not once has the major media ever done a story on this issue. The health consequences are huge. Even the politically correct environmental movement has had no luck in pressing the media for coverage. There is no way to explain the medias refusal to investigate or give coverage to this story except that they are fully aware of it and are under bogus national security orders to spike the story. A US Air Force Colonel, according to Thomas, told a senator: The Air Force is not conducting any weather modification and has no plans to do so in the future. But as Thomas retorts, In fact, attempts to steer hurricanes by spraying heat-robbing chemicals in their paths began in the 1950s. The recipe for creating cirrus shields was outlined in an unusually arrogant US Air Force study. Subtitled, Owning the Weather by 2025, the 1996 report explained how weather force specialists were dispersing chemicals behind high-flying tanker aircraft in a process the air force calls aerial obscuration. Sounds just like what people are describing as chemtrails. Even members of Congress know about Chemtrails. The term is in the list of prohibited Space activities of Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977 Space Preservation Act. Because of the variety of different chemicals used in Chemtrails over the past 10 years and the changing patterns of spraying, Im convinced the government is still experimenting and hasnt actually found a predictable way yet to harness the weather. Sadly, this only means the secret experiments will continue and people will suffer. http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/Chemtrails.shtml

Jack, Have no worries about the file number of the exploding Sun.. I bet West can locate it a nano second. Never forget that all NASA Cyborgs are super human!

Not being able to locate one image number equates to "no-one" believing Jack's analysis? That's even more absurd than your flame baiting "evilroyburton" Apollogist badge.

Jack does not have the first clue about what he is doing, mickey mouse comes to mind. You don't have the first clue what it is you are seeing. Yet again mickey mouse comes to mind. Then there is your problem of "believing". Perhaps you would be better served to actually EDUCATE yourself so you can move on to KNOWING. Actually I do KNOW what the Apollo photography is.. It's FAKE. I also KNOW what you are, though I'm not allowed to post that here. Anyhoo, it's better to be like Mickey Mouse than ...

I guess spamming your pre emptive rebuttals excuses on two different threads will help your cause as well.

"Perspective distortion ... "Compression distortion", blah blah blah .... It looks as though John has now joined the team and is even giving away their rebuttals excuses to the visor reflection anomalies BEFORE the debate has even begun! Nothing like giving your game away in advance guys.

I see you had some time off from "work" to post some more nonsense. But thanks for moving the videos I posted up to where they can be seen again.. It's important for people to see what's really going on. My new name for these deadly chemtrails is "The Tic Tac Toe Game of Death".

"I don't post nonsense. You haven't yet bothered to address what I've written. You just spam more youtube videos." I haven't spammed anything .. The YouTube videos I posted here provide the PROOF that chemtrails are being sprayed, that they are NOT contrails, and that the Air Force is involved with the spraying of these poisons. "Stating the Air Force is involved in spraying (which is unproven), stating I'm in the Air Force, and making the point that I "monitor this forum day and night to make sure you post immediately after anyone posts any evidence of chemtrails." (also unproven and untrue) is meant to imply I post here for a job. I maintain it is an accusation." Sorry, but it's a proven fact that the Air Force is spraying chemtrails, and I also believe it's a fact that you're in the Air Force.. I never implied that your job is posting here. So I guess you're not a work right now?

Err, to make it as easy as possible for anyone on the forum to find the highest resolution version of that image, which is a scan of the film roll itself, without any processing applied? In other words, one that is a close to the original as we're likely to get online? See above. You haven't ascertained what processing the image from the Project Apollo Image Gallery has been put through. That's why I gave the link to the LPI site that explains how much the catalogue images have been processed. If you don't know what processing has been applied, how can you possibly make judgements about whether "anomalies" are evidence of fakery, or more mundane artefacts that we know exist and are widely documented? For example, look back at the image you initially thought was obviously faked, but Jack showed was scanner noise (since the same mundane artefacts were visible in the shadow of the crater). Had the Earth been visible in the sky, it's quite plausible that a technician somewhere may have said, "OK, let's make this image look a bit nicer, we'll mask out the Earth, then black out the rest of the sky." You'd then be left with an image that shows a very similar effect to the one seen in the image under discussion. How can it have been removed from a scan of the original film roll that shows no evidence of tampering, but is visible in a version of the image whose provenance you don't know, but has likely been processed in a similar way to those images on the LPI? Bravo Dave! .. That was a wonderful performance, as usual The only problem I have with what you and your friends said though, is who am I to believe? .. A team of professional disinformationists or conspiracy researcher Jack White, his study showing a different color square surrounding a composited image of earth, or my own "lying" eyes? Hmmmmmmm Tell you what though.. Since you did such a fine job of obscuring the truth once again, I propose that the name of this forum be changed, in honor of your remarkable, hard work.. Instead of the "Education Forum", I suggest we change the name of it to THE OBFUSCATION FORUM. Yep, that does have a nice ring to it.. Not to mention, it's more appropriate to what really takes place here!

Boy Duane, when you stick your foot in your mouth you stick it all the way in, don't you? Thats not the front page, its a query results page. Dave did the hard work for you by asking for THAT IMAGE and he linked to the RESULTS. The high res image has far less processing than what you will find at AIG, and the images at AIG have been resampled and resaved for even further jpg compression. And of course getting an uncompressed and un resampled image to preform testing is the correct way to do things when possible. Your way, and Jacks, working from highly processed files instead of images closer to the originals is simply mickey mouse club stuff..... To quote you in a manner of speaking, you really do suck at this.... Craig, Since that was the first time I ever laid eyes on that web site, how was I suppossed to know Greer didn't link the front page? And yes, it's true that I pretty much suck at debating .. You see, never took any courses in that subject .. I preferred to study music and psychology instead. But even though I'm not very good at debating, I am good at researching conspiracies and also the people who protect those conspiracies.. In fact, I did some research on you and found out your true identity. Of course if you hadn't been so obvious as to what your true character is, I might never have discovered who you really are. btw, Craig the Dick, have you ever noticed that NOBODY on this forum is very friendly, or even has a sense of humor?

"I HAVE looked at the "evidence". I have found it lacking." The chemtrail evidence isn't what's lacking.. What's lacking is your ability to admit it's true. "The article is written by Mike Blair but it doesn't really make it clear that he is referring to himself." You mean you don't believe Blair actually wrote that article, or you don't believe he really believes what he wrote? "Your research standard is approaching Jack's. I post immediately? Care to actually check those times? You know that is BS. Most of the time I have to wait until I get home because I can't usually post from work." Well, it's good to know that you can't waste your time posting your nonsense here while you're at work.. Everybody needs break from that sometimes. "Which brings up another point, I am NOT a pilot nor am I paid to post here or anywhere. If your research had bothered to bring you to my signature, biography, or the forum rules, you would know that and you would know you aren't allowed to make that accusation anyway." It was not an accusation, it was me hoping you aren't involved in the US Air Force's poisoning of the planet.. Please read what I wrote again and then stop accusing me of accusing you. This is what I said .. "I just hope you're not one the Air Force pilots helping to destroy the planet." That is clearly NOT an accusation.

"An anonymous guy says so? Great source." I wonder if Mike Blair knows his real name is "anonymous"? "Of course it repeats the lie that contrails can't persist and always disperse. If you had bothered to look at post 105 you'd know that isn't so and never has been." Of course you repeat the contrail LIE.. The Air Force is spraying chemtrails.. You're in the Air Force.. You monitor this forum day and night to make sure you post immediately after anyone posts any evidence of chemtrails. I just hope you're not one the Air Force pilots helping to destroy the planet. Take a real close look at this CHEMTRAIL evidence, and then post some more nonsense in the hope that somebody besides your clueless pal Kevin believes you.

It was high resolution. Jack, I find it very interesting that the link Greer suggested you use has the photo we're discussng on it's FRONT PAGE!! http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=AS17&roll=134&frame=20471&QueryResultsFile=128509846922522.tsv Gee, I wonder why that would be? .. I also wonder why Greer wants you to use that high res photo, instead of the high res photo I sent you, from the Project Apollo Image Gallery? But then NASA states on Greer's pick that .."Higher resolution products should be obtained for use in any scientific investigation(s)." I'm sure if you analyzed this high res photo instead, the evidence of image compositing of the "earth" has been very carefully removed. What you wanna bet?