Joseph Backes

Robert, You may already know this but FWIW Joe Murphy, who met and identified Gary Powers on the Glienicke Bridge in Berlin during his exchange for KGB spy Rudolf Abel, was a CIA security officer and not a U-2 pilot. See - https://www.cia.gov/static/83b2ce82bd77664fd645ee7095c74dd4/brotherhood-of-spies.pdf Joe Murphy discusses his role in the trade of an American CIA agent for a Soviet agent. Also - https://thehighlandernews.com/18537/news/cia-agent-visits-mclean/ Joe

The doc in question is RIF#104-10326-10050. Schnapf has claimed on more than one occasion ( most recently on Black Op Radio episode #1154 ) that in this document Walter Mondale, then U.S. Ambassador to Japan is urging the US not to release JFK assassination records. This is not exactly true. It's a little more nuanced and complex. And it's in regard to a specific type of information that need not be disclosed. The document still has many redactions so it's not easy to read. What is really going on is that the CIA does not want to release any of their records that show that Japan and the CIA have a relationship and shared intelligence. Why? Because it would disrupt (then) current counterterrorist and counterintelligence operations by confirming such a relationship. It would become a national scandal in Japan. It would create a political sh#t show in Japan. It would endanger (then) current agents and assets. Why? Because the [redacted] but most likely Japanese government does not even officially acknowledge that it collects intelligence, nor, and this is right out in the open "not admit to having liaison relationships with US intelligence agencies." So, any official confirmation that would negate the official story of the then conservative ruling party in Japan would be used like a club by the out of power Left wing party. This would be damaging to the US-Japan mutual security treaty and the presence of US forces in Japan. At the time the US President was going to visit Japan soon. There were (then) current, delicate negotiations overs US military bases in Japan. All would be at risk if a document was releases confirming a CIA relationship with Japan intel agencies. So, no, this is not Walter Mondale saying don't release JFK assassination records. In fact, there's no evidence any of this is coming from Mondale at all. It's a CIA cable. Now, of course, we had relationships with Japan. The CIA flew U-2s out of Atsugi, Japan and we have many bases in Japan. And Oswald was at Atsugi. So, it's insane to deny a relationship. But, the conservative party in Japan did. Not Walter Mondale. So, Ambassador Mondale was put in a difficult spot. It is disingenuous to say Mondale was trying to stop disclosure of JFK assassination records. It is the CIA, today, that is still redacting this record.

Despite what Morley wrote the DIA did not destroy all of their records. DIA documents have RIF numbers that start with 111. There are many of them. Unfortunately, only a scant few are available at MFF 111-10001-10001 through 111-10001-10102 exist. Four of these are online at MFF. 1.) 111-10001-10091 2.) 111-10001-10093 3.) 111-10001-10099 4.) 111-10001-10102 BTW, all of their records would include copies or records sent to them from other agencies. There is no information if there are documents with the middle range 111-10002, or 111-10003. RIF #111-10004-10001 through 111-10004-10035, are all online at MFF. Some DIA documents that were created by them are under other RIF numbers because they were sent to other agencies. An example of this is RIF#197-10002-10174. Malcom Blunt copied this, whole and intact, he even copied the RIF page. ( I'm so happy. ) Look in the Malcolm Blunt archive at DPUK. Look in file for DIA. File is named - DIA - Status Soviet Military in Cuba Dec 23 1963. There were some released Dec 15, 2022. 9 of them. I am very busy looking at what is listed here -Agency Postponement Documentation I would draw your attention to the CIA Document index. Joe

OMG, what a STUPID, fake document. And as always there's some fool who will think it's real. Ridiculous fraud. "Experimental Assassination Team" HA!

Bugger, it's off. From John Newman: Well, the interview was originally on for 11:00 am this morning and then it was changed to 8:00 am tomorrow. And now, it's off!! And allegedly being rescheduled--with apologies for the on-again off-again business. I am happy to get sleep tonight. Please pass the word in your group.

From Alan Dale: Dr. John Newman will be interviewed at 8:00 a.m. London time TOMORROW MORNING live on BBC 4 Radio. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001nghb

Yes, the cancelling of the FBI Security flash on Oswald was important and very odd, inexplicable if you're not involved in the conspiracy to kill JFK. If you're not, then why did you do this? But there was a key event before LHO went to MC that is crucial. The CIA asked permission from the FBI about doing something targeting the FPCC and it had an international aspect to it as well. They are a little vague about exactly what they're planning to do. But, they get it. This is before LHO goes to MC. And it is a big thing largely overlooked by people interested in MC. MC would not have happened at all without this. I think this also involved Marvin Gheesling and Lambert Anderson. This is mentioned in one of John Newman's books. Joe

There was a plane crash at Dulles in 1988 in which a pilot was killed. He was apparently flying for Fairways Corporation. And the CIA would not let the press know the name of the pilot. Eventually, they did. He was Melvin Shockley. See - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/07/22/police-say-cia-withheld-identity-of-dead-pilot/d23f9098-58f2-4ab6-a570-d47184fb9d35/ Joe

Odd things you find on the internet... There just happens to be a CIA Services that runs a Fairway Place Homeowners Association. https://www.ciaservices.com/cia-community-index.php?id=428 ? Joe

Was the #CIA monitoring U.S. politicians? Fairways Corporation was a CIA sponsored charter airline which was used for "field work in the United States." Prominent politicians, including Robert Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Hubert Humphrey, used the airline unaware it was owned and operated by the CIA. Sorry guys it loads for me. I have an absolutely ridiculous size limit imposed on me. So, I can't post proper images. So, see RIF #104-10438-10237. pages 10 & 11. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=230890#relPageId=10 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=230890#relPageId=11 There's a paywall but some smart people should be able to find a way around that https://www.nytimes.com/1975/07/08/archives/cia-allegedly-flew-unwitting-officials.html

The names mentioned are: 1.) Warren DeBreuys. 2.) Ernest C Wall, Jr. 3.) Milton Kaack Rob Clark ready from the HSCA testimony of William Walter.

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But, why, why not a false flag? Wah! I should open a false flag ice cream store as it seems to be everyone's favorite flavor. It would look a lot like the Monty Python Cheese Shop. A CIA false flag op hijacked by a rogue group of JMWAVE CIA people because that's better than thinking the CIA had anything to do with it? BTW, I'm not saying the CIA did it. It was a collaborative effort involving key people in key positions in several agencies.

I've read this several times. Each time wising it was in simple English. Forget all the work of John Newman, all of his books and presentations, all the documents. Isn't my analysis better? Umm, no, no it isn't. Forget false flag BS. Forget Lamar Waldron's nonsense. Forget the mob did it BS. I'm so tired of people who don't read documents but do read the title of a document talking and writing about Operation Northwoods. Read the documents. Read John Newman's books. BTW, all of the Castro assassination plots, ALL OF THEM, are fake. All were controlled by the CIA. All were sabotaged. All designed to fail. Why? Because you need Castro alive after the assassination of JFK to blame the crime on Castro, so you can play the WWIII card. JFK tried to get Castro but Castro got him first. But if people discover that it'll be WWIII. So, shut up. SHUT UP! And say, "It was Oswald." I don't get people who just can't believe there was any actual plot to kill JFK by the highest leaders in the highest positions of government in 1963. Why are you here?

Newman picked Angleton in the updated version of "Oswald and the CIA," I believe.

The other researcher was John Newman.

Do we really need to summarize John Newman's book, and Jefferson Morley's and Gaston Fonzi's, and the Lopez report, and a few hundred documents in this thread before it dies?

People, It's not important if the real LHO went to MC or not. Do not get lost in a discussion of did he or didn't he. The important thing is who was told that he did and why were they being told that he did. And that that information went into several US intel agency files and did not ring alarm bells. It lay dormant and bloomed like a virus only after the gunfire in Dealey Plaza. And then it was used to silence those US intel agencies, to blackmail them into inaction. There was info about LHO visiting with Soviets and Cubans, even meeting the Soviet guy in charge of assassinations in the Western hemisphere, threatening to kill JFK six weeks before the murder and you did nothing? So, instead of people learning that they all decide to support the lone nut solution. There are very few people on earth in 1963 who could accomplish this task six weeks before the assassination. And it is the best evidence of a conspiracy within the highest levels of the US federal government. The story of MC was used to get Earl Warren to chair the commission LBJ creates. The transcript of this LBJ phone call to Senator Richard Russell is in Michael Beschloss's first book on the LBJ tapes, "Taking Charge." ops 66 - 72. LBJ is telling Russell how he got Warren to come to the White House. LBJ sent RFK to get him and Warren refused. LBJ demanded he come and when he did he hit him with the WWIII threat. "And I just pulled out what Hoover told me about a little incident in Mexico City." It doesn't matter if the real LHO or an imposter met Kostikov. What matters is the story of LHO meeting Kostikov is told to people who do believe it and are terrified when they hear it. They are thus manipulated into stopping others from hearing this story fearing the American public will demand a nuclear strike against Cuba or Russia or both and then it's WWIII because it'll be your fault if people learn this, and your fault if WWIII starts. Who came up with this WWIII threat is a better question to ask then did the real LHO go to MC or not. Joe

For me it doesn't really matter. I think he was physically impersonated if Duran's comment of a Blonde haired Oswald is true. He and Duran were definitely impersonated on the phone. I can't understand why no photo exists of LHO in MC. There were spies taking photos of spies taking photos of spies. I would think the Soviets and the Cubans would take photos of who's coming and going from their own embassies and consulates. The Mexican government would be taking photos and the CIA was taking photos. And after a stay of several days, multiple visits, there's nothing. All that there is are photos of someone who definitely is not Oswald.

Benjamin, John Newman pointed out that in Cuba the employees of these places played volleyball on Saturday and they were very serious about it. Unfortunately, John Newman's presentation at Lancer '99 which I transcribed and scanned copies of docs that John had as slides was on Lancer's website which got hacked. So, it's not online anymore and I have been too busy to recreate it and put it back up. But, it's something I want to get done when I can. That presentation answers many questions.

Benjamin, The title, "Withheld," was created in 1993 when the 1992 JFK Act mandated the creation of an identification aid which became the RIF numbering system and form. Since the name "Ramon Joseph Alvarez Durant" was being redacted they went with "Withheld" as a title. It is not the case that the title is still being withheld from us. This is also the case for a great many other documents. This is a CIA document. Unfortunately, these NARA post 2017 releases often do not include the RIF in what gets scanned in the .pdf they release. A RIF usually gives us the date the doc was created. But, we don't know when this was written. The issue of whether LHO actually visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies / consulates was questioned almost immediately once it was put forth. It was an issue right away. And the issue and questions only grew with time. As John Newman commented in the 1990's when he gave presentations on this it really doesn't matter if Oswald did, if he was impersonated in person, or only impersonated on the phone, or any combination of that. We can prove they lied and we have a law on our side. It's not up to us to guess with the evidence withheld. They have to explain. For the record, he was clearly impersonated in person. Silvia Duran described Oswald as having "Blonde hair." And Oswald and Duran were impersonated on the phone. So, with that said the use of the word "allegedly" isn't that odd.

Senator Edward V Long, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Practices looked into whether congressional phone lines were being tapped by private investigators or other government agencies. This was in 1966. Did they have hearings or issue a report? See - https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP75-00149R000700330016-5.pdf Also - RIF #104-10122-10344. The Committee's Chief Counsel was Bernard Fensterwald. According to Wikipedia Long died rather mysteriously. "On November 6, 1972, Long died unexpectedly at the age of 64. Five months later, his personal secretary told prosecutors in Clarksville, Missouri, that he had told her that he believed that he had been poisoned by candy which had been sent to him in the mail, although no box of candy was found later in the home, which had been broken into two days after his death. No charges were ever filed arising from Long's death. Long's widow filed a $3.25 million lawsuit against the secretary on the same day of the report to police." Secretary Says Poison May Have Killed Long— Tells Inquiry of Candy That Came in Mail", UPI report in Los Angeles Times, April 21, 1973, p. I-2 Joe

My criticism toward Jim D is for referring people to Emerald Robinson, not for the totality of Jim's work as a JFK researcher nor on the content of his website. Once upon a time there was a Jim D who would treat her the way he does Fred Litwin. I want that Jim D to come back.

Once more, because when you write plain, concise, simple English on this forum some people just don't get it. Emerald Robinson wrote - “Dear Christians: the vaccines contain a bioluminescent marker called LUCIFERASE so that you can be tracked. Read the last book of the New Testament to see how this ends." People who tell such a ridiculous lie about COVID which killed over a million Americans have lost the right to be taken seriously about anything else she writes. People who write such filth should be shunned by anyone with an ounce of self respect or any respect for the enormous loss of life for those who died from COVID not just in the U.S. but all over the world. See - https://deadline.com/2021/11/newsmax-emerald-robinson-white-house-1234868176/ It was so ridiculous NEWSMAX fired her over it. Ted Johnson wrote, "The network has tried to distance itself from the tweet, noting earlier this week in a message from chief content officer Elliot Jacobson that “Newsmax is a strong proponent that Covid-19 vaccines are overarchingly safe and effective, while at the same time raising concerns that mandates infringe on personal liberty and privacy. We have seen no evidence to suggest that LUCIFERASE or LUCIFERIN are present in any vaccines or that they are used as any sort of bioluminescent marker.” The outlet also noted that the “false claims have never been reported on Newsmax.” Is it really so much to ask for Jim DiEugenio to have a higher ethical standard than NEWSMAX? I would never refer anyone to anything written by her. She's okay now because she's writing about the JFK assassination? No. Okay, so what about this Lipscomb book? Well, it's been over a year an a half since Robinson wrote her substack article on this forthcoming book and there's no sign of it. If it's as bad as Korth's thing hopefully we won't see it. Joe

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