Vince Palamara

3 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:

Thanks, Roger, for your civil tone. 

Clark said he studied the head wound in an effort to determine if it was a survivable wound, and quickly realized the answer was no. 

Now, he did say he saw cerebellum. And never retracted that statement. 

And I consider that a problem for my conclusion he was mistaken. 

But he refused to talk to conspiracy theorists, and denounced them in the press, and worked with Lattimer, so I think his ultimate position was probably that he was in fact mistaken. 

While studying his statements, moreover, I noticed that he claimed in the press conference, his report, and in his testimony, that the wound appeared to be a tangential wound. That led me to wonder 1) why those obsessed with his statements regarding cerebellum never discussed the significance of these statements, and 2) what was the implication of these statements. This sent me on a years-long journey into forensics journals and books on wound ballistics, and to the ultimate realization Clark was absolutely correct on this point. This is spelled out in chapter 16b Digging in the Dirt. 

As far as messages, my inbox is probably full and I probably need to clean up a few. I have been holding onto old messages from people like Gerry Hemming, Gary Mack, and David Lifton. 

This raises a question. Should I make these messages public now that they are no longer with us? Is that cool, and in the spirit of this website? I don't know. 

Thanks for your feedback, Pat!

Good comments! Thanks everyone!

Yes- I am a huge fan of all of Jim DiEugenio's books and the latest Stone documentary. 

Likewise, @Pat Speer is my favorite researcher- he has me questioning my beliefs on the medical evidence over and over again. For example- at first glance, the new book by Dr. David Mantik and Jerome Corsi THE FINAL ANALYSIS is quite impressive, yet the entire time I was reading it (I just finished it), I kept thinking "I'll bet Pat Speer doesn't believe this" or "I think Pat Speer debunked this" and so on.

Pat- what is you take on the book and Mantik's work? Do you believe his optical density measurements are solid? What about the white patch on the x-rays? What about the dark area on the back of the head as seen in the Zapruder film? Also, what about the red spot on the color autopsy photos that is alleged to be an entry wound (the approximate Clark Panel and HSCA position) that others have disputed?

I mentioned this author and this book before, but I am greatly impressed with Oswald-probably-did-it-alone Robert A. Wagner's new book (which seems to have died out on Amazon-just 3 reviews and not-good rankings) JFK ASSASSINATED: IN THE COURTROOM- DEBATING THE CRITIC RESEARCH COMMUNITY. Wagner succeeds where Manchester, Bishop, Belin, Moore, Posner, Bugliosi, Ayton (etc.) fail:

He is a nice guy who CONCEDES ground from the pro-conspiracy side; greatly and genuinely respects several prominent authors and researchers from "our" side such as Pat Speer, Tink Thompson, David Mantik, etcetera; is NICE in his tone--no insults or snarky remarks; he DOES NOT BELIEVE THE SINGLE BULLET THEORY (!)

Wagner believes the greatest challenge to those who believe there was a conspiracy is the following: there is no evidence that Oswald's movements were controlled in any fashion on 11/22/63 to PREVENT HIM FROM HAVING AN ALIBI. As an open-minded author/researcher, I myself cannot think of a good counter argument to this challenge. I hope someone else can and will. I asked researcher Martin Hay, who (in my opinion) successfully reviewed and counter-argued Wagner's previous book THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK: PERSPECTIVES HALF A CENTURY LATER, to review his current book but I don't know if he will or not.

Wagner believes the greatest challenge to those who believe there was NOT a conspiracy is the high-on-the-top-of-the-skull bullet fragment trail, as both alleged rear entrance locations on the skull do not explain it away.

Again, Wagner believes Oswald definitely fired shots and probably acted alone, yet his style is so open-minded and refreshing (finally! An Oswald-probably-acted-alone author who concedes points! It's a miracle!) that he gets you thinking and rethinking things quite a bit.

That said, like Dr. David Mantik's new book THE FINAL ANALYSIS, it is lengthy and highly clinical/technical, so it can leave the reader exhausted.

1 hour ago, Robert Morrow said:

What year did Bobby Hargis saw this? Was it before or after the Roscoe White story became a hot news item?

Not sure but it was definitely after the media splash. I am thinking early 2000's.

45 minutes ago, Steven Kossor said:

The video provides a selective reporting of the Sibert & O'Neil report.  The actual quote in the Sibert & O'Neil report is "surgery of the head area, namely in the top of the skull."  By editing the presentation to exclude the boldface words, it made it appear that the "surgery of the head area" was not specifically in the top of the skull (where the surgery evidence actually appeared), but rather that the statement was referring to the triangular incision above the right eye.  This is not scholarship; it is shameful propaganda.

Yes- that is NOVA and Walter Cronkite circa 1988.

26 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:

Thank you, Vince. I have closely studied an earlier much longer version of this video and frequently quote therefrom (with proper attribution, of course). You've accumulated a great deal of very important evidence during your career which has greatly benefited the research community. I post directly below some of my favorite and most frequently used examples of that evidence as a tribute to your work:

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Chapter Ten of 'HONEST ANSWERS ABOUT THE MURDER OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY' by Vince Palamara (Courtesy of Vince Palamara)

"Master List of Witnesses Who Stated That the Limousine Slowed or Stopped – A Deadly Delay on Elm Street"

"The following is a complete listing, the largest one ever compiled, of every single witness I could find – over 70 in all – who stated that the limousine either slowed down or stopped. This deadly delay on Elm Street was Secret Service agent Bill Greer’s fault, pure and simple; he was the limousine driver. As even lone-nut authors agree, Greer’s inept driving of the limo during the shooting allowed the assassination to be a tragic success...."

 

LINK TO PDF OF CHAPTER TEN: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AnVVyr2Qcdy-gccV7bF_4Je5GuEYaA?e=E6b8Ay

LINK TO POST OF CHAPTER TEN: https://www.facebook.com/groups/political assassinations researchhgroup/posts/5063457320376963/

 

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VINCE PALAMARA INTERVIEWS OF SAMUEL KINNEY

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VINCE PALAMARA'S NOTES FROM DR. ROBERT MCCLELLAND

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VINCE PALAMARA'S DR. PAUL PETERS VIDEO ON THE "INCISION"

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EXCERPT OF VINCE PALAMARA INTERVIEW OF AUBREY RIKE

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VINCE PALAMARA VIDEO OF PAUL LANDIS

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1995 COPA CONFERENCE AT WHICH ANDY PURDY AND MICHAEL BADEN WERE CONFRONTED WITH THE HSCA'S BOH FRAUD

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VINCE PALAMARA'S WORK REGARDING DR. WILLIAM ZEDLITZ

 

 

Thanks!

7 minutes ago, Denny Zartman said:

Good work, @Vince Palamara .

 

You know I HAD to make a video!

6 minutes ago, Denny Zartman said:

Good work, @Vince Palamara .

 

Thanks!

Dedicated to both @Keven Hofeling and @Pat Speer

Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Everyone seemed to miss this when it aired in 1988 and for many years afterward. @Pat Speer dedicated to you, Pat.

6 hours ago, Denis Morissette said:

Not Bev. I doubt it is Geneva. 

Thanks!

3 minutes ago, Denny Zartman said:

I understand having concerns about the cables.

I don't think the diary disappearing is suspicious. If it were real, it certainly would have been something conspirators would want to conceal. The story of the emergency plane landing is documented and certainly appears consistent with the FBI looking for items in Ricky's possession.

The scrapbook, I have to disagree with you on. I respect you and your work tremendously, and I'm very interested in your opinions on Roscoe White. But in my view the scrapbook is weird, and there's something about it that I don't think a person faking it would have added. I'll try to elaborate with an example in a separate post.

Well, there is hope for me yet, as you won me over with the Hargis video!

Just now, Denny Zartman said:

I understand having concerns about the cables.

I don't think the diary disappearing is suspicious. If it were real, it certainly would have been something conspirators would want to conceal. The story of the emergency plane landing is documented and certainly appears consistent with the FBI looking for items in Ricky's possession.

The scrapbook, I have to disagree with you on. I respect you and your work tremendously, and I'm very interested in your opinions on Roscoe White. But in my view the scrapbook is weird, and there's something about it that I don't think a person faking it would have added. I'll try to elaborate with an example in a separate post.

You can see how, circa 1990, many smelled a rat: a huge media explosion, then no diary. Cables that many thought seem fake. Geneva appearing to be looking for a payday. Beverly Oliver and Gerry Hemming coming out of the woodwork saying they knew Roscoe. Then Ricky disappears for 30-plus years.

2 minutes ago, Denny Zartman said:

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ok---I will concede that this is impressive. @Denny Zartman I am impressed that someone of Hargis' credibility says this on video, as opposed to having to rely on someone vouching for him saying this.

1 minute ago, Denny Zartman said:

Sorry, I was just about to correct that.

No problem

The cables just reek of fakery, the scrapbook is a big nothing and it is TOO convenient that the diary disappeared.

ALSO--Beverly Oliver and Gerry Patrick Hemming knowing Roscoe White does the Roscoe White story no favors LOL! [Hemming is mentioned by Paul Hoch in his newsletter Echoes of Conspiracy as being someone who was saying "oh yeah--I knew Roscie"]

Just now, Denny Zartman said:

Well, there was another diary produced after the first one disappeared, but it was immediately dismissed as a fake produced by Geneva. As I understand it, Ricky was the one who I.D'd this second diary as a fake. Wouldn't that argue for his honesty, rather than against it?

And there are other aspects besides Roscoe's link to Oswald, Geneva's link to Ruby, and Roscoe's possession of a heretofore unknown third backyard picture.

There's the high powered radio transmitter/receiver and hundreds of spent rifle shells found in Texas near the Mexico border, a place the White family had visited.

There's also Roger Craig saying he saw Roscoe on the grassy knoll just after the assassination. I believe this is a important piece of evidence and I'm not sure why people are going out of their way to ignore it. It's also supported by the observations of Ed Hoffman, who reported seeing a man in a policeman's uniform behind the fence on the grassy knoll.

Bobby Hargis, not Roger Craig. Is there a video/documented proof that Hargis said this? If so, I will concede that this is impressive.

Hoffman? Hmmmm- never bought his story.

@Denis Morissette Is that black and white photo above Geneva White? Beverly Oliver? Someone else?

THIS is how good Mantik's book is selling: 

Also- the Admitted Assassin book makes the claim that THIS photo is of Geneva White, Roscoe's wife- is it? Actually, I always thought it was Beverly Oliver [19 H 42]:

I hate to be negative toward any (pro-conspiracy) author trying their best out there (and I have big respect for Gary Shaw and Brian Edwards), but their attempt to rehabilitate the (yikes) Roscoe White story is, with all due respect, an epic fail. Ricky White is back from the pre-internet "dead" and is back with a pretty lame 'scrapbook' that is really much ado about nothing---a bunch of unintelligible scribbles and some pretty nothing-special newspaper cut outs. Quite frankly, my first thought was "Hmmm- how do we know this wasn't RICKY or GENEVA trying to put something together to 'replace' the conveniently stolen-by-the-FBI "diary." The book kind of feels like good ole Texas boys sticking up for their friend, who they say is a good "family man" who wouldn't make stuff up.

I WILL concede these points- it is intriguing that Roscoe joined the Dallas Police Department in October 1963 [he is even mentioned in the Warren Commission volumes: 19 H 148], his wife Geneva worked for Ruby (and there is a photo of them together), and the third backyard photo (as noted by the HSCA) was in the hands of Geneva/Roscoe. However, just as Beverly Oliver (NOT the Babushka Lady) was definitely a stripper at the Ruby-rival Colony Club (captioned photos of her from the night of 11/22/63 at the Colony Club are on the Sixth Floor Museum website via the Dallas Times Herald), these kernels of truth do not vouch for the rest of the tale(s).

In addition to the conveniently-missing diary, the so-called cables reek of fakery (sorry). "Mandarin"...yeah, right.

As for Dr. Mantik's latest book, it is a best-seller and selling like wildfire! It is also his very best (in fact, you don't even need his other two, as everything good from those books is included herein):

***ALEX HARRIS DISCOVERED THIS*** Please subscribe to his channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thejfktheorist1122 ***Alex gave me permission to upload this*** "Hello Vince, I don’t mind if you post the full Dr. Perry video again." Alex Harris, 4/8/24. Alex is a fantastic researcher! Amazing for someone so young, too!

21 minutes ago, Michael Crane said:

Well,I have been away from the forum and did not know that.

Thanks for reposting Vince.I find this a big deal.

My pleasure.