Vince Palamara

Nope: that is Secret Service agent Don Lawton.

Berger differentiated between the CIA agent and the FBI agent. The FBI agent turned out to be Doyle Williams, the same man who was used in the Warren Commission re-enactments, sitting in the follow-up car (used as "the limousine") and wearing Connally's jacket!

it could very well be that Berger did not feel comfortable in revealing the specific identity of the agent in his report (or was told not to)

Ok, I am not usually big on photo analysis and interpretation, but that looks like him (then)!

As evidence of other unlikely unions, connections, and locations: RFK riding in the same limousine his brother was assassinated in...with LBJ

You can frame that, Anthony! FINALLY somebody gets it! The people I spoke to informally at the conference this past November were either oblivious to JVB or didn't care. They saw this as a JFK assassination conference; period, end of story. They didn't view this as "you are now under her spell and your attendance equates to a loyalty oath" haha! Geez Louise... Many people I spoke to never read her book (!) and only knew her as a nice lady who puts on an entertaining conference--these were the unknown, non-researcher attendees I chatted with (quite a few in four days). As for the seasoned authors and researchers (name people) I spoke to, the clear feeling conveyed to me was that this was a forum located in Dallas, the site of the JFK assassination, in which they could give their lecture and perhaps sell some of their books. You know what people were REALLY excited about? Going to Dealey Plaza and SOCIALIZING WITH OTHERS! NETWORKING! To the point where many CAPA folks intermingled with "us" on the knoll and elsewhere.

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Are people going to disassociate themselves from John Newman and all the CAPA people who attended/ are attending her (future) conferences? If so, that would be a damn shame and their loss: John is brilliant. Heck, he could even attend a James "I am not in any" Files conference and I would just say "tsk task" and move on.

You make some good points, Rob. Trust me-I fully "get" what you all are saying. I look at it this way: my publisher, Kris Millegan of Trine Day, invited me to be a speaker for this past November conference; I accepted. I am a Trine Day author. I wasn't invited to CAPA. Like I said above (and elsewhere), if you were a fly on the wall, you would definitely have the impression that this was a TRINE DAY conference--no photos of Judyth are anywhere to be found, no loyalty oaths are given, and, with so many (CAPA BOARD MEMBERS AND BOARD OF ADVISORS!!!) luminaries attending (Newman, the two Wechts, etc.), pretty soon there won't be anyone left to "safely" follow. As someone who "lived through" the Lancer/COPA feud of 1993-2000ish, I can tell you, WITH A STRAIGHT FACE, the bad feelings toward Deb Conway were identical to Judyth; it is what it is (and I mean to cast no aspersions toward dear Deb-just telling you what I saw, read and heard multiple times during this era): "this woman came out of nowhere! WHO is she?!? She is only in it for the money! I never heard of her until 1995! I think she is CIA! SHE IS TRYING TO CO-OPT COPA AND THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" Sounds eerily familiar?

She also appears near the beginning of Judyth's appearance on THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY.

I like your ideas

Jump to search David Harold "Dry Hole" Byrd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Harold_Byrd In the 1930s he purchased the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, scene of the 1963 assassination of John F. Kennedy. CIA Charles Briggs https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Charles_A._Briggs https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/washingtonpost/obituary.aspx?pid=176359949 A notable contribution was serving as liaison for the creation of the Sixth Floor Museum in Dallas, TX dedicated to the JFK Assassination. He served five years as Chairman of the Board for the Central Intelligence Retirement Association (CIRA) and also four years as Chairman of the Board for the Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO). In 1999 he was awarded the distinguished David Atlee Philips Founder's Award by AFIO for sustained and exceptional contributions. In response to a query about Briggs’s role in the creation of museum, spokesperson Megan Bryant wrote in email: “The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza was saddened to learn of the passing of Charles A. Briggs, Sr. In the late 1980s, Mr. Briggs, during his retirement, worked part-time for about a year in the Washington, D.C. offices of noted museum exhibition design specialists, Robert Staples and Barbara Fahs Charles, as a researcher and writer. A well-respected member of the Staples & Charles team, Briggs along with his research partner, Abigail Porter, assisted in the development of The Sixth Floor exhibition, John F. Kennedy and the Memory of a Nation. Briggs contributions are still evident and continue to be appreciated by Museum visitors today

Very cool idea! It's funny--despite all the hard feelings from some, the number of attendees at both conferences this past fall is about on par with the 1990's conferences I attended: 150 or so people. Back in 1999, Deb was the one a lot of people were weary of (it is what it is, right or wrong). 20 years later, it is someone else.

I agree, by and large, with a lot of what you say. I guess I am thinking about a few people who make statements like "no one associated with CAPA should be caught dead near her conference!" Epic fail---several board members are! And Walt, perhaps Judyth's number one critic, doesn't mind the publisher association. No biggie to me, but some would say "ewww-why publish on 'her' label?"

As I also noted in prior posts/comments (in response to Pat Speer's curiosity on the matter), no one took a loyalty oath at Judyth's conference...in fact, no one I spoke to even thought of it as her conference anyway! Trine Day publisher Kris Millegan was much more out front and vocal. Coupled with so many Trine Day authors, it felt like a Trine Day conference...and, judging by the reaction of the attendees, I don't think they give a *&% about all of this stuff: they were there to hear the speakers. And, again- I saw and heard a LOT of co-mingling on the knoll/plaza between CAPA conference attendees and Judyth/Trine Day attendees...no one seemed bothered there, either.

I agree--it is silly for CAPA to fold. Keep going! I only pointed out Walt Brown and the board members of CAPA who speak/attend Judyth's conference to note the hypocrisy inherent in their association: if they were so up in arms about Judyth, why the association? As I pointed out before, I vividly remember (in those pre-social media days) the outrage over Deb and her JFK Lancer: "she's a spy! She came out of nowhere!! Oh my God- she has co-opted so many authors! Why would COPA speakers speak at her conferences?!?!?" Now she bonded with COPA to form CAPA and that is all a very inconvenient distant memory now.

Wait a minute, wait a minute...haha...what is going on here?! I just did more "digging" and found these from the official CAPA website: https://capa-us.org/boards/ CAPA BOARD MEMBERS Tanenbaum, Newman, Cyril Wecht, son Ben Wecht, Bolden, and Benson who have all spoken at Judyth's conferences! In fact, Randy Benson was in charge of filming the entire Judyth/Trine Day conference: he was there for the entire thing filming away! I am confused at the outrage of CAPA now!

Hmmm...more of Walt Brown with Trine Day: https://www.amazon.com/Other-Oswald-Wilderness-Mirrors/dp/1634242807/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1579569546&refinements=p_27%3AWalt+Brown&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Walt+Brown Paperback: 384 pages Publisher: Trine Day; None edition (April 15, 2020) Language: English ISBN-10: 1634242807 ISBN-13: 978-1634242806 Product Dimensions: 6 x 9 inches There are two JFK assassination publishers: Trine Day and Skyhorse; that's it, folks. There are two JFK assassination conferences: Judyth/Trine Day and CAPA; that's it, folks.

And why would Walt, a vociferous foe of Judyth, have a book published by her very same publisher? Because of what I said above: "The hour is way late and the choices are very few."

See the post Lancer Dead, COPA Dead, Now CAPA?

Wow. I knew (from seeing it firsthand) that the Stone/Judyth meeting was going to be huge news, but I didn't think it would come to this. Authors Dick Russell, John Newman, Robert Groden, Cyril Wecht, Mel Hyman, Robert Tanenbaum, etc. etc. etc. speak at her conferences. Being that there are only two conferences on the planet, our choices are narrow. I did see quite a few CAPA folks smiling and intermingling with people from the "other" conference on the knoll during the ceremony. The public at large doesn't know or care about any of this infighting and so forth. The hour is way late and the choices are very few. Gone are A.S.K. , COPA, Lancer, Jerry Rose's Third and Fourth Decades conferences, the Midwest Conferences of the 1990's, etc. Ironically, even Walt Brown, a former COPA board member who wrote a book against Judyth, is a TRINE DAY author! Oops... Product details Paperback Publisher: Trine Day (1831) ASIN: B01FIZESVS https://www.amazon.com/Mickey-Mantle-Murder-Brown-2015-07-01/dp/B01FIZESVS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=walt+brown+mickey+mantle&qid=1579568282&s=books&sr=1-1 Product details Paperback Publisher: Trine Day (1831) ASIN: B01FIZESVS

Thanks! I discovered/ "popularized" this back in the early 1990's and noted it in my first book.

I would think a fair amount did have some form of credentials to present to authorities and so forth if they had to. I think you are over-analyzing the language there, my friend. He was unidentified UNTIL he produced his credentials. The agent who wrote the report, Andy Berger, is long gone, so we probably will never know any more than we do know on this.

Fascinating, is it not? I think it would be interesting to see what Colonel Bishop looked like back then. There is a photo of Hudgins/ Howell in Bill Sloan's 1993 book JFK: Breaking The Silence and we can rule him out as the mystery man in the shades.