David Andrews

Thanks, Robert.

1 minute ago, Sandy Larsen said:

Here's Robert's list:

 

Thanks, Sandy,

6 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

In the comparative photos above of Shelley in Dealey Plaza being escorted down to the Dallas PD ( or Sheriffs office?) just minutes after JFK was shot and the one's of a look-alike man standing with Lee Harvey Oswald's New Orleans flyer passing crew in August of 63, I just became aware of the uncanny similarity of the shoes worn by both men.

Same exact style, length, width, color, etc.

Check out each man's right foot shoe. See for yourself. 

And the time frame of the photos was only3 months apart.

You can see Danny Arce's long raincoat in your second pic above.  If Oswald had worn such a thing that day...who would need a curtain rod story?

From the original Lansdale hypothesis post, Prouty:

[Lansdale] knew the "Protection" units and the "Secret Service", who was needed and who wasn't. Those were routine calls for him, and they would have believed him.

Given Lansdale's jobs and the associations he would have made therein, why would this be so?

8 hours ago, Michael Crane said:

OMG I had to do some searching.

It's not the same list & is a mega FRAT.

I will not attempt to use paragraphs.

On your mark...

Get set...

Go! 

The men who murdered President of the United States John Fitzgerald Kennedy [...]

 

Michael, is this another version of Robert's list, or someone else's list?

I'm surprised not to see Bill Shelley or Danny Arce on it, the latter in his long, rifle-concealing, raincoat.

In the fireteam section, what method or information was used to pair the shooters with specific weapons?

One question we never consider: could Oswald (CAP cadet, Ferry protege, Atsugi operator) fly a prop plane?  Might be useful to know.  Garrison was a pilot, but we never hear about Oswald's capabilities from him.

Well, how could Ruby predict Oz would take the dogleg off North Beckley over to 10th and Patton?

Unless Oz was told to expect a car pickup near that location, with Texas Theater the default.  But - tradecraft be damned - if someone told me that the day before, I'd go another way to the default, especially if I'd been told DPD would be picking me up.  Better to be just another working stiff at lunch, walking in the crowds of tragedy-distracted people on Jefferson Blvd.

Calvin, in one of the videos by Daniel Sheehan linked below (so sorry, I didn't catch which, or the timestamp), Sheehan discusses a written resolution to attach and preserve world industrial materials for the US and her allies.

In the color autopsy photo shown, the frontal right hairline wound looks like it has already been dissected, with angular flaps retracted.  The photo may show a midpoint in the autopsy between dissection of the front wound and any addressing of the rear wound.

We're seeing discrepancies between this set of color photos, the "Stare of Death" wound photo, and the officially released autopsy photos.

@5:38 - interesting back/shoulder shot of JFK, for suit jacket comparison.

What is the actual name of the withdrawn Facebook video?  In case one wanted to hunt.

I've always looked on the JFKA as a centrist act, where interests coalesced, only some of them politically right-wing.

Thanks, Pat.  One wonders why the right side looks intact in the "Stare of Death" autopsy table photos.

I've always been confounded that, at Parkland, no note was made of a blow-out detaching skull from the temporal and front parietal areas, resembling the "flap" in Zapruder and shown in the autopsy photograph taken from the rear.  (The only autopsy photo to show the "flap"; the right side is intact in others.)

You'd believe that brain tissue loss there would have been recorded at Parkland, and that the sight would have been visual proof of mortality to ER staff, thus memorable.  What was up at Parkland?  Is the "flap" in any witness recollections?

I'm thinking that driving a car accident victim to a hospital was, by law or custom, a Texas form of due diligence meant to ward off Hit-and-Run charges if no policeman was summoned.  Imagine thousands of miles of unpoliced, rural Texas highway - you'd be expected to take someone you hit out there to a hospital.  "Nick" would have been a stand-in for Jada at the hospital, and a witness that the driver saw after the victim's welfare.  He might have slipped the vic a couple twenties on the way.

Why do the heathen rage?...

"A far mean streak of independence brought on by negleck" (neglect).  Did Oz write that about himself, or did Howard Hunt or David Atlee Phillips ghostwrite it, casting Oz in the resourceful loner role, the World Historical Individual shaded somewhere between Davy Crockett and Charles Starkweather?

I've read those guys.  I'm not sure they're were that expressive as fictionneurs.

1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

How did they fixate on Ergot mold, the original source of LSD?

 

Ergotism, or ergot poisoning producing hallucinogenic effects, was well known in Middle Ages Europe and in other periods and places, determined by deduction (and experiment?) in the days before lab analysis.  That's one reason why Sandoz chemists turned up their noses at testing grain: they were ergot snobs, they'd been around the block with rye ergot and now were holding instead The Real Junk (as Lux Interior once put it).

Maybe Wisner aerosolized it over France figuring that, historically, the source would be pegged at natural grain corruption.  Among the medieval Euro-maladies blamed on Ergotism were religious mania, witch persecution, pilgrimages of flagellantes, etc.  If sex were involved - it was the devil's work.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6640538/

"Ergotism is thought to have occurred in ancient times (de Costa, 2002; van Dongen and de Groot, 1995), but had its peak level in Europe in the Middle Ages when the disease affected many thousands of people. A monastic order especially cared for the afflicted, the patron saint of which was St. Anthony (Fig. 1). The malady itself was known at that time as ignis sacer (holy fire), or St. Anthony's Fire, because of the burning sensations in the limbs (Matossian, 1989).

"The first well‐documented epidemic of ergotism was in ad 944–945, when about 20,000 people living in Paris and the Aquitane region of France, at that time about one‐half of the population, died of the effects of ergot poisoning (Matossian, 1989; Schiff, 2006). Matossian (1989) also speculates that the slow recovery after the plague epidemics in Europe in the 14th century was at least partly caused by reduced fertility as a result of ergot toxifications. Ergot poisoning is nowadays widely believed to have influenced social history, such as the witch trials of Salem and in Norway during the 17th century (Alm, 2003; Caporael, 1976) and even mystic religious movements (Packer, 1998). Already in the late 16th and beginning of the 17th centuries, observations of the link between ergot‐contaminated rye and disease were made (Bauer, 1973), but it was not until the 19th century that the mycologist Louis Rene Tulasne revealed the correlation between infected rye and ergotism (Tulasne, 1853). This led to increased efforts to reduce ergot contamination in rye (for example, by flotation of seeds to remove sclerotia); therefore the occurrence of larger epidemics became rare. The most recent epidemic in Germany occurred in 1879–1881; however, there have been more recent epidemics in parts of Russia (1926–1927) (Barger, 1931; Eadie, 2003) and Ethiopia (1977–1978) (Urga et al., 2002), and, in India, outbreaks continued until the late 20th century (Tulpule and Bhat, 1978)."

A belated Merry Christmas to all, with fondness for some who are no longer here.  Let's encourage peace on earth.

On 12/17/2023 at 3:03 PM, Paul Brancato said:

How does one rectify this account with all the witnesses to the event, none of whom recall as far as I know shots from the front? There was no crowd around Lennon, as there was around RFK. It doesn’t make sense that the doorman was shooting. So who shot Lennon in the chest? 

What broke the glass on the vestibule door to the security office that Lennon entered seeking help?

Are you damn sure he's dead?

10 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Dave:

Nice to hear from you.

I think what you are saying is essentially what Morley's thesis was in Scorpion's Dance.

 

I have the Morley, but haven't opened it yet.

Nixon strikes me as a guilty trickster without an institution behind him (as fit his self-designed loner image), while Helms possessed the institution.  Who wins this Batman-vs.-Superman fight?

5 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

I have long wondered if Nixon's insistence at wanting to see the "BoP files" played a role in his demise.

I've wondered if Nixon's own paranoia of dirty tricks, including fear of his own assassination, brought on his examination of what CIA had been up to, and the adversarial climate created brought on Watergate.

"The other thing I should add is I was always of the school of thought that there probably was a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy," Knott told Fox Digital. "I'm no longer in that camp. I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and that the evidence against Oswald is pretty damning. So I'm not of the school of thought that buys into some conspiracy." 

Everybody made sure that got into the last para.  Would have made it the lede, if they could.

Mainstream newspapers, challenged by the internet, illiteracy and apathy, could make a good buck turning coat and telling some historical truth.  Is something overpowering holding them back?

Anniversary article in The Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/18/jfk-assassination-dallas-legacy-political-conspiracy-extremism

"Dubbed ‘city of hate’ after the 1963 killing, the Texas metropolis has largely moved on but the forces that brought death to Dealey Plaza are arguably more prevalent than ever "