David Andrews

15 minutes ago, Paul Rigby said:

Good to be reminded of Oglesby's piece.

Also well worth a look is Barbara Morris Freed's chapter on Flight 553 within the Steve Weissman-edited anthology Big Brother and the Holding Company: The World Behind Watergate (Ramparts Press, 1974):

https://archive.org/details/bigbrotherholdi00weis/page/n5/mode/2up

 

Thanks!

Carl Oglesby on the Dorothy Hunt crash.  Sorry, no transcript.

https://aadl.org/node/195839

Is this a disposition list for operations supplied over several years?  That may account for the variety of rifle calibers.  The 7.92 may have been an unusual weapon that was the only higher powered, untraceable rifle available at a particular time of requisition.

The office equipment may have been for the field office that generated the report.

Pedantry: The alternative to a ballistic water tank at the time was a long box of cotton wadding, separated into segments with paperboard dividers.  Once the gun was fired, you pulled the dividers until you found the one that wasn't penetrated, then you dug in the wadding ahead of it for the bullet.  Could be manufactured in the field from hardware store materials.

Question: Was the base of CE 399 flattened because it was a hand-loaded round?  Was that defect common in fired factory-loaded rifle rounds?

10 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Roger Stone wrote the absolute worst book I have purchased in the past decade-- Nixon's Secrets-- but I have to disagree with the skeptics on this one.

I find it hard to believe that even Roger Stone -- or Tucker Carlson-- would make up a story this big.

So, I'm voting for, YES, Trump saw some classified JFK files that "were so horrible (you) wouldn't believe it."

But what were they?  That LBJ and the Joint Chiefs were in on the murder plot, with Dulles and the CIA?

Repurposed old Hollywood joke:

Trump: "Nice book.  Who wrote it for you?"

Stone: "Glad you liked.  Who read it to you?"

Would Trump have taken the time to read the materials?

Would he understand what he read?  Any of us are more qualified.

Would CIA have dummy documents, with apocalyptic revelations, prepared to deceive a troublesome POTUS?  A spurious executive summary or two?

Maybe they showed him Howard Hunt's deathbed confession.

True, but Meyer was the conspirator du jour at the time, as was LBJ.  Somehow, they ended up with a causal link in Hunt's statement.

Joe, just on Cord Meyer: Meyer was discussed here on the Forum extensively in the couple years before Hunt's deathbed statement.  Once I was hipped to him, I began to see him discussed on other websites, high and low. It's not impossible Meyer filtered out to the wider internet from here.

When Hunt released his statement, I felt that he - or he and someone - had combed the internet for those currently regarded as hot conspirators (LBJ, too, at the time), and they were bundled into Hunt's statement.

Thanks for this, Paul and Robert.

We'd call this unusual if it weren't so...usual.  Salon.com has been running, almost exclusively, features on how RFK, Jr., is "bad for democracy."  Usually re: the anti-vaxx theme.

Here's the latest:

https://www.salon.com/2023/06/30/rfk-jr-spreads-bigotry-against-autistic-people--and-autistic-people-arent-taking-it-anymore/

Is left-wing in Huntley code for the civil rights movement?  That's as left as it got.

The video made me remember that as a little kid, I preferred Huntley and Brinkley to the other network anchormen.

There was once an argument cited that disassembling a rifle not designed for it ruins the accuracy for the next firing.  Albeit that it's the "humane" Carcano...does that argument apply?

If so, could Oz have re-calibrated the scope on the sixth floor without test firings?

50 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

And the significance of this is... what, exactly?

Why not disassemble it for target practice, since these target practice events temporally occur within a series of occasions when Oswald is said to have disassembled the rifle, including 11-22-63?  Why break form, when the target events each represent the longest time length when Oswald's rifle was carried in public?  Ten minutes to take it into the TSBD, but perhaps an hour each time to get it to and from Love Field? 

A crucial ten minutes for concealment, yes, but no concealment concerns for an hour each on more than one target practice occasion.  Doesn't prove the rifle wasn't bagged on 11-22, but a claimed procedural mismatch for Oz that deserves note.

On 6/20/2023 at 11:41 PM, Matt Allison said:

David- I am genuinely curious to how you would answer the questions I posed above:

"The rifle would have had to have been packed and unpacked several times; the original trip to New Orleans in Spring of '63, and then once again upon return to Texas in September of '63.

Do we assume it was taken apart and transported in pieces? If so, what were the pieces carried in?

And what is the evidence of such?"

To bring up a procedural mismatch that I noted before:

Marina claimed that Oswald took the rifle through the streets of Dallas and onto buses for target practice, full-length and concealed under a raincoat.

Yet other witnesses caused the WC to infer that Oswald disassembled the rifle and brought it up to the TSBD sixth floor in a paper sack.

9 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Mockingbird is being run by the CIA's Public Affairs agency.

Back in the nineties there was a partly declassified CIA document that said they have excellent connections with every major news agency.

Then followed some examples, that part was classified.

Thanks, Jim.

Let's have a contest where we rename Mockingbird for our modern age.

The new title might mock current news technology, in a Black Mirror sort of way.

Who runs the modern equivalent of Mockingbird at CIA?  Is it the National Resources division?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Resources_Division

RFK Jr.'s poll numbers are said to mean that because he's less known, he's less hated.  Though not in the MSM, which seeks a level field:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/06/14/robert-f-kennedy-jr-tops-biden-trump-in-new-favorability-poll/?sh=215c41243958

As always, Ron - I am the threadkiller non pareil.

1 hour ago, Pete Mellor said:

Which could positively be stated as not factual.

Syntax first, facts later.😎

Marie Claire, btw, is a fashion magazine that's here licensing its name and logo to celebrity clickbait creators, through the syndicate which owns Marie Claire and some arm of msn.com that creates the clickbait.  So, MSM all the way, maybe all in-house under one conglomerate.

Can this assertion be disproven?

John Sent Jackie to Have Electroshock Therapy

Text courtesy of AI in slipshod idiom: "His brother John had just received a medal commemorating his service in the war, which could possibly have influenced Joe to engage in an attempt to gain commemoration of his own."

Sorry if I missed this along the path, but what characters are Pacino, Travolta and Mortensen playing in Assassination ?  There doesn't seem to be a likely Sam Flood* in the bunch.  (A couple of Yosemite Sams, maybe.)  Info not available on IMDb.

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*Any thoughts on why Giancana chose that ominously antediluvean cognomen?

3 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

It is a shame to lose it.

Robert's really Banksy, right?  Ever seen together?

Ah, now I remember GPIDEAL!  Thanks.  Is there a list of crypts for later presidents?

Also, is KUBARK for CIA still current?  It's available through so many document releases that you would think not.  What do they use now?

Is Robert posting/writing elsewhere online?  I'd like to see it.

In CIA documents, are individual US presidents referred to by cryptonyms?  (Kennedy, Johnson, e. g., as opposed to a crypt for POTUS)

If so, is there a handy list of former presidents' cryptonyms available?