David Andrews
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Pat Speer quoted here in the Morrow Connally materials, on what points Connally insisted on:
1. Connally's initial belief was that the first two shots--the ones he was later told were fired by Oswald using a bolt-action rifle--were extremely close together--and were fired by an automatic weapon.
Interesting, considering the Z-film suggests that there was enough time to cycle and aim a bolt-action rifle between the two shots Connally describes (the neck wound and the Connally torso hit).
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Did Northwoods never go into action because the plan was too complicated and wordy? Wow.
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4 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:
There are two such pocket stripes on each side of Jackie's suit jacket.
(Nice try, though.)
I can't be blamed for bad style.
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14 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:
It hasn't migrated anywhere. It's just part of the jacket.
Nice try, but you can see above the puppet the navy pocket stripe that otherwise might be mistaken for Lambchop's eye slits.
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6 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:
What you've got circled there is part of Jackie's wool suit jacket.
That form-fitting pink wool Chanel number couldn't migrate over to the seat between them unless it were unbuttoned.
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1 hour ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said:
Nah, it's Lambchop, not part of the bouquet as seen at Love Field. Notice the "little dog" is between them, as Jean said.
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The Umbrella Man filmmakers did the best they could with the budget and support they had, including in the casting. I liked the film, though it takes a sense of humor about researchers. It even presents a theory about a particular frame of the Z-film where JFK is wounded. Follow link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0h-oO1DZXA
It speaks to the subject matter to know that these guys never made another film, try as hard as they did to establish themselves here.
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From 08:50 forward in this clip, some unusual JFK, Oswald and Ruby items, authenticity nonspecific:
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Audio (and some video) of Garrison's appearance on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson:
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On 8/8/2022 at 6:55 PM, Joseph McBride said:
The late David McCullough was a Skull & Bones member who practiced deceit in his books on Adams and Truman. A rather shameful figure. McCullough justified Truman's dropping of the two atomic bombs and distorted history to do so, as well as ignoring recent scholarship on why the bombs were not necessary in ending the war. He also was the keynote speaker at Dallas's 50th anniversary commemoration of the JFK assassination -- behind police lines, holding back dissidents, including me -- and never mentioned the assassination. He just gave a dull, anodyne recital of some of JFK's famous quotes. McCullough was a thoroughly establishment figure whose eminence came from his willingness to prop up America's official mythology.
https://hnn.us/articles/157.html
http://mobylives.com/Nobile_Pulitzer_speech.html
What's the beef with the Adams book? Slavery?
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1 hour ago, Michael Davidson said:
Ever heard of missionaries ? Empire ? White mans burden ? Thats what its referring to
It was American neocolonialism, and America supporting the neocolonialism of its allies, such as Belgium and anti-Gaulleist France, as Michael says. That, cloaked in the guise of Christian "improvement" of native cultures, was what was missing in the "Christian background" elision by the interview subject, Mr. Griffith. As the film shows in other ways, it was what JFK and Gullion opposed.
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1 hour ago, Allen Lowe said:
I’m sorry but that makes no sense because if they had destroyed it they never would’ve had to release it.
...And they're going to convince Time Life, which acquired the film, to surrender it, losing newsstand sales and ad revenues? There was a budget to compensate Henry Luce for that? Seems a naive, and monolithic, view of the culture of the times. The stills were used to bolster the shot-from-behind story; the film (whatever you believe it to be) did not emerge to be argued over for another dozen years.
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18 hours ago, Allen Lowe said:
Instead of cutting a few frames or some other nonexistent alteration, they would simply have destroyed the film.
I'm thinking the involvement of Time Life, a major corp, propaganda outlet, and otherwise CIA cooperator, meant they had to be paid off with Zapruder frame stills. It wasn't until 1975 that the powers had to contend with a release of the altered original.
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8 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
Fact: They're better Americans than he is.
I don't doubt, but that's the third Agency-connected figure to undermine Trump in media in as many days. How many have gone uncounted?
Maybe it's like being tailed: the fact that you're seeing them at all is meant to send a message.
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More hate for Trump from CIA mouthpieces on TV:
[EDIT: Sorry - Ron B beat me to the story, above.]
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CIA drops teases about Trump's execution, and not just through Hayden:
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4 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
A historical first. Not even our beloved Nixon had his house raided.
How did the Secret Service react?
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On 8/4/2022 at 8:59 PM, Pat Speer said:
Without getting into the sloppy details, I watched way too many Trump speeches, read too many articles about Trump and his minions, and talked with way too many of his supporters in my purple congressional district. And it can not be reasonably argued that Trump was merely anti-illegal immigration. He and his supporters were adamantly against all non-white and non-Christian immigrants and the whole concept of "Make America Great Again" was code for "Make America white and Christian again."
When one looks further at the meaning of the word "fascist" one should realize that this applies to Mr. Trump far and beyond that of most conservatives, and that it's actually quite appropriate. His wrapping himself in the flag...his enthusiasm for military parades...his vilification of the press...his demonization of his enemies...his refusal to concede an election...these are all plays from the fascist playbook.
Not to cross swords with you, Pat - but was/is Trump actually for or against anything? His rank opportunism always seems to deny a belief system. What he "supports" is in the interest of acquiring political capital among voters. We'd merely chide a less obvious climber - and a less dangerous one - for being a politician.
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View on Jan 6 from a JCOS insider: We were nearly a "banana republic":
https://www.salon.com/2022/07/05/gen-russel-honor-coup-attempt-put-us-in-the-banana-republic-club/
"...but you do need to understand that even Pence was questioning the intent of the Secret Service because he wouldn't get in that car."
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There goes the neighborhood.
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Thanks for the complete show, Vince. A hatchet job worthy of Lizzie Borden.
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11 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
This is interesting is it not?
I wonder why at this time? Was it because of the Hammarskjold inquiry.
The Belgian royals have been sucking up to their former colony for public relations and trade advantages, in the way Prince William and wife toured the Caribbean islands recently on behalf of the ailing HRH. But a documentary and news interviews are mentioned in the two Guardian stories:
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On 6/17/2022 at 2:16 AM, Pat Speer said:
Yes, that Smedley Butler was onto something... When I first got sucked into researching the Kennedy case I binge-bought several thousand books on history, politics, law, etc. And among these books were a number on the U.S.' special role in history. These books actually claimed the U.S. had a special role as described in the Bible and that it was our Christian duty to spread Capitalism (God's favorite economic system) to the world. I'm not kidding. This thinking was apparently quite commonplace among the richest fat cats all the way down to members of the local Rotary Club.
I remember, moreover, that several of these books singled out one American as the spiritual leader of the Christian Capitalist movement to conquer the world : John Foster Dulles.
"The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict [Battle of Waterloo], the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“'It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!' the London Observer reported in November 1822."
Personally, I desire Patrice Lumumba's gold tooth, mounted in an impressive reliquary, as the crowning ornament for my throne of skulls (see above). Right up there with Geronimo's skull looted for the Skull and Bones frat house.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/18/belgium-patrice-lumumba-gold-tooth-return
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In other news: Patrice Lumumba's teeth became mercenaries' souvenirs, and today are being bartered back to the Congolese.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/18/belgium-patrice-lumumba-gold-tooth-return
Belgium to return Patrice Lumumba’s gold tooth in bid to atone for colonial crimes
What Really Happened Between Marilyn Monroe and JFK?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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The movie omits the most sensational part of the book story, the ending, where an assassin dispatched by the White House murders Monroe.