David Von Pein

Pat, You know as well as I that just one bullet passed through Kennedy's body. If it didn't, then we'd have two bullets lodged in Kennedy's body. And, instead, there's ZERO. Why not just face the obvious fact that one bullet went clean through the President? And once you've admitted that obvious fact--the rest is easy....because that bullet that just exited John Kennedy's throat is now travelling straight toward a man who (just coincidentally?) also just happened to be hit with a bullet--in his back--during those 8 seconds in Dallas, Texas, on 11/22/63. A first-grader who flunked study hall and lunch period could figure this out. Why can't any conspiracy theorists manage to do it? ADDENDUM: Do you contend, Pat, that the location of the back wound in the "Cold Case" computer simulation shown below is significantly off when compared to the autopsy photo on the left? I don't see a large difference in the location of the wound. Plus, it appears as if the "Cold Case" simulation has JFK leaning a little bit backward in his seat, which I do not think is altogether accurate:

Vince P., I'm ashamed of you! How can you possibly not have seen my website where I've archived all 64 of JFK's press conferences in their entirety? My press conference site has been online since early 2011. These are in audio form (MP3) only, except for 4 conferences that are also available in video format, including the first conference on 1/25/61. Audio quality is excellent too. I've even tweaked the audio for some of the conferences, because the files made available in 2011 through the JFK Library website were (on occasion) a bit low in volume. So I turned it up a bit before saving them to my site. Here's the link: All of the conferences are also available on my YouTube channel at the link below (click the "Play All" button and you're good to go for 33 straight hours):

Hi Don, I, too, wonder why in the world Josiah Thompson participated in the "Cold Case JFK" broadcast? None of his commentary did anything at all to advance his conspiratorial beliefs. I wonder if half his stuff was cut out? Overall, the "Cold Case" program was pretty good, IMO. And I always find it interesting to take note of the fact that whenever one of these "forensic" type of analytical shows is done about the JFK case, the end result is always the same: The science always ends up supporting and buttressing the Single-Bullet Theory and the general idea that Lee Harvey Oswald could most certainly have pulled off the assassination by himself with that "crummy" $21 mail-order Mannlicher-Carcano. The same results were obtained in the very similar program aired in 2004, "JFK: Beyond The Magic Bullet". In short, science and forensics supports the "Lone Nut" and "Single-Bullet Theory" scenarios. Always has. Always will. Probably because if someone were to do that--while trying to stick to the facts of the case--their cartoon would end up looking as silly and unreasonable as a Road Runner cartoon. And I'm wondering why it is, Robert, that you aren't bothered at all (it would seem) by the complete lack of bullets in John Kennedy's body. Why is that? Am I supposed to just ignore the fact that President Kennedy had ZERO bullets in his body, which is a fact that destroys any theory that has JFK being struck in both the throat and upper back by separate bullets? Tell me why I should just assume that somebody dug some bullets out of Kennedy's body as a part of some "cover-up" after the assassination?

The video below shows some rather interesting color film footage of JFK's visit to San Antonio, Texas, on November 21, 1963, taken from the 2013 National Geographic program "JFK: The Final Hours". I think this San Antonio footage was the most fascinating part of the documentary. Except for the clips from Tom Atkins' film, I don't think I've seen most of this footage before. And it's in excellent shape too. It looks like it was filmed yesterday. And here's JFK's complete San Antonio speech: DVP-Potpourri.blogspot.com / JFK's Speech In San Antonio (11/21/63)

But the four Parkland doctors who went to the National Archives in 1988 certainly did no such thing. Because not one of them said anything like this after viewing the autopsy photos at the National Archives --- "I must have been wrong when I just earlier today told this PBS-TV audience that JFK had a big hole in the back of his head. Because after looking at those autopsy pictures, which do not show any large exit wound in the back of the head at all, I can see that the President's large head wound was more toward the front and the right side of his head--not in the back. Therefore, I'll have to admit that my original evaluation of the location of the large head wound has to be in error." Instead, we got these quotes from the Parkland doctors after they had just taken up to one full hour to examine the autopsy photos of President Kennedy: "I would have to say, honestly, in looking at these photos, they're pretty much as I remember President Kennedy at the time." -- Dr. Paul Peters [emphasis added by DVP] "I don't see evidence of any alteration of his wound in these pictures from what I saw in the emergency room." -- Dr. Richard Dulany "I find no discrepancy between the wounds as they're shown very vividly in these photographs and what I remember very vividly." -- Dr. Robert McClelland Which, of course, could only mean that Dr. McClelland must have seen a big hole in the back of JFK's head in the autopsy photographs. But we know he saw no such wound in the BACK of JFK's head in those photos. ~big shrug~ BTW, I'm not even sure the doctors saw the X-rays during their trip to the National Archives in 1988. It's not made clear via the NOVA/PBS program whether they saw just the photos or whether it was photos and X-rays too. But, of course, any of those doctors could have easily seen the X-rays in the HSCA volumes, which were published for the public to see nearly ten years earlier. And the X-rays don't show any large hole in the back part of Kennedy's head at all. More --- THE ODD TALES OF THE PARKLAND DOCTORS ON PBS-TV IN 1988

So now we've got an interesting situation involving Lt. J.C. Day of the DPD: He lifted Oswald's palmprint (CE637) off of the rifle (on 11/22/63, two days before Oswald was ever in the Dallas city morgue) -- but no conspiracy theorist believes that Lt. Day lifted any print off of the gun. And now some super sleuth examining pictures of the very rusty and deteriorated bullet shell casings claims that Oswald's right palmprint is on one of the shells -- but Lt. Day said he "did not find fingerprints" on any of the three shells. So, Day found something that CTers positively say WASN'T there at all. But he didn't find a print that WAS there? I find this quite humorous. 4 H 253 -----> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh4/html/WC_Vol4_0131a.htm There is also this from Lieutenant Day [at 4 H 257]..... DAVID W. BELIN -- "Could you tell us what exactly you did in testing those hulls for fingerprints?" LT. J.C. DAY -- "I used fingerprint powder, dusted them with the powder, a dark powder. No legible prints were found."

Lt. Carl Day of the DPD said this: "I processed these three hulls for fingerprints, using a powder. Mr. Sims picked them up by the ends and handed them to me. I processed each of the three; did not find fingerprints."

My hat goes off to Barry Krusch -- for actually being able to persuade someone at the Natl. Archives to photograph the 3 Sniper's Nest bullet shells for him [see above video]. Can just any Tom, Dick, or Barry pull that off and have the NA do something like that? That seems quite amazing to me. Anyway, from those recent pictures [seen in Barry's YouTube video], those shells look to be in mighty bad shape (i.e., rusty looking and all scratched to hell). I'm wondering also if some of the initials which are certainly on those shells just might be located on the INSIDE lip of each shell--much the same way some of the initials are located on the 4 Tippit murder shells (see Dale Myers' "With Malice", beginning on page 262 for photos of those)? Granted, the rifle shells look a bit narrow at the top, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of room to squeeze some writing on the inside--but I felt it worth mentioning. Plus, I'm wondering if the deterioration of the shells (which is quite obvious in Barry's NA pics) might be a reason for not being able to make out the markings which most certainly MUST be there. Do CTers think the cops went around switching evidence and then were just too damn lazy to scratch some letters into the "fake" shells? But most of the officers went ahead and testified anyway that they DID put their initials on those shells? Talk about dumb! Or lazy! That must take the cake. And that same argument applies to CE399 and Elmer Todd's initials too. Most CTers think Todd's initials are not on CE399 at all, even though Todd wrote up a report on 11/22/63 stating both he and Bob Frazier scratched their initials into the "nose of the bullet" on the night of Nov. 22 at the FBI lab. It's a "fake" bullet, per the CTers, but the goofs at the FBI couldn't manage to put their proper markings on it--even though they said they did? Crazy. Todd's initials are on that bullet as sure as anything. And I think all the proper markings are SOMEWHERE on those three SN shells too. To believe otherwise is to believe is mass fakery of the evidence in a Presidential murder case (which I do not believe for a second). And, as mentioned, we'd also have to believe that the FBI and/or DPD were the biggest boobs to ever come down Elm Street with a fake bullet shell -- by not simply scratching some initials into the "fake" shells when they easily could have done so in order to firm up that chain of custody they would certainly want those fake shells to have. BULLET SHELL ADDENDUM ---- This is from J.C. Day's affidavit about the shells (dated June 23, 1964)--- "Close examination with a magnifying glass under a good light disclosed that my name "Day" was on all three hulls, at the small end. Also GD for Captain George Doughty was on two of them. Commission numbers 543 and 544 were the first two sent to Washington on November 22, 1963. They have Doughty's initials where he marked the hulls as they were released to Vince Drain at 11:45 P.M. on November 22, 1963 by Doughty and Day. The third hull, commission number 545, does not have Doughty's mark, but is plainly marked "Day". In Washington, I had numbers 543 and 545 switched because I didn't find my name on number 543. I can identify commission numbers 543, 544, and 545 from my name on them, as the three hulls found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository on November 22, 1963." /s/ J.C. Day; 6/23/64 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/day2.htm David Von Pein October 20-21, 2013

http://www.pollingreport.com/news3.htm#Kennedy

Indeed he does. It would appear as if Mr. Ventura believes about every conspiracy myth ever to take flight. And with Ventura's book of fantasies now getting into the hands of many people (it's the 328th best-selling book on Amazon.com as of this writing on October 27, 2013), it looks like those tired CT myths will be recycled for a long time to come. The one about Oswald not being able to work the bolt on his Carcano fast enough to perform the Dallas shooting is always good for a large-sized laugh, especially when we see Ventura HIMSELF--a military man--pretending that it's the hardest chore imaginable. Ventura made three attempts on camera in a 2010 TruTV episode to duplicate Oswald's shooting performance (which Jesse said took LHO 6.3 seconds--a figure he made up from whole cloth, of course). In his first attempt, Jesse did everything he could to make firing his Carcano seem like it was more difficult than building the Pyramids, and as a result of this obvious stretched-out fakery, Jesse's first time was a ridiculous 11.17 seconds. jfk-archives.blogspot.com / A Bunch Of Crap From Jesse Ventura

Lisa Pease is wrong. .... "We directed that experiments be made with the rifle found on Nov. 22 on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building, and we also used the same type of ammunition as the cartridge cases found in that building. There were negative reactions on both hands and on the cheek of the FBI agent who fired the assassination weapon. Thus, we had the other side of the coin: A negative reaction from the paraffin test did not prove that a person had not fired a rifle." -- Page 18 of David Belin's 1973 book "November 22, 1963: You Are The Jury"

Then you can't possibly believe President Kennedy had a great-big hole in the back of his head....can you? It's really that simple. Either these pictures are depicting the true nature of JFK's head wounds after his death....or they aren't. And you just said you don't think these are fakes. So, where does that leave you?

The bullet very likely changed course slightly after entering JFK's head. Which, IMO, is to be expected after striking such a hard object head-on at full speed. Plus, the angle at which Kennedy's head was tilted and angled at Z313 probably played a part in it too. Plus, just one look at the Z-Film and the autopsy photos tells us where the large wound was located--and the photos also tell us that JFK's face is intact after the shot passed through his head. You don't think the Z-Film AND the photos are fakes, do you Bill? What's the point of even having autopsy photos and X-rays if nobody is going to believe what they show? (And virtually no conspiracist believes anything they show.)

The autopsy photo known as F8 is useless, IMO. Why anyone would use it to try and prove anything is beyond me.

Yes, there's discrepancy on the exact location of the entry wound....but there is certainly no discrepancy concerning the NUMBER of entry holes in JFK's head -- it was one (see quotes below). "In 1963, we proved at the autopsy table that President Kennedy was struck from above and behind by the fatal shot. The pattern of the entrance and exit wounds in the skull proves it, and if we stayed here until hell freezes over, nothing will change this proof. It happens 100 times out of 100, and I will defend it until I die. This is the essence of our autopsy, and it is supreme ignorance to argue any other scenario. This is a law of physics and it is foolproof--absolutely, unequivocally, and without question. The conspiracy buffs have totally ignored this central scientific fact, and everything else is hogwash. There was no interference with our autopsy, and there was no conspiracy to suppress the findings." -- Dr. James J. Humes; October 1991 "There was only one entrance wound in the head." -- Dr. J. Humes; 1967 [see video at link below] http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/james-humes.html "It is the firm conclusion of the panel members...that beyond all reasonable medical certainty, there is no bullet perforation of entrance any place on the skull other than the single one in the cowlick. .... It is the firm conclusion of the panel that there is no bullet perforation of entrance beneath that brain tissue [near JFK's hairline]...and we find no evidence to support anything but a single gunshot wound of entrance in the back of the President's head." -- Michael Baden; 1978

David, Wecht, at least as of June 14, 2007 [see video below], believed that the bullet that exited JFK's throat managed to somehow miss Connally and then exited the car on the left side without ever being recovered.

The only problem is, Greg --- the back of President Kennedy's head was not "obliterated". Every bit of skull bone in the back (occipital) of JFK's head is still there in the autopsy X-ray:

I got a kick out of Dr. Wecht's "double head shot" theory in the video below, because the theory would seem to be a brand-new one (I certainly had never heard this type of chronology for the make-believe double-head-shot theory before) which REVERSES the order of the alleged two head shots -- with Wecht saying it was the FIRST of these two head shots that came from a Grassy Knoll shooter (at Z313 of the Zapruder Film), and then a second head shot came in from the REAR. Now, this totally reverses the oft-repeated theory by CTers which has the FIRST head shot at Z313 entering from behind, while a second head shot enters from the front a few milliseconds later. So, it's apparently now a whole new ballgame regarding the "Double Head Shot" theory. (At least for some conspiracy believers, like Dr. Cyril H. Wecht.) And wasn't it, indeed, most fortunate for those conspirators (particularly that expert marksman who shot the President in the head from his Grassy Knoll position) to have only the ONE single wound of entry being visible to the autopsists at Bethesda? And it just happened to be the entry hole in the BACK of the head, vs. having a visible entry wound in the FRONT of the head--which would, of course, have totally ruined the "Oswald As Patsy" scheme. And wasn't it incredibly lucky for those plotters to have the Knoll head shot resulting in no blood spray whatsoever to the REAR of JFK's head. Not a speck of blood is visible at the rear part of his head. All the "spray" is going forward, not rearward. Amazingly fortunate for the conspirators indeed. I like Dr. Cyril Wecht, but I think he's better off sticking to the old version of that dumb "2 Head Shots" theory. Because by reversing the order, it only makes the conspiracists look more desperate and more determined to totally ignore what we see in the Zapruder home movie and in JFK's official autopsy report.

What makes you think I'm anything but relaxed, Tommy? I'm just stating the facts (coupled with ordinary common sense) -- like always.

McClelland gives a very nice interview and has a fine memory. But his stuff about the head wound is just nuts, and always has been .... THE ODD TALES OF THE PARKLAND DOCTORS

Then why aren't there TWO entry wounds in JFK's head? The autopsy report couldn't be clearer as to the NUMBER of times President Kennedy was shot--and the general direction those shots came from: "It is our opinion that the deceased died as a result of two perforating gunshot wounds inflicted by high-velocity projectiles fired by a person or persons unknown. The projectiles were fired from a point behind and somewhat above the level of the deceased." -- Via JFK's Autopsy Report http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0281b.htm Are we really supposed to believe the above words are nothing but a pack of lies? Moreover, the above words printed in JFK's autopsy report are corroborated by the autopsy photos AND X-rays, which do not show TWO wounds of entry to JFK's head. More lies? More deceit? More covering up? Is there a limit to the number of lies and fake pictures and fake reports and phony testimony that a reasonable person should swallow when evaluating the JFK evidence? Or are the limits boundless?

Yeah, if Scott Pelley of CBS News had taken the time to explain all of those details, then even more of the CBS viewers would have been made aware of the fact that the manner in which Lee Harvey Oswald obtained his Book Depository job could not possibly have been "conspiratorial" in nature. (Unless some people want to accuse Buell Frazier and Linnie Randle of being part of a "Let's Plant LHO In The Depository" scheme. And would anyone be silly enough to suggest something like that?) Was Lee Oswald Planted In The Depository? Ruth-Paine.blogspot.com

Come to think of it, it would be better if the DiEugenios of the world just stayed inside the framework of a Perry Mason episode. Almost all conspiracy theorists wallow in fiction 24/7 anyway. They'd be right at home on the CBS set with Perry, Della Street, and Lieutenant Tragg.

James DiEugenio of Los Angeles believes in so many things that are so incredibly wrong, they could fill up the L.A. Coliseum. The number of things Jim gets RIGHT are so far outweighed by all of the stupid and wrong things he believes (e.g., Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy, Oswald didn't shoot Tippit, Oswald never took any large bag into work, Oswald didn't go to the embassies in Mexico, Oswald never shot at Walker, Oswald never even ordered or took possession of Mannlicher-Carcano rifle #C2766 OR Smith & Wesson revolver #V510210, all the documents relating to Oswald's purchases of the rifle AND the revolver are fake, Ruth Paine has "CIA" stamped on her forehead, Buell Frazier is a xxxx, Linnie Randle is a xxxx, Will Fritz helped Ruby to shoot Oswald by opening up a "pocket" in the DPD basement [that's one of my all-time faves there ], the 2nd-floor lunchroom encounter between Oswald, Baker, and Truly never even happened at all, and a thousand other preposterous things), therefore is it reasonable to believe anything he has to say about the JFK and Tippit murder cases? How many times does a conspiracist have to cry wolf (or, in Jim DiEugenio's case, "Everything's fake!") before you stop listening to him entirely? Perry, your witness.