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7 hours ago, Bart Kamp said:
I made a few posts in different threads, but now I have been sent quite a few different things which I shall post in here accordingly.
http://www.prayer-man.com/gifts-from-uncle-malcolm-part-4/
Oswald’s description over the police radio, most interesting doc.
Bart,
My jaw dropped when I read Shanklin's memo to the file in your post. It's page 2 of Shanklin's report about two thirds of the way down the document you posted.
Fritz did not want to send out a description of Oswald for fear or tipping Oswald off that they were coming for him.
"Fritz stated that he placed no stock whatsoever in the broadcast at 12:43 PM concerning a description of a white male, 5'10", 165 pounds individual who was allegedly carrying a rifle..."
What the hell does that mean?
Did Fritz believe that the broadcast itself was fraudulent - perhaps inserted into the transcript later?
Did he take no stock in the description?
If he believed that the broadcast originated with Sawyer, did he believe that Sawyer made it up, and shows some kind of tension between Fritz and Sawyer?
What an extraordinary statement by Fritz!
Steve Thomas
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5 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:
It would make sense that Oswald would want to see and hear General Walker in person.
And he had the chance to do so living in the same home town and with access to Walker's appearances not being tightly screened.
Did Oswald's North Beckley rooming house live in maid Earline Roberts ever state that Oswald did occasionally leave in the evenings or come back to his room later than normal end of day working hours?
Joe,
Here is the guest roster of the evening DRE meeting on October 13th which Walker attended. I don't think Walker spoke at the meeting, but I could be wrong.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10649#relPageId=22&tab=page CD 246 pp. 20-26.
I had the attendance backward. According to Joaquin Pinillos, the afternoon meeting was more heavily attended. (see p. 25)
Mr. BALL. Did he go out any at night?
Mrs. ROBERTS. No.
Mr. BALL. Did he stay home every night?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes---he stayed home every night---I didn't ever know of him going out. If he did, he left after I went to bed and I never knew.Steve Thomas
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5 hours ago, Bart Kamp said:
I made a few posts in different threads, but now I have been sent quite a few different things which I shall post in here accordingly.
http://www.prayer-man.com/gifts-from-uncle-malcolm-part-4/
Shanklin to Sorrels and handing over a list of photographers around the crime scene. The list is missing of course.
Doorway Man discussed with Bill Shelley and Roy Truly.
Oswald’s description over the police radio, most interesting doc.
Bart,
Here is Gemberling's report of 11/30/63 referred to in your post.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406&search=Gemberling_11%2F30%2F63#relPageId=15&tab=page
page 12.
The FBI interview with Brennan was taken by Agents Gaston Thompson and Robert Lish and dictated on 11/22/63. In it, Brennan stated that he attended a lineup on 11/22 where he described the shooter. The report itself was transcribed on 11/23.
How could the report be dictated on 11/22 and Brennan said he attended a lineup on 11/22, when he supposedly didn't attend a lineup until 7:30 PM on 11/23?
This FBI report is bogus.
Steve Thomas
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On 6/26/2018 at 1:01 AM, Steve Thomas said:
Ron,
The first time I saw picture number two and looked at the guy in the brown suit in the front row, second from the right, I thought he looked an awful lot like Gen. Edwin Walker.
I decided, nah, that guy has a real narrow tie, and Walker seemed to favor broader ties.
Walker was at the DRE meeting with Sarah Castillo and Annie Odio. But if these pictures are of an Alpha-66 meeting, it probably isn't him.
On the other hand, if these pictures are really of a DRE meeting in October, there was a guy named Edwin Steig, who attended that DRE meeting and said he saw Oswald at that meeting sitting in the back of the room. See CD 205 p. 646.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672&relPageId=649
Steve Thomas
I spoke too soon.
The DRE meeting that Walker attended was at 8:00 PM. The pictures shown in this thread were taken in the afternoon. There were two DRE meetings on October 13th. The one in the afternoon was for Spanish speaking people and was attended by about 40 people. The one in the evening was for both Spanish and English speaking people and was attended by about 75 people. Walker gave $5.00 to the cause.
Steve Thomas
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On 6/23/2018 at 9:39 PM, Ron Bulman said:
That's him in the second picture, front row, second from the left. White socks, Brown Jacket, arms crossed and funky sun glasses. The guy next to him looks like the lawyer he never had, ready to defend him. The guy next to him looks kind of like Garrison (seriously, on this last part, I know it's not him but it looks kind of like him).
Ron,
The first time I saw picture number two and looked at the guy in the brown suit in the front row, second from the right, I thought he looked an awful lot like Gen. Edwin Walker.
I decided, nah, that guy has a real narrow tie, and Walker seemed to favor broader ties.
Walker was at the DRE meeting with Sarah Castillo and Annie Odio. But if these pictures are of an Alpha-66 meeting, it probably isn't him.
On the other hand, if these pictures are really of a DRE meeting in October, there was a guy named Edwin Steig, who attended that DRE meeting and said he saw Oswald at that meeting sitting in the back of the room. See CD 205 p. 646.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672&relPageId=649
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3 hours ago, Stu Wexler said:
This has been the subject of two straight Lancer presentations for me. Charles Waters, I am rather confident, was involved with one if not two Oswald impersonations prior to the assassination, including the infamous Bolton Ford impersonation. He becomes even more suspicious as he worked at one point (no earlier than 1962) as a car salesman at Mohr Chevrolet, which happens to be marked (although there is some controversy about it) on Oswald's Dallas map and at another car dealership that happened to be right at the corner where Oswald was dropped off by the cab driver on 11/22/63. Mohr Chevrolet is interesting because it connects, indirectly, to the library card found (supposedly) in Oswald's wallet. The latter was the actual focus of the presentations.
Stu,
Do you happen to know off the top of your head, the exact period of time when Oswald and Jack Bowen's employment at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall overlapped?
Yesterday, I was musing to myself about that "missing two weeks" in Oswald's life from October 19 - November 3, 1962 when nobody in Oswald's life knew where he was living, and wondered if it was possible he was staying with Bowen.
Steve Thomas
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Charles Waters:
Posted by Ed Ledoux in the Reopen the Kennedy Case Forum on May 11, 2018
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1759-library-card-clues
Dalzell,
“William Dalzell has admitted to me that he formed Friends of Democratic Cuba as well as the Free Voice of Latin America. This is:an extremely intelligent man who apparently was very much involved with the CIA in the early 1960's, although he will make no such admission. He states that the name Joseph Moore is very familiar to him and such 7-10- a person may have been connected with Friends of Democratic Cuba -- but he cannot place the individual. He did state also, however, that one Charles Waters was very active with the organization. The description of Charles Waters at the time describes a youngish man, rather slim with somewhat blond hair. It is entirely possible that Charles Waters used the name Oswald in soliciting bids for trucks at Bolton Ford. It is to be noted that-there is a Charles Waters who is now employed in Dallas by H. L. Hunt and who seems to be a right-hand man to Hunt's assistant, Paul Rothermell. One of Charles Water's last comments here in New Orleans was to the effect that "Everything is lined up in Dallas" and that he was going to go to Dallas. We should attempt to obtain a driving license photograph of Charles Waters. This photograph should be shown.to the Bolton Ford people and added to our photograph file. 33. In connection with Friends of Democratic Cuba and the activity of the early 1960's, Grady Durham's name keeps coming up. He was, for example, the individual who drew up the papers for the charter of that organization. Anyone going to Washington on any office project should also make arrangements to see Grady Durham and interview him in this regard. We have his address available.”
Posted by Ed Ledoux in the Reopen the Kennedy Case Forum on May 16, 2018
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1759-library-card-clues
Christopher Courtwright, "The Strange Allegations of Raymond Carnay", Kennedy Assassination Chronicles, Volume 2, Issue 3, p. 19.
Carnay's odyssey began when he received a call from Charlie Waters, who described himself as "vice-commander of the anti-Castro revolutionary forces in the Western Hemisphere" and that he was in Dallas "recruiting pilots" for "flying harassment raids over Cuba". He met with the Oswald-type character in person three times over 7-9 days and several follow-up phone calls. "How could the Oswald impostor have known in the first place that Carnay had turned a list of names and other information over to the FBI? Was someone in intelligence circles testing Carnay's loyalties by sending in a straw man to pose as a Castro advocate? A similar story to Carnay's is told to Jim Garrison by William Galzell, the head of Friends of Democratic Cuba in New Orleans. In 1961, Jim Moore was purchasing trucks for the FDC and documents were signed by Moore and a man called Lee Oswald. When asked before the grand jury, Galzell said that "Colonel" Charles Watters was working with Joseph Moore and he could tell Garrison all about Moore. http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1179&search=moore#relPageId=17&tab=page Waters treated the group as a "hangout for arms and ammunition". See 124-10288-10389: Like Carnay, Dalzell describes Waters to the FBI as a "lieutenant colonel in the Western Hemisphere". See 124-10288-10389, p. 47 of 59: Dalzell was not a marginalized character - in the 50s he worked for DOD as a cryptographer.Posted by Ed Ledoux in the Reopen the Kennedy Case Forum on May 16, 2018
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1759-library-card-clues
This comes from a memorandum on an interview with members of the 30th of November group dated March 8, 1962.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=112691&relPageId=2&search=%22Charles_Waters%22
Possible arms sale involving Charles Waters in April, 1961
and
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=76766&relPageId=30&search=%22Charles_Waters%22
“For the short period of time of its subsequent existence, the Friends of Democratic Cuba, Inc. was headed by Charles Waters.”
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=112690&relPageId=2&search=%22Charles_Waters%22
Charles Waters was interviewed by SA James Hosty in March, 1962 in connection with the 30th of November group. Hosty told Waters that the FBI “was not condoning his activities and would not recommend any action in this matter on his part.”
Charles Waters appears at the Dallas FBI office on May 15 and August 3, 1961 and tells them of his activities with the “Liberation Forces of the Western Hemisphere” and the “Democratic Revolutionary Front.” “On 11/12/64, Charles Waters, then employed as fleet manager, Johnson Chrysler, Plymouth Corporation, 5311 Lemon Ave., Dallas, informed CIA representative, James Walton Moore (protect identity), at Dallas, that he had been contacted by a friend of his, Donald Sparks, with whom he had worked on the “Free Cuba Committee”, with an invitation to Waters to come in with him in the selling of military equipment to anti-Castro groups.”
“At the time of his original visit to the Dallas office in May, 1961, Waters stated that he had served in the U.S. Marine Corps from 1951 to 1959 and from 1954 to 1957 had been a Marine Corps Guard at the U.S. Embassy at Montevideo, Uruguay. He claimed to hold a top secret clearance. He said he later served in the Marine Corps Intelligence. He furnished his serial number as 122-37-48.”
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=93881&relPageId=28&search=%22Charles_Waters%22
“William Wayne Dalzell, New Orleans, LA, advised that while in telephonic contact with Charles Waters, Dallas, Texas, on 6/7/61, he learned that Waters was a Lieutenant Colonel in the “Liberation Forces of the Western Hemisphere”(105-99586).”
FBI Memorandum of June 6, 1961 re: William Dalzell
pp 6- 8:
Charles Waters given as a source for supply military equipment and automatic weapons.
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5 hours ago, David Boylan said:
Any photos of Sarita?
David,
Larry Hancock has one on this page:
http://www.larry-hancock.com/photos/p-app-h/App%20H%20Odio%20photos.jpg
Steve Thomas
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On 6/22/2018 at 6:04 PM, Paul Brancato said:
One of them, as Steve Thomas and I noted, seems to imply that although CIA released all info on QJWIN they still kept secret his actual identity, even though he is referred to as Mankel several times in that doc. Maybe if Steve knows where that document is and he can repost it.
Paul,
This was posted by Bill Simpich in the Education Forum on June 29, 2014:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/10942-who-was-qjwin/?page=3
“I think the documents cited here resolve the identify of QJ/WIN as Jose Mankel (while recognizing that "Mankel" may not have been his true name, as shown in this ARRB memo: https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=60509&relPageId=3 “
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On 5/22/2018 at 5:19 PM, David Josephs said:
David,
Where does this come from?
What caught my eye was the name of the shipping line he was proposing to take, "Grace Lines"
He wound up taking the "Lykes Lines" company. I wonder why.
I did a little bit of reading about the Grace Lines. They seemed to concentrate in the Caribbean and the west coast of South America. I don't know as I sit here, if they operated out of New Orleans or not.
https://www.cruiselinehistory.com/the-grace-line/
Steve Thomas
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3 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
Steve, thank you for capturing this frame. I don't know how to do that.
# 2, in this picture looks like it is not a drainage pipe but a pipe sticking way up above what is purported to be a train, I.E. it would be knocked off at the first undepass the train came to. In the clip the "thing" sticking up at the same point in it looks like a light pole in the distance on Stemmons Freeway.
Ron,
I just held my cursor over the looping images, and when that photo popped up, I right clicked on it and said "copy this image", then I pulled up a photo software program (I used Paint), and did an "edit paste".
Thanks. What I originally mistook as a "drainage pipe" of some kind, I now see as sunlight reflecting off the side of a building.
I'm getting older now and my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be. That's why I don't do a lot of commentary about photos. I'm no good at it.
Steve Thomas
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3 hours ago, John Butler said:
The 4 films show no one on the bridge and a train there. These are:Mark Bell
John,
I'm not sure I see a train in Bell. (If that's where this photo is from)
Please excuse my crude editing.
#1 seems to me to show an almost whole house showing between two cars
# 2 seems to show some kind of drainage pipe or something
# 3 seems to show some kind of weird window showing right in the middle of a box car
It seems to me that these are building set further back from the tracks.
(That's just my personal, unprofessional opinion).
Steve Thomas
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14 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:
These two photos are certainly of the "daytime" Spanish speaking meeting.
Notice the daylight through the windows?
Joe,
I'm not so sure now that the meeting I was thinking of, is the same Alpha 66 meeting that Malcolm Blunt referenced, and for which Bart Kamp provided two photos.
The Sylvia Odio/Sarah Castillo meeting was DRE. The meeting in question here was Alpha 66. I think I was wrong to confuse the two meetings. Does anyone know when this Alpha 66 meeting was supposed to have taken place? Wasn't Veciana supposed to have been in Dallas in early September? The DRE meetings were in October.
Steve Thomas
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On 6/18/2018 at 10:50 PM, John Butler said:
Well, what about those missing motorbikes.
I mean the 5 missing motorbikes in the Altgens 7 photo.
We then see 3 motorbikes in Bell and 3 motorbikes in McIntryre. Where is the 5 missing motorbikes in Altgens 7.
John,
Wasn't there something about Curry stopping to let Chaney catch up to him and tell him what the hell just happened back there? Maybe the lead cyclists had moved on ahead slightly.
Steve Thomas
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Over the late evening hours of February 18 and the early morning hours of February 19, 1962, Captain, Jean-Rene Souètre led an escape from the prison camp of
Saint-Maurice l’Ardoise in the Gard Department of France. Eighteen men escaped the prison camp. Ten were immediately captured, and eight evaded capture and escaped. Jean-Rene was one of the eight.
After his escape, Souètre wrote the following note to the camp commandant:
"“Monsieur. Respectueux des décisions de justice qui ont fait de nous des hommes libres, nous avons jugé de notre devoir de nous soustraire à une mesure incompatible avec notre état d’officier. Nous aurions été indignes de notre uniforme en acceptant de remplacer dans votre camp ceux que la France nous avait donnés pour mission de combattre. Respectueux de nos serments, fidèles aux traditions de notre Arme, convaincus de la justice de notre cause, nous ne pouvions demeurer plus longtemps dans une expectative coupable. Nous sommes persuadés Monsieur qu’il vous est facile de comprendre. Nous en appelons à votre dignité en vous demandant de vous refuser à remplir à l’avenir des fonctions qui déshonorent le Corps de la Police française. Mura et Souètre.”
“Respectful of the judicial decisions which made us free men, we felt it our duty to avoid a measure incompatible with our position as officers. We would have been unworthy of our uniform by agreeing to replace in your camp those whom France had given us to fight. Respectful of our oaths, faithful to the traditions of our Arms, convinced of the justice of our cause, we could not remain longer in a guilty expectancy. We are convinced Monsieur, that it is easy for you to understand. We appeal to your dignity by asking you to refuse to fulfill in the future, functions that dishonor the French Police Corps. Mura and Souètre."
(This would be Captain, Raymond Mura).
The warden, Achille Perrodo, had only been on the job since January 4th.
Steve Thomas
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On 6/12/2018 at 2:58 PM, James DiEugenio said:
OMG, can we get back to the subject: What about Elizabeth Cole.
If you can believe it, I never heard of her. You mean in addition to Sylvia Odio and Rose Cheramie another woman had advance knowledge of the hit?
She sounds really interesting.
Jim,
Just a little tickler...
Posted by Lee Forman in the Education Forum November 29, 2006:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/5746-elizabeth-cole-prior-knowledge/?page=2
“Speculation says that if it's Fermin that attended, then it may have been through some Jesuit relationship - why else bother penetrating an event centered on Religion? If he did attend, it is not obvious from the information I was able to gather.”
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_326-350/doc0326.html
FAIRHOPE, ALA: By Apr 63 Alpha-66 office in. [R-759-2-161] ADD: 457 OAK STREET [R-759-3-25] May 63 [R-759-3-55]
CD 1020 p. 14.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11416#relPageId=16&tab=page
"He (Jim Buchanan, brother of Jerry Buchanan) advised that Jerry Buchanan would be available for a few days following the day of interview (April 30, 1964) at 457 Oak St. Fairhope, Alabama, the residence of Craig Sheldon, whom he described as Chairman of the International Anti-Communist Brigade in Alabama."
“Addendum on Mobile Anti-Castro Activists
There has never even been alleged, nor does Mobile Bay Magazine in any way now suggest, a connection between Oswald and Mobilians engaged in anti-Castro activities. Yet we think it appropriate to note, as a matter of historical background, that Mobile, as well as New Orleans, was at least up until the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion a center of active support for anti Castro militants.
A memo filed in the F.B.I. office in Los Angeles dated May 8, 1963 quotes an informant who copied a list of headquarter cities for Alpha 66, the Cuban exile led group that staged regular raids on Castro's Cuba. One of the 13 cities in the U.S., Canada, and South America is Fairhope, Ala.
Fairhope sculptor Craig Sheldon, now in his late 70s, was an adventurous, patriotic WWII veteran and devout anti-Communist in the early 1960s. He has never made a secret of the fact that he was a member of Alpha 66”.
Posted by David Joseph in the Education Forum 1/8/2018
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24633-oswald-in-alabama/
Flashback: Lee Harvey Oswald Visits Spring Hill
Originally run in Mobile Bay Monthly's September 1993 issue, this article explores Lee Harvey Oswald's speech at Spring Hill College in July 1963, just months before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
Is this the FBI report the Mobile Bay Magazine refers to?
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/belligerence/Alpha-66-12-FBI.pdf
Alpha-66:
FAIRHOPE, ALA: By Apr 63 Alpha-66 office in. [R-759-2- 161]
“SHELDON, Craig of Fairhope, Alabama was recruiting for A-66 on Jan 2, 1963. He says he is a member, an ex-marine. [R-759-1-841851”
Carlos Bringuer lived in Fairhope, AL
https://www.mylife.com/carlos-bringuier/carlosbrin63773vr
https://www.spokeo.com/Carlos-Bringuier/Louisiana
SS Rowley Memorandum of 4/24/64 CD 853 page 3
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=4
Masen told Frank Ellsworth that Rodriguez and George F. Parrel were leaders of the local DRE and also members of Alpha-66.
Masen told Ellsworth that George Parrel, an associate of Orcarberro, had also been trying to buy guns from him.
Masen told Ellsworth that Rodriguez and Parrel had made purchases from him; that they presently have a large cache of arms somewhere in Dallas; that he did not know the location.
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1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:
I thought I read somewhere that Bouhe was the record keeper for the White Russian community in Dallas/Fort Worth?
In other words, he kept track of their funding, their contacts and their membership etc.
Let us never forget Bouhe's final words to Marina: it was just a coincidence that he shared a community pool with the guy who killed her husband i.e. Jack Ruby.
Jim,
CD 191 describes Bouhe as being the Secretary of the Greek Orthodox church he belonged to.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10595&relPageId=14&search=%22George_Bouhe%22
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2 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:
There is a reference to a radio in the Oswalds possession being substandard. I think he was a radio buff, which might explain the earlier reference you posted. But still he comes off like someone with his nose in everyone's business, and I'm pretty sure he was enamored of Marina.
Paul,
Okay. That's another reference to a radio that Bouhe is concerned about. This is very interesting to me. Maybe it was more than just being "a radio buff".
CD 205 p. 593 FBI interview by James Hosty of Igor Voshinin:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672#relPageId=596&tab=page
"George Bouhe has taken it upon himself to contact every person of Russian descent who comes to Dallas and try and help them in getting jobs and getting settled."
Was that the real reason he "took it upon himself"?
See the WC testimony of Paul Raigorodsky in (9H5) and his comments about the Tolstoy Foundation
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=43#relPageId=13&tab=page
"Now anybody who comes to the the Tolstoy Foundation, you know has been checked, rechecked and double checked. There is no question about them. I mean that's the No. 1 stamp.
Mr. Jenner. That's the No. 1 stamp of an approval or of their genuineness?
Mr. Raigorodsky. Of approval - in fact, the U.S. Government recognized that and has been up until about a year ago giving the Tolstoy Foundation as much as $400,000 a year subsidy for this kind of work."
Steve Thomas
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5 hours ago, David Von Pein said:
Instead of jumping to the unwarranted conclusion that there must have been photo fakery, why not consider the obvious answer?
With that obvious answer being:
There are some additional motorcycles in front of the 3 cycles we see in the McIntire picture, and those additional cycles are simply out of the camera range of Mel McIntire's camera.
Plus....ask yourself:
Why would anyone want to alter the number of motorcycles seen in this photograph? ....
This picture was also used to highlight a couple of things"
1) It gives you a better idea of where James Tague was standing on Commerce St. and his position in relation to the TSBD
2) Where are the railroad workers on the bridge? They left their position pretty quickly.
3) There is no train obscuring J.C. White's vision of the motorcade.
4) The picture was used to refute Tom Tilson's claim to have seen a man sliding down the embankment west of the underpass and get into a dark car parked there. (What are those bollards in the middle of the field anyway?)
Steve Thomas
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1 hour ago, David Von Pein said:
FWIW...
I count eight (8) motorcycles riding in front of Chief Curry's Lead Car in this motorcade photo....
David,
I was really struck by this picture. Why in the world would you pack that many people in that confined a space? Do you think the planners of the motorcade anticipated that kind of crowd, or did it take them by surprise? It looks like that crowd of people must be 20 deep in there.
Steve Thomas
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WC testimony of George Bouhe:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bouhe.htm
Mr. BOUHE - For 9 1/2 years I was employed as a personal accountant of a very prominent Dallas geologist, and probably capitalist if you want to say it, Lewis W, MacNaughton, senior chairman of the board of the well-known geological and engineering firm of DeGolyer & MacNaughton, but I was MacNaughton's personal employee.
David J. Brown
http://obits.dallasnews.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?n=david-j-brown&pid=111341369
“He joined the United States Army in World War II. He served two years in the China-Burma-India Theatre. After he returned from the war, he graduated from SMU in January of 1947 with a BBA in professional accounting. He then went to work for DeGolyer and MacNaughton as a petroleum economist and served with Lewis W. MacNaughton as a petroleum economics consultant to the Finance Minister of the Saudi Arabian government from 1952 to 1954.”
DeGolyer and MacNaughton is one of the oldest and most respected names in the oil and gas industry. Since its formation in 1936, D&M has strived to be the leader in petroleum industry consulting services. With offices around the world, D&M employs over 180 petroleum professionals, including engineers, geologists, geophysicists, petrophysicists, statisticians, and economists who speak over 30 different languages. D&M provides a wide range of petroleum consulting services to clients worldwide and is consistently at the forefront of the industry in implementing innovative technologies.
As the leading independent consulting firm focused on the petroleum industry, DeGolyer and MacNaughton provides unbiased and informed answers to clients worldwide. D&M skillfully blends energy economics, engineering, and the earth sciences to help clients in more than 100 countries make the smartest decisions regarding exploration, recovery, and management of oil and gas resources.
"George Bloodworth, who was a Warrant Officer Candidate in the U.S. Army Helicopter School... Bouhe began asking questions about the armament, guns, rockets, guided missiles and mini guns, carried by helicopters."
Perhaps someone can explain to me why the personal accountant to one of the richest men in America is pumping Warrant Officer Candidate in a U.S. Army Helicopter School, George Bloodworth, for information about the "guns, rockets, guided missiles and mini guns, carried by helicopters."
Steve Thomas
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31 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:
I agree Bouhe is ‘suspicious’. I’m not sure what you think his role was, but I’m pretty convinced he was a White Russian making sure that no Soviet agents were infiltrating the Russian community in Dallas. An Army Intelligence Officer wonders about him because he keeps files and questions the replacement of a radio which can get Moscow. The officer reports this to the 112th MI group. What comes of that inquiry is hidden because files are destroyed or deep sixed. I think I have this right but please correct me if I don’t.
i think what we are seeing is the deep cover operations of ACSI, which Prouty calls a black operation inside the Pentagon. Bouhe is their agent. One of the areas that ACSI is surely involved in is Eastern Europe immigration. Matlack is Hungarian, as is Brandstetter, who openly states he reports to ACSI for 19 years. I think our Army Intel agent stumbles on this Solidarist Network and reports it, but nothing comes of it from outward appearances.
Paul,
It was the 66th MI.
What's this about Bloodworth being drugged? Why is Boue asking him about the American's commitment to Vietnam? Why the questions about the Bell helicopters capabilities and armaments? Why are Bouhe and Lydia conversing in Russian when both were fluent in English?
(S) Bloodworth became engaged in general conversation with Bouhe and Dymitruk Bouhe asked Bloodworth about his duty in the Republic of Vietnam. Bouhe further asked Bloodworth his opinion concerning the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. During the conversation with Bouhe, Bloodworth stated that he had served in Vietnam as a "gunner" on helicopters. Bouhe then asked Bloodworth questions concerning the types of helicopters used by the US and the armament capabilities of these helicopters. Bloodworth initially thought Bouhe might have been an Army Intelli¬ gence Officer, and was testing Bloodworth's security consciousness, and therefore Bloodworth was very careful in answering Bouhe’s questions. However, Bloodworth also believed that Bouhe was possibly a foreign intelligence officer, although Bouhe gave Bloodworth no indication of this, either by action or word. Only Bouhe asked Bloodworth questions. During lulls in the conversation, Bouhe and Dymitruk conversed in the Russian language.
Bouhe may not have given Bloodworth any indication that he was a foreign agent, but a good agent wouldn't.
Why is Oswald calling Bouhe at a pre-arranged time every day and saying, "I'm fine"? Is is just because that's when Oswald got off work, or is this some kind of code, as in, "Everything's going according to plan" as he goes about his work at JCS?
Why the concern about a radio "receiving Moscow"? Just what kind of radio is this anyway? shortwave? ham? Were there possibly coded instructions coming down over the airwaves?
So many questions.
Steve Thomas
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8 hours ago, David Boylan said:
Steve,
Saw this in a DOD doc page 26:
"Bloodworth initially thought Bouhe might have been an Army Intelligence Officer, and was testing Bloodworth's security consciousness, and therefore Bloodworth was very careful in answering Bouhe's questions. however, Bloodworth also believed that Bouhe \rJas possibly a foreign intelligence officer, although Bouhe gave Bloodworth no indication of this, either by action or word. Only Bouhe asked Bloodworth questions. During lulls in the conversation, Bouhe and Dymitruk conversed in the Russian language. "
http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/NARA-Nov-2017/docid-32263534.pdf
And this headscratcher at the end:
d. NIS dossier #D38-67-41 relates to Lee Harvey Oswald. Contents of this file have been the subject of various letters and memoranda in connection with HSCA requests.
It has been standard operating procedures for the Navy to interview returning defectors when of interest to and under the jurisdiction of the NavyDavid,
Thanks. For some reason, my browser does not want to pull up that blackvault pdf. Could you copy and paste that page 26? It's probably more of the same as what I posted earlier though.
Bouhe has become a very suspicious character in my mind. Why is he keeping files on everybody? Why is he asking questions about Bell helicopter armaments? Why is he concerned about radios that are capable of "receiving Moscow"
NIS dossier# D38-67-41 would have been interesting to read. It was probably destroyed along with the other military files on Oswald.
Steve Thomas
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23 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:
Alright then, who was in Dallas Fort Worth that day?
Was it Mertz or Souetre?
Jim,
My personal belief is that it was Mertz, but alas, I can offer you no proof.
Steve Thomas
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Joe,
Steig said that Oswald sat in the back of the room and didn't speak to anybody. Sure sounds quiet and assuming to me.
Steve Thomas