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  1. 1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

    I understand Steve but I've been running into so many excerpts from sources which have clear political agendas that I've become sort of obsessive about balance (heck, I even got into an online joust about Tilapia last night).  Its sort of humorous that anyone could assert that the DIA,  which was only legally created in October 1961, could have had its act together well enough plus have foreign assets in place  to control NATO in assassination plots against DeGaulle in 62/63.

    Your more balanced take on the OAS is certainly one I support, it was more of an anti regime, pro-colonial social network than a unified operational body.  There are some great sources on the OAS and its activities in Algeria as well as its abortive military activities.  Anyone who has SWHT 2010 might want to check out what I did find on Soutre and Mertz and OAS contacts with the CIA in 1963 as well as what the context of heroin smuggling into Canada - which was part of the picture for both men.

    Larry,

     

    I would ask about your take on Talapia, but I don't really think I want to know.

    *grin*

     

    Your comment about the DIA controlling NATO is about the same way I feel about the suggestion that the FBI was running NATO.

    I think the OAS was a "unified operational body" in early 1962, but after the Evian Accords in March, that kind of all fell apart.

    I was just reading about the thugs in the SAC running with the Corsican mob out of Marseilles just yesterday.

    Larry, what do you know about Souetre and heroin smuggling? I've studied his life a lot and never found any evidence of that.

    Mertz, yeah, he was caught up with Paul Mondolini and Augustin Riccord, but Souetre???

     

    Steve Thomas

  2. 9 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

    My concern was with the much more sweeping long term views in the article Steve posted, not in the specifics you mentioned.

     

    Larry,

     

    I wasn't saying that I agree with them, I was just trying to caution people against painting the OAS with too broad a brush.

    I think the statements in the Global Research article that, "Upon learning that the intelligence groups controlled by the Division Five of the FBI in the headquarters of the NATO organization had planned all of the attempts of his life, DeGaulle was inflamed"; and,

    "The Defense Intelligence Agency, the intelligence arm of all armed forces in the United States and Division Five, the counter-espionage agency for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, were both found to have been the controlling agencies in NATO directing the assassination attempts on De Gaulle’s life."

    are naive and simplistic and smack of Alex Jones and Infowars.

     

    I agree with Souetre. A toothless, discredited and impotent DeGaulle would have served the long term goals of the OAS far better than a dead one. Like I said, assassinations have a way of making martyrs out of people. If you are looking for assassins, I would look more to people like Yves Guillou, aka Yves Guerin-Serac or Andre Canal.

     

    Steve Thomas

  3. 42 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

    Steve:

    That is interesting.  I just wonder did the FBI have ways of interfacing with military intel to get leads for the Security Index?

    Jim,

     

    See the Memorandum of Understanding between the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice beginning on p. 20 of that document:

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249#relPageId=23&tab=page

     

    I would be willing to bet the FBI had a similar, if not identical MOU on their end.

     

    Steve Thomas

  4. 36 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

    I thought it was filtered through the FBI from both them and local law enforcement.

    Jim,

     

    One of the most interesting things I have ever encountered is the "Bartimo Letter of April 24, 1964".

    This is CD 852 here:

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249#relPageId=2&tab=page

    This spells out the liason procedures of the military establishment with various civilian agencies with respect to intelligence matters - foreign and domestic.

    Look at paragraph 3 on page 1. "The Secret Service is not a member of the intelligence community as such."

    Look at paragraphs 4 and 5 on that same page. The DIA had no criteria or procedures for interfacing with the Secret Service.

    Look at pp 5-6. The DIA had Memorandums of Understanding with Customs, the FBI, Narcotics, etc., but as far as the Secret Service, their agreements only related to counterfeiting.

     

    Like, I said, it's a very interesting document.

     

    Steve Thomas

  5. 2 hours ago, Gene Kelly said:

    Steve

    I would speculate that Philippe L. Thyraud (aka de Vosjoli) was working with (or supporting) Allen Dulles and the OAS, to assassinate Charles DeGaulle.  He was of the same anti-Communist bent as Angleton and Dulles.

    Gene

    Gene,

     

    I'm not so sure the OAS per se wanted to see DeGaulle assassinated. See the line in the cable cited above, "Therefore, the OAS believed that it was important to allow DeGaulle to remain in power while the OAS strengthened its organization." It would be hard to do that if DeGaulle was dead. The OAS also disavowed Jean Bastien-Thiry in his attack on DeGaulle at Petit-Clamart.

    Assassinations have a way of making martyrs out of people.

    On the other hand, Perez did tell Fensterwald that the OAS had sent a three man hit team down to Mexico to assassinated DeGaulle.

    I think by 1963, the OAS had split into different factions, sometimes working at cross purposes with each other.

    I ran across this interesting article - just some food for thought. This sounds more Gladio than OAS:

    The Lessons of History: In 1966 President De Gaulle Said No to US-NATO

    How De Gaulle did it his way

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-lessons-of-history-in-1966-president-de-gaulle-said-no-to-us-nato/5386501

    "The author using the pen name of William Torbitt describes how De Gaulle decided to do what looked (and to many European leaders looks, still today) impossible: the immediate expulsion of foreign namely US military forces from French soil. This was a clear example for the leaders of France, Germany, Italy on how a real leader (not a Hollywoodian caricature of a leader) acts in a moment of deep crisis for his country.

    Today, Washington and London – and behind them Wall Street and the City of London – are threatening retribution against those political leaders who dare uphold the national interest of their respective countries, while also refusing to accept a confrontation with Russia and China.

    These leaders are instructed by Washington to be accomplices in the process of destruction and destabilization of the European project.

    From ‘The Assassination Attempt on De Gaulle’ by William Torbitt:

    General De Gaulle was furious at the assassination plots and attempted assassination upon himself. He called in his most trusted officers with the French Intelligence Agency and they advised him that they were already working on the investigation to ferret out who was behind DeGaulle’s attempted assassination.
    The French Intelligence Agency in a very short while completely traced the assassination attempt through Permindex, the Swiss corporation, to the Solidarists, the Fascist White Russian emigre intelligence organization and Division Five, the espionage section of the FBI, into the headquarters of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Brussels, Belgium.
    French intelligence thus determined that the attempts on General De Gaulle’s life were being directed from NATO in Brussels through its various intelligence organizations and specifically, Permindex in Switzerland, basically a NATO intelligence front using the remnants of Adolph Hitler’s intelligence units in West Germany and also, the intelligence unit of the Solidarists headquartered in Munich, Germany. The overall command of the De Gaulle assassination unit was directed by Division Five of the FBI.
    Upon learning that the intelligence groups controlled by the Division Five of the FBI in the headquarters of the NATO organization had planned all of the attempts of his life, DeGaulle was inflamed and ordered all NATO units off of French soils. Under the contract between France and NATO, General De Gaulle could not force them to move for a period of time somewhat exceeding one year; yet, he told NATO to get off the soil of France and put the machinery in operation to remove them within the treaty agreements with the organization.
    The Defense Intelligence Agency, the intelligence arm of all armed forces in the United States and Division Five, the counter-espionage agency for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, were both found to have been the controlling agencies in NATO directing the assassination attempts on De Gaulle’s life. DIA and Division Five of the FBI were working hand in glove with the White Russian emigre intelligence arm, the Solidarists, and many of the Western European intelligence agencies were not aware of the assassination plan worked directly through NATO headquarters.  http://www.ctrl.org/essay2/torbitt.html

    The original source of this article is Global Research

    Copyright © Umberto Pascali, Global Research, 2014"

     

    Steve Thomas

  6. On 6/10/2018 at 9:28 PM, Gene Kelly said:

    Steve

    Philippe de Vosjoli was the French intelligence service's liaison to Angleton. and also a double-agent working for Angleton against his own country (France). He was strongly anti-DeGaulle, and allegedly led Angleton to believe that the KGB had penetrated the French intelligence service (SDECE), as supposedly confirmed by Anatoly Golitsyn. 

    Gene

     

    Gene,

     

    That's interesting. It mirrors the position taken by the OAS vis a vis DeGaulle and communist penetration of the SDECE.

     

    Steve Thomas

  7. 14 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

    Vince,

     

    Have you ever run across a report by the Dallas office of the SS similar to the one done by the Fort Worth Office vis a vis the "goofs"?

     

    I know the Criminal Intelligence Section of the Dallas Police Department's Special Service Bureau did a pre-check. I just wondered if the Dallas office of the SS did one too.

    This is in Box 13, Folder# 4, Item#52 of the DPD Archives.

    http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box13.htm

     

    P.S. I have become convinced that Oswald was not in the DPD's Intelligence files, and that the officer who told Fritz out in the hall that Oswald lived on Beckley was getting his information from somewhere else.

    Steve Thomas

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    Vince had included this in his post of 6/10/18:

    11/22/63:

    DALLAS TIMES HERALD 11/22/63 BEFORE the assassination happened

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    Quote:

    "A list - by name - of known agitators in Dallas who might possibly stir up trouble was obtained. Agents became familiar with them, their patterns."

    Unquote.

    I wonder where they got that list, and who was on it.

     

    Steve Thomas

  8. 43 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

     

    The whole question of Angleton’s loyalties seems key to me. When some CIA analyst opined that he was the kgb mole I thought that interesting but not quite subtle enough. The Mossad and Italian fascist connections (and accompanying mafiosi) seem underappreciated.

    Paul,

     

    You've been studying Vosjoli for a while. How close were he and Angleton?

     

    Steve Thomas

  9. 38 minutes ago, Vince Palamara said:

    Hello, Steve!

    No, I have not; I wish.

    Vince,

     

    You know, knowing that jFK was coming for a visit, it seems like the Dallas SS office would reach out and touch base with the 112th, and the FBI and the Dallas CID, but I've never read of that happening. The closest I've ever seen is the meeting Hosty had the morning of the 22nd with Coyle and I don't know who else; but they were meeting about something else. The arms thefts involving Masen and Darnell and Whitter, I think.

     

    It's strange.

    There's probably a whole avenue of research there, but I don't know how you would go about it. The SS field reports were probably among the batch of stuff the SS destroyed rather than turning them over to the ARRB.

     

    Steve Thomas

  10. Vince,

     

    Have you ever run across a report by the Dallas office of the SS similar to the one done by the Fort Worth Office vis a vis the "goofs"?

     

    I know the Criminal Intelligence Section of the Dallas Police Department's Special Service Bureau did a pre-check. I just wondered if the Dallas office of the SS did one too.

    This is in Box 13, Folder# 4, Item#52 of the DPD Archives.

    http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box13.htm

     

    P.S. I have become convinced that Oswald was not in the DPD's Intelligence files, and that the officer who told Fritz out in the hall that Oswald lived on Beckley was getting his information from somewhere else.

    Steve Thomas

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  11. I find the whole Marina Oswald/Nixon story entirely implausible.

     

    It was supposed to have happened between April 10th and April 24th.

    see Marina's testimony in June, 1964 in 5H388

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40#relPageId=398&tab=page

    At first, it was supposed to have happened about two weeks before Lee left for New Orleans on April 24th. That would place it around April 10th (the day of the Walker shooting).

    Then it was less than a week before Lee left for NO - perhaps as much as 10 days after the Walker incident. Maybe it was on the weekend, but then again, maybe it wasn't, because "he wasn't always employed". Oswald's last day of work at JCS was April 6th.

    Lee got the idea of going down to Nixon after reading the paper. She didn't read newspapers herself, but Lee read the Dallas Morning News sometimes. She didn't know if there was any information in the paper about Nixon coming to town or not.

     

    I'm sorry, but I don't believe any of it.

     

    Steve Thomas

     

     

     

  12. 2 hours ago, Bart Kamp said:

    I would like to know if anyone here can help me with a request by a highly respected researcher who doesn't frequent forums. Hence me posting.

     

    Two FBI numbers,105-82555 -5712 and 105 82555-5713.

     

    Bart,

     

    The only thing I can say is that these two numbers appear to be missing in the FBI Headquarters file in the Mary Ferrell Foundation site.

    Look in  FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 237 between pages 155 and 156 here:

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=60412#relPageId=155&tab=page

    The numbers jump from 5711 to 5714.

    Unless they are filed somewhere else.

     

    Steve Thomas

     

  13. 3 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

    Would you agree that DeM was working for US Intel? I forget who made the very cogent point that he associated with high level figures his entire life, and the Oswalds were a notable exception. I used to believe he was being truthful in his book I Am a Patsy. But now I think everything he said and did is suspect, especially his so called friendship with Lee. So I discount his testimony in regards to the rifle and to Walker.

    in regards to the book, shall we believe Haapanen? Is the book Military Order an official publication? I’d like to move beyond the questioning of the reality of the 488th.

    Paul,

     

     

    It looks like you can pick up a used copy for about $12.50

    The Military Order of World Wars
    By Turner Publishing Company Staff, Military Order of World Wars
    Published by Turner Publishing Company, 1995
    ISBN 1563111845, 9781563111846
    208 pages

     

    Admiral George C. Dyer was the author of MOWW – Its First Fifty Years.

    https://www.amazon.com/Military-Order-World-Turner-Publishing/dp/1563111845

     

    As far as DeM goes, I think I would classify him as an asset. His "walking tour" of Mexico down to the Panama Canal at the time of the Bay of Pigs is suspicious; so is his move to Haiti at a time when serious thought was being given to overthrowing the government of Haiti.

     

    I read the other day that his wife Jeanne was business partners with Abraham Zapruder.

     

    Lately, I've become interested in the role that uranium mining might play in the JFK story. I'm not a geologist, but uranium deposits seem to be found near oil fields. I lived in that Rangely, CO. area for a while, so I had a personal interest in DeMohrenschildt's comings and goings. When I read that D.H. Byrd sold his interests in Byrd Oil and used the money to found Byrd Uranium, my ears perked up. Whey would a person give up the lucrative money of big oil to invest in uranium? You have to figure that in the later 50's and early 60's, uranium would have to be a pretty hot commodity.

     

    There's a woman named Linda Minor, who writes a blog called, Quixotic Joust. She explored the topic of uranium exploration among rich Dallasites here:

    http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/06/other-uranium-explorers-in-texas-in.html

    “Other Uranium Explorers in Texas in the 1950's “

    She talks about the shadowy Dallas Uranium and Oil Company in the Dal-Tex building, and more.

     

    It's intriguing.

     

    Steve Thomas

  14. 16 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

    It would have been during this period of time that George De Mohrenschildt's resume * reflects he worked for Three States Natural Gas in the Rocky Mountain area and in the Uintah basin.

     

    * COL. LAWRENCE ORLOV: EDUCATIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL RECORD

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7491#relPageId=3&tab=page

     

    “During the period of 1949 – 1959 acted as consultant on various projects, namely in Haiti, West Indies... for Western Hemisphere Oil Corporation; in France... for Three States Natural Gas Company...” “July, 1946 to January, 1949. Field Engineer for one year and then Chairman of Rangely Field Engineering Geological Committee, Colorado.”

     

    George DeMohrenschildt worked in Rangely.

    Orlov was with DeMohrenschildt when they first sought out the Oswalds in 1962.

     

    Steve Thomas

    I'm sorry. I have a correction to make.

    Even though the title of this document is COL. LAWRENCE ORLOV: EDUCATIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL RECORD, it is actually a resume of George DeMohrenschildt that he gave to Orlov in 1958. (see p. 2 of that document). It was DeMohrenschildt who was working for Byrd.

     

    Steve Thomas

  15. 6 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

    Steve - have you seen the book titled ‘The Military Order of World Wars’? Researcher Larry Haapanen says, according to Peter Dale Scott, that on page 120 of that book that Crichton ‘commanded the 488th MID, reporting directly to the Army Chief of Staff Intelligence and the DIA’. Haapanen also says, according to Scott, that he was told by Crichton’s commander in the Texas Army Reserve, Lt. Colonel Whitmeyer, that Crichton’s Unit did its summer training at the Pentagon. This info was presented by Scott at the 2010 COPA convention.

    What do we know of Haapanen? Still around? 

    Paul,

     

    Thank you. Yes, I have seen it (at least as much as you can get online). Here is Crichton's entry on page 87:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=ibtADE8gMeoC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=%22Legion+of+Merit%22+Crichton&source=bl&ots=UsV17DJRk7&sig=sw-DLTVYZL9P6SKEfsWpeLEhvEg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJruvqzcvRAhXKw1QKHbOTD2IQ6AEINzAF#v=onepage&q=%22Legion%20of%20Merit%22%20Crichton&f=false

     

    Page 120 is not available in this online version

     

    Steve Thomas

  16. 5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/1959_80AF25CF0E76A.pdf

     

    Memorandum to: Each member of Congress

     

    In compliance with provisions of Public Law 476 of the 79th Congress, I am forwarding herewith the annual report of the Civil Air Patrol of 1959.

    Stephen D. McElroy

    Brigadier General, USAF

    National Commander

     

    “On 8 August (1959) the National Headquarters opened for business in its new home at Ellington AFB, Texas, in a building far more suitable than the old Bolling AFB facility. The Corporation received a new chief executive officer when Colonel D. Harold Byrd replaced General Carl Spaatz who retired in April after many years of service as National Chairman”

     

    Steve Thomas

    Linda J. Minor writes in her blog: Quixotic Joust

    http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/06/other-uranium-explorers-in-texas-in.html

    “Other Uranium Explorers in Texas in the 1950's “

     

    “Jerrell Dean Palmer writes: "In 1952 the entrepreneur [Byrd] began to phase out Byrd-Frost and organized the Three States Natural Gas Company, which was purchased by Delhi-Taylor Oil Corporation in 1961."

    https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fby13

     

    The United Press reported in mid-March of 1955: "Byrd Uranium Corp. had a new charter from Delaware Thursday making it a wholly-owned subsidiary of Byrd Oil Corp., President D. Harold Byrd said. The new company, authorized to operate in Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Texas, will examine uranium prospects on the oil company's extensive holdings in the Rocky Mountain region."

     

    It would have been during this period of time that George De Mohrenschildt's resume * reflects he worked for Three States Natural Gas in the Rocky Mountain area and in the Uintah basin.

     

    * COL. LAWRENCE ORLOV: EDUCATIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL RECORD

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7491#relPageId=3&tab=page

     

    “During the period of 1949 – 1959 acted as consultant on various projects, namely in Haiti, West Indies... for Western Hemisphere Oil Corporation; in France... for Three States Natural Gas Company...” “July, 1946 to January, 1949. Field Engineer for one year and then Chairman of Rangely Field Engineering Geological Committee, Colorado.”

     

    George DeMohrenschildt worked in Rangely.

    Orlov was with DeMohrenschildt when they first sought out the Oswalds in 1962.

     

    Steve Thomas

  17. On 6/7/2018 at 9:48 AM, Steve Thomas said:

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/1959_80AF25CF0E76A.pdf

     

    Memorandum to: Each member of Congress

     

    In compliance with provisions of Public Law 476 of the 79th Congress, I am forwarding herewith the annual report of the Civil Air Patrol of 1959.

    Stephen D. McElroy

    Brigadier General, USAF

    National Commander

     

    “On 8 August (1959) the National Headquarters opened for business in its new home at Ellington AFB, Texas, in a building far more suitable than the old Bolling AFB facility. The Corporation received a new chief executive officer when Colonel D. Harold Byrd replaced General Carl Spaatz who retired in April after many years of service as National Chairman”

     

    Steve Thomas

     

     

    Steve Thomas

  18. 16 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

    “Corsicana Daily Sun” from Corsicana, Texas March 31, 1970 Page 10

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/41268447/

    “The building (the Texas School Book Depository) is owned by the Dallas Trust Corp. The majority stockholder of the firm, Col. D. Harold Byrd, 69, has decided to liquidate some of his holdings.”

    https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/1959_80AF25CF0E76A.pdf

     

    Memorandum to: Each member of Congress

     

    In compliance with provisions of Public Law 476 of the 79th Congress, I am forwarding herewith the annual report of the Civil Air Patrol of 1959.

    Stephen D. McElroy

    Brigadier General, USAF

    National Commander

     

    “On 8 August (1959) the National Headquarters opened for business in its new home at Ellington AFB, Texas, in a building far more suitable than the old Bolling AFB facility. The Corporation received a new chief executive officer when Colonel D. Harold Byrd replaced General Carl Spaatz who retired in April after many years of service as National Chairman”

     

    Steve Thomas

  19. A History of the Texas State Guard” by Colonel Curren R. McLane

     

    Members of the Special Staff of the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps were:

    Judge Advocate Section: Col. Charles O. Betts, Austin.”

     

    Austin Sunday American Statesman Newspaper Archives

    Sunday, June 04, 1950 - Page 19

     

    Judge Charles O. Betts, former 10th District commander, told the group of the State Guard’s service during the war years, and of the legislation which continued the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps in permanent status subject to active service at any time the National Guard may be called into federal service.”

     

    More on Charles O. Betts:

     

    http://www.texastotheworld.com/the-lbj-murder-conference/

     

    Regardless, the jury found (Mac) Wallace guilty of murder and eleven of the panelists wanted the death penalty while one suggested life in prison. The judge in the case, Charles O. Betts, issued a “jury verdict notwithstanding” and gave Wallace a five year suspended sentence.”

     

    http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKjohnsonJ.htm

     

    The jury found (Mac) Wallace guilty of "murder with malice afore-thought". Eleven of the jurors were for the death penalty. The twelfth argued for life imprisonment. Judge Charles O. Betts overruled the jury and announced a sentence of five years imprisonment. He suspended the sentence and Wallace was immediately freed. “

     

    John Simkin in the Education Forum December 2, 2006.

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8715-david-harold-byrd/

     

    “In 1944 Byrd founded Byrd Oil Corporation and B-H Drilling Corporation. In 1952 Byrd established the Three States Natural Gas Company. Byrd later sold Byrd Oil to Mobil and Three States to Delhi-Taylor. Byrd used this money to invest in aircraft production and established Temco. A company that employed Mac Wallace after he was convicted of killing John Kinser.”

     

    John Simkin in the Education Forum December 3, 2006, quoting Richard Bartholomew (http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_i...e/rambler3.html)

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8715-david-harold-byrd/

     

    “Mac Wallace, who received a five-year suspended sentence in the shooting death of John Douglas Kiner in Austin on October 22, 1951, went to work for Temco, Inc. of Garland, Texas five months after his trial. He remained in that position until February 1961, four months before Henry Marshall's mysterious death on June 3, 1961, when he transferred to the Anaheim, California offices of LTV.

    Still more LTV intrigues were revealed by Peter Dale Scott: "A fellow-director of [Jack Alston] Crichton's firm of Dorchester Gas Producing was D.H. Byrd, an oil associate of Sid Richardson and Clint Murchison, and the LTV director who teamed up with James Ling to buy 132,000 shares of LTV in November 1963.”

     

    “Corsicana Daily Sun” from Corsicana, Texas March 31, 1970 Page 10

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/41268447/

    “The building (the Texas School Book Depository) is owned by the Dallas Trust Corp. The majority stockholder of the firm, Col. D. Harold Byrd, 69, has decided to liquidate some of his holdings.”

     

    Steve Thomas

  20. On 6/5/2018 at 10:26 AM, David Josephs said:

    His visibly handing out leaflets... the fight with Bringuier, the discussions on the radio... and the faked trip to Mexico all go to providing Oswald Bona Fides as he gets deeper and deeper into the groups of Cuban supports of Castro.

    The DOD was all over Oswald's FPCC connections as well

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    Steve Thomas

  21. Just now, David Josephs said:

    Doesn't it make sense that the FBI/CIA would be "In" on the creation of this "committee" for the sole purpose of identifying supporters of the concept...

     No doubt members of FPCC were true Socialist/communist supports of Fidel... but I'd guess over 1/3 of the members were agents looking to catch Commie supporters...

     

    David,

     

    You're right, and that crossed my mind too. Why would the CIA, or FBI need Oswald when they were already burglarizing their offices and opening their mail, and like you said, 1/3 of their members were informants anyway.

    They didn't.

    They just let Oswald think he was important in that effort to infiltrate the organization. Someone once described Oswald as a "useful idiot". Another said, "Poor Oswald, he didn't know who he was working for."

    Oswald was double crossed.

     

    Steve Thomas

  22. 46 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

    I too think that Oswald ‘s connection to FPCC is important. It looks on the surface as if the future patsy was garnering credentials which would lead to a post assassination invasion of Cuba and removal of Castro. But there are some problems with this in my view. The main one is that a failed assassination attempt easily blamed on Castro would have worked just as well. Why kill JFK if removing Castro was the goal? 

    Paul,

     

    I don't think that anything less than a successful assassination would have resulted in the invasion of Cuba. The removal of Castro was important, yes; but he was only a by-product. The Cubans would have just replaced him with someone else, like his brother. The ultimate goal was the invasion and occupation of the island itself.

    Think geographically. Cuba is the gate to the the Caribbean and thus to the southern hemisphere.

     

    Steve Thomas

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