David G. Healy

regarding this specific subject matter there is always a reason for looking "official-dumb," grants perhaps?

we can opine re Garrison till doomsday, Blackburst... what IS clear is this, lone nuts see the WCR slipping away from them. It ceased being a "report," now it's a contested, flimsy article of blind faith.

wonderful and thank you, Lee Farley!

1. JFK was warned to stay out of Dallas or else he'd be killed. 2. JFK went to Dallas anyway and was killed. 3. The authorities whose responsiblity it was to properly investgate the crime failed to do so and instead covered it up. and its been downhill ever since...

the latest book (just a little something I heard around town): 2012 US Presidential race Barack Obama - 4/6 Mitt Romney - 5/1 Rick Perry - 5/1 Michele Bachmann - 16/1 Tim Pawlenty - 25/1 Sarah Palin - 33/1 Jon Huntsman - 33/1 40/1 bar Republican nominee Mitt Romney - 13/8 Rick Perry - 13/8 Michele Bachmann - 6/1 Tim Pawlenty - 14/1 (withdrew) Jon Huntsman - 14/1 Sarah Palin - 14/1 25/1 bar

I haven't been paying much attention to the Republicans but it seems that Perry is a Texas Republican who fits the Bush mold and maybe even more to the right. I'm sure that Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie have a more moderate Republican waiting in the wings who they will drag out after all the others knock each other out. Maybe they will take our New Jersey governor Chris Christie off our hands. I'm sure the NJ teachers would love that. you're stuck with Christie, Bill. Most of America demands a charismatic leader that (at least) looks physically fit... (we do have minimum standards in the hinterland)

http://www.straight.com/archives/contributor/7 http://alienatedinvancouver.blogspot.com/2007/08/adrian-mack-is-great-let-it-be-known.html great material.... thanks for the links, John Simkin

can't help but love New O'lens...

Perhaps a bit of "Summer at the Jersey Shore" is called for, Bill? Happy birthday youngster..... David Healy

Easy. Simply by the weakness of your rhetoric and the lack of sophistication in your insults. Right...Truth be damned. Exactly. Good to know that the truth has no value to Hogan. He is yet another slave to a warped ideology. Let us not forget that much maligned *warped* ideology: the WCR. You're stuck with it dude, actually, for that you've earned my pity. Why (if they choose to) professional image compositors (light magicians - sleight of hand alters of reality) can run circles around lone nuts and non-alteration film-photo fanatics on a regular basis. That's why its called an art-form, Studley. Appears you nutters (and .john mcadams) have forgot your primary argument. Focus hon!

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y

isn't Murdoch's stake in Sky News at least 35% already?

when the work is classified as OPINION and/or THEORY fine, when the work is stated as FACT and/or PROOF...... and not verifiable 1st generation film-photo material-- of course! That's a reasonable benchmark.

Mechanics are called: the art of optical film printing some passed the motion picture art-form from generation to generation... clearly an art-form from Out of the box thought? Perhaps, square in the middle of the box, thinking that is....so BRAVO.... Any thing is possible in the world of film special effects. We have a flawed Warren Commission Report (who doubts that these days). LHO's guilt is hotly debated. Appears we have a flawed Zapruder Film, yet, we're to discount on-site (Elm Street-Dealey Plaza) eyewitness testimony.... typical of lone nut, FLAWED logic... yes, its possible the Zapruder film is/was altered.

perhaps you can tell us when you viewed the alleged in-camera Zapruder film original at NARA? Verifying no frames were or have been removed? You watch "altered film-video clips everyday. BTW, Any 'Hollyweird professional' optical film printing technician of the day (circa. 1963-64) could remove 36 frames from the Zapruder film and you'd be none-the-wiser. That's their job dude, alter, fix, mend, repair original film footage. In other words, bring location-studio footage in-tune with the script. Dig?

Focus son.... Simply post a 1st generation (supplying proof of same) film-photo frame supporting your contention, that way reasonable folks can conclude as they will.... lone nut/non-film-photo alteration(IST) noise is no longer sufficient Craig, what are you afraid of? You own opinion? Your own lone nut clan?

Once I stop laughing I'll respond in the "Deniers" thread. Instead why don't you tell us WHY it"s NOT motion blur since all the internals of the two photos show us exactly that. Poor cliff you can't even see the telltale marks of motion blur in both frames and how it increases from one frame to the next. And it not just a tiny bit of blur, its pretty large. And while you try and wrap your head around motion blur, why don't you explain to us how it works as it pertains to light and dark areas within a frame of film. iI you can't explain this simple factoid, well you just get tossed onto the dustbin of history. Oh wait, thats were you reside now... BLUR? Surely you can post a 1st generation frame with blur that one can compare to, yes? No sense fooling around here, give the lone nut to much wiggle room and you get lone nut nonsense. So post that 1st generation image, those of us that KNOW can make simple comparisons. We'll require the images lineage also, ya been dancing too long Craigster, let's see what ya got, son! Or do we just have more lone nut noise for the Z-film uninitiated?

sure thing, Steve....

The questions have changed somewhat, but the above is a good start/ Pigpen? Hardly. Do a few whackos post there? Yes. As well as here, I might add... One should state, for the record, alt.conspiracy.jfk is STILL the only un-moderated, JFK assassination related forum on the web. EVERY post is censored on AAJ! .John McAdams left alt.conspiracy.jfk (ACJ) to form alt. assassination.jfk (AAJ) in Nov 1997, he took a few CT's whom saw the (WCR if you will) light and formed AAJ Dec 1997. And yes, Toddy is Todd Vaughan -- one of the few longtime, lone nut nemisis I could do business with. one whom certainly knows the WCR, one whom David VonPein could learn lessons from (except of course when it comes to setting up examples of LHO shooting prowess, especially tests with non-moving sandbags... Perhaps you'll look forward to questions based on Bugliosi's RH, those are on the drawing board and forthcoming in the future? So Jim, if you'd like to yak at Ben Holmes, drop me a note at aeffects04@gmail.com.

Jim, I will pass this on, see if we can't fix you up with all 45... at one time all 45 questions appeared here on the Ed Forum. 2-3 years ago...

too bad you, David Von Pein, avoided CONSISTENTLY Ben Holmes 45 questions at alt.conspiracy.jfk (the 45 questions have been posted here on this forum, which you avoided). Those questions deal SPECIFICALLY with "reasonable non-conspiratorial explanation"s. Yet, you ran from those.... and here you are posing with the term, a confirmed CTer has made popular during past years on the USENET. I'll also point out there's isn't one lone nut that has dealt with those 45 questions in non-conspiratorial explanations, including, none other than: .John McAdams who feebly tried, when pointed out he failed, he ran back to his censored forum, alt.assassination.jfk. Sad state of affairs. Things must be getting thin in the lone nut world.

Yea, Don, Let's get back on topic here. While Bugliosi, Posner, DVP and Tom Hanks are all Americans who I disagree with, they certainly aren't "stupid," and I take offense that you continually insult Americans, and wonder how you can be a moderator without noting on your profile what nationality you are, and how the other moderators let you repeatedly insult Americans? As to your assertion that the American public are so gullible and "are incredibly unwilling to think for themselves," especially about this subject, since Bugliosi said that his purpose was to convince people of the truth of the Lone Nut scenario, he has failed, as over 80% of Americans still know there was a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy. And I politely request that you tell us members of the stupid American general public what nationality you are, and I ask that the moderators explain how you can be accepted among their ranks while repeated asserting your personal bias that Americans are stupid. Thanks, Bill Kelly Bill, I happen to fully agree with Don's opinions, after all, Budweiser is the "king of beers" and Coors Light is also curiously popular in these United States. Maybe "shallow" is a better word than "stupid" when attempting to describe the majority of our countrymen, but my experience is that the French voters run rings around most of us when it comes to identifying and voting their own best interests. Isn't a clear sign of stupidity manifested in the crisis of wealth inequity in this country? The wealthiest 20 percent of U.S. households owned 87.7 percent of all private wealth, per a study by the Levy Institute released two years ago. The triennial, Federal Reserve studies of wealth distribution fully support that statistic. The reaction to this is manifested in the actions of the governor of New Jersey. Championing policies obviously further weakening the consumer class. It is a wave of "reform" pushed successfully since Reagan's first term, and the haves are now triumphing politically and economically over the have nots, while an astounding number of our misinformed countrymen cheer for more of it. So Bill, even thought the actual crisis is the fact that 20 percent of households own 87.7 percent of the wealth and the bottom 50 percent own just 3 percent, doesn't it seem a sign of stupidity that so many embrace the idea that domestic consumption can somehow be stimulated by supporting a political solution intended to lessen wealth inequity? Did I mention that the French enjoy a model, state engineered, univerasl healthcare system, or that the minimum wage in France is $13 per hour and the poverty rate is half what it is in our great country? I watched Newt Gingrich propose defunding the NLRB in a farcical "debate" recently held at a New Hampshire college. Wasn't it after the creation of the NLRB to uphold the labor reform legislation enacted in the mid 1930's that Americans last experienced a lessening of wealth inequality strikingly similar to what the French people have managed to effect through their thoughtful voting decisions? In response to your demands for fuller disclosure, here is a link to my maternal grandfather's genealogy.: http://wc.rootsweb.a...keats&id=I06065 His mother's direct ancestors landed in Massachusetts in 1632. emigrant John, his son, Thomas, his son Nathaniel, his son Benjamin, his son, Abel (revolutionary war veteran), his son Janucey, his son, Orrin, his son, William, his daughter, Emma, her son, my grandfather, Edward..... If I recall accurately, your were asked to join the moderation team of this forum, but you declined to volunteer your time. You are a smart guy, and it is my privilege to be able to interact with you, but in this instance, I hope you can sense my reaction to the sentiments you directed at Don while I attempt to avoid posting what is on my mind in any more detail. Have a happy and save 4th of July. Hey, you guys are right, most Americans really don't give a crap about the revolutions going on, or whether we - the United States - should support them or our old friends the dictators, and for the most part, those who get the smallest portion of the big money pie really don't care or want a piece of the bigger chunks. And since Tom and Don, both American moderators, can trace their lineage in the USA back to the 1700s they should know that the US interests in Tripoli began in late 1700s when North African Barbary pirates began to plunder American ships and enslaving their crews and demanding ransom and tribute. In response the stupid American public responded with the simple slogan, "millions for defense and not one cent for tribute," and Congress reluctantly approved the budget for the construction of a fleet of warships and a Navy to go fight the pirates. And today, while that budget is obscene, and we don't need a nuclear force any more, or invasion armies, we do need a Navy and special ops corps to protect Americans from bullies and tyrants. Life Youseff Karamanli, the tyrant of Tripoli who was the first foreign leader to declare war on the USA, by cutting down the American flag outside the US consulate in Tripoli. He remained in power after we defeated him in battle because of the liberals in Congress who didn't want to finish him off. So over a century later, when the American Navy put into Tripoli, and held a memorial service at the graves of American naval heroes from the first Barbary War, the mayor of Tripoli - Youseff Karamanli - a direct descendant of the tyrant, was still in power. So today, are we going to assist the democratic revolutionaries who only want what we have - freedom, liberty, justice and democracy, or are we going to listen to those who know little about the history of our two nations, and let al Qaeda and the Islamic extremists take over and reimpose a security state? As someone who has studied the situation in Libya for the past decade, and with personal interests there, I know where my allegiances are. Those who are merely against war and for peace at any price, also give up the ideals that we considered worth fighting and dying for in 1800. And indeed, Happy July 4th to everyone, especially our British, French, Canadian and Australian allies, and those who have fought with Americans for those ideals whenever they were threatened. Americans weren't always viewed as the warmongers and imperialists, but those who could be depended on to be on the right side of the fight. BK AMEN....

its a general understanding, when a felon is on parole, permission to leave the state he's been paroled to is required BEFORE he leaves that state? Showing up in Dallas with a hi, I'm here, is a no-no. According to Noyes, before leaving California, Braden had informed his Los Angeles parole office that he'd be traveling to Dallas. So he had done what was required. He didn't just show up in Dallas. Then, when he arrived, he was letting that city's authorities know -- nothing nefarious, part of his parole requirements. That's the problem with assuming Braden is part of the assassination detail. Highly unlikely, since he shows no quality of the "sneaking around" so characteristic of the other players in the drama such as Oswald, Ruby, Ferrie and the rest of the cast. my concern is answered... thank you

its a general understanding, when a felon is on parole, permission to leave the state he's been paroled to is required BEFORE he leaves that state? Showing up in Dallas with a hi, I'm here, is a no-no.

me thinketh Mr. Phelps since you accepted this assignment you protesteth way too much. Z-frames were transposed, that is a given, now what do you call that, son? And for what reason? IF that happened, what else, Dude...? alteration [ˌɔːltəˈreɪʃən] n 1. an adjustment, change, or modification 2. the act of altering or state of being altered You're living by faith in flawed evidence, Mr. Phelps. A long term, lone nut failing.