David G. Healy

Dr. John Costella's new article: What Happened on Elm Street? The Eyewitnesses Speak 116 pg's. w/quotes & citations in .pdf form http://www.assassinationresearch.com/arindex.html

Harry, Nice to see you still out there -- Happy Holiday's David Healy JFK Research Forum

why of COURSE you think its silly...... we know about film/photo lineage... facts being what they are, I think I educated you on them....eh? And, I heard ole Bob Groden had a tough Thanksgiving weekend -- rumor has it he sounded atrocious on the web.... fact or fiction? I'm sure you were there, he-he.

Charles wrote: Bingo!

I have a Tom Blackwell photo of the culpret, Big Tex, who appears to be a lone-nut. Will try to post. BK http://www.n5gar.com/11-22-2007-2-13-26-PM_0037-Dealey.jpg http://www.n5gar.com/11-22-2007-2-16-00-PM_0045-Dealey.jpg ************************************ All I gotta say is that it's a good thing I wasn't there to have witnessed that fiasco, because I would've wasted no time in dragging and kicking his sorry ass off the pergola, in a heartbeat! Of course, being arrested for assault and battery would have been worth the effort, but I probably wouldn't have made it out of Dallas alive, either. Those redneck peck'o'woods are beyond repute. From the photos Tom Blackwell sent me, it looks like there were only a couple of dozen people there, and the only "Circus" was Big Tex, who certainly wasn't an outside aggitator. I guess that's just part of what JFK meant when he said, "We're in Nut Country now." I don't understand how Duke can say John Judge and the COPA people there should have "divorced" themselves from Big Tex. How do you divorce yourself from a hovering giant in a cowboy hat? BK The City of Dallas is still atoning? Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if *Big Tex* was homegrown, right there in Dallas-Ft. Worth area. And prompted locally too! The 6th Floor Museum has ceased being a monument to a slain President, some suspect the City of Dallas wants it gone!

good job, Bill heard only your segment... David

I think it's worthwhile to note that, if in 2007 the interest of the media in JFK's assassination seems subdued, that in 2007, the interest of the public - at least that attending the memorial ser-cus - seemed likewise subdued. I was one of only maybe 100 people there. Were it not for the presence of a high school hockey team, I might put the number at half or three-quarters that. I think I saw one actual TV camera, tho' a couple of mobile units did drive by, perhaps seeing if there was anything to shoot. And they missed it! Someone came up with the brilliant idea of having a 10-foot "Big Tex" - a guy in a costume similar to the Texas State Fair's mascot - standing around the pergola near "Zapruder's perch" during the entire ser-cus. While nobody admitted to being the perpetrator or knowing who it was that came up with this stunt, I can only say that the good folks from COPA made no effort to distance themselves from the huge dummy, but rather stood with their banners facing Elm Street and railed against a local journalist who called this memorial "service" a "circus" (see below) and about the important work they were doing ... all with Big Tex waving in the background! Couldn't they at least have gone over to the other side of the pergola? Or was this their way of proviing it was a circus, by "mocking" the columnist's mockery? D'oh! Yessir, these folks should be taken seriously! (This does not necessarily reflect my opinion of COPA, but seriously: what were they thinking!?!) Of course, Thanksgiving intervened and probably kept many people away who might otherwise have been there, but once again: if there's little coverage, it's very possibly because there seems to be little interest. At least this year. At least by anyone "serious." Just ask Big Tex. From The Dallas Morning News In the absence of official JFK observance, we get a circus By Jacquielynn Floyd Tuesday, November 20, 2007 People may drift down to Dealey Plaza on Thursday, but there won't be any official ceremony or city-sanctioned observance to mark the 44th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy's assassination. It's not a tradition that ever took hold here, and the absence is understandable. Dallas, which endured its own unique grief in the years immediately following 1963, may well have been too traumatized to mark the anniversary. By some accounts, the city – and, later, The Sixth Floor Museum – have deferred to the Kennedy family's longstanding wishes that the date not be observed. And after all these years, public grief has largely given way to a general relegation of this terrible event to memory. There are many Americans who remember that day in bleak detail – but there are probably more now who don't. In fact, I can think of only one reason why the city might, at this late date, consider organizing an officially sanctioned event to recognize the worst day in its history. Just this: Too often, on Nov. 22, people have gone to Dealey Plaza in a genuine and respectful spirit of remembrance – and have found an embarrassing, exhibitionistic carnival. In the absence of any structure, the date has become a high holy day for conspiracy cranks, a swap meet for oddballs to peddle their strange obsessions. The grassy knoll isn't just a magnet for people who want to bend your ear ad nauseam about the Warren Commission report; now it attracts people waving banners extolling such offensive sentiments as "9/11 = INSIDE JOB." This is not a suggestion that anybody's First Amendment rights be curbed. People get to air their crazy ideas if they want to, even if it's tedious and obnoxious and nobody wants to listen. But it's a cruel shame that people who feel a genuine desire to visit the site to pray or meditate and remember the slain president have to put up with a chaotic, disorganized circus on this, of all days. Four years ago, for instance, my colleague David Flick visited Dealey Plaza on Nov. 22. "In the absence of any structured events," he wrote, "proceedings ... were dominated by conspiracy theorists." He described a confused scene of at least 5,000 people, some of them apparently expecting a formal program. Instead, there were noisy crackpots and publicity seekers. The headliner among them was former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, who bellowed that he was the "only elected official who had the courage to come here today." A marching drum band showed up unannounced. Conspiracy theorists set up microphones. TV helicopters buzzed overhead. Festive pranksters popped open umbrellas on a prearranged signal in a "flash mob" event. If the date and place had attracted only genuine mourners and historians, it might have been a moving, spontaneous observance. The cranks and partiers made it silly and disrespectful. That was the assassination's 40th anniversary; round numbers have powerful appeal. If the scene was this tawdry for 40, what do you suppose 50 will look like? Here's a promise: A lot of people are going to show up, whether there's an official observance or not: camera crews, trinket vendors, mourners, tourists, conspiracy theorists, attention seekers and possibly street jugglers and reality-show contestants. In the absence of any other consistent tradition, this is the one that seems to be taking hold. The way things have been shaping up in recent years, 2013 will be a major blowout for the wackos. Neither Dallas nor The Sixth Floor Museum is obligated to plan an "official" assassination observance, for 2013 or for any other year. Maybe it's better to let Americans observe the sad occasion as they see fit. But they might want to think it over. If there's going to be a public gathering, it ought to have some focus and purpose beyond grabbing some free publicity. It ought to have dignity. enjoy.... The City of Dallas wanted to end their embarrassment regarding the assassination. Buying into the TSBD/JFK museum concept, isn't working out as well as they'd hoped.... it will probably get worse before it gets better (if ever)....

congratulations one and all... in advancing the JFK assassination case awareness level ...... Bill, the availability of Randy's 'full' documentary is? Hi David, I don't know what the availability will be. There was suppose to be a screening of Randy's film at the Texas Theater in Oak Cliff this week, but that was cancelled and instead they will apparently show Stone's Oswald's Ghost. Randy's film is about JFK assassination researchers, so like SOS, I'm sure there are limited outlets for such documentaries. Will let you know when I find out. BK thanks guy..... we could use a few lines about the Jersey shore...

congratulations one and all... in advancing the JFK assassination case awareness level ...... Bill, the availability of Randy's 'full' documentary is?

based on the ebay image, the windows appear blacked-out, I suspect the image is a fraud... no names, no dates, no camera make and model -- buyer beware!

Lee, Thank you! The verb "Helicoptering" isn't my invention. The whole article was written by Frank Caramelli, I used the same verb as Frank! That's all. good to see you still out there, Marcel.... KUTGW David

Marcel...his theory is nuts. The Bothun photo shows that the white blob in the grass is the backing from one of Mary Moorman's Polaroids. I have posted the image numerous times. Jack Jack.... while going through this thread a question popped up, Polaroids needed to be treated with a fixer when taken, immediately after they came out of the camera. Do you recall Moorman commenting on: if, when and where she treated her 11/22/63 Dealey Plaza polaroids? thanks, David

then perhaps he can tell us, thank you! After all, Bill Miller is a self proclaimed expert concerning films and photos of Dealey Plaza... unless of course you are too?

If you watch the film in the wider mode ... Greer has his right hand on the wheel and as he turns back - his left arm coat sleeve is down by the drivers door panel and never reaches across his person so to shoot at anyone. praytell, WHAT is the wider mode? Geeeesh, you certainly can tell those that know film formats, and YOU aren't one. 4:3, 2:1, 16:9 c'mon Bill.... LMAO

Let me answer for Wild Bill.....I know he won't mind, it's a 'EGO' thing Claudio, I need to stand out!

Len Colby' penned..... [...] Isn't this the onboxios sort of behavior that got Jack put on moderation? Perhaps he should be put back on it? [...] ***************** your usefulness for the Lone Nut side of the JFK assassination was shot down when Roland Zavada told you he did not need your assistance.....

xxxxx on, David. Last year there was a joke made about the alteration guru and we know who that is. Groden is speaking there this year and he has said to me that he welcomes your questions. Bill Miller by all means, when can we expect, eh-hmm, Mr. Groden to appear on these pages?

sincere condolences to family members and Charles Drago. Professor Evica will be missed.... David Healy

Most who post at this end of the Education Forum, namely the JFK Assassination section are NOT interested in scholarship, critical thinking, or teaching about [or concerning] the assassination. Most here are beyond reason. Most here understand that the WCR IS the "chaff". And finally, most of us do NOT consider this FUN. In fact some consider this W-A-R. There are as many agendas here as there are posters. Yes, even John Simkin and Andy Walker have agenda -- and I suspect you do too! Welcome to the cover-up of the CENTURY

Is that the one that Groden gets invited to speak at ... I think it is? In fact, he is speaking there this year. It would be a good time to dazzle him with your film expertise in some Q & A. the question for you was simple: You ever show your face at COPA? I'll add, as a speaker or ATTENDEE. You've nothing to gain hiding behind Groden....

David, I think I heard that there was some discussion about that and someone said that 'The Double Talker's Club' was meeting in Fort Worth that night and that you were chairing the event. If that was incorrect information, then contact the Museum to see if they can make room for you. But when they ask if you'll attend for sure - don't tell them that you will attend and then say you won't attend or they may figure that your seat might be better served giving it to someone else. Bill Miller nah, I'm unwelcome at those Dallas types of festivities (although I was asked once to speak at the Lancer November gig before TGZFH of course). I also suggested [years ago] the TSBD be razed, grass planted on the site, a simple white cross in the center of the lawn (similar to RFK's Arlington gravesite) and a simple plaque stating: On this site, a *conspiracy* against a defenseless man was played out. From the TSBD building, one of many gunman shot at AND killed John Fitzgerald Kennedy, President of the United States on Nov 22nd 1963. The murder remains unsolved to this date - 1997. I can't remember if that was before or after I suggested to Gary Mack, it looked like he had a good radio type personality... As for you, I'm sure you'll make a good TSBD front door greeter, gott'a start somewhere, buckoo... btw, who is doing the JFK tour bus gig this year. You ever show your face at COPA? I understand real JFK assassination researchers hang there.....

Michael Hogan posted: THE SIXTH FLOOR MUSEUM is open daily except Christmas Day. Admission is $13.50 U.S. for adults, including a 45-minute audio guide, available in seven languages. 411 Elm St., Dallas. 214-747-6660. THE TEMPORARY EXHIBIT, "Filming Kennedy: Home Movies from Dallas" will showcase silent moving images, running from Nov. 12, 2007, through October 2008. The Zapruder film will be shown here in its entirety for the first time. Nov 10, 2007 Jo Matyas Special to the Star [...] *********************** I BET the Zapruder film will be shown in its entirety, which version is my question... After all, the MPI DVD Z-film is a alteration of the *alleged* [NARA housed] in-camera Zapruder film, is it NOT? I can't find my invitation for this special event, must of misplaced it..... I bet the City of Dallas can't wait for this season's Mavericks basketball to be well underway.

Thanks, David ... the 5 or 6 say nothing about JFK material related responses that you have blessed this thread with has been a contributing factor in us reaching that goal. Bill Miller specifically interested in the Zapruder film, Bill. Oh, and watching you dance, of course

Bill Miller'wrote: hell, if you stop now you won't make 20,000 looks, eh! Gotta be a record.... you don't want Miles or anyone else for that matter stop posting to this thread!

No Doug Weldon research interview concerning SS-100-X ?