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Hi Jim, Sandy and all: I sent the e-mail below to PBS Nova. I also contacted their ombudsman. The issue is still pending. More about that critical topic here: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,13480.0.html -Ramon ======================================= From: Ramon F Herrera To: Christine Russo (PBS Nova) Subject: Precise Measurements of Dealey Plaza Hi Christine: Thanks for your kind assistance. I will soon meet my peers, a group of people interested in creating a 3-dimensional model of Dealey Plaza with every distance, angle, etc. being publicly available, on the Internet. We already contacted the Dallas County and requested the floor plans and related information. However, as far as we know the most accurate measurements ever were done by NOVA’s Cold Case team. Kudos to you. With the utmost respect, we believe that it would be a tragedy if those numbers remain locked up in some computer at NOVA or elsewhere. That is the gist of it. We can write a formal letter, in paper, with the developers of Dealey Plaza computer models signing it. Best regards, -Ramon F Herrera Houston, Texas -
Douglas: That is very bad news. It has all the looks of a continuing charade. I wrote down the name of the journalist, Olivia Quintana. The Boston Globe is a small exception to the silent MSM, for obvious reasons. I would like to take this opportunity to ask an important question: If some of us has some material worthy of generating a newspaper story, who would be the journalist and media? In fact, we should keep a permanent record of friendly journalists. Thanks, -Ramon
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Hi Bart: Do you do 3D design? -Ramon
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Pat: It is important to clarify something that helps your argument, and I must concede It is absurd trying to conflate the elite universities with the rest. Let's say that all of them are tasked with the following: "Using the most advanced, leading edge science and state of the art technology, determine the origin of the fatal shot that hit president Kennedy and issue a report" The following will not happen: - College Aarvard presents its study. [here, alphabetically, we have the results of 2,000 universities] - University Zulu presents its study. What will happen is that 99% of institutions will say: "Since RPI has a close association with MIT, we will co-sign whatever MIT says". - Other lesser colleges will vote for Harvard. - The California schools will endorse CalTech (which ended up as best university in the world recently) or perhaps Stanford. At the end, only a handful will be left. Science is by nature elitist to a fault, extremely competitive, not populist. -Ramon
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Pat: I guess I have to explain again the meaning of INSTITUTIONAL (*). Additionally, I am referring to numeric, repeatable, peer reviewed stuff, not opinions. It is completely irrelevant if poorly educated people have no idea, as long as the genetic procedure saves their lives, their iPhone works and the GPS takes them to their destination. Science believes in the ignorant, regardless of whether the ignorant people by you mentioned (claimed) do not believe in science. Modern civilization relies on it. -Ramon (*) A study signed by Alvarez vs. a study signed by Berkeley. Not quite the same thing. In fact, they are the opposite in credibility.
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Ramon F Herrera November 18, 2015 at 5:17 am “The universities did not sell their name and reputation and that makes me proud of them.” =============== Ronnie: This is not to say that the response of the universities was blameless. Far from it! They should be ashamed of themselves, as they were complicit with their silence. The most famous, the epitome, is Harvard, which proudly carries the motto “Veritas”. Yeah, right… Veritas my rear bottom! Let’s attempt to find an excuse on their behalf. There has to be a reasonable explanation for their inaction, right?. This is probably how a standoff position was reached: Universities: “This is not our party, we have not been invited. Prof. Robert Blakey decided which companies and people were to be hired." (some would call it “bought”). (In the HSCA FPP -Forensic Pathology Panel- Blakey had no option but to leave one dissenting voice, doctor Cyril Wecht, join the otherwise exclusive club. Thank God that his professional and human integrity is not for sale). To sum things up: Those were Détente times, so for half a century our top institutions of education and research reached this one with the government: “Don’t ask, don’t tell”. The coverup agents to university deans: “Okay, let’s be reasonable here. You know very well that we can cut the flow of grants and apply many other kinds of pressure. We can make life very uncomfortable for you and your professors, but we won’t force you to certify our results. We won’t ask. As consideration for our generosity, you will not tell.” The big question is whether that state of immobility remains and makes sense today. -Ramon
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Folks: The following is from the JFKFacts forum. It is perhaps THE most important post that I have made all these years, not only about the JFK case, but in general. ============================================= Tim Nickerson November 15, 2015 at 2:46 pm “THE JFK MYTHS: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination” by Larry M Sturdivan ============================================= Ramon F Herrera November 15, 2015 at 7:58 pm [Tim Nickerson:] “A Scientific Investigation” ----------------------------------------------------- Tim: Mr. Sturdivan and his acolytes do not even know the meaning of the word “Science”, let alone its principles, values and practices. For starters: Not unlike love, Science is not for sale. ============================================= Ronnie Wayne November 15, 2015 at 10:04 pm Ha! Science has been for sale for years. The Government and corporations pay much better than Academia. Have you read the recent revelations about Exxon and global warming, their suppression of scientific opinions? The “science” used in JFK’s autopsy was if not so sadly abused by control of it laughable. Why no probes, why no dissection of the throat and back wounds? Common forensic practices: Why did they not use practicing forensic pathologists? (yes, Fink was a called in late, and his notes were stolen). ============================================= Ramon F Herrera November 16, 2015 at 4:15 pm Hi Ronnie: You are referring to “science”, while I am referring to “Science”. For the difference, see the discussion about the 3D model of Lee here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22356 What we see in Dartmouth is almost Science with a capital “S”. Not quite pure, but close. Do you know the bright spot in all the shameful prostitution that went on during WCR, HSCA, ABC/Myers, etc.? The universities did not sell their name and reputation and that makes me proud of them. Notice how an individual person can sell his dignity. Luis Alvarez is a perfect example. He was affiliated with: • University of Chicago • MIT • Berkeley • (plus, he would have been welcome in any top university) and yet NONE of them wanted anything to do with his snake oil, Jet Effect. He would not dare to insult his peers, asking for institutional support. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Walter_Alvarez The people in charge of the coverup have always stated: “Nobel Prize winner Luis Alvarez, such and such, blah, blah”, but they never dared (or will dare) to say: “The Jet Effect, confirmed by MIT, Harvard and Stanford” It was not only Alvarez: similar statements can be made of Sturdivan, Lattimer, etc. Companies can also be bought, wholesale, on the cheap. See Itek Corporation as a prime example. Call me naive, but I believe no money, pressure or threats would force our best institutions to lie. The government did not dare to go that far and THAT, in itself, is one of the best evidences of conspiracy. If anybody knows of a university (good one) which sold out, institutionally, I would be happy to know about it. ============================================= Ramon F Herrera November 16, 2015 at 5:37 pm The following comment deserves further clarification: “What we see in Dartmouth is almost Science with a capital “S”. Not quite pure, but close.” I have always said that when it comes to the truth, the *only* reference is our universities. That is trivially easy to prove (See "voodoo" comment in my previous post). In an ideal world, the backyard photo mystery would have been solved and accepted by everybody by now. There’s a sine qua non requirement, though, see imaginary announcement below, with the critical, missing requirement in uppercase. “Dartmouth College (not some professor!!) announces the results of its study about the photograph of Lee Oswald. ALL THE FILES USED, SOFTWARE, NOTES, etc. HAVE BEEN POSTED IN THE FOLLOWING WEB SERVER: http://cs.dartmouth.edu. Universities and individuals are invited to participate”. A few months later, the truth would be determined DEMOCRATICALLY as we read in the press: • “Stanford University opines the following:” (i.e., confirms or denies) • The results of Harvard University are [such and such]” (again: confirm or deny). • “The Massachusetts Institute of Technology announces ….”. • [plus, the best universities of Europe and elsewhere] Ronnie: The only bigger truth than the one described above would be God's, but since he is not talking, what we have above is the ultimate truth. That is not only the best solution, but the only solution.
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Hi Sandy: You have touched THE most important question about this and any investigation. This happens to be a central part of my life: the search for the truth. In fact, the question is not even "what is the truth in case xyz"? Is "abc true or false?". The fundamental question is your personal ROUTE to the truth. How do you decide who (persons and institutions) deserves your trust and who doesn't? Interestingly, that subject was covered in the last course that I took in Venezuela, a month later I emigrated to the US, to get a university education and guess what? The FIRST course that I took in the US also covered the same topic. This is a maxim of mine, the first statement is what I learned and appropriated from those courses: ( a ) When it comes to the Truth, the only reference is our Universities. ( b ) The better the University, the more Liberal Q.E.D. (please let's ignore statement ( b ) for the time being!). To those who express doubts about ( a ), I tell: This issue is VERY easy to settle. What alternative to universities (education, science, logic, etc) do you offer? - Bible Thumping? - Voodoo? - "Because I am your mother and I say so!!" - Despotism? - Common Sense? - Magic 8 Ball? - Nancy Reagan's Astrologers? Please read the following posts, beginning with the one by Tim Nickerson and the exchange between Yours Truly and Ronnie Wayne: http://jfkfacts.org/whats-the-one-thing-people-should-read-or-view-on-november-22/#comment-828348 I will post a more complete answer as soon as I can. Thanks for bringing this up. -Ramon
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This is how the Frontal Shooter (or lack thereof) will be determined in an incontrovertible, accurate and scientific way. Stage No. 1: It may take a few years for the science to be developed but this is the way to do it: https://goo.gl/jTy69B (SBT. This is solved with technology) https://goo.gl/da4mcQ (Head Shot. This is solved with science - See inside "Documentation" folder) The result of those projects will be the creation of an OPEN infrastructure where all the interested parties will test their hypotheses, place the rifle(s) in some location and shoot: BANG! They will be trying thousands of combinations with varying angles, distances and calibers, recording the effect of each. I predict that at that time, both the Jet Effect and the Sewer Drain Shot will be early dismissed. http://jfkfacts.org/gun-man-sewer-shooting-jfk/ Stage No. 2: The great news is that the science is already here. It just arrived. As we all know, the Jet Effect has been widely debunked. The last explanation left to the Warrenistas is the "Neuromuscular Reaction", right? I came up with the following idea. Visualize a train that starts to move in the remote distance. It has 2 locomotives, one at each end. We can watch it, film it and measure it in slow motion. The problem to solve is this: Was the train moved by the front locomotive (pulling) or the back locomotive (pushing)? The Parkland Effect posits that the head moved as if hit by a baseball bat, and therefore the chain of movement is: bat --> head --> neck --> shoulders --> torso In the Neuromuscular Effect (dismissed by all neurology specialists, but we are still obligated to study it from the point of view of Physics) the chain of movement is: neck muscles, back muscles --> head, torso (randomly, supposedly the muscles of the back are stronger). IOW: The cause and the effect are reversed. What we need to do is simulate to a high degree of precision the 2 competing alternatives. Was the Head of JFK Pushed or Pulled? https://goo.gl/6woICd As you can see, I have very few files in that repository, but a new venue has been started. The longest trip begins with one step. Next, I intend to contact the 3 authors of that research project and talk to them about using their remarkable development in the solution of the JFK murder case. Obviously, if the request came from somebody (hint: some body) more representative than "Ramon Herrera, immigrant and JFK geek" it would have more effect. Furthermore, it is my duty to inform the community about my experience in similar projects, one which has become a routine/pattern. Early on, the genius scientists (young people, mostly) are really excited about the JFK case. Soon afterwards, some wiser/prudent adult (the head of their group?) warns them, instills fear, and after that, they are not replying to my e-mails or phone calls. With people overseas I have been much more successful. -RFH
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Here's the step-by-step plan. Yes, it is increasingly difficult. ( 1 ) I get the widely available lower quality copies of the 2 X-rays, ask National Archives to Fedex them directly to the research lab in Germany. I don't even want to touch anything. ( 2 ) The experts emit an opinion about the feasibility of the project. At the very least they should be able to: (2a) Determine whether the two isometric x-rays indeed are a match. (2b) The borders of the defect should be much more accurate than what I have now. (2c) In addition to an empty cranium (of an average person), they can provide a model of JFK, in NRRD format: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22405&p=317762 ( 3 ) Attempts are made to get high quality, digital copies. ( 4 ) The resulting 3D model is donated back to the National Archives. All sides of the JFK Community will be invited to participate.
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This is what doctor Chesser, who handled the originals recently, has to say: Where can I find the 2 main autopsy X-rays (front and side) in the best possibly quality and detail? http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/index.php/topic/1736-where-can-i-find-the-2-main-autopsy-x-rays-front-and-side-in-the-best-possibly-quality-and-detail/?p=9888 -Ramon
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Pat: Did you read the second e-mail that The National Archives sent me? It essentially says that the decision is up to the Kennedys. A letter will be written and sent to Caroline. The only unknown at this point is whether it will be public or private and the people who are going to sign it. An Internet petition is not out of the question. -Ramon
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From: Gene Morris xxx@nara.gov To: Ramon F Herrera ramon@patriot.net Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:11:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Autopsy material, high quality copies of the X-rays Mr. Herrera: Once you have Mr. Kirk’s approval to proceed, we might have to approve the use of the device beforehand, as I’m not sure it’s currently approved. Dealing with the photos and other (that’s a technical function outside my normal duties) but I believe it would be possible to make high quality, digital copies, should the request be approved. Gene Morris Archives II Textual Reference Branch (RDT2) ======================== [underscore above is mine -Ramon]
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I just received this, and would like to place it on the public record. ===================== From: Gene Morris xxx@nara.gov To: Ramon F Herrera ramon@patriot.net Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:22:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Autopsy material, high quality copies of the X-rays Mr. Herrera: This is in response to your December 2, 2015 request for information about the records of the JFK Assassination Collection, Specifically, you are seeking copies of JFK’s autopsy records and the associated X-rays. The autopsy photographs and X-rays of President Kennedy were donated to the National Archives by the Kennedy family by an agreement dated October 29, 1966. This agreement limits access to such materials to: (1) persons authorized to act for a Committee of Congress, a Presidential Commission, or any other official agency of the Federal government having authority to investigate matters relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and to (2) recognized experts in the field of pathology or related areas of science and technology whose applications are approved by the Kennedy family representative, Mr.Paul Kirk. Paul Kirk’s address: Paul Kirk PO Box 1433 Marstons Mills, MA 02648 The JFK Assassination Collection does not contain pre-mortem X-rays of President Kennedy.
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Some notes: The reason I keep on mentioning Dr. Joseph Riley is because when I joined this forum, I discovered his -shall we say "vintage"- web site. http://jfkhistory.com/riehl/What_Struck_John.html Being somewhat of a perfectionist, I found it to be of very poor quality and even repaired his PDF document. Next, I tried to contact him. Several people in the forum helped. The consensus was that he was probably dead. Long story short, he had a kick when I told him that (he is in his youthful 60s). The readers helped me locate him. Since I have some background in 3D computer graphics, I got the idea: "Hey! Those X-rays should be projected in 3 dimensions!". This is the current result/status of the work, with the help from you, forum participants: Isometric to 3D Projection https://goo.gl/cZ7Axr [Enter into the "3D Models" folder] The defects carved in those craniums are guesses. You will notice that the folder "Reconstruction by Researchers and Their Algorithms" is conspicuously empty. Well, our job is to fill up that folder. -RFH
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Summary: So far, the score is 3 to 1, against anybody being allowed to see the X-rays in high quality, digital copies outside the National Archives building. EVIDENCE AGAINST: (1) Dr. Peter Cummings, Forensic Pathologist, Boston University. This is from the PBS Nova Cold Case JFK documentary Can the American people see the JFK autopsy x-rays in high quality? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLawLMl0JiY (2) Dr. Michael Chesser, Neurologist http://assassinationofjfk.net/a-review-of-the-jfk-cranial-x-rays-and-photographs/ (3) Dr. Joseph Riley, PhD in Neuroscience. In an e-mail he told me: "Let me clarify: I don’t have copies of the x-rays; no one does. What I have are copies of the exhibits used by the HSCA (including their reproductions of the x-rays). I have 8x11 in prints of most of the medical evidence and 4x5 in negatives for the x-rays as well as prints. I got them from the National Archives but that was many years ago; there may be better copies available now. I just don’t know." http://jfkhistory.com/riehl/What_Struck_John.html So far, the news is bad, correct? That's is 3 to 0. Don't despair, though! There is reason to be hopeful !! See EVIDENCE FOR in my next post. -Ramon
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I am 100% incompatible with Mr. Trump. (1) I am Hispanic/Latino: http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Hispanic-GOP-Views.png (2) Mr. Trump claims that Lee murdered president Kennedy, acting lone. Will not release any documents. (3) I am a firm believer in Capitalism and Free Markets. Mr. Trump wants to destroy NAFTA. (4) I have the utmost respect for the US Constitution. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/donald-trump-constitution-opinion-213458 (5) I am as straightforward as you can get, never speak in dog whistle tones. (6) Dealing with women, I am a gentleman to a fault. Was groomed as a caballero.
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Two inches!? Wow! The expression "know how to pick your battles" comes to mind. Let me put it in a different way: Do you know the distance (and angle) between the sniper's nest and the Grassy Knoll? Answer: A heck of a lot more than 2". The angle is almost 180 degrees, as wide as you can possibly get. Call me lazy, but we engineers prefer to find express solutions. There is no quickest, more direct solution than solving the tragic frontal shot. The only problem with it is that there is a LOT of science -some being invented as we speak- required (fancy simulations). Meanwhile, cracking/exposing the SBT only involves: ( a ) Accurate measurements of Dealey Plaza ( b ) A nice 3D Model ( c ) Some basic Trigonometry (in Euclidean space, no biggie) -Ramon
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Thanks for your post, esteemed Cliff. If you go to the Open Source 3D Model of Dealey Plaza Project's Google Drive: https://goo.gl/jTy69B [Click into "Support Files | Videos"] ... you will find 32+1 frames that I extracted from the PBS Nova documentary. Using the right and left arrow keys you can see them in a movie-like fashion, depending on your Internet connection. Even better: you may download them one at a time (I will pack them in a zipped file later, for your downloading convenience) and you can use the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer to play them, forward and rewind. The entrance hole matches the autopsy photo and shirt bullet hole very well, I am afraid to report. Even worse news: the weird neck used by snake oil salesman extraordinaire Dale Myers: ... has been upgraded, replaced by a normal, straight sitting JFK (as the last picture of him, a second before the shot shows). Here's a fact for whose assertion I have gotten a lot of flak: The LNs are getting very sophisticated and we are being left behind. The reason is simple: See my OP above and look for the term "Sugar Daddy". -Ramon
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Pat: Did you see the folder with 32+1 frames from the documentary? You can download them all and see them in a movie-like sequence. They make a darn strong case about the trajectory (*) of the SBT. Of course, we would need the measurements, which are locked up, inside a safe, like the Coca Cola formula. For some unexplained reason PBS has decided to take over the role of the National Archives (**). I am still waiting for a reply to my letter. -Ramon (*) I am not arguing about the timing. The LN trajectory seems to be flawless. (**) As in "POSTPONED IN FULL"
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Gals & Gents: I just received this DVD: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html and am trying to decide what to do about it. Rip the whole DVD? Upload only the most interesting/critical parts, so we can argue about them in turn? I am open to requests. The full transcript is in the above URL and the video, below: https://goo.gl/jTy69B [Click into "Support Files | Videos"] For now, I uploaded the part that concerns me and Mark Messer -the head designer of the Open Source 3D Model of Dealey Plaza the most: the laser measurements. Mark may tell you otherwise, but I am green with envy, jealous beyond belief. Our 3D Model is the most detailed ever, the only one which is Free, the only one which receives requests from you folks, but ... - Dale Myers had his sugar daddy: ABC News - Mike Haag & Tony Grissim had their sugar daddy: PBS and the Koch Brothers. Meanwhile, all Mark and I have is Science & Technology, honesty and the fact that this initiative (as opposed to the above) is: - Of The People - By The People - For The People -Ramon
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I have not found a photo of the Dr. Pepper machine yet and the only box for empties that I have is situated next to the Coca-Cola machine. I just discovered that the names of companies in the corner of N. Houston and Elm: ALLYN AND BACON ?? AMERICAN BOOK CO. GREGG PUBLISHING LYONS AND CARNAHAN McGRAW HILL BOOK CO. THE MACMILLAN CO. SCOTT, FORESMAN AND CO. SOUTH-WESTERN PUB. CO. Are all school book publishers (duh!). -RFH
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I learned about the Dr. Pepper machine recently. There's lots of info about it in the DVP site. People have fun repeating the slogan in the poster above the vending machine: "Things go better with Coke". Thanks! -Ramon
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Thanks so much, Tom! This was the topic of my next post. Just when Mark Messer (head designer and my boss) and I were frustrated about the lack of accurate data (he is in Sweden and I tied in Houston) we discovered this extraordinary resource, thanks to the Mary Ferrell Foundation folks: http://www.maryferrell.org/photos.html?set=WCD-TSBD (There are 3 CD ROMs) Notice that the FBI agents were very futuristic: the pictures include scales, compass and the location and direction of the photographer. I am guessing that they said: "Look, some years from now, they will invent something called the Internet, each person will have a computer and they will create 3D models." :-) -Ramon
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Now the bad news. In the matter of the presidential limousine we have not made as much progress as we would like. See this thread: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22435 I made a deal with this company: http://humster3d.com/2011/05/24/lincoln-continental-x-100-1961/ If we provide accurate blueprints, they will incorporate whatever modification to their product. So far they have been very receptive to my requests, which have been fulfilled in less than 24 hours. For instance, I thought the color of the limo was black, it turns out it was midnight blue. Their version lacks the all-important jump seats (they asked me to send them a list of requests). Speaking of color: are the back seats blue and SILVER? So far, I have contacted: • The Ford Motor Company • The Lincoln Company (subsidiary of the above) and these folks: O'Gara-Hess & Eisenhardt Armoring Company http://www.ogaramobilesystems.com/ with no response yet. Here's another possible (but suboptimal) source for the blueprints: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/10/04/pair-of-jfk-lincoln-limousines-one-real-and-one-clone-head-to-auction/ Please look into the "Vehicles" subfolder and provide suggestions, facts, photos, etc. -RFH
