Kirk Gallaway

Thanks Greg, Doesn't that capsulate what Bernie's got going for him that no one else has to near the degree? All this ginned up hype of fear that the"Deep State" allegedly has of Trump that his complete political neophyte followers claim on their first rodeo. Multiply that by 10 and you would see the true deep state coming out the wood works in the October before any Presidential election where Bernie was the Democrat nominee. Though that's not to say that all those interests are illegitimate but first, they have to be brought out in the open. .

I remember when the rumors about U.S. Biological weapons labs in Ukraine first went around. Then I saw Tucker Carlson perpetuate it, saying that we put labs in other countries to avoid treaty obligations. He implied it was sort of like having other countries do our dirty work. Now they're striking this up again. The areas of East Europe, where East meets West have always been a fertile ground for some neo n-z- movements. Some periods have been more problematical than others. I was recently in Sarajevo, I did a tour and also went to their Holocaust Museum from their civil war in the 90's. The tour guide and the fellow in the Museum reaffirmed some of the same information. They still have neo n-z-s in Bosnia Herzgovina and there still is some occasional tension. The tour guide wanted everyone to know that there were many centuries of religious tolerance in Sarajevo, with all the major religions living in peace very close to each other like no other city in Europe. One fact you'd never hear much from West Europeans, until more recently. They both told me there's been no trust of Putin practically anywhere in East Europe for decades and that as much as they deplore Putin's invasion of Ukraine, and they were both just happy he didn't invade them. We hear about the 86 day siege of Mariupal. But back in the 90's Sarajevo was under siege for 1425 days, or 4 years!, and their only supply lines were through a narrow tunnel.

I agree W. It would be good to get an indictment out there, and test Linsey Graham's hypothesis. I say bring it on! My guess is that they're cowards and their bark is worse than their bite. Remember how they were threatening all hell to break to lose on Biden's inauguration day? I knew that would be a non event, though I did wonder if they'd pull something at the state capitols, but that turned out to be a non event too. There could be some terrorist activity for a period of time though, and the putting out of fires. Whose to say that it hadn't already begun and how many of these mass killings really have had some political origins up to now, like the guy in Highland Park?

Yeah, obviously a joke. Very funny Gerry. But I did take the time to track her down and her turnaround is rather uplifting. She completely left behind a sordid past and unlike the fake Marguerite, dared to live a vital life to a very late age. In the course of her life she married a several more times and attained notoriety as a relationship counselor to young people. Never give up! https://youtu.be/ENTiMnGpTck

Wow! I was scrolling through channels. Apparently this Trump speech was on Newsmax! When I started reading the article, I thought I might see it live. But it was over. Then I look at Newsmax next 3 hours of programming. 9:00 Momo: The Sam Giancana story (Momos involvement in the assassinations of Marilyn Monroe and JFK) 10:00 Marilyn Monroe:fascination 11:00 JFK's Women: The Scandals Revealed They obviously see a marketing bonanza and a ready group of right wing suckers among the JFK conspiracy crowd!

Ben keeps saying this, though it was Ben who first posted Lindsey Graham's "riots in the streets"comments. It's hard to dislodge Ben of his being 180 degrees wrong on this because he first bought this macro idea that the "Deep State" is promulgating civil war in order to oppressively crack down on their opposition. That was the first serious talk anyone had here about "civil war".

That's what I thought. Thanks Gerry

What I've noticed from you Bill, Is that you post with little snippets. So it's apt to become this perpetual scrolling conversation. Why don't you highlight a few of Myers points and make your arguments for them in some depth? Or take one point you feel is major and try to drive it home? I thought we were going to confine this to the Tippit murder but Ok, now that we're not. Obviously there's a logical answer to this question. Can anyone please answer. Why wouldn't it now be easy to verify if the bullet went though 2 bodies simply through dna testing? After all, they are able to test the dna of dinosaurs?

Ben's Russia Gate hero and favorite all time AG, William Barr, (because Trump picked him) finally puts his foot down and says Trump had no right to steal government documents. As if anybody would have disputed that 7 years ago under Obama. But in the current Trump lunasphere, Ben and the other Trump Anons would grant Trump unlimited power to do about anything.

To get back to the initial thread. Russ Baker's story fits in with demonstrating a common illusion about the MSM being "threatened" by the JFKA Conspiracy community. Baker's harbors no such illusion. He's merely accounts the ostracism and general eye rolling he experienced when having dinner with a group of elite MSM publishers. As wrong headed as that resistance is, that is the nature of the resistance to be overcome. I like Russ Baker. I've talked with him online. But his appearances with Alex Jones is a black mark. Just as Oliver's Stones son Sean continual appearances with Alex Jones destroys his credibility. Thank God, Oliver Stone never felt the need to go on with Alex Jones. But as it is, isn't he enough discredited that he came out of a 8 hour interview series with Putin a complete Putin gaga and then spends probably a couple of million, maybe of his own money to make a movie promoting Putin's Ukraine nazzification claims and in essence, give him support and cover for his brutal invasion of Ukraine? A nazzification charge that has turned out to be thoroughly debunked as the populace later overwhelmingly elected a Jewish President with 80% of the vote and dramatically turned over 3/4 of their Parliament! I think a lot of us would welcome such a housecleaning in our Congress as well, and we've never elected a Jew as President either. But apparently Stone was not impressed. And as if that isn't bad enough. Then he goes on to glorify the ex Ukraine President Yanukovych in exile in Russia in his Putin provided Dacha in a long interview, after he pilfered his country for what? Some have alleged, billions of dollars and left behind an opulent estate, and still Stone seems to be doubling down. You don't even have to be a major supporter of the War in Ukraine to know how silly he looks.

Certainly no one here has complained about rising fuel costs more than you Chris. I understand your problem. Chris: What the state will do is make all of these people out to be anti-democratic, right wing revolutionaries and they’ll want to thwart them under domestic terror laws. So this is how you're government is handling these protests and you're projecting on us that we must be doing this as well? What would you have your government do to alleviate your fuel situation, inflation, shortages and so on? Do you know?

Steve, I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if that's the original carpet? Mar a Lago is 95 years old. I wonder if it started out as a casino, or a brothel? This was a little puzzling about the Russian Moguls deaths. Former vice president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead in April of a gunshot wound next to his wife and daughter at their Moscow home. Authorities said they suspected the incident was a murder-suicide. You're almost lead to believe from this sentence, it was a triple murder -suicide! *** Gee, my condolences Andrew!

Hey, let's give Trump-a-nons what they want! Lets go all the way with this Hillary witch thing!

Ben to W.: Did you ever tell a patient, "Look, get a lot more exercise and reduce alcohol and sugar in your diet. Then, let's see where we stand?" Whew! How about adding "get off nicotine, and go cold turkey and get off that heroin habit and then get back to me." What kind of therapeutic approach is that? People come because they seek help. That's the first trace I've ever seen of "Tough Love" Ben. With all the rationalizations you passively make for Trump, Have you ever thought of just putting your foot down with Trump? But at least now I can see you put your foot down somewhere. Which is good! I was thinking, Gee, I hope Ben doesn't have a son or he could be a real hellion! But then: Ben :I was just thinking, as a layman, step one for anybody is diet and exercise. That's kind of a wimpy back down, considering you plaintively blasted your post with such a big headline and font, and then presumed to ask W. what you seem to think was such a profound question. Hmmmm You sure you weren't drunk? heh heh heh

I'm no fool! I'll take the photogenic hearsay over the ugly, 5th amendment li-r anyday! heh heh

Right Matt, right after Ben last night floats a story that Superman Hero Computer Whiz Donald Trump hacks into the FBI files on "Crossfire hurricane" and absconds the files to Mara Lago and is currently holding the FBI hostage to the damning information he uncovered, and Ben believes it enough to float it here.. Let me clu ya Ben. The people who sucked you into that one were the wide eyed Trumpies who early on were obsessed with idea that Trump was playing "3D chess" with all of us. Rather than acknowledge the mess he's in, they concoct another Trump Superman story to keep the Bens and the "Q" grass root support, and also keep the wealthy donor money rolling in.. "A sucker's born every minute" P.T. Barnum

Except Trump can't keep a secret, and hasn't been forthcoming about anything yet. And you haven't been right about anything yet. including the fact that it's actually been the right that's been calling for a civil war. But will they be willing to trade their liberty for the greater security? We'll see how that goes. heh heh Ben:But it makes you scared. You're always scared. And we always have to hear about it. I knew you and Wheeler were a match made in heaven.

Hehe well Put W! And I loved the "Trump and his cultists demand transparency!" ha ha! They certainly need a lot of tending to! Ok, to mix it up a little bit. Let me post something that's way off topic but I think some people here might really enjoy it like I do. THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD: EVERY YEAR Actually it's human history! Let's not insult the planet! It took us quite a while to come out of the cave or get past the starting gate. But once we engaged. There was no stopping us!

That's right Tracy, you notice he goes from, I don't know, perhaps finding an empty office somewhere? to "Ruth Paine has always been a CIA agent". That's quite a leap, with no chewy caramel in the center. It's worth bringing up, but it's like a number of stories here, until he and his story is fleshed out some more, to me he'll just be another old Jack Klugman doing another "Quincy". heh heh Interesting find Jean Paul! I thought the date of RP's leadership was earlier. Then I browsed the Wheaton article, which talks about RP's involvement starting around 1991. But the Contra War was over by 1990. A CIA backed "pro Democracy" candidate Violetta Chamorro beat Sandinista Daniel Ortega in 1990. So this was never going on in the jungles during the thick of the Contra War. I guess I should have realized that. As a young man, I crossed the Nicaraguan border in a car during Somoza's reign in 1976 to be processed by a bunch of army recruits in dilapidated barracks, toting M-16's, and then again with my car in 1980 after the Sandinistas had taken over to find bright new offices manned by a bunch of what looked to be middle class people my age with U.S. made posters of Sandino and Che Guevara on the walls!

It's the same pattern over and over. You're absolving Trump of any responsibility for his actions, and saying we're just being diverted, or we're somehow being manipulated by the msm, because we don't want a President who absconds with government files and either refuses or hides the fact that he's not giving them all back. This thread is largely commenting on current news and Trump in the news as result of his own actions! As I said before, it's obvious it really always upsets you when Trump is being criticized. That's not a desirable condition, I would say to that, bite the bullet, and get a candidate whose not a perpetual embarrassment to you.

The easiest way for the corporate state to swindle Ben out of his lifelong benefits as a U.S. citizen is to tell Ben the National Security State is fighting for Ben to keep his benefits! Game over! Do you ever suspect you've been diverted? Trump has nothing to do with your true political interests. There are actual issues that involve more than personalities. Your political beliefs are based solely on parroting the examples of your idols and being on the other side of their enemies. It's a bit more complicated. Learn the ABC's of you political interests. From what I've seen most people here have a pretty good idea where their interests lie. This below is where your interests should lie, If for some reason in life it's not. I'm sorry, but please don't deny us our interests.

Also a complete accounting of what loans have been forgiven to Congress men or women would be in order. Repubs and Dems, but at least the Dems won't look like complete hypocrites.

Right on Ron! About Texas, Good luck to Beto, Let's start ridding Texas of their fascist overlords!

Whew! Eureka, I have found it! If this isn't a cudgel the Democrats can use to batter the Republicans in the Congressional races, I don't know what is!

I think there are true things said on both sides. I've mentioned this before, but I take issue on the commentary we've heard for years ,largely from Jim that JFK was a great liberal hope "hence Destiny Betrayed" but JFK was always primarily a centrist for his time. He was a popular president who was going to face an easy reelection, largely for the hawkish reason that he stood up to Khrushchev, so he combined the social progress outlook of the day with a strong cold war stance. Even so there wasn't a great groundswell for JFK in 1964. His policies were measured, all Democrats talked unabashedly like liberals back then, (unlike the 50 years following the 70's!) and Michael's right, the liberal party was was an automatic endorsement. Michael:JFK was determined to do all he could to save South Vietnam but that he did not want to introduce combat troops, that he had every intention of providing South Vietnam with all the weapons and supplies they needed, and possibly air support, even if he eventually decided to withdraw all American troops. I think Micheal's right here. But he seems to downplay it as if not wanting to introduce combat troops is something small, when in reality, that's a lot! When LBJ did aggressively introduce combat troops, we went into an almost 10 year war where we lost 55,000 people and wreaked destruction on millions!. The difference between them would have been monumental! Michael:However, in his 1964 oral interview, Bobby allowed that JFK may have decided to introduce combat troops if South Vietnam had been on the verge of collapse. Yeah, I personally think that's just Bobby cold war posturing. I think when the reality presented itself, JFK would have ducked out, and taken some heat for it. I don't think that would have happened. But because no one would have known what the outcome of fighting the Viet Nam War turned out to be. JFK wouldn't have been given the historical credit he would have deserved for not introducing huge numbers of ground troops. So he wouldn't have been riding a great peace wave. And it's hard to believe that JFK's charisma. alone would have been enough to stop the race riots of the 60's. That was just inevitable. Conversely, Jim never has given LBJ any credit for his civil rights legislation even though it was greater than anything a Northeasterner like JFK could accomplish. It's true Bobby was important to the JFK administration taking out the arms length between JFK and MLK, and he would have been in a great position to do more if he were to be elected President. The JFK Presidency arc could have been good, but not overwhelming. Any idea that the JFK Presidency could have a strong effect on our present history inevitably has to include the idea of RFK being elected for another 8 years. I think he would have been a much greater activist. The greatest, perhaps naive hope anyone could have was that Bobby could have so zealously gone after social justice, and lived to tell about it, while bigotry was backing up a little bit, and perhaps we could have won a messy battle and come out more to the other side than we did 100 years earlier under Reconstruction and we wouldn't have to deal so much now with people who have been causing us trouble for the last 150 years. At least that's my opinion. But perhaps too much had to go right to make that a realistic possibility.