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  1. 21 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

    As John Newman told me:  "Jim, by the end of 1962, everybody hated Kennedy."

    Everybody that had interests that JFK threatened.

    That left half the country that was admiring of him and falling in love with Jackie Kennedy.

    The most beautiful and glamourous first lady in American history...by far!

    Jackie was what...only 34 years old in 1963?

    Compared to the other and much older first ladies in the 20th century ...

    Edith Wilson, Lou Henry Hoover, Eleanor Roosevelt, Bess Truman, Mamie Eisenhower ... Jackie was a Venus.

    Beautiful, super well educated, classy and stylish to boot.

    The entire world had become infatuated and enamored with her. Billions of people!

     

     

     

  2. I too wonder what would have come about in our country if JFK had lived and been re-elected in 1964? And the same with Bobby in 1968.

    I don't think the average American was even halfway aware of the true extent of special interest power battles going on in this country between those interests and JFK and RFK after JFK was elected in 1960.

    Power battles of unprecedented intensity, yet never presented as such in the MSM. Kept behind the scenes in that way.

    Of the top 12 power groups and individuals in this country ( who up until 1963 really ran things behind the scenes it seems) JFK and Bobby were considered the greatest threats to their power, wealth and control that they had ever encountered.

    The military old guard. The MIC which had their way to make tens of billions of dollars every year. Our intelligence agencies. Hoover. LBJ.  WASP old wealth and banking set.

    The wealthiest men on Earth...Texas Oil. Organized crime which had grown to unfathomable power, wealth and influence.

    One third our citizenry which was rabidly segregation minded and hated JFK for his more liberal stances on civil rights equality for blacks. Hot headed Cubans who felt JFK had betrayed them in the BOP.

    If JFK had not been removed...those adversaries would have probably found JFK more of a threat to their interests in his second term than his first!

    JFK was going to implement his adversarial policies with a fuller commitment than he did in his first term. He wouldn't have to hold back for re-election reasons.

    This group of JFK hating adversaries ( which when combined was huge ) would probably have become even more desperate and aggressive in fighting JFK and RFK over their efforts to not only keep them in check, but to even dissipate their monopolistic power which Eisenhower had warned the nation about in his farewell speech.

    Describing this Military, Industrial and Congressional complex which had grown to possess unwarranted unelected power and influence that threatened our very democracy.

    JFK and RFK did not realize the true depths of seriously minded physical danger they were in just during JFK's first term alone. Imo anyways.

    All those highest power groups who felt threatened by JFK and RFK played for keeps.

    If JFK had survived and been re-elected and continued to confront them as he did in his first term...he and RFK both would have had to hunker down with unprecedented security the likes of which even they would have a hard time accepting.

     

     

     

  3. Trump opening up the JFK files?

    Just another dangling of candy he thinks might win him some votes.

    Would he deliver?

    Just reported on several internet news sites is an interview of a former Pennsylvania Mob boss.

    He says he had to deal with Trump and Trump screwed him. Atlantic City Casino stuff. He trashes Trump. A man you could not trust at all. 

    When the Mob says you're a POS...well....

    At least America knows Trump dealt with the American Mafia is his business dealings.

  4. 4 hours ago, Paul Cummings said:

    I don't believe it's Lansdale. Granted the person is walking away from behind but it does look more like Cord Meyer than Lansdale.

    Cord Meyer?

    Well, one thing I am sure you agree with me about.

    The man walking in the grainy picture on the left, is the same person depicted on the right.

    Same "everything!"

    Height, build, head shape, haircut, gate ( leg movement exactly the same ) slightly stooped posture, suit type and color, distinctive white collar and even shoes etc.

    Check the folds in the lower back right side pant leg when the two photos are shown side to side. Exactly the same!

    Same with the indented fold in the upper back left thigh side of his pants.

    No doubt at all these two pics are of the same person.

    And I agree it is a worthy question, where the heck is this guy going?

    In the tramp walk picture he is headed to the end of the Texas School Book Depository building where there is only an open parking lot.

    I believe that lot had been closed off so he couldn't have been going back to get his car from there.

     

  5. 12 minutes ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

    @Benjamin Cole I dont know how many ways to same this. The OLC is unit of DOJ which is a hugh organization that is manned by professionals.

    Garland is briefed on the work of each unit by its senior staff but he relies on his assistant attorney generals to make sure the work is done properly.The AG does not get involved in executive orders unless he is asked by the head of OLC. They will come to him if there are issues. 

    The office of the executive (EOP) contains the NSC among others. Sometimes the president or EOP asks OLC for an opinion (e.g., the torture memo) to support a particular policy. I suspect this also happened with the student loan forgiveness policy. OLC tends to try to accomodate POTUS on his policy requests.

    With the JFK Act, NSC was tasked with leading the effort since this obstensibly involved national security. NSC led the meetings, worked with the other agencies and drafted both the recommendation by the archivist to the president as well as the executive order. it is an orchestrated process.

    Unless someone called up Garland and told him there was seriously wrong with the executive order, he would not get involved. this is why we have layers of bureucrats. Only the issues that cannot be resolved by middle management ever get to the AG or POTUS for that matter.  There simply is not enough time in a single day for the AG to review and approve every piece of paper produced by DOJ.      

    Thank you for making all this understandable.

  6. 48 minutes ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

    @Joe Bauer two bullet fragments were found in the front of the limo

    Thanks.

    So, those fragments from the JFK head shot bullet traveled another 5 feet and with total loss of velocity simply dropped down on the front seat floor?

    JFK's head was pulled down slightly by Jackie when it was hit and was on a lower level plane than both Kellerman's and Greer's heads 5 feet in front of them.

    So, obviously those fragments didn't hop over Kellerman's and Greer's heads and then drop down.

    They either went right between their bodies before dropping down ...or, again they were part of a larger fragment or another bullet that hit the upper windshield frame.

    That's my "elementary dear Watson" laws of physics deduction guess anyway.

  7. 1 hour ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

     let's not forget that fragments were found in the front of the limo. who knows what evidence was washed away if this is what happened.  

    Fragments of bone?

    Or fragments of a bullet or bullets?

    Since the bullet which reportedly went through JFK and John Connally was found virtually intact...any bullet fragments found in the front seat area ( on the floor or seat itself?) must have come from the JFK head shot, correct?

    That bullet went through thick skull bone upon entering JFK's head and did so again upon exiting, and in so doing exploded large flaps of skull bone outward as well as a huge cloud of pink colored blood and brain matter spray outward and upward that was so condensed it is easily visible in stills of the Zapruder film.

    How could anything left from that head shot bullet clear the Connolly's, the steel bar separating the rear seat area from the front seat area and then simply drop down onto the front seat area?

    Or, could any shell fragments found on the front seat floor have been from another bullet that hit the inner, upper windshield frame and left a finger tip sized and deep indentation with twisted surrounding metal in that steel frame?

  8. Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee discovers the Chief himself had already broken into Mary Meyer's garden art studio ahead of him just hours after Mary was gunned down on the river walk pathway in the middle of the day with no witnesses.

    Both looking for Mary's red book dairy?

    Now THERE'S a story worth pondering.

  9. 7 hours ago, Gerry Down said:

    One would have to question how dirty the front seats were in any case. Blood and brain matter did land on the backs of the two secret service agents in the front seat, but the area they were sitting on should have remained clean except maybe for the area of seat in the middle between the two agents.

    Good point.

    There probably wasn't any blood on the front seats. Now the seat under JFK and Jackie?  Now that was a bloody mess.

    Posner's credibility was famously shot when he claimed David Ferrie and Lee Harvey Oswald had no past connection at all and then the CAP Cadet camp out photo came out showing young Lee right there among the other boys in Ferrie's troop.

    How embarrassing to have a major claim in your first JFKA book totally debunked like that.

  10. 1 hour ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

    In any event, Trump was blustering to Stone,  Napalitino, etc.

    Trump blusters every day to everyone!

    He is the Barnum & Bailey ringmaster of blusterers!

    Step right up folks...Step right up!

    You're not going to believe what I am about to show you.

    Look at this ... General Milley's invasion plans for Iran!

    Yes ... the real deal!

    Right here in my hands! Rustle, rustle.

    Can you believe it?

    They're not declassified though ... so this is off the record.

    There are two areas of secrecy inquiry that even Trump is hesitant to take too far imo.

    The Alien ET one and the JFKA one.

    Although you can be sure that the keepers of the full file truth of those two secrecy subjects would never let a blustering loose cannon character like Trump see anything close to the most important aspects of them.

     

  11. I didn't think there was "anything" that Trump could keep his mouth shut about.

    Yet, something he saw ( or was given a summary about? ) regards the still held back JFKA files was able to put the fear of God into him enough to actually clam him up?

    Must have been one jaw dropping doozie of a secret. Or secrets?

    I did notice Trump never bringing up the JFKA much or at all in the last year or two of his term.

    When Trump ran in 2016 he couldn't mention Raphael Cruz's father enough as one of Oswald's "Free Cuba" leaflet passing crew in New Orleans during the summer of 1963.

    One can have fun speculating what Trump was made fearfully aware of regards who killed JFK and why?

    Maybe Doug Caddy's sharing of E. Howard Hunt's explanation that JFK was killed because he was considered a threat to releasing the greatest mankind importance secret regards the Extra Terrestrial visiting Earth truth?

    Every former president asked about the ET subject after they leave office says the same thing..."sorry, can't talk about it."

    Maybe JFK was considered too dangerous in his acid taking with Mary Meyer?

    Maybe the JCS decided JFK was simply too dangerously crazy in his seriously proposing some type of Detente with the Soviet Union?

    Maybe Bill Clinton was telling the truth in stating on one of our late night TV talk shows that there was a government besides our general election one.

    And they decide what an elected President can and cannot know about our greatest secrets?

    Stone cites JFK files released by Trump as stating that Oswald studied Russian at one of our military language schools in North Carolina?

    And that LBJ was once a member of the KKK?

    I consider Roger Stone one of the most abhorrent characters in our political history ever. His loyalty to Nixon and all the constitutional law breaking shenanigans RMN and his entire staff carried out for years is perverted imo.

    Yet, he tears apart LBJ.

    And I agree with everything he has said about LBJ and how totally corrupt and deviant he was.

     

     

     

     

     

     

  12. How about the following impossibly illogical incongruity:

    Jack Ruby.

    Shamelessly sobbing off and on in front of others "immediately" upon hearing someone shot our beloved president, including to his sister Eva on the phone. 

    He races to Parkland hospital while JFK is being treated there and stops well known newspaper writer Seth Kantor ( whom he knows ) to express his sorrow and ask Kantor's advice regards him shutting down his strip joint out of respect for the national tragedy loss. Kantor expressed agreement with Ruby's suggestion and testified to the Warren Commission that Ruby looked extremely distressed.

    Carrying on like that for hours including more sobbing after he returns to his strip joint Ruby actually shuts it down and angrily shouts at his calling in strip girls when they dared to ask why.

    Ruby is so emotionally effected and driven by the assassination he then thrust himself into the DPD building press crowd crush all Friday night to see if he can get close to Lee Harvey Oswald, including pretending to be a reporter complete with a Jacques Clouseau type glasses, note pad and pencil holding get up and acting and shouting performance.

    He continues his concerned obsession by driving around Dallas in the early morning hours after to take pictures of some JFK hate billboard to find out if a Jew had been so traitorous.

    Ruby later goes to his local synagogue to seek solace for his sorrow pain.

    Ruby then aggressively immerses himself "again" into the Saturday night DPD building and press conference crowd and upon it's conclusion even talks Dallas District Attorney Henry Wade into answering questions on the phone from a local radio personality Ruby knows.

    A man so wracked after a 3 day binge of sobbing tears of sorrow his obsession reaches insanity level where he crazily commits the ultimate final act of Jackie Kennedy pain protecting for her and her children by risking his life sneaking into the DPD basement press crowd and blasting Oswald's guts out right in front of and surrounded by 70 hair trigger anxious armed policemen.

    Now THAT is some deep love.

    Yet, the man holes up in a newspaper ad department the entire time of the downtown Dallas JFK/Jackie motorcade on Friday noon? 

    This man about town isn't inclined to walk just two blocks to see his beloved President and world class beauty wife icons in the flesh?

    Sorry but that hiding away action on Ruby's part regards totally avoiding a Dallas event of the decade showcasing his beloved objects of extreme affection is so illogically contradicting of his well known man about town character it shouts major, reasonable suspicion.

     

     

     

     

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

    In mid-May 1972 Hunt invited me to have lunch with him and Liddy at a private dining club for members of the Intelligence Community that was located in the Georgetown section of Washington. Liddy dominated the occasion with endless talk about his expectation to receive a high position in the Department of the Treasury in the second Nixon Administration. On the surface this made sense to me as he was Counsel to the Finance Committee for the Reelection of the President, was a former FBI agent and at one time had worked in the Treasury Department.  His non-stop discourse was interrupted by a man entering the dining room who was seated at a nearby table. Hunt then suddenly exclaimed, “There’s that son-of-a-bitch Cord Meyer.” Meyer was a senior CIA official whose ex-wife was a mistress to President John Kennedy and who was murdered not long after JFK’s assassination because she knew too much. Soon thereafter, Liddy excused himself to use the restroom and while he was away Hunt asked me if I had reached a decision about joining the CIA. I responded that I was still thinking about it.

    Thank you Doug Caddy for sharing this story again.

    Many members here, especially new ones, should know that you were right there in the middle of the Watergate break-in aftermath event. Called in to provide legal help for Hunt in the first days following his arrest. 

    Your character is even depicted in the very famous Hollywood A-list film "All The Presidents Men" starring Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman!

    That is an amazing and important historical connection you have.

    E. Howard Hunt's own children could not recall his presence in their home on 11,22,1963. 

    David Phillips reportedly confessed to his estranged and dying brother that he was in Dallas that day as well.

    William King Harvey? Who knows?

    That fellow walking across Elm Street toward the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza minutes after JFK was shot really does look like Hunt. His Georgetown set spy trench coat gives him away. His hat looks just like Hunts.

    Odd that Hunt came up with his own personal code name for the JFKA like "The Big Event."

    Has anyone "ever" come across anyone else using that same term for the assassination?

    Hunt had an imaginative spy novel mind. Guess he made up the "Big Event" name on his own?

    The Gerry Patrick Hemming look-alike does greatly resemble Hemming imo.

    Same block head. Same haircut.

    Very tall man. Hemming was 6 ft. 8 inches.

    The fact that Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee and James Angleton were both breaking into Mary Meyers art studio looking for her dairy within hours after her murder is a huge, huge red flag of intrigue imo.

    To have two men of their highest positions doing that shouts out the probable truth that there is much, much more to the Mary Meyer story than we have ever been told.

    More than her getting JFK to drop acid with her and seeing the spiritually enlightened pathway of peace seeking and promoting.

     

  14. I viewed Mary Dowling's interview on You Tube.

    Mary Dowling was a waitress at "Dobbs House" restaurant in Oak Cliff during 1962 thru 1963.

    She worked alongside another Dobbs House waitress Mrs. Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon who admitted having a 2 year long affair with Officer J.D. Tippit.

    In that interview it was mentioned that Mrs. Witherspoon lived on the same street that J.D. Tippit was murdered on.

  15. Thank you all for posting.

    All I can do is speculate and express my own opinion regards the Hunt confession story.

    My gut feeling is that there are still at least some reasons ( if only a few) to not totally dismiss Hunt's JFKA story.

    Yes, we all know about Hunt's disinformation specialty background as well as David Phillips.

    He was also a wannabe Ian Fleming and he had trained himself to write Bond type spy books with exaggerated stories and characters.

    Those facts certainly affirm his ability and possibly an inclination to have made the whole confessional up.

    And Hunt was very money orientated in his mid-career days.

    He obviously liked the good life for himself and his family. The Country Club lifestyle. Large estates in the country. Cadillacs, cigars, private schools for his kids.  He probably had his Bond type sexual dalliances in his travels.

    Hunt was clearly extremely financially stressed and desperate in his last invalid days.

    So it would make perfect sense that he wanted to get that one big last payday for his family before he died and needed to present Kevin Costner a great story to get it.

    All logical reasons to easily believe he made this guilty party JFKA story up.

    We all also know Hunt would lie his head off in the name of patriotic duty.

    G. Gordon Liddy same thing.

    Yet, there are some accounts mentioned by some in Hunt's circle that I believe collaborate at least a few aspects to his confessional story.

    Both Marita Lorenz and Frank Sturgis mention running guns to Texas and staying in safe houses on a Southern route days before the JFKA.

    Marita claims she dropped out of the group, sensing something too dangerous about it. 

    Hunt mentions this traveling safe house scenario at the same time.

    He mentions only being a "bench warmer" for the group.

    There was movement of covert agents through the South ( at that time ) according to all three accounts stating this.

    As imaginative as E. Howard Hunt was in making up stories I still think his LBJ, Cord Meyer connection was too specific.

    Why throw Cord Meyer into the mix?

    Very few people ever heard of Cord Meyer before Hunt's story.

    Doug Caddy told us that Hunt also didn't personally like Cord Meyer.

    He had something less than flattering to say about Meyer upon Meyer's entrance to a private club Caddy and Hunt were dining at.

    I've read St. John Hunt's account of his very frictional and angry interaction with Kevin Costner when Costner came to get E. Hunt's story.

    St. John Hunt and his father were completely insulted by the pittance amount Costner offered for the story.

    I mean it was so cheap...I agree with dad and son when they felt it was insulting.

    It all blew up.

    Who do you believe in this tale?

    I think LBJ was so corrupt and ruthless, ordering or okaying murders was definitely possible on his end. Getting his protege Malcolm Wallace off of a jury reached murder conviction is just one true story that reveals his corruption in spades.

    I also believe LBJ's long time mistress regards her claim that LBJ "growled" into her ear the late night of 11,21,1963 that "after tomorrow those blankity-blank Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That's no threat, that's a promise." 

    Was Hunt throwing in Cord Meyer in his guilty men JFKA story to get back at him for some reason?

    And the murder of Mary Meyer just adds another connecting thread to the Cord Meyer mystery.

    IMO, the Mary Meyer killing was a classic professional hit.

    One carried out in broad daylight along a public walk way yet in an area where there were no eyewitnesses.

    Washington Post editor Ben Bradley races to break into Mary Meyer's art studio within hours of her death and finds spectral James Jesus Angleton already there!?  Both of them looking for Mary Meyer's dairy?  PLEASE...

     

     

     

     

     

  16. 7 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

    On driving: Oswald was witnessed driving, the morning of Mon Nov 11, 1963: "The mystery of the Furniture Mart sighting of Lee and Marina Oswald and their children and its solution", https://www.scrollery.com/?p=1450.

    On the Downtown Lincoln-Mercury, here is something new: the date is nailed down, provided one accepts the testimony of Eugene Wilson, car salesman there, that part of the dangerous driving of the man who said his name was Lee Oswald, reported by his fellow salesman Bogard, was because the roads were slick from having rained.

    I have gone over and over the weather data of that month, Nov 1963, collected and reported from Love Field, and for a long time I was just extremely baffled, for accurate data records show there was no rain on either Sat Nov 9, the day Bogard said it was, or Sat Nov 2, the day Eugene Wilson more convincingly (rain issue aside) said.

    At last ... the solution: the Oswald test-drive at that dealership was not Nov 9, and was Nov 2.

    The solution goes to a well-known phenomenon in which first rain after a long dry spell, especially rains that are so light that they do not wash away road grime and grease, make roads dangerous and slick. That was exactly the case the weekend of Sat Nov 2, in which there was 0 precipitation Nov 2, but there was light precipitation at 1 and 4 am Fri Nov 1, first rain after a dry spell.

    On danger of "rain and slick pavement", this FBI document advising agents of that in their driving bureau cars: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=198272#relPageId=2890.

    Eugene Wilson telling the FBI "Bogard also said that the customer [Oswald] drove like a mad man, driving much too fast, as it had been raining and the pavement was slick": https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=59645#relPageId=148.

    Eugene Wilson's correction of the published date adopted by the Warren Commission of Nov 9, to Nov 2, of the Oswald test-drive: http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/W Disk/Wilson Eugene/Item 01.pdf

    Dallas, TX weather history showing precipitation on Nov 1, 1963 (and any other date information can be looked up): https://wunderground.com/history/daily/us/tx/dallas/KDAL/date/1963-11-1.

    Article: "Verify: are roads really more slippery directly after it rains?": https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/are-roads-really-more-slippery-directly-after-it-rains/281-d21e8c4d-ebea-439e-b646-86b84b5c10ee. Quoting a meteorologist:

    "Cars on the road leak fluids, oil being one of the primary fluids ... So, any water will tend to float the oil to the top, just like in salad dressing. So, as soon as you have water on the roads, that floats oil up and it becomes immediately very slippery."

    "Until the oil and dirt get washed away, the pavement will be slippery. That can happen in a matter of minutes during a downpour, according to Marriott. But, it's actually worse if it's simply drizzling, especially after a long dry spell. 

    "In that case, it's going to stay slippery a lot longer," said Marriott. "You just think about it whenever you try to run something off with water. If you're doing a very slow pace, it takes much longer to get it rinsed off."

    "An examination of the first "wet day" of each of the last five years in Washington revealed that on those days, the Washington State Patrol responded to far more collisions than the previous day. The only outlier is 2020, whose smaller numbers are based on the stay-at-home order of the pandemic, resulting in far fewer cars on the road.

    "That’s anecdotal, perhaps, but it jives with the physics of oil and water – which allow us to verify: Yes, roads are more slippery, right when it rains or snows. So, make sure to slow down when it does."

    The objection that that driver who looked and acted like he was Oswald, who said his name was Lee Harvey Oswald, could not have been Oswald due to the conflict that he was at Ruth Paine's house is removed, since that objection applies to Nov 9 but not the morning of Sat Nov 2 (from Ruth Paine's testimony). 

     

     

     

    What person goes to a car dealership, asked to test drive a car and then proceeds to drive like a "MAD MAN' while doing so?

    Especially if he or she is sober?

    Oswald may have driven around a residential neighborhood with Ruth Paine a few times. However, I doubt if she told him to go onto a freeway and "LET ER RIP!"

    Sounds like Lee H. wasn't ready for freeway driving.

    Surprised no one asked Ruthie more details about her driving lessons with Lee.

    How far did you let him drive? How fast? How did he do? Was he nervous or calm and confident driving? Did you let him go onto the freeway? Was he ready to take a DMV test and pass in your opinion?

    Very important questions.

     

  17. Do all here dismiss E. Howard Hunt's taped, near end-of-life confessional about his team's involvement in "The Big Event" including his "bench warmer" role and his placement of LBJ and Cord Meyer in the hierarchy of it's planning?

    If so, please explain why you do...and your thoughts as to why Hunt would propose and create such an earth-shaking confessional?

    If it was all a hoax...why would Hunt perpetrate it and state it on tape no less?

    And even include a diagram of hierarchy drawn by his own hand?

    That tape and it's accompanying diagram is universally treated as if it doesn't exist. 

    Sorry, the tape and the diagram does exist.

    And the ignoring of that Hunt confessional reality impugns the integrity of those that do imo.

    Before the Hunt "Big Event" tape and diagram...how many JFKA researchers and writers ever included the name "Cord Meyer" in their possible "guilty men" scenario speculations?

    Hunt not only mentions Meyer but even offers his opinion as to Meyer's specific motive for wanting JFK killed.

    That of a jealous husband who lost his wife's affection to JFK.

    Was Hunt the first to offer this Cord Meyer involvement and motive story?

    Or, had someone before him presented this and in a published way?

     

     

  18. 2 hours ago, Michael Crane said:

    Primary view of object titled '[Photograph of Application for Driver's License]'.

    Why is the above application document completely filled out but not signed by Oswald?

    Looks like Lee printed his name at the top and filled in the boxes answering every question.

    Where was this document found?

    At Ruth Paine's residence? Or at Oswald's North Beckley room?

    He listed his residency address as "Irving, Texas."

    Was Ruth Paine ever asked how Oswald did in his 4 driving practice runs with her and her car?

    Was Ruth Paine's car a stick shift? Or an automatic?

    Question for Michael Crane:

    Do you think Lee Oswald could have been the customer that car salesman Al Bogard described as test driving one of his cars and driving like a wild man on the highway while doing so?

     

     

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