Michael Clark

Paul, Dig deeper. Cheers, Michael

Paul, we posted simultaneously. Paul, Post anything that uses the wod "instant"., in the record. I am making this progressively easier for you. Cheers, Michael

Nice second try Paul, Post something that refers to an"instant" visa. Cheers, Michael

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Paul Trejo wrote: Michael, If this is really a polite challenge as you claim, then first admit that you contradicted yourself. Your sentence is the OPPOSITE of the sentence by Sylvia. Next, admit that you accused me of quoting testimony when I was only explaining my case. The word "instant" is mine, intended to emphasize an obvious fact Third, admit that Sylvia Duran Tirado was under pressure, spoke broken English, and was being guided by the attorney. If you refuse to admit these few points, then I'll conclude again that you're just being pushy. ------------------------------ Try again, Paul, -Why does the MC LHO ask for a Transit Visa when he first states his case? -You speak of an "Instant" Visa that doesn't appear anywhere. -You omit the mention of a "transit Visa" When it is referred to exclusively. This is not impolite. "Impolite" is dumping stuff around The Forum that others have to clean-up. Cheers, Michael

Thanks David, I do engage in debates about what the MC LHO did while he was in MC. I don't really think he was there, in late September of '63, as is reported. But I do engage with the idea that if a part of that story, or some use of it, does not sound credible, pointing out that incredibility, if I may, makes the larger story less credible. If you see a fault to that logic, please point it out. I am not fully up-to-speed on the case against the visit as a whole so I don't really go there. Cheers, Michael

I have to say a Jim, the PDF reader, as it comes through on my iPad, is tricky. It is work to get through one page, a struggle to get through 4. It's just a heads-up, I appreciate what you do. Cheers, Michael

Paul, The MC LHO walked into the Cuban Consulate, stating immediately that he wanted to go to Russia, Via Cuba. He was told that he needed a Transit Visa. Duran may even be saying that he walked-in, asking for a Transit Visa. Interestingly, in my 48 page PDF of Sylvia Dura's testimony, there is no use of the word "Instant". There are 11 uses of the word "Transit". In all of your renditions of this story, you use "Instant" visa every time. You do not, at all, use the term "Transit" visa. You even use quotes on the word "instant" even though it is not used, at all. Paul, You are making stuff up. You are using false quotes to back-up an invented story. Testimony of Sylvia Duran CORNWELL - All right. Do you have a recollection whether it was all on one day or on separate days. TIRADO - The same day. CORNWELL - On the very first visit, would you describe to us what the man said and did, and what you said in response? TIRADO - Yes, he, well, he enter and he ask me if I speak english and I say yes, and then he start asking me about requirements to go to Cuba, to get a visa to go to cuba, and I explain it. CORNWELL - What did you explain? TIRADO - Well, that he needed to, he said that a transit visa so that he needs a visa to the country that he was going, from, if it was a Socialist country, the visa was given, as soon as he gets the other visa, and uh... CORNWELL - When he first asked about the requirements for a visa, did he tell you that his objective was to go to cuba or to another country? TIRADO - To the Soviet Union.

Bumped for some light reading, later on.

Steve, I have pulled-off many, impressive, Mcguyver-like feats in my day; to the astonishment of friends and co-workers. To be sure, I am a modest person. I am taking some liberties in this post. This is not the norm. Cheers, Michael

Joe, Very well put, Cudos! Cheers, Michael

Steve, No disrespect taken. I am a dreamer. Sometimes that is stated as being an original thinker, or thinking outside the box. It's a good thing. IMO. Cheers, Michael

Regarding Comey and Clinton, I briefly looked. I will look more. But this discussion will likely have become stale before I have anything to say. i have, within the last year, looked much more closely into the Clintons, Bushes, drugs, arms and murder. It is unsettling but, again, my knowledge is cursory and I'm not prepared to really make a case out of what I have found. on the surface, I think Comey is good, honest, has integrity, is fair, intelligent and Savvy. Regarding any Clinton taint, I am starting from the premise that it was unavoidable and undesirable to him. Cheers, Michael

Steve, To be sure, I was not thinking about voting. I was thinking more about the efficiency of administration, control and allotment of resources, environmental responsibility and protection and the sharing of those responsibilities concerns and values. Also, those boundaries, at the headwaters are self defined. Downstream they would need to be defined but should never be changed. Cheers, Michael

Problem is, he HAS to be led. He is in unfamiliar territory. And he will be by people with their own self-interests, intelligence and Savvy. It's inevitable. I think a captain has to have a cursory knowledge of all the functions of every compartment and piece of equipment on the ship. Trump knows how to bark orders, but knows nothing about our ship. Cheers, Michael

Regarding Gerrymandering: I have always thought that congressional districts should be permanently re-drawn by watershed. my 2 cents, Michael

Steve, fair enough. -Regarding Trumps intelligence. I'll have to divide that up into say, intelligence and (fishing for a word here, The selection of which will be insufficient due to haste) Savvy. I see intelligence, for the sake of this post, as the ability to dig-into and understand a subject matter that is relevant in your efforts to meet certain goals. Savvy is your ability to make the best use of your findings given the real-world, on-the-ground, present realities. I'll add two anecdotes here: I recall a commercial for some enterprise that related to the finding of candidates for job positions. One candidate for a programming position told the hiring-folks: "I dream in code". The hiring folks said something to the affect of: "We found our guy"! I also recall, back when I was a 16 Year-old, I became addicted to a particular video game. I became so obsessed that I started dreaming about playing that stupid game. I remember that my capability improved the more I dreamt about it. I soon renounced all video games, and still never touch them. I am suggesting here that intelligence, beyond my above definition, gas to do with effectively coming to valid and useful solutions to problems, in your off-time, indeed in your sleep. If you don't have or or don't lead a balanced life, your dreams and obsessions can lead you to become seriously wanting as an individual or as a person who's responsibilities grow beyond the confines of, say, a video game console. So I think that I have some level of intelligence such that some people would call me intelligent. I imagine that Donald Trump dreams of money and deals. I fear that he does not dream of much else; especially ethics, enlightened self-interest or the myriad of endeavors that are the focus of Humanism. So, yes, I think he is intelligent. That in itself does not mean much. Is he Savvy? In the world of his obsession, yes; i.e. Making money and deals. I have found that I have a certain Savvy for video games. I am glad that I have abondoned that application of my intelligence and no longer nurture that savvy. I will edit-in parts 2 and 3 of this post soon.

Steve, thanks for the reply. Since, again, there is a lot to unpack in there, I'll avoid a point-counterpoint or list of concurring and agreeing opinions. Id be glad to respond to any questions of a more-narrow scope, but I carry no pretense as to the importance of my opinions. I am just saying that I am a willing participant in a polite, reciprocal discussion. Cheers, Michael

Paul, This is a polite challenge. I do wish you would take it up. Cheers, Michael

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Tommy, I am not in agreement. I think Michael could have more fruitfully spent that time going over his recommended reading list and bringing something interesting to the fore. As it is, and as is your want to-do, he walks around the playground, kicks over, smashes, mocks and ridicules other kids projects. I am following this thread with interest, if not understanding. The failure of the distractions is a testament to the compelling nature of the work being hashed-out here. Cheers, Michael

I have read the Lopez report. Unfortunately, my first reading of anything really only gives me an idea of what is in the item in question. I can then re-read it looking for particular details, and make notes. I can also use such a document as a reference for particular details. I believe that I recall a "Transit Visa" being mentioned. You ignore this item. It causes a problem for your story. Cheers Michael

Paul, I have read your post a few times. I just read it twice again, quickly, then slowly. You make no mention of the Transit Visa. I am at a loss to see how it was explained if you never mention it. You may feel justified in complaining that I am being picky, but the subject of the visas does not entail very much and could be easily dealt with. There are two visits to the Cuban Consulate, and one to the Russian embassy. There are visa requests. You make no mention of a Transit visa. I see a problem with the transit visa and the way that it fits into your theory. You decide to omit the transit visa rather than deal with the problem. I have found a couple ways that you might be able to cram it into your theory, but it's awkward; and I shouldn't be trying to fix your theory. Why do you omit the transit visa and how does it fit into your story? Cheers, Michael