Michael Clark

This thread has not seen much attention, and is relavant to some banter that is going off-topic on a few other threads.

Tommy, How do I go-about getting a "Final Post to Michael Clark" thingy? Cheers, Michael

Steve, This may be impolite, but I am kind of vetting you for your sincerity, with this question. Please share you're fillings and opinions about a few things regarding Trump, the person. I Won't completely define the question but I'll say that I would like to hear what you think about Trumps intelligence, maturity and his fitness to lead this country. Cheers, Michael

Steve, you are covering too much ground there. There really is no room for a kind of debate that is not found everywhere on the internet. There are 20ish individual items in there that could be debated. Each item, however, is couched in a blurb of debatable items, and is therefore incoherent. Cheers, Michael I am hoping that this subforum can be a little different than what is seen everywhere else.

This thread follows the story of a forum member who claims to have gone to school with the son of a Dealy Plaza shooter. Paul Trejo does a good job of keeping the door open and drawing-out that member for more information. Im not saying I believe it, just saying it is interesting. Cheers, Michael

Paul, Why the Transit Visa? Who do you omit it from your scenario? Where does it fit? It seems like you are avoiding a place where you can't comfortably fit with an explanation for the Transit Visa. And, to be sure, this gets us no closer to being back on-topic. Cheers, Michael

Wow, that was succinct. I blurted out a few yup!s while reading that. Thanks, and welcome back! Cheers, Michael

There is a lot in there that I can't speak to, due to lack of political Savvy. I agree with most of the rest. One thing that I am a big believer in is divided government. The full control of both houses and the executive is the worst case scenario, no matter which party it is. I'd like to see the Dems take one house, then I have a choice for who I support for President. If the Dems take both houses, I will likely vote republican for the next POTUS; unless of course they field a tool like Trump. Cheers, Michael

Jim, I wanted to quote you to make you aware. There has been a bit of off-topic banter here regarding Johnatonh Abt since you posted earlier. I also found your Johnathon Abt thread. I raised a few questions above, and was hoping you might be able to provide some insight. Cheers, Michael

I found This on another thread. I don't know where it comes from though. On Saturday afternoon, November 23, 1963, around 3:30 PM Oswald made a telephone call to Ruth Paine Ruth Paine: I said, “Well, hi.” And he said he wanted to ask me to call Mr. John Abt in New York for him after 6:00 PM. He gave me a telephone number of an office in New York and a residence in New York…He said he was an (the) attorney he wanted to have…

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Paul, Walker was an odd-ball loner. He had no friends accept those he could attract with hatred and racism. Please correct me if I am wrong. I know there is some basis-in-fact for this, however. Do you think he would risk his life, counting on a cover-up to the highest levels? I'm not seeing it. Cheers, Michael

Just to add a nuance, and some post-911 verbiage, Stove-piping may be good term, as opposed to compartmentalized. Stove-piping came to mind when, In the Freeport Sulpher thread, I was considering Craig Varnell's suggestion that Dulles was not involved in the planning and execution; but got left as a sucker (patsy) to do clean-up duties. I am still considering this.... the job was stove-piped down from the Eastern Establishment, to guys like Hunt, bypassing Dulles, playing dirty tricks on Angleton, separating functions between the Mob, Cubans, and Dallas players. DAP was active. Angleton got surprised, Dulles was less surprised but forced to act in a cover-up. It's just a working theory but it is elegant. Cheers, Michael

Mr. JENNER - Were you aware of the name John Abt before you received the telephone call you testified about from Lee Oswald? Jenner does not say that Ruth ever memtioned a John Abt. I am heading off to search for name "abbot" ****edit** No mention of "Abbot nor Abbott"

Thomasinayaritavich, I am not vouching for the Mcadams site. It is WC testimony so I'll take it at face value, and it has/is a clickable index. Regards, Michel

Paul, Where is the evidence for what you say? There is no evidence in the WC testimony of Ruth Paine, that I have, that says she was asked by LHO to call a John Abt? There is no mention, by her, of that name. That three letter word is mentioned once, in all of her testimony. Ambiguously. That three letter word is not mentioned at all in Michael Paine's testimony. AFAIK

My 199 page transcript, #1 (undated)'of Ruth Paine's WC Testimony comes-up with no results when I search for "Abt". My 20 page fragment of Ruth Paine Testimony makes no mention of John Abt. My July 23, 1964 fragment of Ruth Hyde Testimony makes no mention of John Abt. I found nothing in her affidavit. My 217 page WC testimony of Ruth Paine March 21, 1964, shows one mention of John Abt.: Mr. JENNER - At least your discussions with him do not enable you to proceed to the point at which to enable you to voice any opinions in this area or subject than you have now given? Mrs. PAINE - No. Mr. JENNER - Were you aware of the name John Abt before you received the telephone call you testified about from Lee Oswald? Mrs. PAINE - No; I had not heard that name. Mr. JENNER - And, therefore, you never suggested it to Lee Oswald? Is this the only mention of John Abt in Ruth Paine's testimony? There is no mention of his name from her at all. She doesn't even have to lie if it never happened! Mr. JENNER - Were you aware of the name John Abt before you received the telephone call you testified about from Lee Oswald?Mrs. PAINE - No; I had not heard that name.

Top Ten Education Forum Threads........ lol! Marquette University JFK Assassination Witness Page A clickable index to all (?, or a bunch of) Warren Commission, Shaw trial, and HSCA witness testimony; ARRB docs, FBI affidavits, and more. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/wit.htm Lopez Report https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/lopezrpt_2003/contents.htm Boris Yetsin's Kennedy papers http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23805-boris-yeltsins-jfk-lho-papers/ Rare and out of print JFK books https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2F8b408e6999f8799dfd0a

Fair enough Paul, I am not sure if you read my reply to Kirk, but there were two points. -Flynn was poison, and a number of people had to have known that. Heck, I knew that. -Comey had to know the consequences of his actions. I left the question of intent open. Kirk made some observations that went further on the question of intent than I did. I don't want to paint Trump as a victim, I can't stand him. However, I have seen squirrelier means of getting people into, or out of office, for sure.

Whatever, I can't read your sentences, your mucking up this thread. Just drop it ... let it go.

Paul, This is an argument that YOU are trying to make. Why don't YOU provide the documents, instead of forcing others to do so if they wish to correct the record that you foul-up. Paul Trejo wrote: "The only reason LHO went to the Russian Embassy to get a "Transit Visa" was because the Cuban Consulate had already denied LHO an instant visa to Cuba." I'm hoping Paul provides some documents to fix this. I may do it later if he does not. In any event, LHO did not go to MC and we are only trying to straighten out a fictional story as we have it. Cheers, Michael

I haven't PM'd you. I won't. This and my previous post are at variance with the guidance given me. I was overcome by incredulity.

Huh?

LOL, next up, Pat Speer? I hope!