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    Antonio Veciana

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    John Newman has had a running FB post discounting Vecian's claims regarding Dave Phillips.

    Posted April 8th

    "In November 2017 at the Lancer conference in Dallas, and again in March 2018 at the conference in San Francisco, I gave a presentation on Antonio Veciana and his claim that Bishop/Phillips recruited and trained him in Havana beginning in mid-1960. In Volume III, ("Into the Storm") coming at the end of 2018, there are a least two major chapters on the Veciana story about his relationship with David Phillips. The attached chart is worth studying; it speaks volumes about Veciana's story and how poorly our research community handled the alleged recruitment in Cuba over several decades (the person who noticed was Cuban intelligence chief, Fabian Escalante, in 1995). I am releasing this chart now because it takes a few months just to begin understanding its ramifications. I hope you enjoy working through them."

    General Walker, Lee Harvey Oswald and Dallas Officials

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    On 8/12/2017 at 9:10 PM, Jim Hargrove said:

    Well said, Michael.  General Walker didn’t have the power to make a credible attempt to kill JFK in Chicago, or in Tampa, or, frankly, in Dallas nor did he, at the same time, have the connections to create a patsy affiliated with the U.S. National Security State who would ensure that any real investigation would be quickly shut down.  But Allen Dulles and active members of the CIA sure did.

    In November 1963, the CIA was clearly at war with the Kennedy Administration.  To understand that, all you need to do is read contemporaneous newspapers.

     

    Krock_CIA.jpeg

     

    Here's the original Richard Starnes piece from 10/2/63 that so appalled the Times' Arthur Krock:

    The Washington Daily News, Wednesday, October 2, 1963, p.3

    'SPOOKS' MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR AMBASSADOR LODGE

    'Arrogant' CIA Disobeys Orders in Viet Nam

    By Richard T. Starnes

    SAIGON, Oct.2 - The story of the Central Intelligence Agency's role in South Viet Nam is a dismal chronicle of bureaucratic arrogance, obstinate disregard of orders, and unrestrained thirst for power.

    Twice the CIA flatly refused to carry out instructions from Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, according to a high United States source here.

    In one of these instances the CIA frustrated a plan of action Mr. Lodge brought with him from Washington because the agency disagreed with it.

    This led to a dramatic confrontation between Mr. Lodge and John Richardson, chief of the huge CIA apparatus here. Mr. Lodge failed to move Mr. Richardson, and the dispute was bucked back to Washington. Secretary of State Dean Rusk and CIA Chief John A. McCone were unable to resolve the conflict, and the matter is now reported to be awaiting settlement by President Kennedy.

    It is one of the developments expected to be covered in Defense Secretary Robert McNamara's report to Mr. Kennedy.

    Others Critical, Too

    Other American agencies here are incredibly bitter about the CIA.

    "If the United States ever experiences a 'Seven Days in May' it will come from the CIA, and not from the Pentagon," one U.S. official commented caustically.

    ("Seven Days in May" is a fictional account of an attempted military coup to take over the U.S. Government.)

    CIA "spooks" (a universal term for secret agents here) have penetrated every branch of the American community in Saigon, until non-spook Americans here almost seem to be suffering a CIA psychosis.

    An American field officer with a distinguished combat career speaks angrily about "that man at headquarters in Saigon wearing a colonel's uniform." He means the man is a CIA agent, and he can't understand what he is doing at U.S. military headquarters here, unless it is spying on other Americans.

    Another American officer, talking about the CIA, acidly commented: "You'd think they'd have learned something from Cuba but apparently they didn't."

    Few Know CIA Strength

    Few people other than Mr. Richardson and his close aides know the actual CIA strength here, but a widely used figure is 600. Many are clandestine agents known only to a few of their fellow spooks.

    Even Mr. Richardson is a man about whom it is difficult to learn much in Saigon. He is said to be a former OSS officer, and to have served with distinction in the CIA in the Philippines.

    A surprising number of the spooks are known to be involved in their ghostly trade and some make no secret of it.

    "There are a number of spooks in the U.S. Information Service, in the U.S. Operations mission, in every aspect of American official and commercial life here, " one official - presumably a non-spook - said.

    "They represent a tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone," he added.

    Coupled with the ubiquitous secret police of Ngo Dinh Nhu, a surfeit of spooks has given Saigon an oppressive police state atmosphere.

    The Nhu-Richardson relationship is a subject of lively speculation. The CIA continues to pay the special forces which conducted brutal raids on Buddhist temples last Aug. 21, altho in fairness it should be pointed out that the CIA is paying these goons for the war against communist guerillas, not Buddhist bonzes (priests).

    Hand Over Millions

    Nevertheless, on the first of every month, the CIA dutifully hands over a quarter million American dollars to pay these special forces.

    Whatever else it buys, it doesn't buy any solid information on what the special forces are up to. The Aug. 21 raids caught top U.S. officials here and in Washington flat-footed.

    Nhu ordered the special forces to crush the Buddhist priests, but the CIA wasn't let in on the secret. (Some CIA button men now say they warned their superiors what was coming up, but in any event the warning of harsh repression was never passed to top officials here or in Washington.)

    Consequently, Washington reacted unsurely to the crisis. Top officials here and at home were outraged at the news the CIA was paying the temple raiders, but the CIA continued the payments.

    It may not be a direct subsidy for a religious war against the country's Buddhist majority, but it comes close to that.

    And for every State Department aide here who will tell you, "Dammit, the CIA is supposed to gather information, not make policy, but policy-making is what they're doing here," there are military officers who scream over the way the spooks dabble in military operations.

    A Typical Example

    For example, highly trained trail watchers are an important part of the effort to end Viet Cong infiltration from across the Laos and Cambodia borders. But if the trailer watchers spot incoming Viet Congs, they report it to the CIA in Saigon, and in the fullness of time, the spooks may tell the military.

    One very high American official here, a man who has spent much of his life in the service of democracy, likened the CIA's growth to a malignancy, and added he was not sure even the White House could control it any longer.

    Unquestionably Mr. McNamara and Gen. Maxwell Taylor both got an earful from people who are beginning to fear the CIA is becoming a Third Force co-equal with President Diem's regime and the U.S. Government - and answerable to neither.

    There is naturally the highest interest here as to whether Mr. McNamara will persuade Mr. Kennedy something ought to be done about it.

     

     

    CIA Cryptonym research

    in JFK Research

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    Thread Post 4

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10123-10019.pdf (re Richard Nagel)

    MHORDER     (MFF says: Indicator for negative publicity about the CIA. [status: Probable] 

    WOMUSE     (MFF says: CIA counterintelligence staff [status: probable]

    LNERGO.   (MFF says: FBI, used during the late 60s and 70s )

    WOFIRM   Not in MFFf

    LNHARP  Not in MFF

    LNGOLD   Not in MFF

    AMCONGEN  ( some relation to Zurich) Not in MFF

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Antonio Veciana

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    28 minutes ago, Michael Clark said:

    Pinging Mr. Root in this thread because I noticed that he never posted in it; perhaps he never saw it.

    I noticed in the document linked below, that an alias for David Phillips is "Mr. Abbott". I am wondering if this was previously known. I searched for a while but did not find anything.

    The question that this raises for me is... Did Oswald actually request to speak with Phillips, using the name Abt, or Abbott? Was "John Abt" quickly used as cover for Oswald's actual request for Phillips? Is this what got him killed?

    P. 109 of this doc. Identifies "Mr. Abbott" as a cover name for Dave Phillips.

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/180-10145-10210.pdf

    The above quote is from the following thread....

     

    E. Howard Hunt

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    41 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

    In the Watergate thing, Hunt must have missed the days when he had Allen Dulles's protection.  That wasn't always something every officer could count on (see Frank Wisner), but there must have been something - perhaps only a turning point in their relations - that caused Helms to put him in the White House and then hang him and his wife out in the wind.  What brought the Hunts  to a  point where they knew they could no longer count on the Agency? 

    On the Buckley show, Hunt starts complaining about it from the minute he begins speaking - almost explicitly tipping that he was still Agency at the White House.  He's willing to tip Francis Gary Powers by comparing their cases, which also tips that Hunt was on domestic duty for CIA.  Yet, of course, neither Buckley nor any other interviewer of the hour was willing to ask Hunt what the CIA was doing inside CREEP, leaving Hunt's mission at the burglary and the dirty tricks (so, leaving him under Nixon's command).

    One would think that the Nixon blackmail was Agency-directed to embarrass the President, but the financial and legal pressures on the Hunts seem to have been very real.  This is like the nastiest parts of John Le Carre.  Who'd have thought one could dredge up any sympathy for the Hunts?

    I am thinking that Hunt, and others, were under emmense pressure from the Cuban exiles to get the government to act on a Cuban liberation. This pressure may have been upon pain of death; just business, of course, nothing personal. I think Nixon wanted to act, but the agency did not, feeling that an isolated Cuba was better than a free Cuba.

    I think their plan was for these "big event" folks to turn-up at Watergate and light a fire under both the butts of Nixon and the agency. The plane crash that killed Dorothy was the response from the agency.

    To be sure, this is my working pet-CT. 

    John Abt and Lee Harvey Oswald

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    On 3/22/2005 at 1:29 PM, Jim Root said:

    ....

    Pinging Mr. Root in this thread because I noticed that he never posted in it; perhaps he never saw it.

    I noticed in the document linked below, that an alias for David Phillips is "Mr. Abbott". I am wondering if this was previously known. I searched for a while but did not find anything.

    The question that this raises for me is... Did Oswald actually request to speak with Phillips, using the name Abt, or Abbott? Was "John Abt" quickly used as cover for Oswald's actual request for Phillips? Is this what got him killed?

    P. 109 of this doc. Identifies "Mr. Abbott" as a cover name for Dave Phillips.

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/180-10145-10210.pdf

    General Walker, Lee Harvey Oswald and Dallas Officials

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    Hey guys, can we include prominent Dallas businessmen in this discussion, or CIA agents who are native to the area? Is Fort Worth close enough to Dallas to be included? How about Irvine?

    Gordon McLendon

     

    Gordon McLendon was born in Paris, Texas, on 8th June, 1921. The family moved to Oklahoma when he was a child. McLendon studied Far Eastern languages at Yale University. While at university he ran the campus radio station and was business manager for the Yale Literary Magazine.

    During the Second World War he accepted a commission in the United States Navy and worked as an interpreter, translator and interrogator. Later he joined armed forces radio.

    After the war McLendon returned to Texas and joined the KNET radio station. Eventually he established his own radio station, KLIF, in Dallas. His first innovation was to provide live baseball broadcasts.

    In 1947 McLendon and his father, Barton McLendon, founded the Liberty Broadcasting System (LBS). By 1952 LBS was the second largest radio network in the United States. The McLendon family eventually owned a large number of radio stations including KNUS-FM (Dallas), KOST (Los Angeles), WYSL-AM (Chicago), KABL-FM (San Francisco), KILT (Houston), KTSA (San Antonio) and KELP (EL Paso).

    It has been claimed that McLendon was the first person to introduce the traffic reports, jingles, all-news radio station and "easy-listening" programmes. His radio stations also expressed a right-wing political commentary. This included his attacks on federal aid to education, racial desegregation of public schools and equal voting rights for all races.

    In 1963 rumours began to circulate that McLendon might have been involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. In their book, Deadly Secrets, Warren Hinckle and William Turner claim that Gerry P. Hemming obtained money from McLendon to help fund Interpen.

    McLendon was also an associate of Jack Ruby as well as being friendly with several other suspects including Clint Murchison, Bobby Baker and David Atlee Phillips. Peter Dale Scott claims that McLendon made a secret trip to Mexico City just before the assassination.

    According to Seth Kantor when Ruby was arrested he "shouted out for Gordon McLendon". The KLIF disc-jockey, Weird Beard, later told Kantor that Ruby "greatly admired McLendon".

    McLendon was also a film producer and in 1959 made three movies: The Killer Shrews, The Giant Gila Monster and My Dog Buddy. He was also ran the advertising campaigns for 150 movie and between 1963 and 1966 McLendon worked for United Artists. McLendon was also the author of several books including How to Succeed in Broadcasting (1961), Correct Spelling in Three Hours (1962) and Understanding American Government (1964).

    A member of the Democratic Party, McLendon attempted to unseat Ralph Yarborough in 1964. He later left the party saying he could no longer support the policies of Lyndon B. Johnson.

    McLendon sold KLIF for $10.5m in 1971. Over the next eight years he sold the rest of his radio stations for approximately $100m. Later it was estimated that McLendon was worth around $200m.

    In 1975 McLendon and David Atlee Phillips formed the Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO).

    By 1985 Forbes Magazine claimed that McLendon was worth around $200m.

    Gordon McLendon died of cancer on 14th September, 1986.

     

     

    CIA Cryptonym research

    in JFK Research

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/NARA-Nov-2017/104-10182-10052.pdf

    P.31 WIROOT not on MFF list

    P.49 WIZARD 4 no WIZARD on MFF

    P.49 SALVACK NOT ON MFF..... Lester H. Salvack

    P.52 WIZARD 2 NOT ON MFF

    P.52 GUTHMAN "

    P.68 WICLAM "

    p.80 redacted, reporting officer: James McCord?

    p.92 WIBOTTLE "

    p.111 WILDCAT 5, WIROOT, WIROOT 2, WIFLAT 3 MFF not checked

    P.112  CAJEEP 2  "

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    E. Howard Hunt

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    190 page doc (first 13 pages should be typed out and searchable, very interesting)

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/180-10145-10210.pdf

    First 13 pages; handwritten, extensive account of Hunt's CIA career. 

          1.5 years in Spain, as a writer; paid; program to improve CIA image by writing spy novels.

    Paid employee until June, 19, 1972 "Watergate"

    P. 71 Seven aliases for Hunt

    P. 93 JMMARC Crypt for Hunt, not on Mary Farrell list

     

     

    P.145  Hunt = Twicker

    New document releases 2017 and beyond

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    190 page doc (first 13 pages should be typed out and searchable, very interesting)

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/180-10145-10210.pdf

    First 13 pages; handwritten, extensive account of Hunt's CIA career. 

          1.5 years in Spain, as a writer; paid; program to improve CIA image by writing spy novels.

    Paid employee until June, 19, 1972 "Watergate"

    P.17 subject (Rothman?) tells Felt he could probably produce two MIG aircraft, brought to US by Czech and Cuban pilots. Arranged by Frank Fiorini (p.19)

    P.21 Rothman in Dallas, sept 1958, PR firm (Phillips?). $13.5 million heist of Canadian Bank to meet emergency request in Caribbean. Money later turned-up in Cuba, Australia, Shanhai, Argentina.

    P.22 Rothman in Dallas in Oct. 1960 to cut a 5 year deal Diesel to be delivered to Germany.

    P.25 Rothman has 100 pilots who participated in BOPi, now working, flying for Congolese Air Force.

    P.26 Ed Browder offers Henry Luce exclusive rights to coverage of revolution in Costa Rica.

    P.27 Jack Ruby sent to Israel with a contingent of trade-unionists.

    P.30 Ruby in Cuba in 62. Ruby and Oswald in several photographs.

    P.32 Memo for Hoover from Angleton (30 Jan. 64) States Ruby in Cuba, late 62, early 63.

    P.36 Jose Luanza can furnish background info on Oswald and his efforts to infiltrate DRE.

    P.36 James Kelley Lowe, former USAF intel officer, wife a soviet agent. Lowes were in company of Ruby and Oswald 6-8 weeks prior to assassination.

    P. 39-41 on Gordon Mclendon

    P.64 John Martino

    P.65. Jack Ruby's safe stolen prior to auction (news article, may 1, 1972)

    P.68 Miunutemen capabilities, culpability, and arms cache's. Robert DePugh

    P.70-92 many CIA Cryptonyms

    P.71 7 aliases for Hunt

    P.93 JMMARC Crypt for Hunt, not on Mary Farrell list

    P.94 Richard Cain. Kennedy Assassination, FPCC

    P.145  Hunt = Twicker

    P.109 Mr. Abbott = Dave Phillips

    P. @109 is a handwritten version of https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=37207#relPageId=3&tab=page (Thanks to John Newman)

     

     

    Challenge for Paul Trejo -- Why would the US Government cover up a Gen. Walker conspiracy?

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    On 8/20/2017 at 3:48 PM, Paul Trejo said:

    Sandy,

    Although I agree that I have no smoking gun (and neither do you), I will also appeal to the latest FBI files that have not yet been released by the US Government to this very day.   I expect to see:

    1.  FBI files on Ex-General Walker, showing repeated signs of anti-Government activity.

    2.  FBI files on Dallas Rightists, showing repeated signs of anti-Government activity.

    3.  FBI files recognizing that Ex-General Walker was behind the Dallas humiliation of Adlai Stevenson only 30 days before the JFK assassination.

    4.  FBI files recognizing that the JBS was behind both the WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbill, as well as the WELCOME TO DALLAS MR. KENNEDY black-bordered ad in the DMN.

    5.  FBI files recognizing that those who were loudly claiming a Communist plot against JFK were all among the Dallas Right-wing -- and they had no evidence.

    6.  FBI files recognizing that Lee Harvey Oswald had been working for the Radical Right at 544 Camp Street in New Orleans.

    In other words, the near-certainty of J. Edgar Hoover that the Radical Right in the South was plotting to kill JFK already.   This would of course include Joseph Milteer as reported by Willie Somerset for some months before the actual JFK murder.

    In other words, J. Edgar Hoover would not have been surprised in the slightest after adding up all the evidence by 3pm EST on 11/22/1963.

    Regards,
    --Paul Trejo

    Is Trejo off crow hunting?

    General Walker, Lee Harvey Oswald and Dallas Officials

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    23 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

    A point to ponder?  No matter who arranged the route the Secret Service had final approval over it.  They could have altered it if they doubted it's safety.  Or done more to scout and protect it.

    And yes Michael, excellent post.  I never knew the details and thought JFK asked for General Cabell's resignation at the same time as Dulles.  An interesting point that he didn't but still felt or acquired the perceived need to three months later.

    To be sure, I did not write any of that. It is an article that I shared. I have added a link to that article.

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