Michael Clark

Tommy just went through this thread and edited 11 of his posts.

Paul, no, I am not seeing McCord as a shooter. He was high level CIA with Top Secret clearances, Atomic Energy Agency clearances. I am seeing him as driving LHO from early 1961. I see him as a bridge between the Texas elite, bubbahood, and the Northeast Elite. He is flying just below Phillips, with Hunt and William Buckley Jr.. His Hunt connection placed him within earshot of anti Castro Cubans, the shooters, in my working CT.

I’ve heard it said that this photo was taken hour after the assassination. I’ve also seen the estimate of 20 minutes. For several reasons, 20 minutes seems more likely to me.

The MFF document looks a little different. It doesn't have the "return to CIA" stamp on it. But it is stamped for a 1998 release. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=31144&search=104-10128-10300#relPageId=2&tab=page

David, do you have any idea when this was released? Was it part of a recent release? It strikes me as being hugely important. Can anyone put this in perspective for me? Is it important, is not? Potentially? Why? Cheers, Michael

James McCord Jr. Worked for the Waggoner bank, early in his career. Also, David Boylan posted a document recently, showing that Mccord Worked for Phillips while in the CIA. Mccord provides a line from Phillips directly to Oswald. McCord was in charge of an operation to infiltrate the FPCC.

Excellent thread, with research on Freeport Sulpher. But I am wondering if the source of the above-mentioned deposition was ever revealed. ****edit: Jim DiEugenio answered the above question.... Jim D said: The witness from the deposition from Probe was Gordon Novel. The deposition was taken during his libel suit against Playboy magazine, for Garrison mentioning him during his famous interview. In the mid nineties, I tracked down the defense lawyer, a guy named David Krupp. I called him up to try and locate the deposition. He said he probably would not recall a lawsuit from that long ago or the witness. This colloquy then followed: "Oh, you will remember this guy." "Who is it?" "Gordon Novel." "Oh, Gordon! He was one of the more colorful characters I interviewed." Then he directed me toward the Playboy legal department. They actually sent me the entire three day interview in a bound set of about 12 volumes. They paid for both the shipping and duplicating. Lisa Pease actually read every page of it, and she put together a three part series for Probe based upon the deposition. And this is just one part of one installment. And to me its not even the highlight. The highlight is when he describes his relationship with Allen Dulles during the Garrison investigation. Its very unfortunate what happened to Novel at about the time of the Church Committee and the coming of the HSCA. That is a long, convoluted and complex saga that no one has ever written about except some alternative newspapers down in New Orleans. Suffice it to say, very few people who were in any way approachable, knew as much about what happened to JFK as he did.

Moreover, it is a question that could have, should have and has been asked many times as a relavent part of another thread. As it stands, this thread serves as one of many that can be used, bounced, with just a "Buped" "edited" or addressed to someone (" bumped for Paul""), and displace other threads, control the front page, and keep Tommy's mug hanging around and in everyone's face. Most importantly, and unfortunately, this displaces a lot of worthwhile research the multiple threads allow Tommy to do this and, technically, obey the "24 hour" rule. I am not making an assertion of Tommy's motivations, because that is against the rules. Yet, that is ultimately what his actions serve to to. PS. Prayer man, Oswald, might have been exactly where he was supposed to be, for reasons unknown.

Keyvan, here are links. Area of assignment preferences. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10123-10401.pdf travel orders. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10124-10043.pdf

Tommy, is that what Sandy said? What are YOU trying to say?

Silliness, conjecture, ridicule, and making no assertions or sense, are you?

I have been recently-convinced that LHO was not sheep-dipped at all. He was infiltrating Pro-Castro groups (the FPCC), as a CIA operative, under David Atlee Phillips, via James McCord Jr.. As David Bolan pointed-out recently, McCord was working for Phillips. Phillips was the Chief of Western Hemisphere operations and, under him, McCord directed a counter intelligence program against the FPCC. Oswald was working for Phillips, through McCord. Oswald was a CIA agent.

Thanks, I’ll fix it later.

Thanks for reminding me of this thread. I'll have to look into Wynne Sharplessm DeNohrenschildt Denton as she does not ring a bell to me. Any clues? This thread dovetails very well with another thread, begun my Ashton...

A very interesting thread focusing in Philadelphia connections, including Ruth Paine and James McCord Jr..

Thanks David, so we have McCord working for Phillips at a time when McCord was leading a project to infiltrate the FPCC. Oswald, would be highly recommended for such an infiltration job because of his highly public defection to the Soviet Union. Some of that publicity would come from the Dallas and Fort Worth areas; Phillips home town.

Rodney's link is broken. This one works. It's a Twilight Zone episode with good re-enactment scene.

A link to archive docs on McCord https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/2017-release?page=419&_ga=2.18593977.1657956965.1509547456-224044424.1509547456&sort=desc&order=Num Pages

Here is a link to multiple Archive docs on McCord https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/2017-release?page=419&_ga=2.18593977.1657956965.1509547456-224044424.1509547456&sort=desc&order=Num Pages

I just used the insert URL tool, edited-in, above. Did that work? here are links, in case that did not work. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10123-10377.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10124-10007.pdf

Thanks for the heads-up Jim! They appear on my iPad as if they are document images.

Connally is clear that he had been hit in the back after he started to turn to his left. He had already been hit in the wrist and leg, IMO.

Please humor my current interest in James McCord Jr. when I note that, on October 16, 1963, it was deemed necessary to swear this CIA officer to secrecy; noting that during his previous 14 months with A "Q" clearance from the Atomic Energy Commission it was not deemed necessary. "In 1961, and under James McCord's direction, a counter-intelligence program was launched against the Fair Play for Cuba Committee." Wikipedia

It strikes me as odd that that it was deemed necessary to swear McCord to secrecy on October, 16, 1963; 14 months after he received his Q clearance from The Atomic Energy Agency. What was going on, in October of 1963, that required his being sworn, and was deemed more important than his access to nuclear secrets over the previous year?

I didn't say he did. But his recollection is incorrect. If you take his word as to WHEN he was hit in the back as correct, then he WAS hit by two bullets. The SBT is ridiculous.