Michael Clark

Here is John Dean’s description of Liddy’s presentation... ”John Dean described his recollections of this meeting to President Nixon on March 21, 1973, during the "Cancer on the Presidency" conversation: "So I came over and Liddy laid out a million dollar plan that was the most incredible thing I have ever laid my eyes on: all in codes, and involved black bag operations, kidnapping, providing prostitutes, uh, to weaken the opposition, bugging, uh, mugging teams. It was just an incredible thing."

Interesting topic. I don’t have Conein on my radar and I see Landsdale as a commanding officer, with expertise and a plan of his own in the Psy Ops side of things. As far as planning, communications, strategic and (high level) tactical decisions and executive authority for ongoing operations I see Phillips, Hunt, William F. Buckley, and Liddy. This description of Liddy’s planing capabilities is humorous but I think there is another, better description of Liddy’s plans for operation “Gemstone” (Watergate). This is Halderman, Talking to Nixon.. “There were these meetings in Mitchell`s office, uh, where Liddy unveiled his plan. And the first plan he unveiled, uh, nobody bought. They all laughed at it. Cause it was so bizarre So he went back to the drawing, board and came back with a second plan and the second plan didn`t get, bought either.” The penchant for writing these spy novels, that Hunt, Liddy, and Phillips had, I surmise, were excercises of the imagination; playbooks, if you will, that was meant to give these guys the ability to form a plan, react to contingencies, execute on both and know how the other guys think. Michael

Deleted. Heeding Mr Gordon's warning.

It's an odd claim, since, by definition, Prayer Man is the person in the shadows on the top of the steps at the west end of the TSBD entrance. If Mr. Butler wants to point out, for us, the Guy On Elm Street Curb With Large Camera With Flash Attachment (GOESCWLCWFA), and make the case that PM and GOESCWLCWFA are one and the same, let's hear it. But, as it is, he appears to be deconstructing the very definition of PM, and that is not helpful.

I don't think that LHO, in particular, was being set up, as the TSBD assassin, using the Italian Manlicher Carcano rifle, as early as Walker's shooting. I do think that that model of rifle was being set up as an implement in any of a number of upcoming assassination operations, in the hands of various persons, in various places.

According to Wikipedia, it was that Assassinations Records Review Board that had sought-out Nagell the day before he died, in 1995.

My beliefs in alien existence are incoherent, inconsistent; split, if you will. They are similar to my religious beliefs. When you consider the emmense size of the solar system, our galaxy, then our universe, then consider the number of stars and solar systems in the universe, the chance that there is no other life out there seems so small as to be impossible. On the other hand, the fascinating miracle of life, consciousness, sentience and love make me think that it is indeed so miraculous, that it may actually be unique. Those lattter feelings have waned since I have grown older and have lost the excitement for life that I had in my youth; but I still do and always will remember these great and fascinating questions, and my conclusions, however in conflict they may be, about them.

Larry, I apologize if my post stepped too far away from Nagell. I thought it added a few important details on Thornberry, in relation to Nagell. I have been very pleased to see you posting recently. I hope you will continue to do-so.

http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKthornberry.htm Thornberry was elected to Congress and served from January 3, 1949 until his resignation fourteen years later. According to Dick Russell (The Man Who Knew Too Much), Lyndon B. Johnson described Thornberry as "my congressman". Thornberry is quoted in the book as saying: "It's just unbelievable how many things he (Johnson) and Mrs. Johnson did to help us when we went to Washington". When John F. Kennedy offered Lyndon B. Johnson the post of Vice President, one of the first people he contacted was Homer Thornberry. He replied: "I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Tell Jack (Kennedy) anything you want, but don't take it." However, soon afterwards he phoned Johnson back to say he changed his mind and that he should accept the post. On 5th June, 1963, Thornberry attended a meeting with John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, John Connally, Fred Korth and Clifton C. Carter at the Cortez Hotel in El Paso, to discuss the president's forthcoming trip to Dallas. Thornberry was in the presidential motorcade with Johnson when Kennedy was assassinated. A few days after the assassination Johnson phoned Homer Thornberry and invited him to "come down and have a drink with me". The two men had two meetings in December, 1963. In a taped White House conversation on 17th December, 1963, Lyndon Johnson admitted that he went to parties held at the house of Bobby Baker with Homer Thornberry and Walter Jenkins. On 20th December, Thornberry resigned his congressional seat. The following day Johnson appointed Thornberry as U.S. District Court Judge for the Western District of Texas. This enabled him to replace R. E. Thompson as the judge in the case of Richard Case Nagell.

Tommy, asking this question, initially, on the forum, is one thing. Carrying on is another. What if everyone did this? What if everyone advocated for the membership of another person on the open forum?

I have him as a CIA asset, charged with infiltrating Pro-Cuban groups. I can't really place him in that role in the TSBD, but that is not surprising to me.

And, Paul, there has been a very positive upside to this situation. Trejo has been so busy playing with Ward that he has not derailed and contaminated other threads with his monstrous and monotonous lists if nothing.

Paul, Trejo and Ward are not involved in a debate. Trejo has publicly placed a number of people on "ignore" including yourself and Steve Thomas. That says a great deal right there. Ward has done the same. They are not here to debate. Ward, especially, has said as much. I am not going to look for his exact statement, but he said (paraquote) "I don't debate, I post evidence" Well, this happens to be a debate forum. In fact, all these threads are not even called threads, they are called "Debates". Their thread, their Patty-Cake game, does not belong here. It belongs in the research threads section. Ward is interesting. He touts his pursuit of facts and evidence, but he shacks-up with the greatest offender of honesty and integrity, Paul Trejo. Trejo has exhausted researchers and members who have given-up wasting their time by documenting his purveying of falsehoods. They just let him run now. My last effort was at the beginning of their recent Patty-cake session, responding to Trejo's Codswallop about George DeM, his wife, and their experience with Marina, LHO and the gun. I'll do it again when I get fired-up, but I don't want to run afoul of the moderators by trailing him. Besides it's just too much work, and requires too many farm implements to keep at the ready.

The bold, above, is mine. AMSPELL The Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, or DRE (Cuban Student Directorate). DRE delegate Carlos Bringuier had the famous altercation with Lee Oswald in New Orleans in the summer of 1963, and DRE members quickly spread information about Oswald after JFK's assassination. Ray Rocca wrote in 1967 that DRE was "initially set up as a "psych war outfit": https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10013-10387.pdf

Mr. Caddy, I have a bit of conjecture that requires a preface. Here is the preface.... I don't believe in The Alien Presence. I do not understand how intelligent people believe in something like this or why they might say they believe in something like this. I consider you to be an intelligent person. (Segway) Did you not announce that you have a book coming out Soon? Now, my conjecture.... Could Douglas be pre-discrediting himself, ahead of the release of his book? Could he be doing this as a means of protection? Could he be planning on releasing, revealing, some very important information regarding certain subjects, subjects like Watergate, the JFKA, and the people involved? Could the claims that Douglas is making now make it easy for for interested parties to call him a crackpot, rather than silence or prosecute him? I just don't get it.

Ron, McCord was running a CIA operation to infiltrate the FPCC. He was working for Phillips. LHO was working for the CIA in NOLA. I don't see McCord doing hands on dirty work in Dallas.

The radio transmissions do record officers reporting their locations. Why Tippit's is the only one recorded in logs, as you claim, is an interesting question.

Emil, I have recently come to the same conclusion which you raise, as speculation, in bold above. There must be some reason why researchers don't cover this point more frequently, I would like to know what that reason is. BTW your article on your blog is very well done. I will be reading more. I noticed that your linked article was posted days before your last post here, and your blog drops-off a month or so later. I am curious as to whether you are actively writing elsewhere. Cheers, Michael (Bold emphasis is mine)

Hi Gary, I was hoping you could give us more of your take on this book?

I am not sure what this was about or what, if any, significance it has. It was shared with me today. I figured I would post it and give it some thought, and see what members think of it. It does relate the same information from the document posted above, indicating that McCord worked for Angleton in 1961. Link provided below. WOOD, COURT FOSTERIn January 1961, James McCord engaged services of "agency employee" who happened to be Court Wood's neighbor to spy on Wood. Court Wood was a student who had recently (in January 1961) returned from a 3-week stay in Cuba under sponsorship of FPCC. See 1 Feb. 1961, document "FOR THE RECORD", From: Kammar; Subject: ______, #188074. Paragraph 2 of 1 Feb. 1961, document reads: "Mr. McCORD expressed the opinion that it is not necessaary to advise the FBI of the operation at this time. However, he wishes to review the case in a month. The file of Subject, along with that of the WH man who is supervising the operation (David Atless PHILLIPS # 40695) will be pended for the attention of Mr. McCORD on 1 March 1961."Identification of "Subject"by gbuell on Mon, Dec 19, 2005, 6:35 PM GMT (#1241)Wim Dankbaar contacted Court Wood, who is now a Christian Minister. He received the following information about the "Subject" of this document: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: RE: From Court Wood - In Jesus' Name Ministries The name of my friend from high school is Michael (Mike) Stratton. He has to be the individual whose name was struck out. Right after the few contacts I had with him after I returned from Cuba, I never saw Mike again. I left the Washington DC area in 1964 and traveled to San Francisco to become a hippie. I lived on sailboats until I met a dear couple who, like your good friend Daniel (he really is your best friend if he tells you about Jesus) began to tell me about Jesus Christ. I listened politely and gave my reasons for unbelief, just as you do, but a year later I was awaked by the Holy Spirit to the reality that there really was a devil, that the Bible was indeed the Word of God, and that Jesus was in deed the Savior of the world.That was in December of 1996. Two years later I was back in the Washington area, tried to locate Mike, to share Jesus Christ with him, and found out that he had died as a result of wounds and injuries he received working with the CIA doing covert activity in and around Cuba. It remains a mystery to me what he did. He was always an adventurous type, but I believe a very loyal American, and I do not think he would have anything to do with anything that would harm a fellow American let alone the President of the US, John Kennedy. He was my closest friend in high school. I do not begrudge him spying on me. He did the right thing as at the time I was moving in a very wrong and dangerous direction.CIA memo for the record, 1 February 1961, by Kammer, Subject [redacted] #188074. NARA, JFK files, CIA January 1994 (five brown boxes) release; Oswald and the CIA,Newman, Chapter 14, pp. 240, 241-243 http://jfkassassinationindex.blogspot.be/2011/08/w.html

A May, 1964, document showing the early interest of Mark Lane in solving the assassination case as well as the FBI's interest in Lane's inquires. This document demonstrates that the Soviets were reporting on the activities of Mark Lane. A Russian informant reports this to the FBI. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32123917.pdf

Polygraph test of Gordon Novell. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10106-10826.pdf