Michael Clark

A substantial PDF with much information on AMCLATTER-1

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10164-10000.pdf

P. 49... substantial background information. USAF captain.

Barker's Crypto appears to be AMCLATTER-1

This interests me because it circles around James McCord Jr., as CIA pointman in the infiltration of the FPCC.

Some off-topic discussion regarding LHO in Montreal in this thread.

RFK: The TFX, Have you been watching that? The newspapermen think that there's something there. They think that something funny went on."

JFK: " Well you know what went ON, nobody wanted to go to Topeka, Kansas! That's all that went on!"

at 3:15

On 3/22/2018 at 11:58 PM, Paul Trejo said:

In my opinion, the Radical Right was a dominant current in the Dallas Police Force in 1963

I am thinking that the oil and MIC money that was flowing, or about to flow, into Dallas was the "dominant current" in 1963. JFK thought that the TFX contract was about to be shipped to Kansas. JFK was about to pull the rug out from under contracts for 10,000 helicopters that would not be needed in Asia. JFK was challenging the KKK. JFK was Catholic. 

And, the Dallas Police were, according to you, Paul, all "radical right", and that is what got The President killed, and the crime covered-up?

Earl Cabell was the mayor of Dallas. A year later he would be a Texas State Representative. Earle Cabell was...........  CIA.

And a few hundred Dallas Cops were running the show, and killed the United States President, and were able to cover it up?

And, according to you, Paul, David Morales, Howard Hunt and David Atlee Phillips (All CIA), along with Bannister (FBI) and Antonio Veciana, all were prime movers in the plot to Asssassinate JFK? But Dallas cops "were the dominant current"?

What about the mob? Where do the "currents"' of the mafia flow and eddy around your men in blue.

I know, I know, the CIA guys were on lunch break. I have heard your story about that. But, what about the rest, Paul?

USGS Topo maps of New York and New England

http://docs.unh.edu/nhtopos/nhtopos.htm

Something that I think would be hugely important to the forum, and to John Simkin's Spartacus site as well, is to fix the Spartacus links that have migrated away from the schoolnet URL and which no longer work. If someone had the desire, time and the trust of John, perhaps John would give that person his EF credentials and could go through his posts and fix his links.

Thanks Joe. It has been posted. Sorry for the delay.long day today

Mike

This story is from member, Joe Bauer 

I give up trying the links you provide for me to send this to you otherwise.

I did so and I received a notice saying my e-mail didn't get through.

I will only leave this posting up long enough for one of you to copy it as it is not in context with the forum's JFK theme. I would not normally even post something so removed from our forum mission.

But I want you two to see and read this story  enough to risk posting it for an hour or two until I hear you have copied it.

I hope other members allow this posting for the brief time I ask.  I will remove it no later than one or two hours from now.

To anyone who reads this account, please forgive my lack of writing skills.

Also, I would like to ask another question. Since David Josephs "vacation" was partly due to a misunderstanding, it is possible that that has happened before. When a member disappears there is usually nothing said about it, I assume that I must not be aware of what transpired, and that it is none of my business. But, there could be members who could very well come back, and there "vacation" was due to a misunderstanding or it was only supposed to be brief.

My question is: Do you mind being asked about such things? Publicly or privately? 

Publicly addressing it makes some sense so that other members don't have to wonder about the same question. Perhaps having some indicator on their profile would make it clear. 

3 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Michael, so sorry I am not getting this.

I have gone to the web site listed and can't figure it out.

Can I list one of my personal e-mail addresses here on this thread and after you link up...share this story with you via this?

I could then delete my address as soon as I send the story so it isn't on this forum except for a brief time period?

 

That's fine Joe. You could PM your email addy if you like as well.

Cheers,

Michael

On 3/18/2018 at 12:07 PM, Kirk Ross said:

In case you haven't already read it, Jim Hougan describes his very interesting background in chapter one of "Secret Agenda." 

Thanks Kirk. I do want to check out the background sources for the claim that McCord was CIA in 63 and head of the FPCC infiltration program. That to me is huge. I don't understand how it gets so little attention, unless the claims are not well substantiated. The Wikipedia footnote cites Newman, I have to find out who Newman cites. Now, thanks to you, I have Hougan.

Cheers,

Michael

Here is the letter that is missing from this post...

James W. McCord, Jr.
7 Winder Court
Rockville , Maryland 20850

TO: JUDGE SIRICA March 19, 1973

Certain questions have been posed to me from your honor through the probation officer, dealing with details of the case, motivations, intent and mitigating circumstances.

In endeavoring to respond to these questions, I am whipsawed in a variety of legalities. First, I may be called before a Senate Committee investigating this matter. Secondly, I may be involved in a civil suit, and thirdly there may be a new trial at some future date. Fourthly, the probation officer may be called before the Senate Committee to present testimony regarding what may otherwise be a privileged communication between defendant and Judge, as I understand it; if I answered certain questions to the probation officer, it is possible such answers could become a matter of record in the Senate and there-fore available for use in the other proceedings just described. My answers would, it would seem to me, to violate my fifth amendment rights, and possibly my 6th amendment right to counsel and possibly other rights.

On the other hand, to fail to answer your questions may appear to be non-cooperation, and I can therefore expect a much more severe sentence.

There are further considerations which are not to be lightly taken. Several members of my family have expressed fear for my life if I disclose knowledge of the facts in this matter, either publicly or to any government representative. Whereas I do not share their concerns to the same degree, nevertheless, I do believe that retaliatory measures will be taken against me, my family, and my friends should I disclose such facts. Such retaliation could destroy careers, income, and reputations of persons who are innocent of any guilt whatever.

Be that as it may, in the interests of justice, and in the interests of restoring faith in the criminal justice system, which faith has been severely damaged in this case, I will state the following to you at this time which I hope may be of help to you in meting out justice in this case:

1. There was political pressure applied to the defendants to plead guilty and remain silent.
2. Perjury occurred during the trial in matters highly material to the very structure, orientation, and impact of the government’s case, and to the motivation and intent of the defendants.
3. Others involved in the Watergate operation were not identified during the trial, when they could have been by those testifying.
4. The Watergate operation was not a CIA operation. The Cubans may have been misled by others into believing that it was a CIA operation. I know for a fact that it was not.
5. Some statements were unfortunately made by a witness which left the Court with the impression that he was stating untruths, or withholding facts of his knowledge, when in fact only honest errors of memory were involved.
6. My motivations were different than those of the others involved, but were not limited to, or simply those offered in my defense during the trial. This is no fault of my attorneys, but of the circumstances under which we had to prepare my defense.

Following sentence, I would appreciate the opportunity to talk with you privately in chambers. Since I cannot feel confident in talking with an FBI agent, in testifying before a Grand Jury whose U.S. Attorneys work for the Department of Justice, or in talking with other government representatives, such a discussion with you would be of assistance to me.

I have not discussed the above with my attorneys as a matter of protection for them.

I give this statement freely and voluntarily, fully realizing that I may be prosecuted for giving a false statement to a Judicial Official, if the statements herein are knowingly untrue. The statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.

[signed]
James W. McCord, Jr.

Maybe James or another admin can tell us if this is helpful, and if so, how helpful. When using this start page ....

http://www.educationforum.co.uk/forum.html

.... Which Andy Walker created and brought to the attention of forum members on this thread....

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/5150-new-start-page/

I see an advertising banner at the top. Sometimes it advertises local businesses. 

Perhaps:

1. Users could use this to enter the forum. (Would it generate revenue?)

2. Things could be set-up so that all outside traffic gets directed to that page. From there they could click a link that would direct them to the page to which they were originally navigating. It would essentially be an advertising portal, which already exists. You might as well use it, right?

Just out of curiosity, and I understand that it is none of my business,  Do you see any revenue from that page?

Cheers,

Michael

7 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Just went to this site. It's a Jeep forum.

No problem at all with this.  Just not sure my story would fit in with this main theme.

Paul, Michael, I could just e-mail you my story.

I re-read your post, Joe. I see what you said about the theme. It's not about Jeeps, it's about scary stories. I just happened to have pulled those stories from a Jeep Forum. I would be glad to post your story Joe, but the thread is for everyone. If I keep posting, other memebers would be less likely to post their stories.

1 hour ago, Paul Trejo said:

Jason,

First of all, great work on finding this story by Marion Meharg.   I've never seen it before.

I will, for the sake of argument, admit the plausibility that SOMEBODY ran from the North Loading dock of the TSBD -- and into a two-tone Chevy station wagon -- and sped away.

That is certainly possible.  There is also a fair chance that it was the same scene that Deputy Roger Craig saw -- and he believed that person looked the same as Lee Harvey Oswald.

In fact -- there is also some chance that it actually was Lee Harvey Oswald AND AN ACCOMPLICE.    Let me stipulate that it was, for the sake of argument.  By the way -- I believe that Oswald actually did exit the rear dock of the TSBD, minutes after the encounter with DPD motorcycle cop, Marrion Baker.   I totally discount the "Lone Nut" legend that Oswald took a bus and a taxi from the TSBD.  I regard that as a fiction created by the FBI and DPD.   I have held that conviction for many years.

HOWEVER -- on the other side -- I have a problem with this testimony by Marion Meharg.  He then ascribes in his "memory," that the license plate number was the same as that of his wife -- and so the Chevy was the same one that his wife owned.   And so, we observe this Oedipal fantasy in his mind -- probably the result of alcoholism.  So -- although I accept that Meharg saw a man jump into a station wagon and speed away -- the details are obscured for us because of the pathetic nature of his "memory."

NOW -- let us turn to Deputy Roger Craig.   I will also stipulate that he saw the same scene -- but just like Marion Meharg -- Roger Craig steps on his own story.  I totally discount Roger Craig's elaboration on this story -- that he personally encountered Lee Harvey Oswald inside the officer of Captain Will Fritz, and provoked Oswald into exclaiming, "That station wagon belongs to Ruth Paine -- you leave her out of this!"  

First, Captain Fritz is befuddled by the story.   Of course he would recall what happened inside his own office!   Would Captain Fritz expose himself to the charge of lying if he had no superlative reason?   Of course not.

Secondly, if the DPD cops and Deputies are coordinating their stories, then why is Roger Craig trying to make himself into a central figure in the JFK saga?

Therefore, I do accept that Lee Harvey Oswald exited the rear of the TSBD building and jumped into a station wagon driven by an accomplice who was dark skinned -- perhaps a Cuban or a Mexican-American (e.g. David Morales or Larry Howard) -- and sped away. 

HOWEVER, I reject accept the "elaborations" told by both witnesses.   They added stuff.  Meharg added a fantasy about his wife.  Roger Craig added a fantasy about Ruth Paine (and he most likely heard about Ruth Paine from another Dallas Deputy, e.g. Buddy Walthers).

So -- in a sad twist of fate -- both witnesses were 50% truthful, but their "elaborations" canceled their true history.  There's my opinion.

Finally, Jason, great work on finding this story by Marion Meharg.   I've never seen it before.

All best,
--Paul

That's quite a salad you have made there, Paul. It's a shame, however, that you are such a picky-eater.

16 minutes ago, Jason Ward said:

From 22 November on, the fine folks in the Mexico City station had a hurricane of activity and cable traffic, did they not?   A routine monthly report getting delayed by a month seems not very suspicious to me. 

I am thinking that after the 22nd, November, such a report could no longer be considered "routine". 

Thanks for sharing. A spy and an agency, spying on Americans and on Congress.

I was thinking that you could post it to the scary stories thread. Just click “reply to this topic” and post your story. I’d be clad to post it for you if you want.

7 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Michael - you're like a voice crying out in the wilderness. I see your point of course, and I have other areas of interest, though none to compare with this one when it comes to wanting to exchange and discuss. I've tried the other sections a few times and posted on a few. But there were so few people engaged that it didn't seem worth it. Would you say the only alive section is this one? 

Simkin surely had wider interests in mind, as evidenced by his tweets, which I followed for a while. I signed out of Twitter recently as I never tweeted and tired of Twitter trying to interest me in someone's tweets. Simkin tweeted on history, and he has a very wide scope. My bet is that he was disappointed that the forum devolved the way it did. 

Paul, thanks for responding. To be sure, I had almost no expectection of getting Andy real results when I posted this originally last year, or by bumping it today. I just felt it needed to be said and I think it could happen if small steps were taken by members and mods. 

I think we tend to see posts as belonging to someone else. I think the fact that the forum refers to threads  as "so and so's" thread propagates that mindset. 

5 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

I have a true and scary ( actually more strange than scary ) personal experience story I would like to share. Where do I go to post this.

Joe,  the scary stories thread I shared above is a place to put it. That's what it was created for. 

On 8/7/2017 at 3:46 AM, Evan Burton said:

I don't see any reason that couldn't be done. Let me get approval to do that and I'll advise here when done.

Hi Evan, do you see a possibility that archaeological forum could be opened?

Cheers,

Michael