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Well, since people are posting Neil Young songs, I'm going to post my own cover of Southern Man, one of my favorites from 50 years ago, when I first started singing Neil Young songs at parties. I can still play a lot of old Neil Young classics-- Tell Me Why, Old Man, Needle and the Damage Done, etc.-- but I stopped singing them around age 17, after my voice dropped an octave. I had to transcribe Southern Man and a few others down by a fifth to record them with my one man basement studio band. Herewith... Southern Man by Guillermo Ambrose | SoundClick

Neil Young may have been following his friend Graham Nash's lead on this one, although Neil has long been a critic of MP3 digital music, going back to the days when he tried to talk Donald Trump into investing in his (Young's) Pono digital music service. Graham Nash Slams RFK Jr. for Using His Song in Anti-Vax Rally Video “I believe in science and facts, and do not support such blatant disregard for either, nor for my rights as a musician,” Nash writes after unauthorized use of 1971 song “Chicago”www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/graham-nash-rfk-jr-song-anti-vax-rally-video-1289244/ January 22, 2022

Ty, C'mon, man... common ground? With Trump supporters who have been chanting, "Let's go, Brandon!" (i.e., "F*** Joe Biden!") all year? When did you guys finally start deploring profanity? Common ground with guys who have been making death threats to U.S. election officials, refusing to acknowledge that Biden won the 2020 election, or that Trump incited a violent attack on the U.S. Congress to block the certification of Biden's election? What sort of "common ground" do you have in mind? I'm all ears. As for Biden privately referring to the Fox News gadfly, Peter Doocy, as a "stupid son-of-a-bitch" (on an accidentally open mic) were you similarly outraged when Trump said, "Get that son-of-a-bitch off the field!" when he saw Civil Rights protester Colin Kaepernick kneeling on an NFL sideline? Remember that comment? Which was the more egregious Presidential comment, in your opinion-- a POTUS privately cursing about a sleazy Fox News propagandist, or a POTUS public cursing about a conscientious Civil Rights protester?

They're probably conspiring even now to make Trump look like a wannabe dictator... 🤥

Ron, Didn't he get the nickname "Meat Loaf" from his high school football coach? He looked kind of like an O-lineman in 1963.

Ron, This was probably a globalist/Deep State/Antifa plot to make Trump and Giuliani look like stupid crooks. But the Republicans' favorite sociopath from the 1990s, Newt Gingrich is on it, with a new contract for America! These January 6th investigators need to be locked up, as soon as the GOP gets back in control of Congress! Unlike the Whitewater and Benghazi investigations, this January 6th investigation is a partisan witch hunt!

It looks like Ben needs to do some remedial reading about the history of Jim Crow era voter suppression, the 1965 Voting Rights Act, Shelby v. Holder, (2013) and the Koch/Heritage GOP voter suppression legislation introduced throughout the U.S. during the past decade. The Koch strategy is about maintaining plutocratic GOP minority rule. As for mail-in ballots, we've used them for years here in Colorado, and we've had no voter fraud, other than the recent shenanigans by a Trump official in Lauren Boebert's Republican district.

A brief comment about the thread process. After repeatedly hijacking discussions here about Trump's historic crimes in order to promote his faux "theory" that January 6th was a Deep State false flag, Benjamin Cole has now hijacked the thread, once again, by attacking an investigator of Trump's crimes. And what an attack it was! 😵 Ben resorted to the nastiest of misogynistic slurs -- metaphorically sodomizing Congresswoman Liz Cheney for participating in the investigation of Trump's January 6th coup attempt. Now I'm wondering about Ben's relationship with his goats. As for the real story right now... It's not about Liz Cheney. It's about Donald Trump-- the subject Ben is trying to dodge. It's about the only POTUS in American history who ever actively and deliberately abused his official Presidential powers to obstruct a peaceful transfer of power after losing an election.

Did researchers at the University of Sydney accurately describe the Meat Loaf Syndrome last July? I don't know much about Meat Loaf, but it sounds like he might fit the bill. What psychology says about COVID non-compliers https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/07/30/what-psychology-says-about-covid-non-compliers.html July 30, 2021 They're less open to new ideas, more extroverted, and driven by self-interests People who purposefully breach COVID-19 regulations tend to share certain characteristics, finds a study of attitudes and behaviors in Australia, the UK, the US and Canada. When people protested the COVID-19 lockdown in Sydney last week, many were speculating about whether a certain type of person was more likely to be involved. Does science back that up? A new University of Sydney study assessed people’s behaviors and attitudes towards pandemic regulations in Australia, the UK, the US, and Canada. It found that roughly 10 percent[1] of people were non-compliant. Those individuals were mostly male, less agreeable (cooperative, considerate), less intellectual as a personality trait (less willing to try new experiences), and more extroverted. Published in high-ranking journal PLOS ONE, the study also found that these people tended to prioritize freedom and their own self-interest. They also perceived their social culture as tolerant to variation in values and behavior, with greater tolerance for deviance. Contrary to the stereotype, most of them were not young. They also tended to engage less with official sources, such as government announcements and news and engaged more in unhealthy coping strategies such as denial and substance use.

Hmmm... Da Nile ain't just a river in Egypt, I see... 🤥 Acute-onset viral deaths (other than those caused by COVID-19) aren't that surprising in 74 year olds, eh? Where did you hear that one, Ken? Have you, perchance, been listening to Neil Gorsuch? I don't recall witnessing deaths from acute-onset viral infections in medical school or during my medical career, with the exception of the tragic AIDS epidemic in the pre-treatment era of the 1980s. To reiterate... 99% of all U.S. COVID deaths in late 2021 occurred in un-vaccinated people. During that same interval, un-vaccinated seniors had 50 times the risk of hospitalization for COVID infections. Ergo, Meat Loaf should have chosen to get vaccinated-- especially given his risk factors of age, obesity, and medical co-morbidities. Instead, he was, apparently, one of those anti-vaxxers who yelled at flight attendants about having to wear a mask. And, contrary to what some people on this forum keep saying, it's important, and appropriate, to talk about the problem of non-compliance with public health recommendations in the U.S. during this deadly pandemic, rather than denying the risks of non-compliance. As an example, COVID death rates in the U.S. have been substantially elevated in counties that voted for Donald Trump-- highlighting the tragic consequences of ignorance and denial of the pandemic.

Indeed. Trump's longstanding experience in breaking laws and evading consequences has exposed the surprising fragility of our U.S. democracy. I doubt that I'm the only one around here who has been appalled by the feeble, drawn out efforts to hold Trump accountable for his January 6th coup attempt and multi-state electoral fraudulence last year. Presidential historian Michael Beschloss pointed out one year ago that Trump had done one of the very worst things any President could do-- refusing to cooperate with a peaceful transfer of power. Yet, one year later, he has still not been charged with any crimes. What's even more appalling is the widespread denial of Trump's crimes, and the related attacks on people investigating them, including Liz Cheney. As an example, the Republican Party cowboys in Wyoming recently convened in greater metropolitan Buffalo and voted 31-29 to expel Liz Cheney from the GOP, for participating in the Congressional investigation of Trump's January 6th coup attempt.

Ty, The analogy between choosing to drive drunk and choosing to eschew public health measures like vaccination, social distancing, and mask wearing during a deadly pandemic could hardly be more precise. In both cases, the subject is choosing to endanger his or her own life and the lives of others. We could call it toxic libertarianism. It is true that the vaccines have had less efficacy in preventing Omicron variant infections, compared to earlier variants, but here are some sobering stats. More than 99% of all U.S. COVID deaths in the last quarter of 2021 occurred in the un-vaccinated. During that same interval, un-vaccinated seniors were about 50 times more likely to require hospitalization than those who had received third boosters. That is striking evidence for the efficacy of vaccines in preventing morbidity and mortality from COVID-19.

This thread is about two subjects; 1) something that happened 58 years ago and, 2) something that happened 58 hours ago.

I disagree, Ty. It isn't "constructive" to say nothing about conduct that is destructive to the self and to others in our society. It's collusion in dysfunctional behavior. Would you have the same opinion about a drunk driver who insisted on his "freedom" to drive drunk, and ended up killing himself and endangering others?

Some misguided people think that it is tasteless to point out the tragic consequences of self-destructive behavior. As a physician, I beg to differ. An honest appraisal of these many tragic cases may be helpful to society, whereas covering up the truth can only promote further denial of the serious contagion, something which has been tragically associated with identity politics in the U.S. The negative examples of those who have rejected expert medical advice during a deadly pandemic should be held up for public scrutiny, to educate the public and promote the public health. People shouldn't misinterpret my motives. I feel bad for Meat Loaf and his family. His death was preventable.

Apparently, Mr. Loaf was another anti-vaxxer who, tragically, died of COVID. Darwin wins again. ‘If I Die, I Die’: Meat Loaf Spurned COVID Rules Before Death https://www.thedailybeast.com/meat-loaf-dies-at-74

Historically, Republicans have supported voting rights-- since 1965-- even as recently as 2006, when 17 Senate Republicans who just voted against this week's John Lewis Freedom to Vote Act voted to re-affirm the Voting Rights Act. So, what happened to the GOP after 2006? What explains the newfound GOP sabotage of the Voting Rights Act, beginning with the 5-4 Republican SCOTUS vote in Shelby v. Holder (2013) to block enforcement of the VRA on the grounds that it was no longer necessary? In a nutshell, it's about Koch control of the GOP after 2009. The Koch's Heritage Foundation has been the driving force behind state GOP voter suppression bills, and the recent Senate sabotage of the John Lewis Freedom to Vote Act. Conservative Lobby Groups Prevail as Senate Keeps the Filibuster While it lobbied to kneecap federal voting rights reform, Heritage Action helped write a host of state-level voter suppression bills. https://theintercept.com/2022/01/21/voting-rights-filibuster-senate-conservative-lobbying/ January 21, 2022

Yo, Ben, have Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald explained this new Deep State false flag op yet? It looks like Trump and Rudy Giuliani were tricked into forging electoral ballots in several states in order to enable the Deep State to purge more patriots... 🤥

Hmmm.... Was this another "Deep State" op to purge patriots? 🤥 Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/trump-campaign-officials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html January 20, 2022

Ah, yes, that must be it, Ben! Way to use your cabeza! 🤥 Nancy Pelosi and Congress must have conspired to be attacked and zip-tied by a mob of violent, defecating Trump Oath Keepers on January 6th! Meanwhile, let us know how anyone other than Trump and his associates could have conceivably benefited from Trump's plot to obstruct the certification of Biden's election. You've never answered my question about that one during the past year.

Forget the official-state-media narratives. Try basic empirical observation, for a change. Also, you seem to have trouble understanding that Trump was in charge of the "official-state" on January 6, 2021. Christopher Wray was Trump's appointed FBI Director, following his firing of James Comey and Andrew McCabe (for their reluctance to abort the investigation of Michael Flynn's 2016 Russian contacts.) Christopher Miller was Trump's Pentagon Chief, following the resignations of Mattis and Esper. The people in charge of national security on 1/6 were Trump appointees.

Repetition doesn't work with Ben. He keeps a very "open" mind--in which facts readily go in one ear and out the other. Apparently, Ben didn't read, or understand, the detailed article I posted last night (on the previous page) about Trump's well known de-emphasis on the threat of right wing domestic terrorism in the U.S., and the cozy relationship between Trump's national security establishment and right wing militias (including Oath Keepers) as a more likely explanation of the lax Capitol security on January 6th. Meanwhile, Ted Cruz recently sent out a fund raising letter based on his Ray Epps narrative. MAGA... 🤥

Interesting stuff, Ron. Your posts about Manson and Dr. Jolyon West finally prompted me to read Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos, a while back, and your post here about Orne and Bryan is prompting me to finally order Lisa Pease's opus on RFK. (I read her Probe magazine essays on RFK in the DiEugenio Assassinations anthology, but never read A Lie Too Big to Fail.) Incidentally, I met Dr. Martin Orne in 1987 (or the spring of '88) when I was working as a ward chief at the Colorado State Hospital. Orne came to Pueblo to consult on the grim case of a young man who had murdered his parents and was feigning a dissociative disorder.

Can't make this stuff up, folks... 🤥 Colorado Republicans vote to thank January 6th crowd, support Tina Peters and question Joe Biden’s election Colorado Republicans vote to thank Jan. 6 crowd, support Tina Peters and question Joe Biden's election (denverpost.com) January 18, 2022 Two-thirds of Colorado House GOP members voted Tuesday in favor of formally thanking state Rep. Ron Hanks and those who joined him at the U.S. Capitol on January 6th. A majority of House Republicans also voted to “call into question” whether Joe Biden was legitimately elected; to urge the decertification of 2020 election results in an effort to reinstall former President Donald Trump; to support embattled Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters, an ally of election deniers who is under investigation for allegedly allowing a security breach in her elections division; and to commit to ensuring dead people are removed from voter rolls — something for which there is already a process in Colorado.

Fact Checker Analysis How Trump supporter Ray Epps became entangled in a Trump-touted conspiracy theory https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/19/how-trump-supporter-ray-epps-became-entangled-trump-touted-conspiracy-theory/ by Glenn Kessler January 19, 2022