Stephanie Goldberg

The review makes the book sound promising.

Thanks, Michael! The navy pilot/lawyer passenger was Maurice R Barnes, Jr of Utah (& Washington, D.C). He was seriously injured in the crash. Thanks, John! So the Dallas Sheriff instead of the DPD then? Thanks so much!! I just wasn't sure if they had records that far back or if one had to request them from some other repository. (And I didn't even think about the sheriff's office having the record.) I am trying out my hand at research. Every time I see William Whaley's death mentioned, it's almost always referenced as being suspicious. While I agree that the date of his death in 1965 certainly places it within the range of suspicious deaths of various witnesses in the JFK case, I didn't see anything immediately in the newspaper articles about the wreck which waved a big warning flag. So I thought I'd dig into it and see what I could find. I'd love to be able to cross off one thing on the 'is it suspicious or not' list, plus I'd like to learn a little more about to actually do this type of research.

If a person wants to obtain a Dallas Police Department report from an incident in the 1960's, does anyone here know if you those files would be requested through the DPD or through a state archives? I'm looking for the police report on William Whaley's fatal cab accident from December 1965, but I am also asking in general for future possible research questions. Thank you all in advance! 🙂

Thank you, Denny! I appreciate your thoughtfulness and encouragement. 🙂

At a trial, I'd believe Adams as a witness if he said that the older man in that photo who resembles Milteer was actually Milteer.

I would love to see either film. And this is spoken as a person who pays money to see/read things.

If we discount Milteer's ability to travel between Dallas and Florida in the specified time, then we discount Donald Adam's ID of the photo.

Okay, so next question then - at this late date, is there any proof or any way to locate this proof of Milteer's whereabouts on the morning of November 22? One of the above links has an unnamed informant saying that on November 23, Milteer was in the Union Train Station in Jacksonville, Florida at about 4:25 p.m. Assuming this is correct, could Milteer have traveled from Dallas to Jacksonville in 1963 in that amount of time? If Milteer was at the train station at 4:25 pm and then left by automobile that same evening, one possibility is that he had just arrived in Jacksonville by train from departure point unknown. I have no idea how to research train routes in 1963, but I do know that passenger train routes were different then from what they are now. I suppose he could have driven the distance, but the train station reference jumps out at me first.

Oooooh, there's a book. Thanks, Ron! Joe - I could almost feel the frustration in Adams' voice at not being able to ask more questions. Again, I found myself thinking that this is just one agent's story. How many other agents could probably tell similar stories about things which they weren't allowed to pursue?

Wow! What a fascinating speaker! There's a lot to unpack there. I think two things jumped out at me. One - as Joe said above - Don Adams, an FBI agent who had personally interviewed Joseph Milteer, gave a positive identification to the picture of the older white man with the glasses in the photo taken moments before the assassination. If we believe Mr. Adams as a witness, then that's a credible identification. The other thing was how many times Mr. Adams pointed to things which he said he hadn't been told about Milteer at the time of his investigation (like the Miami tape) coupled with the end of his speech where he's pointing to the report prepared by his partner who clearly knew more about what was happening than Adams did. He makes a similar point about the investigation of Joseph Milteer in 1962, a fact of which Mr. Adams was not made aware by his coworkers. And that was the experience of a single FBI agent, one who stepped forward to talk about it. How many others might have had similar experiences and just stayed quiet?

Without calling foul play, can we speculate a little by playing 'what if' in this case? If Liebeler publicly supported the WC report, then he either believed it or was smart enough to say that he did while in public. So if he did have a book in the works in 2002, he must have felt that he was then safe to reveal his experiences or he would be safe to do so very soon. What major events in the JFK assassination research timeline happened between 2000 and 2004? Did anything anything major happen in those years that would have prompted him to write a rebuttal or write an explanation? Previously classified file releases? New testimony from an old witness? Did a major, suspected behind the scenes player pass away? Did his widow say anything about a book or his papers?

Thanks, Michael!

Thanks for the replies!

To those who have studied the DPD in the early 60's, how many of them might have also been members of the John Birch Society?

Are we ever truly alone on the internet? I also find myself here frequently, making me wonder if I should just go back to school and get another degree. I could do one in history this time and finally justify some of the research I find myself doing now. So a question for those who have posted here more frequently - if I see an older thread which deals with a subject of interest, should I piggyback a new question onto that thread? Or would it be more useful to start a new thread and add the link to the older thread for reference?

Already looking forward to the next issue. Please let us know when we can order it. Thanks!

David & Michael - thanks for the links!!!

I am not familiar with this person. I look forward to hearing more about this!

I have now read more history of the late 50's/60's in the US than I had previously read. And it still shocks me when I find quotes or read about situations then that seem to be the same as what we see now...just change a few names and dates. I realize this is a naive perspective. History does repeat itself. I guess I just hoped that we - as a people - had learned more between then and now. And we DO have some improvements, but it still feels like two tiny steps forward, one giant step backward...

Greg - Thank you for your very kind and encouraging words! 🙂

Thank you for checking, David! I still had no luck, so I tried another browser which seemed to do the trick. Weirdness. I never had that issue before, but at least I found a way to make it work. Thanks again!!

I'm reading this book by Ian Griggs, and in the section where he discusses Johnny Brewer it mentions a couple of things I didn't remember previously reading. So I came here to the forum to do a quick search. There's a thread about what radio station he might have been listening to that would have broadcast a description. You had posted several links to local Dallas radio station spots - at least, I think that's what was posted since I couldn't get any of them to play. Again, could just be me, but it happened on all of the links of yours in that post so I wondered if there was an outage somewhere. Thanks for checking for me!!

David - I was trying to access some of your material earlier today, and nothing would come up for me. It could all be on my end, but I was wondering if it had anything to do with the outages that Facebook and others also suffered today?

Thanks for the link, Ron! I really admire her for her spirit on television. I respect how she says she wants the American people to know the truth, that this isn't just her journey to find out what really happened. And I wish two things -- -- One - some interviewer would allow Mrs. Porter to simply finish her train of thought. So many times, she's trying to say something, and they just rush in there to get their talking point into the clip. I get that there are time constraints for live broadcasts, but perhaps an interviewer could be found who simply lets her tell her story. -- Two - I wish she'd write a book now, because I daresay it would be far different from the book she wrote with Priscilla Johnson McMillan. While Mrs. Porter's past won't change any, I wonder if her descriptions of those critical periods and the aftermath might change if she's free to say what she believes and thinks.

I think any serious researcher would want to know that his/her work matters to both the present and future generations. While busy researchers might not have the time to post here on a regular basis, I'm sure any of them would be gratified to know that the work they've done and the cause which they've championed - finding the truth - is still alive to another wave of people who believe in the facts.