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  1. 2 hours ago, Dale Thorn said:

    The comic view is appropriate, as per the belief that Oswald shot Kennedy, or the Russians were such a violent and deadly enemy as to justify the Cold War instead of Kennedy's proposed cooperation. Which, BTW, we got around to anyway.

    I'm sorry, what were we talking about again?  Oh, that's right, it was Donald Trump's corruption   ...I think I forgot because, when I left the Catholic church, I became a Rastafarian.  :rolleyes:

  2. 3 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

    The Kavalec Memo Puts the Nail in the FBI's Coffin - (headline mine.)

    John Solomon reported last week that,

    "Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written account of her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele shows the Hillary Clinton campaign-funded British intelligence operative admitted that his research was political and facing an Election Day deadline."

    Additional background and context about the Solomon article:

    • The meeting between Kavalec and Steele occurred 10 days before the FBI used the Steele Dossier to justify the securing of a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page.
    • The meeting was an effort to "rinse" Steele through State Department channels (ie. allow the FBI to point to Kavalec's independent assessment of the veracity of Steele's statements and motivations prior to submitting the Carter Page FISA warrant applications (under oath) to the FISA Court.)
    • The partially redacted memo, attached in the article, is written proof Steele's action were politically motivated.
    • The memo is a second piece of evidence that the FBI knowingly submitted a tainted FISA application since Bruce Ohr had warned the FBI that the DOJ had misgivings about the veracity of Steele's statements.

    Other and Subsequent Findings

    • Kavalec did not apparently believe Steele. (According to Dan Bongino, Kavalec's hand written notes show that she was likely checking Steeles statements during the actual meeting because she made notes that Cohen never visited Prague, and the Russian Consulate in Miami, mentioned by Steele, does not exist.)
    • The memo was not provided to the House last year.
    • The memo was retroactively classified by the-FBI. Director Wray is more than likely, in very deep **it.
    • The memo was not provided to the FBI Inspector General (Horowitz) who is conducting an investigation into FISA application misdeeds by the FBI.
      • Horowitz has already found 4 of the 5 (or 3 of 4) known FISA applications were submitted illegally.
      • This will make the FBI 5 for 5 (or 4 of 4.)

    Reading Between the Lines

    Aside from the evidence that shows that Steele was politically motivated and that the FBI lied to the FISA court, the mistakes and lies that Steele told Kavalec indicate that he was likely not the only author of the "Steele Dossier." That is, Steele can't seem to get his story straight because he is not the only author. This has been assumed for awhile as it is generally believed Nellie Ohr, under contract by Fusion GPS, wrote at least parts of the "Dossier."

    Link to John Solomon Article.


    Just a quick point here:  The Clinton campaign's action were politically motivated, NOT Steele's.  Steele's actions were FINANCIALLY motivated --he was paid to do a job.  He did that job, the FBI got his results and took it seriously-naturally-, and the rest is now history.

  3. Doug Horne himself suggested the "back and to the left" was possibly an artifact of frame removal in Zapruder.

    I'm also reminded of Roy Kellerman's testimony about a "flurry of shells" coming into the limo, and Dino Brugioni's description of a huge white cloud shooting straight up in the air at the time of impact.  Is this an indication of a number of bullets hitting at the same general instance?  I think Doug Horne posits three hits to the head.

  4. Hey John, I don't know if you've already counted him, but there is a cop in front of the entrance to the County Records building.  He is the third person to the left of Clint Hill in Altgen's 5.  He's wearing a black (blue?) hat.

  5. Pictures and floor plan of the basement can be found here.


    I used the website to familiarize myself during the discussion regarding using the pass elevator as a means of escape.  I see no exit to the street from the basement.

  6. 2 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

    Ah... I just flipped through Robert Groden's "Search for Lee Harvey Oswald" and I see it is shown on page. 109.  I had forgotten that.  Robert identifies it as "the west end window."

    Yes Jim, my info came from Groden's "The Killing of a President".

  7. 11 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

    Trying to get back on topic, are there any clues to who was on the sixth floor of the Book Depository building parading around as an assassin of JFK?  Probably so....

    The first image below is a closeup capture from Dallas Morning News photographer Tom Dillard’s film taken seconds after the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza. This extreme closeup zooms in on just a part of the window closest to the so-called “sniper’s nest” on the SE corner of the TSBD.  The face and right shoulder of a human figure appears to have been captured by Dillard there.  

    John A. added dotted lines to the image to show what we believe are the figure’s hairline, chin, and collar.  Note the white shirt under the collar line. 

    Who could this man be?





    Jim, I believe that window is on the west side of the TSBD.  I was curious about this Dillard photo when we were talking about the 6th floor escapees fleeing down the passenger elevator --why would this person have traveled all the way to the west side if his aim was to get down the elevator shaft as quickly as possible?  Supposedly, Tom Dillard took the photo 15 seconds after the last shot.

  8. 23 hours ago, Micah Mileto said:

    So you're saying the skull flap on the Zapruder film was added in later?

    "It would make sense that the force of the bullet moving through from the right front forehead to the occipital area would blow out the scalp somewhat on the right side of the head. "

    This might help explain why Zapruder, on television, indicated the back side of his own head to describe what he saw.

    The skull flap in the Z-film still looks fishy to me.  I can imagine that any wounding on the side of the head could have been embellished after the fact.

    But even if the skull flap was, in fact, actually present and not embellished, it is not dispositive of a shot from the front entering the right forehead.

    I am also one who believes that a back shot to the head and a front shot happened near simultaneously --hence that little forward movement before the back and to the left.  This could also explain the "skull flap."


  9. 13 hours ago, Tony Krome said:

    Are you suggesting the initial throat shot was part of a triangulated series of shots in that instant?

    Or were the triangulated series of shots fired a few seconds later?

    Tony, I'm a little unclear about what you're asking here.  Yes, I do believe the throat shot (remember, the aim was at the head) was part of a triangulated series of shots.  All these shots began when the limousine entered the kill zone --and the shots came from a number of different directions, including from behind.  I believe the conspirators were abundantly confident about showing only shots from behind at any  "autopsy".

  10. 35 minutes ago, Tony Krome said:

    Do you believe the shot that caused Kennedy to clutch his throat area was one of entrance?

    If so, why do you have the primary patsy behind him?

    It was imperative to the conspiracy that Kennedy be killed.  Necessary then, would have been shots coming from different directions --a triangulation.  The evidence for trajectories were slated to be manipulated at the autopsy (Walter Reed?) at Bethesda.  Yes, the throat shot was from the front.

  11. On ‎2‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 7:26 AM, Micah Mileto said:

    A Coup In Camelot argued that the right skull flap was created by the shooting along with the occipital blowout, but was quickly pushed back in by Jackie. In that case, the Dealey Plaza witnesses would recall the right skull flap in that moment, and then it could be temporarily secured back from dried blood or hair.

    I think that is entirely possible.  After all, many think the gunshot was a tangential wound.  It would make sense that the force of the bullet moving through from the right front forehead to the occipital area would blow out the scalp somewhat on the right side of the head.  Then that could have been embellished (possibly to include skull material) at the pre-autopsy work.

  12. On ‎3‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 8:30 AM, Jim Hargrove said:


    I’ve been assuming that in his 11/22 handwritten affidavit Baker just got the floor wrong in describing his encounter with the brown-shirted Oswald (Harvey).  His description isn’t very accurate (“a white man approx 30 years old 5-9-165 lbs – dk hair and wearing a lt brown jacket”) but it isn’t totally bonkers and it must not have been very bright in the stairway.  That big, untucked brown shirt could surely be called a jacket, and since Truly told him “he works here,” that really limits the possibilities. Do you guys completely discount the possibility that Baker was describing brown-shirted Oswald, but got the floor wrong?

    Jim, I think Bart Kamp, at prayerman.com, makes a pretty good argument that the 2nd floor lunch room encounter never happened.  So I am of the mind that the early affidavit given by Baker was probably accurate --including the encounter on the 3rd or 4th floor.  After all, Baker would probably remember having climbed several floors before an encounter, instead of just one floor.  Seems to me it would be a big difference in my mind.

    I'm not sure that Baker ever even saw Harvey Oswald in the depository at all.  Bart has several pictures of Baker facing Harvey in a hallway at DPD, but he never I.D.'d him as a man he saw in the depository.

    My personal view is that Harvey Oswald came down to the first floor for lunch in an elevator, stopping on the way to get a coke, and never again left the first floor.  I think he is, in fact, Prayerman.

    I also think that Truly was an inside man, along with Bill Shelley.  I'm now reading the Ed. forum's thread entitled 'Spider's Web', presenting the idea that the TSBD was a CIA front involved in running drugs and guns for the purpose of generating needed money.  I think it probable that the man encountered on the 3rd or 4th floor was excused by Truly.

    Those are my thoughts, at least for the time being.


  13. 2 hours ago, Andrej Stancak said:

    Late edit: I hope people can spot the staggering similarity between Lee Oswald's posture in BYP and Prayer Man's posture (with right foot on the second step and carrying all the body weight and the right leg slightly bent in the knee joint).  

    I noticed that myself.  Striking similarity!

  14. 16 minutes ago, Jim Hargrove said:

    Some people have a harder time accepting the fact that this subterfuge didn’t end on November 20 with Yates and the hitch-hiking episode.  John A. makes a strong case that it continued right through the assassination of JFK, the Tippit murder,  and the arrest of both Oswalds in the Texas Theater.

    White shirted Oswald was a very busy man the day of the assassination!  I have no problem believing his movements that day were all part of the plan.

    What tipped me off regarding the idea that the men on the 6th floor were not worried about being noticed, was the description of some of the witnesses regarding the movement on the 6th floor --"fiddling with the rifle scope", "sitting astride the window ledge", "seemingly relaxed" (to the extent that the witness assumed he was part of security).  Either these men were security, or they weren't worried about being noticed!  And we know they were not security.

    I had a thought the other day, Jim, regarding the use of the passenger elevator for escape.  The two men wouldn't, necessarily, have had to use the elevator to access the 6th floor.  They could have been pre-planted on the 7th floor or on the rooftop (maybe in that little shack on the roof) very early in the work day (or even the night before).  They then made use of the passenger elevator for escape.

    Still though, I'm wondering if Baker's earliest testimony about accosting a man on the 3rd or 4th floor, indicates that it was "Lee" alone who used the passenger elevator for escape.  It strikes me that it would have been more imperative to get "Lee" out of the building un-noticed, although it would have been important to get both men off the 6th floor immediately.

    In the end, though, it's all speculation.  The testimony of the movements of people in the building after the final head shot are, to use Bart Kamps expression, a cluster fuggazie.

  15. 21 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

    John B....

    I was planning to let this thread go, but couldn’t help but wonder if anyone here thinks the dark complexioned man seen by Ruby Henderson, Johnny Powell and others on the 6th floor of the TSBD just before the assassination could be the same dark complexioned driver of the Nash Rambler seen by others on Elm.... Just asking....



    Just my 2 cents worth of speculation, that is what I am thinking.  Richard Carr saw what he thought was the man on the 6th floor get into a Nash Rambler.  My assumption has been that he was the guy who ended up driving down Elm St. and picking up "Lee" Oswald (after having circled around from Record St.)  I am a big fan of John Armstrong's theory of "two" Oswalds.  And further, I think that maybe "Lee", on the 6th floor, was positioning himself to allow witnesses the chance to notice him as a further effort to incriminate the patsy.

  16. 19 minutes ago, Jim Hargrove said:


    Yes, unfortunately we don't know much about the wiring.  As a builder, though, John A. was pretty certain that when the second, third, and fourth floors were remodeled as offices and new wiring was installed, there would most likely by an entirely new panel built for the new circuits.  There are at least two electrical boxes on the first floor of the TSBD.

    As a builder myself, I think it's highly likely that the elevator systems were on separate circuits.  This would mean that the passenger elevator could be controlled via the breakers without disconnecting power to the freight elevator system.  Additionally, the passenger circuit may have included power to some of Hines' office fixtures.

  17. And, I suppose we have no idea whether the freight elevators and the passenger elevators were on separate circuits?  It strikes me that having both elevator systems on the same circuit would make for an easily overloaded circuit.

    Just a thought...

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