Pete Mellor

9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Pete,

Have you ever read Maurice Phillips's blog, "I have some secrets for you"?

http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/2006/01/links-between-jfk-assassination-and.html

Something a poster wrote in a commentary on the blog makes a lot of sense to me.

Anonymous said...

“I think that Michel Mertz is the one person, who, when we learn more about what he was doing in Dallas on 11/22/63, will blow the whole case wide open and reveal JFK's assassins...likely Mertz himself, was one of the assassins. Mertz had Diplomatic Immunity, and this might be why the Justice Department ushered him out of the country within 48 hours of the Kennedy killing. Not that they would ever reveal that there was more than one gunman (Oswald wasn't one of the assassins)”

 

I would recommend Maurice's book, De Dallas à Montréal: La filière montréalaise dans l'assassinat de JFK, but it's $185.00 in pbk form. (1996).

Steve Thomas

Since previous posts on the French Connection on this tread, I've found & caught up with Myra Bronstein's thread titled 'Jean Souetre' from back in 2017.  All interesting stuff but I think I'm up to speed on this with Kross' book. 

Cheers for the heads up on 'somesecretsforyou'.  I haven't come across the diplomatic immunity for Mertz before.  That would figure.

As for the Maurice Phillips book $185 I think I'll pass......but worth checking up on other French titles on this subject.....if there are English translations.

14 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Pete,

For the Frenchman flitting back and forth between Mexico and Montreal, I would look at Victor Michael Mertz.

Read up on his connections to the Montreal underworld and Paul Mondolini.

Steve Thomas

 

Cheers Steve.

There is a chapter on Mertz in Kross' book.  OAS, Heroin smuggler, SDECE agent, links to Lucien Rivard, Paul Mondolini, Christian David, Trafficante, Marcello & maybe Lucien Sarti.

Mertz seems to be a shoe in for Harvey's ZR/RIFLE too.

18 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

Pete,

I have come across no evidence that Jean-Rene Souetre was an assassin.

Steve Thomas

Alleged plans of Secret Army Organization in Portugal for post deGaulle takeover in France.  Report #DB-3/655,207. 25th June 1963.  This document ends with comment on Souetre.  "Information from both press and official French sources indicate that the Souetre is the name of a former French army captain who escaped from a detention camp in 1961.  Subsequently to his escape he was alleged to have been involved in an assassination attempt against deGaulle.  Souetre was born 15 October 1930 in the Gironde Department of France.

But....it's a tangled web of course.  Souetre aka Michael Mertz aka Michael Roux.  Possible candidate for QJ/WIN or WI/ROGUE/1?   Who knows?  As you say Steve, solid evidence is absent.

Michael Collins Piper claims that SDECE Colonel DeLannurien was with Angleton in Langley on 22nd Nov. '63.  Is that really true?  

An article written by Louis Assemat-Tessandier, published in the paper Cote-Basque Soir of Bayonne.  In the article Louis states that he was in Montreal in January 1964 and met another Frenchman who had recently been to Texas, gone to Mexico, and then came to Montreal.  The Frenchman according to Louis was a young officer from Algeria who wandered back and forth between the three OAS centres in the Western Hemisphere, i.e. Montreal, Mexico City and Rio.  Louis would not reveal the Frenchman's name, but he introduced himself as a former paratroop officer in Algeria and said that he had arrived that morning by plane from Mexico City.  He said that he had been in Dallas at the time of Kennedy's murder but had been expelled by the American Police 18 hours later.

How credible is an assassin arriving in Montreal and spilling beans to a news hound?  Lots of smoke though, just need to touch the flames! 

7 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Pete - I hadn’t heard of that book, written by a fellow Bronx native. Looking at Amazon reviews leaves me wondering if I could get through it. Grammatical errors are off putting. What did you think? 

Paul, I learned of this book from the Bibliography of another book......that's the way it goes often.  Everything I read I review on Goodreads.  Here is my review of this one.  Ok the text is a mess, but nothing made the info unintelligible.

On 8/8/2020 at 5:41 AM, Ron Bulman said:

If your going back to 11/22/63.

Think the U.K. chart #1 was more appropriate!   https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19631114/7501/

On 8/1/2020 at 1:34 AM, Ron Bulman said:

I know I've dissed the Wills & Demaris book for it's Oswald did it and Ruby did him for Jackie and the kids dogma but there are tidbits in there from a historical perspective.  I don't want to give any more away if your about to read it but as an E. G. . . .  I'd gotten the impression from other reading that Assistant D A Bill Alexander was shall we say a redneck Henry Wade acolyte.  The latter part of the book brings this home.  Ruby attorney Joe Tonahill: (he's a) "tarantula eyed one hundred percent pure lier".

Cheers Ron!  Just finished Peterr Kross' 'JFK: The French Connection'.  Willis & Demaris are next up.

10 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Pete, please let Steve know that at least one owner of No Case To Answer looks forward to purchasing a copy of whatever might come of his Father's final work.

No problem Ron, I will pass that message on...and I'm sure you will not be the only person interested in Ian Griggs' manuscript.

Just yesterday I received a pile of Ian's JFK books, among them the Jack Ruby book by Wills & Demaris that you read recently, also a signed copy of Bill Sloan's 'Breaking the Silence' and other little gems to add to my collection.

9 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

Pete, he is welcome to email me directly at larryjoe@westok.net...  I've met him a couple of times in Dallas, along with his Dad.  Even sent a bottle of Shiner Bock beer home with him (empty of course) once.

Yeah, we were all there together at Lancer in 2013.  I'll e-mail Steve today & pass on your details.  Many thanks for your help on this.  I don't like to think of Ian's final research work being lost.

3 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

Thanks Pete, I hope Steve gets in touch with me ( and  you can message his email to me if you like).  Given the shape its in its possible Debra might publish it via JFK Lancer (she had agreed to do that for Ian years ago) or we might also get it published as an incomplete, research work by the Mary Ferrell Foundation. 

Sounds cool to me Larry!  Can Steve contact you through LarryJoe?

On 5/9/2020 at 2:47 PM, Larry Hancock said:

To my understanding Ian's son does have his manuscript; I'm not in direct contact with him but I've offered via DPUK to assist if he wants help in publisher and Lancer very likely would help....Debra had offered to publish his DPD book but it never quite got to the stage where he wanted to release it....like many encyclopedic works I suspect they never seem quite done.

 

 

Larry, as per above I have had e-mail communication with Steve Griggs regarding his father's unfinished work on the D.P.D.:-

On 7/11/2020 at 9:03 PM, David Josephs said:

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-evidence-is-the-conspiracy-index

A number of years ago now I undertook to examine the documentary evidence related to the infamous trip to Mexico City...

Not all the info currently represents my POV...  I do not think it was LEE rather than Harvey on the trip... rather than Lee and group leave more conflicting evidence throughout southern TX radio stations.  I am working on updates and a more visual presentation... but I got a day job too...

With what we now knew of the WCR, this statement from Lopez and a bad forgery job on a hotel registry led me on my way. 

Lopez choosing not to re-investigate gives the WCR story the seal of approval...   Even if they don't know what happened down there, surely the journey - like a trail of breadcrumbs - would lead us to some answers....

Enjoy! and please feel free to address any questions about the journey here.
DJ

The WCR did not correctly establish a single thing as far as I've been able to find...

 

The link above is to 6 chapters examining in details the trip's evidence...Parts 3 and 4 are especially meaty yet there were activities which transpired that most are completely unaware such as the bus manifests only for Sept 26/27 and Oct 2/3 are taken by "presidential staff" within hours of the assassination...  One of them - the Frontera return trip - is specifically altered in front of witnesses by Arturo Bosch to add Oswald and change the dates and bus info...   Part 1 is more a look at the history...  Part 2 brings us to Laredo...  Part 3 to Mexico City via Monterrey and the Aussie girls
Part 4 is the lead-up to leaving...    Part 5  begins the morning of Oct 2nd and the infamous taxi charade...  and gets us to Dallas.  Part 6 is a chronological recap discussion

The manner by which the WCR shrugs off conclusions supported by faked evidence for months, NEVER begs the question... why was it altered in the first place?

 

D.J. Looking forward to the Zoom meet on Saturday.  Part way through your K.& K. article, so any questions will be on Saturday.

18 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

I can’t see anyone intentionally shooting thru the windshield, but there seems to be consensus statements to a thru and thru hole.

South knoll is a legitimate candidate for the throat shot.

Agree. + I think the line up from South knoll is more accurate than any position on the North side.

8 minutes ago, Ray Mitcham said:

Pete, you remind me of my late friend who once said when Color tv was mooted, "I won't believe color tv until I see it in black and white."

🛸🤣 I hear Dylan's 'Black Cross' with the line 'Can't believe in nothin' you don't see'.

15 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

This was the throat shot.  JFK was reflexively grabbing at the place he was hit — his throat.  Pushed to the left consistent with a shot from the right.

Cliff, what is your take on the windshield hole?  Didn't exist?  Internal or external damage?  Do you consider a shot from the South Knoll to JFK's throat wound?

13 hours ago, Mark Stevens said:

I also have a long interest in astronomy and I take my telescope out as often as possible. I've never really had "good skies" though. I can't wait to set up away from civilization and light pollution. 

I do believe in the existence of aliens. Not so much due to "Earthly" events, but more due to my general beliefs as they relate to the cosmos. 

I'm distrusting of alien contact though. Like many others, I believe if aliens are moving though the universe then they are likely doing so for specific reasons. I don't think they are looking for another buddy to cruise around Jupiter, or go mudding on Pluto. 

I believe instead they would have some type of agenda. People could very well be in the way of plans as they relate to those agendas. Colonizers is how I believe they are most frequently described. 

Think not only of human history and colonization and the associated horrors, but colonization in nature as well. 

My big cat is a Celestron CPC800 which I've had for a few years now.  If you've never had good skies in Arkansas, that sounds familiar here in U.K.  Since Comet Neowise has been about we've been blanketed in cloud!

Mark, I think we have similar ideas on aliens, but I think the chances of being visited by some space rock is more likely.

1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Joe said:

However, the subject matter is still too frightening to even contemplate for 95% of the world's population imo.

The pandemic situation alone has the entire world's population gripped with fear and anxiety beyond any single threatening event in their lifetimes.

To take on this possible ET presence revealing news on top of the pandemic threat is all just too much to deal with.

That indicates a lot of fear . But you're just making an assumption for the 95%, but not you?  Ok, Obviously we can only conjecture. We don't know to what degree the information is. Are aliens here? For what reason. What is their plan? Will they talk to us? That all matters. Maybe Doug can pierce the veil, take away some suspence, and  weigh in on that. If they were going to destroy us, why haven't they? But barring the worst. I think you're percentages are pretty high. I never hear it considered that a lot of  people would welcome them.

My long interest in astronomy may well be why I can't seriously take the idea of alien crafts buzzing around planet earth.  I'll only believe it when I see 'em.  However, would I welcome them?  Sure!  Only to see the effect on the world's states and particularly on world religions.

Taken from old Education Forum post (Don Roberdeau Jan 14th 2005-DAL-TEX 'scope of a rifle mounted on a tripod')

Memoir of Mack White's visit to Dealey Plaza on 23rd November '63:-

"We walked to Dealey Plaza, passing the Dallas city jail. My father told me that Lee Harvey Oswald was being held inside. This made a great impression on me, to think that inside that

very building was the man who had done the horrible thing.

We were sure of Oswald's guilt. At that early hour, everyone was. It never occurred to us that his guilt might be less than a sure thing. The doubts would not begin until the next day, when local Mob man Jack Ruby appeared on the stage of history and shot Oswald while in police custody.

In front of the Texas Schoolbook Depository a man was selling copies of the Dallas Times-Herald. There was a huge stack of papers, but only a few people to buy them. Strange as it may seem now, tourists had not yet begun to arrive in Dealey Plaza in significant numbers. That morning it was mostly reporters and cops.

My father bought one of the papers (which I still have) and we walked around, my father taking pictures (which I also still have).

At one point, my father pointed out the so-called "sniper" window to me. As I was looking up, my eye wandered away from the window to the fire escape on the building across the street--the Dal-Tex building-where I saw two men taking turns looking through the scope of a rifle mounted on a tripod.

I was alarmed. "What are they doing?" I asked.

"It's part of the investigation," said my father.

So the police were checking out an alternative sniper perch. Evidently, that morning, there was still something resembling a real investigation. The investigation, of course, would end the next day with Oswald’s death."

Maybe the Dallas Police Dept., believed Howard Brennan!

Wise stated that the men acted scared and he could smell wine on the breath of one of them. Wise took the men over to the Sheriff’s Office, and while waiting to turn them over, asked the men for identification. Wise stated that he believes that two of the men had documented ID’s. He wrote the ID’s down on a piece of paper and put them in his hat. “He turned the men over to the Sheriff’s Office (Deputy name unknown), ( I believe this Deputy to be Harold Elkins) and went back to his radio”. He heard over the police radio that a policeman had been shot, and a little later heard that it was J.D. Tippit”.

I believe Steve Thomas is correct on Elkins as per Decker exhibit 5323 Supplementary Investigation Report dated 26th Nov '63.  Warren Hearings & Exhibits v19.p540.

Harold E. Elkins (Deputy, Dallas County Sheriff's Dept.)".....I immediately ran to the area from which it sounded like the shots had been fired.  This is an area between the railroads and the TSBD which is east of the railroads.  There were several other officers in this area and we secured it from the public.  After searching this area for about ten minutes and not finding any evidence, I went to a tower that overlooks the railroad yards and also has a vantage point over the area around the school book building.  I talked to an employee there and he gave me the descriptions of two automobiles that he had seen in the area just a few minutes earlier.  When I went back outside I learned from the other officers that it had been established that the shots were fired from the school building.......A while later a City of Dallas policeman came to our office with three prisoners who he had arrested on the railroad yards.  I took these three to the city jail and turned them over to Capt. Fritz."

Also from Marrs' 'Crossfire'.....In 1981 Kent Biffle, a reporter for the Dallas Morning News, wrote an article detailing his experience that day that pinpointed the tramp arrests as shortly after the assassination: "Everyone was pointing toward a fence that connected with the Underpass....I ran that way.  Some teenagers followed.  One of them darted ahead and hit the fence before I did......Puffing, I followed him.  The other side of the fence revealed no gunmen.  There was just a maze of railroad tracks and three dazed winos.  "What happened?"  I asked one.  "What happened?" He asked me.  People were still climbing over the fence.  I ran east to the Texas School Book Depository."

Like so many other aspects of the assassination, can we ever pick bones out of the 3 tramps mystery?  Still asking "What happened?" 

The most important aspect of Bowers' testimony is the sighting of these three vehicles driving around the area.  If they were innocent surely you would expect one or more to have come forward to give some innocent explanation of their presence.  As that has never happened this gives further weight to nefarious activity behind the knoll.

Oswald's school photographs.  Over to you guys to conclude 'what' school & 'what' year.

11 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Woody Guthrie used to have a sign that said, "This machine kills fascists" on his guitar back in the day.

It came across the pond too Ron.  Donovan had the same sign on his acoustic guitar mid sixties.

On 7/2/2020 at 1:53 AM, Paul Jolliffe said:

Paul Brancato raised an excellent point: the infamous 11:00 am June 23, 1972 conversation between Richard Nixon and Bob Haldeman was the one in which Nixon invoked the "Bay of Pigs" code to coerce the CIA into telling the FBI to back off the Watergate break-in investigation. (When the tape of this conversation was finally released after the Supreme Court denied President Nixon's claim of executive privilege to keep it secret, Nixon resigned two weeks later.) 

Brancato is also correct that (for many years) Haldeman later claimed in writing that the "Bay of Pigs" reference was a code for the JFK assassination. It is also true that the CIA director, Richard Helms, vehemently and angrily denied to Haldeman during their meeting later that same day that "the Bay of Pigs had anything to do with this" (the Watergate break-in.)

What especially troubled Richard Nixon about the Watergate break-in was the involvement of E. Howard Hunt. Nixon knew that Hunt had done some very secret (illegal) work for the CIA and that a full-blown FBI investigation into the Watergate break-in would "uncover a lot of things . . .  a lot of hanky-panky . . ."

What I don't see in this thread is the critical point of the "Smoking Gun" tape - Nixon's threat worked! Despite Helms's dislike and disdain for Richard Nixon, the involvement of E. Howard Hunt in Watergate FORCED Helms to lie to the FBI that Watergate was a CIA operation (which, while unbeknownst to Nixon, it almost certainly was!) 

Haldeman's guess that Nixon's code phrase the "Bay of Pigs thing" was a reference to the JFK assassination was undoubtedly correct (which is precisely why he was pressured to retract it years later!) 

Refardless of whether or not Hunt was either a tramp or in the hat and raincoat, E. Howard Hunt was involved in the JFK assassination and both Richard Nixon and Richard Helms knew it. Helms had no choice but to lie to the FBI.

 

 

.....and is it true that Nixon once told an aide that the coverup of JFK's assassination was the greatest hoax ever.  (quote from George Schwimmer's 'Doppelganger'.)

Very interesting NYT article.  Bob Dylan sounds like he's on the ball.  My copy of 'Rough & Rowdy Ways' is in the post.

Cheers Doug.  That American University speech sounds better every time I hear it.  Such eloquence from a POTUS has never been equalled since.  It's a long way down from '63 to 2020!

18 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Hey, think about this Charles Dickens/Victor Hugo cruelty story financial arrangement for one second.

Bleak House?